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Hey guys, just checking in... looks like we're kind of thinking along the same lines with diet and fast experiments... I will be doing another fast again, since I've had softer skin and hair effects from the master cleanse, next time I want to do the master, then go straight into water... but more research.
For now, I am preparing to do the olive oil/epsom liver gallbladder miracle flush... I know others were going to do that as well and I don't check in on this website enough so if any of you guys want to share with me your experiences I'd love it if you'd message me or tag me (if that's possible) in your flush results posts.
The final thing, and possibly most important is glandulars. glandulars, glandulars glandulars. I have spoken about them before here and as I see them helping my eye floaters and helping my skin dryness when nothing much else has, and as I do more research and theorizing, I am becoming quite confident that they are the most powerful tool at our disposal.
glandulars are freeze dried raw animal parts from animals that have the same amino acids, enzymes, t-cells, etc that we humans have and our bodies will absorb them and heal itself with them... the like heals like approach has helped many people with nasty problems online. It's just so simple and cost effective that the mainstream has and will try to suppress it; half out of embarrassment that it is so simple and half out of greed.
As some of you know, I have made a website to promote and sell glandulars that I cannot post onto this forum but if you would like to know the address, please shoot me a message... or, you can search for the product that you want on standard process and then buy it from amazon but I strongly believe if you're not using glandulars for your problems, you are missing out.
Cleanse and rebuild--- glandulars rebuild.
BTW, peppermint essential oil cured my ibs.
picamilon cured my anxiety.
Did a cleanse last saturday that made me crap a lot and feel amazing--- woke, drank some baking soda (boosts ph and kills fungus) little while later drank epsom salts... little while later took some niacin and flushed and sweated in the sun, took a nap, after all the trips to the toilet ended around noon, I felt way energized.
peace!
This drug will one day be banned . Once we elucidate the trail of invisibility epigenetic and telomeric destruction it leaves behind it will be banned. Once we see a generation of middle aged people dying young from impaired wound healing and crippled by rheumatic disorders and osteoarthritis , the medical profession ie allopathic Inc. will realize it's mistake . However until then the statistically disproving the safety of a drug with such a variety of adverse effects combined with the total morally corrupt attitude of dermatologists who prescribe this so called WONDER DRUG will continue to maim young and otherwise healthy people all for a cosmetic condition called acne which most Accutane users
had a mild case of and can / should have been treated in a non invasive way ie diet / herbs / trigger foods.
Down with ROCHE and it's evil sinister drugs. Everyone who can attend should go to the protests and let their voices be heard .
You can't change the epigenetic, only temporarly his original function/expression, everything that get in contact to the cells act on the epigenetic expression. Telomere reduction is reversible and is only a symptom of an inflamatory state (among other things), it's not a cause but a consequence.
It's your choice to believe in those misinformation but just keep them for yourself, you are not alone here.
It's not only accutane who should be banned, but the whole official "medicine" completely modified without all those toxic drugs who serves no one except those psychopathic companies.
However until then the statistically disproving the safety of a drug with such a variety of adverse effects combined with the total morally corrupt attitude of dermatologists who prescribe this so called WONDER DRUG will continue to maim young and otherwise healthy people all for a cosmetic condition called acne which most Accutane users
had a mild case of and can / should have been treated in a non invasive way ie diet / herbs / trigger foods.
Down with ROCHE and it's evil sinister drugs. Everyone who can attend should go to the protests and let their voices be heard .
Thank you! I realize you live way too far away to make it, but there are those among us who are less than several hours drive away who have shown no initiative to attend the U.S. protest.
Taking a wait-and-see approach to garnering attention for the Accutane tragedy is bringing a knife to a gunfight.
Thanks again for the few of you who have offered to show up.
You can't change the epigenetic, only temporarly his original function/expression, everything that get in contact to the cells act on the epigenetic expression. Telomere reduction is reversible and is only a symptom of an inflamatory state (among other things), it's not a cause but a consequence.
It's your choice to believe in those misinformation but just keep them for yourself, you are not alone here.
It's not only accutane who should be banned, but the whole official "medicine" completely modified without all those toxic drugs.
Dr. anonyy, your comments on telomere deletion and genius insights into the causes of MS are further evidence that you have no clue what you are talking about.
Learn much?
People who have joined into the discussion on this thread do exchange private messages and emails anonyy, so believe me when I say the vast majority of regulars here have been insulted by you, just plain don't like your confrontational attitude towards EVERYTHING, and have zero interest in hearing your same spiel repeated for the nth time.
Thought you were leaving for good a couple weeks ago? No one appreciates you taking a dump here every day.
You enjoy trolling sick people?
I'm just telling the truth, and it's positive, i'm not pushing people to suicide telling them they are doom like you. I know what that feel, trying to seek help and only finding toxic people on forums with absolutely no knowledge who tell others they are doom, "its genetic" and other bullshit. It had make me feel really sad with a feeling of despair to the point that some suicide when i was ignorant back in the days, you don't realize what your misinfirmation and bullshit can do to some people, you are just unconscious and very dangerous. Hopefully i did my own research and "experience" (other than those useless synthetic supplement people spam here) to find that we can cure ourselves and that's we are far from being doom (i already talk about what i've done, will not repeat it again).
Telomere is a consequence, not a cause and it's known but they want to sell their magic pill at 10000$ so they don't tell it of course. M.S is a lack of nutrient (as pointed by the doctor ted interview) and/or a poisoning by heavy metals, aluminum, fluoride or some other toxins/acids from food mainly, but also air, skin contact, etc.. But again i know that here you prefer to think that "disease" come randomly with no reason, sorry for trying to wake you up.
Number one problem here is a huge ignorance of the human body physiology. What do you want me to do? to say like you when it's obvious scam and bullshit telling people they are doom/done? i can't do that sorry, cause it's simply not true. And i don't care that people are annoyed by that, if they prefer to continue to whimper (i know that there is a lot in that case) instead of learning physiology, taking their responsability and healing themselves, it's a choice, but there are other people who want to get better.
Crank92,
It's not up to you, thankfully.
Don't loose your time replying for telling that i annoy you, like i said i don't care, there is a group of toxic people here i figured that, i don't talk to you but to those interested by real informations, and it's my "duty" to tell how i heal myself and what i've learn/found, doesn't matter if some not very brilliant people get annoyed by it.
Can we just end this and all start reporting anonny to the moderator? Just find any one of his non-sensical posts and click the button the 'report' button or click on his profile and find the report button at the bottom right. Odds are if we get him banned he'll come back under another pseudonym and continue his reign of BS, it's worth a shot though.
Crank92, you don't understand anything about physiology, you have no experience about accutane and how to "cure it", you just post some url full of BS "everything is genetic" and think you understand everything, return smoking pot for your dick and playing battlefield it will be better for everyone. At least if you want to argue, argue with something else than insults. I'm sure that you have more knowledge and experience that arnold ehret, herbert shelton, norman walker, John Tilden (some example), please explain me your point of view.
Why does this seem like a standard linear race, yet we decide to run around in circles on the starting line.
I don't understand everything, but I continue to learn. Yet you think because you read a notebook of someone who died 100 years ago you think you are the wisest of them all. I think this is a bit like medieval times, you are religion, I am science. You shun me at every turn, blind faith obscuring your view.
Maybe not for everyone, but better for me. I had a raging hard on today, no stimulation. These occurrences had not happened prior to vaping. Just because you don't want it to work, doesn't mean it won't. You seem to have some sort of God complex anonny. The fact that a large proportion of people who recovered consumed a large quantity of cannabis also gives it some statistical power. The fact that peer reviewed journals publish articles on cannabis and the purported benefits also lends credence to this perspective. But a more interesting question given all these facts, how did AIP, TA, DoneAt16, SClippers etc recover if not for cannabis?
Once again, I straight A'd my GCSE's, A-Levels and now my degree which is centred strongly on physiology. I also happen to be applying to jobs with 'physiologist' in the title. These men you mention are from a time when science was in its infancy. So yes, I do believe I know more than them because anything they may have mentioned of value would be carried forward in time for others to learn from.
What are your credentials anonny? You seem forever shy on enlightening as to why you have so much free time.
Furthermore, the closest I can find to your diet with some mainstream following is the fruitarian diet - associated with Steve Jobs death and Ashton Kutcher's hospitalisation. Healthy indeed.
You cherry pick what you want to argue don't you. You avoid my questions and spout on about your own beliefs regardless. Human physiology has not changed in thousands of years. But do you really think our understanding of the human body has not increased in the last 100 years. I decided not to use question marks for the answers to all of these are common sense.
For people getting irate at our bickering, I did PM said ignoramus to keep us off the thread. No such luck. I am aware that it is clear I have some personality flaw in that I continue to argue with the human personification of a vegetable.
You don't even realize how dumb your answers are.
What question?
Nothing to do with belief, it's about physiology, sadly there is no 50 different version of it.
I cherry pick what? i really don't understand what you are trying to do here. You should stop cannabis man.
You have to realize that official drug medicine hasnt helped us since 100 years ago like you said, surgery evolved yes, but like we saw with accutane, all of the new "knowledge" of the past decade doesn't helped anyone, they focus on drugs to sell, symptoms and not into real "diseases" causes, physiology & diet who are the base of health, but of course you can't make money on that and even less with educated people who know that their drugs are crap. Our understanding hasn't evolved at all, you just have to see how we treat cancer patient, completely the opposite of what we should do, even a monkey can realize that putting toxic crap directly in their blood to heal something is completely dumb, and after that declaring cause of death cancer when all of the organs has been carbonized by the drugs, so no, sorry, medecine hasn't evolved at all, she regressed unbelievably.
We are at a time where sick people numbers reaches records, where official drugs are in the top5 cause of death, where just born children receives 99 doses of useless toxic chemical crap (vaccines), where children at the age of 4 dies of cancer and others disease, where people are all starting to be sterile and newborn are full of birth defects, but yea, medicine evolved, thanks "medicine".
Following the diet described by anonyy and doing liver/kidney flushes worked very well for me..That isn't to say that we haven't been permanently genetically modified because of accutane, but with a lot of effort we can regain some functionality we had before the medication
Following the diet described by anonyy and doing liver/kidney flushes worked very well for me..That isn't to say that we haven't been permanently genetically modified because of accutane, but with a lot of effort we can regain some functionality we had before the medication
From a somewhat more objective standpoint, can you elaborate?
I've mentioned it before, anonny raises valid points. Generally only to cover them in sh*t later a moment later alongside the 'my way or the highway' attitude.
Anonny and CDnuts are two people who have recovered using that sort of protocol. So there is definitely a possibility that there is something to it. I would just appreciate some non-quack information on how it would work - which is where the arguments generally stem from in my opinion.
Crank92, please stop pretending you are an expert and you have understood everything, you say "quack", "cover them in sh*t", but you doesn't explain anything, you are just trying to insult with 0 argument, you are the only one posting your pseudo-scientific website to say "i'm science here", really grow up or stay on your videogames. I'm not an expert too, i just learn the base of physiology and it's enough to understand a lot of things, that official medicine is a joke who only treat symptoms, what the body need to function properly, what's the cause of "diseases", those information i didn't invented them, they doesn't come from me even if i found them by myself. I never said 'my way or the highway', there is multiple way, for example instead of the liver & kidney flush you have some herbal alternative, you have water fast and others techniques, i just insist on diet who is an absolute necessity in any case, if that's too annoying for you, you have definitively a problem.
Vape Report IV
So it's been about 6 weeks now of vaping. I'm still not even through the 1st 1/4oz that I got back at the end of January. Recommend the 'Da Buddha' vapouriser if anyone else is giving this a go. It's cheap, effective and is a pretty robust design.
I have definitely seen great improvements. For the first time in a long time I've started getting roughly 50%-ers with just some day dreaming that I get carried a way with, generally it stops there as I note what's happening and surprise myself rather than continuing on the day dreaming. I've also been getting some 'full mast' experience simply chatting with the GF on the phone, no manual stimualtion. Never happened prior to vaping. The psychogenic portion of this ordeal is definitely improving, getting a genuine horn on from time to time now and visual/auditory stimulation is sometimes enough to get me close to 100%. Again not possible prior to vaping. The part that is yet to improve is the sensitivity. I'm still pretty much completely numb. I'm thinking that perhaps a higher dose would be the solution but I'll admit I don't know. I've messaged TA, AIP, SClippers, DoneAt16 who all consumed a large quantity of cannabis to see if they noted any improvement in this area, no responses as of yet. It does seem to be reversible though, and not a case of irreparable nerve damage. Some people fluctuate on the numbness in the propecia lot and some (CDnuts) mention a complete reversal as they recover. From what I've discussed with Dubya it seems the numbness is the last to improve in those who recover.
Also worth noting is that TA & AIP were on a far larger dose than I, they probably took my cumulative dose over the last 6 weeks in a couple of days or less.
EDIT: My refractory period after each time I 'finish' has dropped drastically. At its worst it was 24-72 hours, now sometimes I've managed back at my standard 5-ish minutes. Sometimes I get the staying up after finishing and just cruise on. Good f**king times y'all!
My opinion (for other people who are interested by cannabis): You are not using cannabis in a medicinal way, you are playing with your nervous system by inducing an artificial stimulation, it will work some times but you will completely exhaust him in the end, you will feel even worse and you will start to have some nervous & digestive issue (slow bowel movement for example), at least that's why i experienced multiple times but at higher dosage than you i believe.
The only medicinal way is vaped WITHOUT the THC, so after vaped off the THC, or juiced raw unheated, or ingested heated but with very low amount with absolutely 0 fat (RSO), any psychic effect mean you are poisoning yourself. THC poisoning is useful for people with huge nervous system malfunction but it will just be symptomatic treatment sadly, when THC fade off everything will came back. CBD has apparently no side effect.
When you have low libido there is a reason, it's not something to cure symptomaticly. When you have low energy and your whole body impaired there is other priority than sex, the body isn't "dumb", it's not something to be considered has an isoled "malfunction". Anyway parsley is a lot more effective for libido than cannabis/thc and has only multiple positive effect and it doesnt exhaust the nervous system, it does the opposite, choice is kinda easy.
GASTRIC ISSUES
Furthermore I thought I would mention this for people who continue to struggle with gastric issues. I've followed the Specific Carbohydrate Diet now for circa 12 months. I usually test about every month to see if I'm improved. The 1st time I tested (April 2013) I could not handle even a small bite of bread. This week I've just gone all out to see how I was doing. All the foods that generally screw me over I tried. On Tuesday I had a large Dominoes pizza with ham and pineapple. This would have crippled me for at least 6 hours last year. Had ZERO problems. Not even a bit of bloating, which did surprise me. So Friday I loaded up the big guns and got another large pizza, stuffed crust, herb and cheese base, jalapenos and other spicy stuff along with really greasy pepperoni etc. I got a hint of bloating that was it. Let me emphasis 'that was it'. Now I just demolished a massive Chinese take away while watching the UFC (gladiatoro - I wish Lawler had won that! Close fight!) and I have yet to have any symptoms!
I'm not yet going to proclaim I'm cured from gastric issues. Coffee still gives me minor problems. Not like it used to, where it felt like a full on colon cleanse. But I would say I'm 95% of the way gastric issues wise. Such a f**king relief. I remember early last year when I wouldn't eat during the day and only in the evenings to circumvent the constant diarrhoea and pain. In this regard I hold the Specific Carbohydrate Diet in the highest esteem I really do!
During Easter I think I'm going to blitzkrieg this and speed the repair process up. Ketogenic Paleo; which happens to follow the principles of the SCD - to be honest ketogenic paleo is pretty much exactly what the 1st stage of the SCD looks like anyway. It's for anyone suffering with severe pain and diarrhoea.
Well for starters I was just trying to defend Anonyy. I did a diet more like CDnuts on the propecia forum...ie: paleo. The most important dietary restriction for me and perhaps others is: no dairy, no grains. Its hard but I found I could go back to small amounts of dairy and grains after the 3 months I did and be fine....Also abstain from alcohol during this time, very important, alcohol has determental liver effects....I did one liver flush (the Dr. Hulda Clark one, google it), but more could help. I found this liver flush helped a ton but I wouldnt do as many as Anonyy did, there are risks associated with it...I also did a week of kombucha drinking as he did, can't comment on whether that helped or not.
Right now after all of this I can say my sexual side effects improved drastically, back pain gone, less dryness. However my symptoms weren't as severe as others on here. My digestive symptoms come back if i eat gluten and dairy, but otherwise I feel much better after the diet/flush/kombucha. I really feel this is the only way towards a cure, Rick Simpson oil could also work but its very expensive and hard to get a hold of. Check out the Propecia forums, specifically the thread created by user CDnuts for more info
Well for starters I was just trying to defend Anonyy. I did a diet more like CDnuts on the propecia forum...ie: paleo. The most important dietary restriction for me and perhaps others is: no dairy, no grains. Its hard but I found I could go back to small amounts of dairy and grains after the 3 months I did and be fine....Also abstain from alcohol during this time, very important, alcohol has determental liver effects....I did one liver flush (the Dr. Hulda Clark one, google it), but more could help. I found this liver flush helped a ton but I wouldnt do as many as Anonyy did, there are risks associated with it...I also did a week of kombucha drinking as he did, can't comment on whether that helped or not.
Right now after all of this I can say my sexual side effects improved drastically, back pain gone, less dryness. However my symptoms weren't as severe as others on here. My digestive symptoms come back if i eat gluten and dairy, but otherwise I feel much better after the diet/flush/kombucha. I really feel this is the only way towards a cure, Rick Simpson oil could also work but its very expensive and hard to get a hold of. Check out the Propecia forums, specifically the thread created by user CDnuts for more info
Good to see you've improved! It seems to be pretty similar to myself dietary wise, the only difference being the the liver flush. This makes it 3 off the top of my head who have found it helpful - you, anonny and ManitobaMountain. I've known a few others who have found it to be of no use though, no naming names as they wish to steer clear of conflict. Fair play to them!
Indeed, I've read many many times the propecia forums. I'm going to give the fast a go at some point after university now, although to be honest my current rate of improvement could mean I'm out of this mess come Summer. Perhaps a tad over optimistic but time will tell.
Anyway cheers for dropping in and letting us know! Anonny & I have diverted our conflict to PM's for now so this thread may be more than petty arguments for a while hopefully!
Whatever anyone here thinks of my claims, I am in no way insinuating that there is no way out from under side effects. Only that there have been victims of Accutane who have tried hundreds of forms of conventional and alternative treatments only to be left with severe side effects after decades.
I'm one of those people.
The truth often hurts and sometimes I wish I hadn't learned much of what I have in the past several years about Accutane and biology, but along with that information came hope that there must be a way out considering both advancements in science and the occasional recovery stories posted on these sites.
I've strictly followed dozens of different treatments people claimed cured or significantly benefited them, and frankly, they have been a waste of time, money and effort for me. It would be foolish for me to blindly believe treatment attempt #1001 would be any different, but I still try sometimes.
I would have committed suicide by now if there hadn't been research into side effects like mine stemming from different drugs in the last few years. I have no trust in any diet, drug, or natural supplement making me feel better until whatever the Hell the root cause of my side effects is is figured out.
Obviously, there have also been those have recovered through various means. I'm not one of them.
Does it not make good sense to figure out what exactly has gone wrong and how and why some people do recover, so that some day absolutely none of us have to worry about living a shell of a life despite endless treatment attempts?
Isn't it better to know how and why cannabis or drastic diets might be of benefit rather than continually being unsure if something another sufferer recommends will work for you?
@anonyy, All other arguments aside, if some Accutane problems are indeed of an epigenetic root cause, this does NOT mean that they are necessarily permanent as an actual genetic condition would be. There have been epigenetic conditions which have been found to be triggered and also reversed by different synthetic and natural substances, and even diet and other lifestyle changes.
I've personally tried hundreds of manufactured and natural treatments, diet changes, different exercise regimens, and nothing has offered me significant enough benefit to say that my symptoms are bearable. Why should I believe following what you did would be any different for me? Because you say it worked for you?
I have heard that line a couple dozen times before.
I get your point of view but you are still thinking symptomaticly. Modern (drug) medicine ALWAYS focus on symptoms, that's what people need to realize to truely understand the "scam".
Everything affect gene expression, anything you eat, anything that reach cells environment. From my point of view and what i've "see" genetic & epigenetic are impossible to be re-coded after birth, you just can change/disrupt some gene expression mechanism during it's methylation etc.. process but that doesn't affect genetic or epigenetic code and it's only temporary until what cause the change go away. Focusing on epigenetic is a waste of time, the body auto-regulate himself on this side and you can't do anything about it except permitting the body fixing it by himself.
It will work because it's the only way, i've tried eveything possible too, certainly lost more than 5k euros trying some useless thing. Only the body can fix itself, no drug synthetic or natural will replace the body for doing all of the different process he need to recover, specially when ALL of those synthetic drugs are detected by our body has toxic crap to be eliminated as fast as possible, those drugs aren't required by our cells or any body function, they just do what they do when they enter the body, almost everytimes they does 0 positive effect except reducing symptoms (wich is not positive at all) then are flushed away. When you realize that what's left? helping the body doing what he need to do and not looking at it as something weak and malfunctioning by itself but for something who doesn't have the proper condition doing his normal job.
The only way is to give to the body fuel/food he's physiologicaly made for, our bodies are made to eat raw fruits & vegetables (globaly), specially green vegetables for us (juiced preferably, fibers are bit too harsh after accutane), that's all. For some people doing that is enough with time, for others their body is so congestioned and toxic that an huge help on the elimination pathway are required. There is nothing else to do, the body isn't sick for no reason, there is no genetic or epigenetic cause, this is just symptom, cause are a lack of true nutrients & an excess of toxicity, every cells of the body need two things, be fed & eliminate their waste, if you bring no nutrient and even worse, more toxins than nutrient (cooked refined food for example) you end up sick. Accutane destroy the intestine and render it hyperpermeable so this problem is magnified. It take times to see result, it's not something like taking a supplement and wait for the effect the day after, it takes 2, 3 month at least to see the first positive changes. During the beginning of the diet change there is something called "detox syndrome" where the body start an elimination process since he has a lot more energy from an easy digestion & no more toxins intake, some people start to pannic and go back to their old habits. What required when that happen is to help elimination or eat something who require a lot of energy to digest, it will slow down the process. Fruit are strong for detox & vegs for the remineralization.
Crank 92 , yeah it was a close and good fight indeed I wish Lawler had won too but it is what it is , you know years ago I had severe stomach problems from Accutane I was doing dead sea salt baths for a while I read they were good for you also my dad went to the dead sea when he was young and it healed his arthritis and mild acne so I though what the hell . Anyways after a few weeks of this my stomach literally went to hell I had severe stomach pains and a very soft stool for a month or two what healed me was german beer yeah when I do drink which is not often it is german beer it is all I ever drink as it has the purity law of 1516. No doubt our skin cell receptors are ^&*( up and exposure to salt or most
anything even prolonged rubbing of the skin causes side effects , not to be recommended from personal experience.
Now people who have taken Accutane shouldn't consume much alcohol it's true somehow it causes more problems but anyways I was desperate to cure my stomach problems so I started to drink some Warsteiner beer and sure enough it completely healed my stomach within a two week period , I drank 4 per day no doubt the hops cured me as they are a healing herb perhaps even the barley , beer is very low in alcohol typically 5% so it can be consumed even by accuainted people but I stress moderation as drinking too much can cause things like back pain dizziness etc...
I had this stomach problem too, i was eating too much meat & wheat, meat require very long digestion time at very low ph and wheat is a strong irritant. Dairy (specially from cow), refined/transformed food & salt to be avoided too. I don't believe those salts helpful, celery juice should be a lot better. Accutane "destroyed" our digestive system too much to permit ourselves to eat trashy foods.
Strange your story with beer, maybe an anesthetic effect from alcohol?