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I just want to thank everyone again for the tremendous amount of work that's already gone into fixing this. I'm going through all my notes right now and pulling them together. There's a ton of stuff to try. I'm putting together my treatment plan. All I can say is, there is hope!
Of course I would argue that progress is very difficult to make while eating foods that will inflame a weakened system. But given a stable system, I'm very confident that large progress can be made quickly in actually reversing damage.
I appears to me that the main priority is restoring bile flow. That will allow removal of fat soluble toxins, and absorption of fat-soluble nutrients, immediately increasing system robustness.
I'm hoping this will take me to an even higher level of energy and vitality, in addition to expanding my diet. I still go through periods of minor energy drops during a typical day, and am a little slow in the morning. Part of that is probably my sleep schedule getting interrupted lately. But I feel confident there are still major gains to be made.
There's so much here that's just fascinating. I will be posting more soon.
I ordered some licorice root capsules for adrenal health today.
Also, something called Stabilium 200, which my nutritionist recommended. They were pricey, but you only have to take them for about a month and it's worth trying. It's for anxiety and stress. I've come to realise than I need some help to get started.
By the way, iHerb are offering free shipping until the end of this month. 0.00 for postage from the US to the UK is amazing! Plus the supplements are cheaper there.
I think my adrenals going to be my focus right now.
I need to feel more able to cope.
I ate a lovely roast dinner tonight.
Avoiding foods from the hair analysis for a few weeks hasn't made me feel any better, as well as having lots of fruit and veg.
So, I'm going to say "fuck it" (every now and then) and have whatever I want. Chocolate? Fuck yes.
Stay strong mother fuckers 
It's for anxiety and stress. I've come to realise than I need some help to get started.
I think my adrenals going to be my focus right now.
I need to feel more able to cope.
Avoiding foods from the hair analysis for a few weeks hasn't made me feel any better, as well as having lots of fruit and veg.
The earlier generations of my self experimentation focused on reducing stress, increasing energy, and improving sleep directly, by using supplements designed to target those systems.
Success was very limited. I always seemed to hit a wall.
It was only when I removed inflammatory dietary agents that I began seeing real progress.
Allergen tests are only a very small part of the big picture with regards to dietary inflammation. Elimination diets are the gold standard.
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Whoah... total mindjob here.
This is the list of stuff your body requires Vitamin A to do.
Therefore, it also tells where the Vitamin A receptors are. Which is a pretty good guide for what might go wrong, when those receptors are overloaded:
Vitamin A in its various forms is required for:
Night vision, due to its involvement in photochemical reactions in the retina.
Growth and maintenance of epithelial tissue including the cornea, all mucous membranes of gastrointestinal tract, lungs, vagina, urinary tract, bladder and skin.
Reproductive function in humans.
Nerve formation and function.
Epithelial cell proliferation and epidermal differentiation. Natural and synthetic retinoids have been used increasingly as systemic or topical agents in the treatment of hyperkeratotic disorders, acne, and certain skin cancers.
Antioxidants may play a preventive role in heart disease and epithelial cancers.
Both cell-mediated and antibody-mediated immune response.
Signal transduction, via retinoic acid's hormonal action.
By the way, iHerb are offering free shipping until the end of this month. 0.00 for postage from the US to the UK is amazing! Plus the supplements are cheaper there.
I'm really tempted to order from iHerb, even more so with the free shipping. I'm not sure about being hit with customs charges though. I've heard anything over 15 you start paying various taxes on.
Right, I made a few comments in my previous post that I quickly realised were pretty pointless to say, and at the time I had what turned out to be the start of a bag heache/migrane, so I just edited the complete post because I didn't feel up to editing parts out. Bit of a shame really because there was some stuff there I wanted to keep, so Imay be repeating myself hear to anyone who read the post for the hour it was up.
Firstly, new article about ROCHE's Tamiflu was in the Daily Star newspaper on Sunday, following up an investigation by the paper from the previous month, which I mentioned also on here previously. Unfortunately the full, detailed report I can't seem to find on there website, but I have found a tiny bit of it, and they are strong words:
http://www.dailystar...Tami-truth-now/
I know that we haven't suffered from Tamiflu, but Roche is the common link here. Both drugs have awful side effects and Roche claim innocence. So any reason to further darken Roche's name to as many people as possible is a good thing.
Joseph - I don't know if you read my last message which I edited out, but I won't be the first to try out the new diet you propose, but I do think there is some foundation to what you have said. You look in very good condition from what you are eating, and from the energy that you have stated you have. I just hope someone does try out. With this diet, I guess you re going to feel either a lot better in just a few days, or a lot worse. The reason I won't be trying it straight away is this. I wasn't going to say ths, but after the Eniva Vibe my scalps gone very dry and flakey, itchy, and it is horrible. At the moment it isn't as bad, it's not itchy at the moment and the dead skin laying on top of my hair has gone done, but I've just got to hope it stays that way and gets beter. I'm not really prepared to try anything new which could trigger anything like this again. I think the problem with the Eniva Vibe is that it was synthetic Vitamin A (palmitate) rather then natural Vitamin A from a meat source.
With that product link regarding to help the telomere's, I just think we need to be careful on these things. Anything anti-aging sells so we'll have to see if thats a gimmic or if it can genuinely work. Although Joseph's diet is not quite you'd expect someone to eat daily, at least it's a positive experience from someone post Accutane. I just think people with Accutane experience and any sort of success should be listened to, because there are very limited positive messages in this regard, rather then maybe take a supplement that has no experience to if it works for post Acutane sufferes?
js - I've tried hemp oil and I'm sure many other here have. As usualy, hemp oil sounds a miracle food on paper, but for post Accutane it's an exception.
The more I think about it, it's the brain that's been hit most by this drug. It seems very little study has gone into the efects of someone on Accutane, but brain study is one that has, and keeps being mentioned. It's like if there is no commander, then the troops don't know what to do, if that makes sense. The brain tells the rest of the body how to function properly. The other day I went on the Accutane website for some reason, and was presented the list of side effects f the drug. As tempting as it is to go righ through them to find my side effects within that list and count how many I have, the thought of finding out other bad things that can happen, I decided not to. But, it was at the top of the page where it mentioned the mental issues with the drug. Decrease in mood. Yes. Isolating from family and friends. Yes. I can't rmember all of them, but I can relate to a lot.
I have one reservation on Accutane being stored in the body. If this way the case, then surely any women who has been off the drug but still has side effects and gets pregnant, then surely they would get the birth defects too? I know Roche have got away with a lot, but surely they couldn't get away with this?
This thread is doing good things, and Indigo it seems you did the magic keywords in this thread title, because it seems those words are how people are finding this site (including me) through Google. When I logged in Monday moring there were 16 users on this thread, 14 being guests. I think there are a lot of others out there coming here regularly wanting help that aren't posting. Hopefully this thread can continue to bring in more people.
Indigo - Or Stefan 
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I know you mentioned about your dog before, and you are so right. I think it's just the innocence of them (and animals) that is just soo powerful. Your problems can be lost while being occupied by them. I had a dog but it died last summer. He was probably the best thing out of anything to forget about what's happened to me. I've really taken an interest in birds... it's not he same as a dog, but there are a few birds that I can recognise that keep coming back daily for the food I give out to them, and to know I'm helping them survive (especailly in this cold weather) makes me feel good that I'm having a good impact on there lives!
Also, another great video as usual. Your comments on doctors are good. I've also asked a doctor before if I've got such and such condition, and they brush it off, as "how dare you diagnose yourself - that's my job"! I don't think doctors like the powershift that's happening where people can go on the internet to find information which only they used to know about. I think most doctors are probably genuinely nice people away from there profession, but all they are , are sales reps in disguise for the pharmaceutical companies. Money is the root of all evil, and don't you forget it!
I agree with what you have said.
I spot guests on here when I'm posting a comment.
I've been on other sites before, but sometimes I can't be bothered signing up, so I just favourite them.
I expect many people are doing that.
It's nice you look out for the birds.
Though i've always viewed bird-watching as something for weird old guys, they are pretty cool.
Just watching their wings flutter as they go from tree to tree.
I don't know why you were worried about telling anyone here about having a dry itchy head.
I thought, from how you led on, that your weiner had fallen off or something.
Don't worry about it man. It's nothing to feel embarrased about.
A pain, I'm sure though.
I was thinking about getting some Ro-accutane people to send me a short video (like a minute long) so I could create a collaboration video.
It's surely a matter of time before something kicks off with the health industry...
Roche can't stay away from trouble for much longer.
Didn't, like 12 year-olds take that drug?
I wonder how many people have taken it.
But, so many people are against medicine because of stuff like this. The alternatives (herbs/vitamins) are being limited greatly at the moment, though we won't really see the full affect until a couple of years or so.
It's difficult to get 'real' food without paying out lots of money for organic substances.
Even the grapes that say organic aren't really though. They don't have seeds anymore when I find them.
I'm not really sure who decided all this.. I know it's some organisation, but it's clear they don't want us to be healthy.
It's all part of a bigger scheme.
We're fortunate in a way, because we're not ignorant to it like millions of other people.
My friends aren't the type to worry about their health.
They're out drinking a lot. They couldn't care less, so I don't talk to them about this stuff, but if I did, I'd bet they'd think I was deluded.
People believe what they want to, at the end of the day.
Doctors definitely do not like it when people use the internet.
But, frankly, why the fuck is it their business?
I'm not saying it's a good thing to look on the internet, to self-diagnose, but it definitely can save time and give you better resources.
People should take responsibility of their own health.
Doctors just learn off other people.
Really, they're not to blame.
The way it works it all wrong. There should be various doctors in each practice, for seperate conditions.
Obviously, it works differently in the US, but people here will believe a general doctor will know everything in detail.
I've had several appointments where my GP just got his black book out for references.
I just had fish, rice and salad again.
Pretty bland.
I enjoyed my Roast dinner last night, so I'm gonna let myself go more.
I was watching (I think its called) Food Doctor on Channel 4 last night.
They had a depressed woman on there (who was a lesbian... but that has nothing to do with it).
She changed her diet, eating basically what I've been eating and she was cured in a few weeks.
Definitely an issue for many, lack of the right nutrients/whatever, but obviously ours is more psychological (not meaning in our heads).
We know what's causing us to feel 'this way', but because we don't see a fix for it we continue to feel helpless.
It's always good to feel in control.
However, it's not always possible.
I realised a couple of weeks ago (or whenever it was), I had to change.
I think I'm the best person in the world to be around when I'm in a good mood, but that's not been the case a lot recently.
My girlfriend, understandably, gets very frustrated with me.
She'll call me in the morning and I mumble on the phone, sounding miserable.
I don't want people to think 'what a boring, miserable fucker', and I don't want to die with this as my 'reason' for not living.
It's certainly an obstacle, but everyone has them to some extent.
I've said before, and in my videos, what needs to be done so I won't repeat myself again.
But a lot of it is up to us.
When we're feeling better, we're much more likely to get better, or at least not feel so involved in all of this.
I absolutely love you guys, and it'd be great to hang out one day (it could happen), so I'll continue to be involved with this forum.
I had a thought the other day... It was probably stupid.
But, I thought 'What if Roche got worried that this forum was causing too much of a stir?'
Imagine if this got deleted. Fuck.
A couple of you are friends with me on Facebook I think, but if anyone who isn't wishes to add me on there, just type the name (Stefan Lay).
I don't know what to make of the Accutane being stored thing.
Maybe it just has to be actively circulating in the bloodstream to cause defects, but I'd like to hear Chico's thoughts on this.
Rest assured, we'll get the answers one day.
Have a good night you guys,
Stef.
Ok, first thing guys.
If you have not read Nathan Carr's report, "Hoffmann-La Roches Cover-up of Accutane", [Removed]
You can get it on my blog: [Removed]
It has everything. It is like the founding document for us.
And guess what?
We know exactly what Accutane is and what is does. It's vitamin A. And Roche knew exactly what they were doing when they poisoned us. It was deliberate.
I'll say it again: They did it to us on purpose, to make a buck.
This is a pattern with them.
This is true evil.
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OK, I want to detail a symptom report, just to give an idea of where my limits are, with the diet.
I'm not invulnerable to stress and making errors.
Over the last 4 day period, I've been somewhat down. I'm back at 100% this morning. Here's how it happened.
The cycle started with interrupted sleep. Noisyness, light, and people physically waking me up.
From there, I made some errors in food prep and storage. Burning the food, letting it age too long, maybe not refrigerating properly, due to fatigue.
As mentioned I can't digest anything burnt.
Anyway, I wound up getting fatigued, working less, and having a weird sleep cycle where I had insomnia and stayed up about half a day longer than usual. Then a loose stool and bed, and this morning I woke up back at 100% again.
All of which is yet another reminder that I have to be 100% focused on making ZERO errors with food prep, especially when I'm tired.
I really want to restore bile flow so that my system is more fault-tolerant.
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Yes Jmsil, if you read the report I mentioned, there is a major (20%) reduction in activity in the emotional centers of the brain from Accutane. I've experienced this too, unfortunately. With a special type of meditation I can get a lot of that back.
I think there's a lot of hope for supplements, but the key thing to understand is that you can't tell if a supplement is working when you're enduring a major food irritation cycle.
It doesn't sound fun to eat a bland diet, but the fact is that the fast-dividing mucosal lining cells of your intestine, your bile flow, and also your overall immune system all may have been compromised. If one or more of these is broken, it will be very hard to make progress until you stop bombarding your body with more than it can handle.
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Here's the accutane brain damage study Bremner JD et al. Functional brain imaging alterations in acne patients treated with isotretinoin. (2005) Am J Psychiatry. May;162(5):983-91
The body is amazing at healing itself...right? Is accutane the exception to this?
- Did you try the hemp oil that is only available in states where marijuana is legal? Cuz whole foods sells hemp oil, but it doesn't have the "real" stuff that contains healing powers. I am working on getting a hold of some. Probably won't be for a while though. Isn't it ridiculous the extent that the government prevents us from trying to heal ourselves?
Indigo, I cannot remember if you mentioned these already, but have you tried 5-htp or passion flower?...or marijuana for that matter?
After pushing on my stomach, I'm starting to notice a dull pain in my right side near the ribcage...uh oh, seems like the liver to me.
I am currently on a liver cleanse and parasite cleanse. I did a short oxygen cleanse the week before, but I poop so much now that I know I'm not stopped up at all.
Joseph, I feel your pain about your poop. I still get days where I have terrible nausea and then have a bowel movement that is all floaty and sickly looking. During that time I also have mucus in my stool. I had it so bad a couple times that it looked like a bunch of cobwebs around my poo! I mentioned this to my gastro and of course he says, that's probably normal. Idiot.
Ginger definitely helps me with nausea, but I know some of you said you are sensitive to ginger. Marijuana is the king at suppressing nausea but it makes me sad that I'm using it for medicinal purposes and not for fun anymore...Oh and I HAVE to vaporize it because smoking makes me sick. Thanks accutane.
And Joseph, at the beginning of all this, my stools were so terribly sick that I thought I had crohns. I started taking garden of life's primal defense probiotics which slowly restored my poops. Unfortunately it did nothing for my digestion. The maker, Jordan Rubin, claims that we need "soil organisms" which are in the probiotics. There have been some controversy with this, but from what I've gathered online, and my own experience, this probiotic is king.
Oh yeah, and at one point I had so much brain fog and cloudyness/dizzyness, I could barely function. I felt like a walking dead person (though I still do to some extent).
I found out via self-diagnosis that I have leaky gut. Thanks accutane.
L-glutamine was a life saver
http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1766179
interesting read.
I had a thought the other day... It was probably stupid.
But, I thought 'What if Roche got worried that this forum was causing too much of a stir?'
Imagine if this got deleted. Fuck.
Haha... the Download icon at the bottom of the page is your friend... I've got every single message saved on my computer up till a week or so ago, just incase of any "surprises" these inhumane, money grabbing low-lifes might try and do!
Say nothing. Force feed him Accutane for 6 months and then ask how he feels.
I have a tremendously simple and powerful tip that will give you more energy. (!)
Take 2 Vit-D with calcium pills (approx 3.2 ug or whatever's in the health store) IN THE MORNING ONLY.
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This will give you a stronger Circadian rhythm. It really promotes alertness and deep sleep.
coolguy - Did you see that link Oli Girl posted here 2 weeks ago? It opened a PDF of about 20 pages, but there are 2 specific pages about Accutane (between pg 8-12 somewhere). Maybe you could print those pages out and show them to your doctor? That article sums up Accutane's origins, side effects and how bad it is pretty well, without being too long (like Nathan's report). Also, it was mentioned on here or somewhere else that Accutane is either the first or second listed drug for most reported side effects. If you can find where this "fact" originated from, he can't argue there are many other dangerous pharmaceutical drugs.
The problem is, and I don't know your doctor, but I know you will be fobbed off for blaming anything on Accutane. Especially if it is the same doctor who gave you Accutane or fowarded you to a dermatologist to go onto it. They don't want to take any responsability for anything that can go wrong with their medication, but are more than happy to hand it out.
I suggest if you go, is to ask him questions, like is it a chemotherapy drug, and other questions like this. By doing this you will no doubt get him out of his comfort zone, and this is what you need to do. He will no doubt try and brush the discussion aside but you must keep asking the "tough" questions. Anything he denies, is only then when you show him the printouts to prove you are correct and he isn't.
If you do go and see the doctor, what you should do is audio record the appointment. The excuses and defending of Accutane by doctors need to be exposed to everyone!
hi i am one of the guests who frequently reads this site looking for answers. i took accutane in 2000 and am still suffering . i had the usual side
effects sore lips and dry skin, also suicidal tendencies (not depression) but a feeling of elation at the thought of killing myself. The suicidal feelings were then replaced with feelings of paranoid, anxiety and wanting to lock myself away from the world. My hair started to curl and go very brittle still is ,then started to have bad stomach pains and diarrhea, diagnosed with divericulosis and told to eat more fibre , well i already ate a very healthy diet with plenty of fibre , i am on tablets for ibs which have not helped and still have pains and diarrhea, also suffer from fatigue some days ok other days complete exhaustion. Currently on taurine , wheat free diet .I dont know if accutane is still in my system but if you take a drug when you stop you should return to normal , does accutane do its damage then leave your body leaving your skin and organs completely dehydrated and damaged, i try and drink 10 glasses of water a day but has made no difference. I am grateful to you all for sharing your info but also angry because the people who supplied this drug should be coming up with the answers maybe one of you will come up with the ultimate cure . I asked my doctor whether they had heard of post accutane side effects and that roche have paid out millions in compensation with ibd, he just said "well you know what the americans are like " I did look into making a claim but in the uk no one seems interested. Maybe i will eventually get better regarding my physical symptoms ,but the effect it has had on my mental state that is a different matter (anti depressants had no effect on me at all). I live in hope and will continue to read this site . thankyou
Really though coolguy, you're wasting your time even if you show your doctor the evidence.
They don't give a fuck unfortunately.
I wouldn't waste your time, unless you want to create an awkward moment for him (I wouldn't blame you).
In this country, America does have a 'let's sue everyone' reputation, so I've heard that before too 'snic'.
Welcome to the forum by the way.
We should be compensated, but you'll be wasting your time trying.
The amount of people in this forum now .... there is power in numbers you guys.
If anyone has an idea on how to take this further, I'm all ears.
You're right. Like compensation is going to makes things better - it wouldnt for me. I could win the lottery tonight and I wouldn't give a crap.
Health is real. Money is artificial. Health rules over money any day of the week. But.. some people don;t see it like this. And I'm pissed off with it.
Roche has fucked my life up in return for a bit of money. Boy didn't they get a good deal. I hope there happy with themselves that they have ruined my life.
You only get one life, and they fucked mine right up. I wish there was just an option to "try again" or something, or rewind the clock.
Wouldn't it be great if you KNEW there was another life after this, where you did get another chance to "right the wrongs" and "be who you should be".
I want to die right now, and I need some sort of belief that somehow, somewhere I will get that chance to start again, and where I can live the life I was supposed to have. I need a new beginning and a reason for living.
The only thing I am grateful for, is that I had 16 wonderful years before "this crap" came along.
I'm not getting better.. I'm getting worse... and no one can help me. so whats the point of living unhappy, unhealthy, constantly declining. like you indigo, the word "loser" springs to mind. Cos of this drug. It's not how i want to be..i want to do so much, but i am powerless it seems to get my health, and ultimately my life back.
i am at envy right now from those who have freed themselves from this pain and struggle because they couln't take it no more.
i'm not going to edit this post this time. this is all accutane's fault and is how it's made me.
Laters
I kind of like how it says 'Edited by jmsil' at the bottom 
I feel a bit shit today, mostly because I went to bed too late and we have people doing work to our house, and the banging woke me up.
Plus, I was really looking forward to seeing the comedian Michael McIntyre live.
He announced a surprise gig in my small city, Norwich.
Sold out in 3 minutes though, and I couldn't get through on the phone.
Nevermind. I shouldn't have expected anything. He's fucking popular! I just hope the people who bought the tickets are going to enjoy it, and not sell their tickets on eBay for £100.
I wish I could cheer you up, James, but you're right - Nobody can help you.
When you think about your life as being over, it can bring out all those emotions.
How much better your life could have been if this hadn't happened.
But, shit does happen every day to good people like us.
Evil is allowed to conquer because good men do nothing.
I don't know what to suggest right now, because I'm feeling kind of agitated myself.
Reading things like this makes me pissed off too.
And my Dog is whining in her cage.
Everything is annoying me today.
It's so hard to find silence and peace in the world today.
I might go for a walk... though I may get rained on.
James,
Apart from getting your health back, what would make you happy right now?
You must understand that the way you're thinking isn't doing you any favours.
You (and me too) have lost our life balance.
Health isn't meant to be the whole picture.
Work, relationships, hobbies etc. need to be involved in there.
What do you like to do?
I'm going to forbid you to say 'Nothing... I used to enjoy stuff before...'
What are you good at?
What makes you go 'Yeah... This is what makes life cool for me'?
If you used to enjoy sport, which was it?
Go do it.
If you're like me, you got lucky in terms of aches with joints.
I probably can't go running without feeling it after, but light stuff like badminton is doable.
I know I want nothing more than a real life, but right now we cannot have it.
We just have to accept that.
Don't kill yourself.
You're saying you envy those who did that, but you're lying.
If that was the case, you'd call it quits.
But you don't want to.
You want to see how this all pans out.
So do I.
So, get strong. Mentally.
You've dealt with everything so far.
Give youself a pat on the back,
You can carry on.
Come up with some doable goals.
You need a sense of achievement with each day, or it feels like you're here for no reason.
But you are here.
How did you get it?
It depends on how you want to look at it, but there is obviously a reason for your life.
Go for a walk and get some air, because you need to let 'it' out right now.
Sitting around and getting worked up will just make things worse.
You've got my number if you want to chat.
Stef
If you guys are that desperate, I can understand how you don't want to try a hardcore elimination diet, but why not try at least 2 Vit-D/calcium pills in the morning?
I can't emphasize enough what a difference it made for me.
Circadian amplification means you nap and work at high energy, instead of being inbetween.
Also, the Circadian is strongly linked to depression. Vit-D will give you the power to normalize that rhythm.
I had a severe bout of depression briefly when I de-normalized my Circadian by taking Vit-D morning and night, but when I switched to morning only I had a wonderful day. I was teflon to stress.
A bottle of these is dirt cheap... just try it... there's no way it can hurt you
1 IU of Vitamin D is 25 ng.
I'm taking 3.2 ug, which is the bottle's recommended daily dose. I just take it all at once in the morning instead of spread out.
My dose in IU is
1 IU = .0025 ug -> x IU = 3.2ug -> x = 1280 IU
So I'm taking a LOT less than you, and I'm taking it with Calcium.
I don't know if Calcium will make a difference. It's involved in the biochemistry of conversion to usable form - I can tell you that much. Both usable forms have "calci" in the root word.
I've heard about magnesium but haven't researched it yet. I get a lot of it from scallops, anyway.
I may be a special case because I already get massive amounts of minerals and vitamins from my diet, the one exception being Vitamin D, which must come from sunshine. So I might've just corrected my only deficiency, and that explains my boost.
The effect: what used to be the best parts of my best days, are now my default state. Willpower is irrelevant - right action is automatic. Mood is helium filled, work ethic excellent, focus unbreakable, intelligence augmented, etc.
If I were you and didnt' want to do the elimination diet, I'd try cutting down the dosage and adding calcium. But probably the situation is as I described above, since you're taking it without enjoying much benefit.
An alternative explanation is that you are taking a different version of Vit-D than me. There's D1, D2 and D3. I don't know which I'm taking... packaging is in chinese. There's a nice pic of Yao Ming on the bottle though.
EDIT:
My girlfriend also tried Vit-D. While her Circadian has definitely strengthened, she still experiences fatigue. I'm not sure if she's noticed the change it produces, but I certainly have. So subjectively noticing the effect while still suffering from poor diet may be difficult.
Her fatigue issues are certainly due to diet, which I know because I can observe how she eats.
The fat soluble vitamins (A, D, E, K) are interrelated and supposed to be balanced. I'm researching a lot more supplements and will have more shortly. But supplements are just that - supplements to an optimal diet.
coolguy - Did you see that link Oli Girl posted here 2 weeks ago? It opened a PDF of about 20 pages, but there are 2 specific pages about Accutane (between pg 8-12 somewhere). Maybe you could print those pages out and show them to your doctor? That article sums up Accutane's origins, side effects and how bad it is pretty well, without being too long (like Nathan's report). Also, it was mentioned on here or somewhere else that Accutane is either the first or second listed drug for most reported side effects. If you can find where this "fact" originated from, he can't argue there are many other dangerous pharmaceutical drugs.
The problem is, and I don't know your doctor, but I know you will be fobbed off for blaming anything on Accutane. Especially if it is the same doctor who gave you Accutane or fowarded you to a dermatologist to go onto it. They don't want to take any responsability for anything that can go wrong with their medication, but are more than happy to hand it out.
I suggest if you go, is to ask him questions, like is it a chemotherapy drug, and other questions like this. By doing this you will no doubt get him out of his comfort zone, and this is what you need to do. He will no doubt try and brush the discussion aside but you must keep asking the "tough" questions. Anything he denies, is only then when you show him the printouts to prove you are correct and he isn't.
If you do go and see the doctor, what you should do is audio record the appointment. The excuses and defending of Accutane by doctors need to be exposed to everyone!
hi jmsil, no i dont think i did see the link but i'll look for it right after i reply to you. thanks. wow i had no idea accutane would be the first or second listed drug for most reported side effects. oh my doctor never forwarded me to see a dermatologist even though i requested to see one. he told me it'd be a waste of the derms time (he reasoned because my case is only mild acne and what he prescribes is the same as the derm.) and i had visible cysts at the time seeing my doc. also, that's part of what i recorded actually. i taped the whole conversation between me and him during that last appointment and i still have the recording. in it, i asked if accutane is a form of chemo, he admit that it is. but he denied the IBS correlation.
and yes indigorush i do intend to make another visit to see him but this time i want to be prepared to ask him everything i can about accutane. after all the damage and suffering it's done to me, i would like some answers. i would like to know what he denies and what he admits to be true. i told him i'm going to give up all prescriptions drugs forever and that i dont want any more of it from him. i don't know if he got upset about that but he wanted me to see another doctor because he said he can't provide any benefit for me, as there's nothing else he can do.