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Hi, I took accutane in April (40 mg) and May (60 mg) after suffering from severe acne for over 10-11 years. I had to stop after 2 months because I started getting tingling sensation in my feet, which then led to numbness. Doctors including my dermatologist had no idea what was causing it, but I believed it was accutane so I stopped taking it. About 2 weeks after stop taking accutane, the tingling sensation and numbness in my feet started to go away. Ever since then I've been back on Retin-A cream 0.025%. And for past 3 months, it has somewhat helped me control my acne. However, I just moved up to .05% and out of nowhere my feet tingling and now even numbness came back. I just don't know what to do. I also started breaking out after I moved up to .05% and have at least 15+ active pimples at the moment.
My first question is, is it possible that the Retin-A cream is causing my feet tingling / numbness? Cuz it was fine when I was using .025%. It is getting really bad that it's preventing me from doing any other activities.
My second question is, what should I do if I have to stop using the Retin-A cream? Even if I just take like 1 day off, I will get multiple pimples so I'm scared to stop using it but I'm also really scared to keep using it.
Are you from the U.S.??? It is possible for Accutane to cause Neuropathy and such. Also, A lot of us are unable to ingest or use any retinol products etc. after being damaged by Accutane.
Yes, I'm from the US. Also I've read like past 50 pages of this thread but didn't really answer any of my questions. I know some people cannot eat anything with vitamin A in it but never heard anyone post about how just applying it on the skin causes all these reactions and side effects.
Our skin cell receptors are %$^& up so prolonged rubbing of anything on the skin causes side effects ie re-activates the drug , not a good idea.
Hi, I took accutane in April (40 mg) and May (60 mg) after suffering from severe acne for over 10-11 years. I had to stop after 2 months because I started getting tingling sensation in my feet, which then led to numbness. Doctors including my dermatologist had no idea what was causing it, but I believed it was accutane so I stopped taking it. About 2 weeks after stop taking accutane, the tingling sensation and numbness in my feet started to go away. Ever since then I've been back on Retin-A cream 0.025%. And for past 3 months, it has somewhat helped me control my acne. However, I just moved up to .05% and out of nowhere my feet tingling and now even numbness came back. I just don't know what to do. I also started breaking out after I moved up to .05% and have at least 15+ active pimples at the moment.
My first question is, is it possible that the Retin-A cream is causing my feet tingling / numbness? Cuz it was fine when I was using .025%. It is getting really bad that it's preventing me from doing any other activities.
My second question is, what should I do if I have to stop using the Retin-A cream? Even if I just take like 1 day off, I will get multiple pimples so I'm scared to stop using it but I'm also really scared to keep using it.
Are you from the U.S.??? It is possible for Accutane to cause Neuropathy and such. Also, A lot of us are unable to ingest or use any retinol products etc. after being damaged by Accutane.
Yes, I'm from the US. Also I've read like past 50 pages of this thread but didn't really answer any of my questions. I know some people cannot eat anything with vitamin A in it but never heard anyone post about how just applying it on the skin causes all these reactions and side effects.
Our skin cell receptors are %$^& up so prolonged rubbing of anything on the skin causes side effects ie re-activates the drug , not a good idea.
Oh okay, thanks. I'm gonna stop using the Retin-A. I'm going to the doctors next week to check on my feet because it is killing me. It's like cold, tingling, throbbing, numbing to the extreme.
What should I do about my acne tho? I still have pimples all over the face. I've tried so many diff OTC products and antibiotics. I've also changed my diet. I don't eat fast food, soda or dairy bu doesn't seem to make a huge difference. If I can't get on accutane and can't use Retin-A cream, I don't know what's left to treat my acne. Any suggestions?
Hi,
i've too been poisoned by roaccutane 6 years ago.
the only thing that helped me to recover was:
-liver and kidney cleanse by andreas moritz or dr clark (10 liver flush & 2 kidney flush)
-diet change, no (refined) sugar, refined rock table salt, no red meat, grains, etc.. and eat lot of fruits.
-kefir & probiotics (who contain L.rhamnosus, B.longum, B.lactis, L.acidophilus & L.plantarum)
-red ice skate liver oil & synphonat klamath
-linseed oil
-butyric acid from olive oil (regenerate mucoca)
-coconut oil
-hyaluronic acid
-lot of sun exposure
-lot of exercice
-without medecinal purpose (they kinda poisoned me, but maybe they've done some good things): i've eat heated cannabis with oil and i've poisoned myself with MMS gas (jim humble) while mixing ingredients.
I've see people who healed themselves with isopathy, i will try it soon to fix the remaining accutane effects.
Good kombucha contain a lot of glucuronic acid & glucaric acid who can help detoxification.
This superfood seems powerful: [Removed]
Wheatgrass and DNA Repair
Dr. Yasuo Hotta, a biologist al the University of California at San Diego, has isolated another compound from young grasses. Provisionally named PDI, this substance has shown the ability to stimulate the production and natural repair of human reproductive sperm cells and DNA. Dr. Hotta tested reproductive cells rather than somatic cells (the ones that makeup body tissues) because of their remarkable ability to repair damaged DNA, thus ensuring the health of the newborn. The experiment consisted of firs I damaging one group of spermatocytes with X-radiation and administering a toxic chemical to another group. Some of the damaged cells from each group were then allowed to recover on their own, and others were given PDI. When the cells were incubated under normal controlled conditions, the added extract increased the number of cells repaired and the speed at which the repairs took place.
Anyone here tried phosphatidylcholine or lecithin, they are supposed to help detox the liver and are used in pharma products such as Essential Forte?
Joseph is probably interested in this link:
http://www.drmyhill.co.uk/wiki/Ulcerative_colitis_and_phosphatidylcholine_(PC)_in_the_gut
Hi, I took accutane in April (40 mg) and May (60 mg) after suffering from severe acne for over 10-11 years. I had to stop after 2 months because I started getting tingling sensation in my feet, which then led to numbness. Doctors including my dermatologist had no idea what was causing it, but I believed it was accutane so I stopped taking it. About 2 weeks after stop taking accutane, the tingling sensation and numbness in my feet started to go away. Ever since then I've been back on Retin-A cream 0.025%. And for past 3 months, it has somewhat helped me control my acne. However, I just moved up to .05% and out of nowhere my feet tingling and now even numbness came back. I just don't know what to do. I also started breaking out after I moved up to .05% and have at least 15+ active pimples at the moment.
My first question is, is it possible that the Retin-A cream is causing my feet tingling / numbness? Cuz it was fine when I was using .025%. It is getting really bad that it's preventing me from doing any other activities.
My second question is, what should I do if I have to stop using the Retin-A cream? Even if I just take like 1 day off, I will get multiple pimples so I'm scared to stop using it but I'm also really scared to keep using it.
Are you from the U.S.??? It is possible for Accutane to cause Neuropathy and such. Also, A lot of us are unable to ingest or use any retinol products etc. after being damaged by Accutane.
Yes, I'm from the US. Also I've read like past 50 pages of this thread but didn't really answer any of my questions. I know some people cannot eat anything with vitamin A in it but never heard anyone post about how just applying it on the skin causes all these reactions and side effects.
Our skin cell receptors are %$^& up so prolonged rubbing of anything on the skin causes side effects ie re-activates the drug , not a good idea.
Oh okay, thanks. I'm gonna stop using the Retin-A. I'm going to the doctors next week to check on my feet because it is killing me. It's like cold, tingling, throbbing, numbing to the extreme.
What should I do about my acne tho? I still have pimples all over the face. I've tried so many diff OTC products and antibiotics. I've also changed my diet. I don't eat fast food, soda or dairy bu doesn't seem to make a huge difference. If I can't get on accutane and can't use Retin-A cream, I don't know what's left to treat my acne. Any suggestions?
Find the right diet that works for you , acne is 100% diet related , if you are prone to acne of course , think about it in the third world countries there is basically 0 acne why is that , they don't eat processed food and have a very simple diet , read my link.
http://archderm.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=479093
Hi, I took accutane in April (40 mg) and May (60 mg) after suffering from severe acne for over 10-11 years. I had to stop after 2 months because I started getting tingling sensation in my feet, which then led to numbness. Doctors including my dermatologist had no idea what was causing it, but I believed it was accutane so I stopped taking it. About 2 weeks after stop taking accutane, the tingling sensation and numbness in my feet started to go away. Ever since then I've been back on Retin-A cream 0.025%. And for past 3 months, it has somewhat helped me control my acne. However, I just moved up to .05% and out of nowhere my feet tingling and now even numbness came back. I just don't know what to do. I also started breaking out after I moved up to .05% and have at least 15+ active pimples at the moment.
My first question is, is it possible that the Retin-A cream is causing my feet tingling / numbness? Cuz it was fine when I was using .025%. It is getting really bad that it's preventing me from doing any other activities.
My second question is, what should I do if I have to stop using the Retin-A cream? Even if I just take like 1 day off, I will get multiple pimples so I'm scared to stop using it but I'm also really scared to keep using it.
Are you from the U.S.??? It is possible for Accutane to cause Neuropathy and such. Also, A lot of us are unable to ingest or use any retinol products etc. after being damaged by Accutane.
Yes, I'm from the US. Also I've read like past 50 pages of this thread but didn't really answer any of my questions. I know some people cannot eat anything with vitamin A in it but never heard anyone post about how just applying it on the skin causes all these reactions and side effects.
Our skin cell receptors are %$^& up so prolonged rubbing of anything on the skin causes side effects ie re-activates the drug , not a good idea.
Oh okay, thanks. I'm gonna stop using the Retin-A. I'm going to the doctors next week to check on my feet because it is killing me. It's like cold, tingling, throbbing, numbing to the extreme.
What should I do about my acne tho? I still have pimples all over the face. I've tried so many diff OTC products and antibiotics. I've also changed my diet. I don't eat fast food, soda or dairy bu doesn't seem to make a huge difference. If I can't get on accutane and can't use Retin-A cream, I don't know what's left to treat my acne. Any suggestions?
Find the right diet that works for you , acne is 100% diet related , if you are prone to acne of course , think about it in the third world countries there is basically 0 acne why is that , they don't eat processed food and have a very simple diet , read my link.
http://archderm.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=479093
Acne is mulfactorial, diet plays a huge role, but so do genes, accumulated toxins in the system, stress....
Hi, I took accutane in April (40 mg) and May (60 mg) after suffering from severe acne for over 10-11 years. I had to stop after 2 months because I started getting tingling sensation in my feet, which then led to numbness. Doctors including my dermatologist had no idea what was causing it, but I believed it was accutane so I stopped taking it. About 2 weeks after stop taking accutane, the tingling sensation and numbness in my feet started to go away. Ever since then I've been back on Retin-A cream 0.025%. And for past 3 months, it has somewhat helped me control my acne. However, I just moved up to .05% and out of nowhere my feet tingling and now even numbness came back. I just don't know what to do. I also started breaking out after I moved up to .05% and have at least 15+ active pimples at the moment.
My first question is, is it possible that the Retin-A cream is causing my feet tingling / numbness? Cuz it was fine when I was using .025%. It is getting really bad that it's preventing me from doing any other activities.
My second question is, what should I do if I have to stop using the Retin-A cream? Even if I just take like 1 day off, I will get multiple pimples so I'm scared to stop using it but I'm also really scared to keep using it.
Are you from the U.S.??? It is possible for Accutane to cause Neuropathy and such. Also, A lot of us are unable to ingest or use any retinol products etc. after being damaged by Accutane.
Yes, I'm from the US. Also I've read like past 50 pages of this thread but didn't really answer any of my questions. I know some people cannot eat anything with vitamin A in it but never heard anyone post about how just applying it on the skin causes all these reactions and side effects.
Our skin cell receptors are %$^& up so prolonged rubbing of anything on the skin causes side effects ie re-activates the drug , not a good idea.
Oh okay, thanks. I'm gonna stop using the Retin-A. I'm going to the doctors next week to check on my feet because it is killing me. It's like cold, tingling, throbbing, numbing to the extreme.
What should I do about my acne tho? I still have pimples all over the face. I've tried so many diff OTC products and antibiotics. I've also changed my diet. I don't eat fast food, soda or dairy bu doesn't seem to make a huge difference. If I can't get on accutane and can't use Retin-A cream, I don't know what's left to treat my acne. Any suggestions?
Find the right diet that works for you , acne is 100% diet related , if you are prone to acne of course , think about it in the third world countries there is basically 0 acne why is that , they don't eat processed food and have a very simple diet , read my link.
http://archderm.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=479093
Acne is mulfactorial, diet plays a huge role, but so do genes, accumulated toxins in the system, stress....
True , but mostly diet related but for females it can be hormonal no doubt , still if you think about it in the non-developed countries females don't have acne either so...... in the western countries , toxins , stress , processed food , acne prone genes come into play thus in our part of the world I guess it is multi-factoral to a point.
Hi all,
I've only posted a few times here. Some of you might have seen that I had a horrible and swift (and admittedly rare) reaction to Accutane. I took 5 pills in July (cumulative 200 mg) and have been living a nightmare ever since. The worst problems have been the depression and the way it has absolutely decimated my skin. I cannot believe how thin my skin has gotten in 7 weeks. It also made my feet start peeling 4 weeks after taking it.
I am now on an anti-depressant and an alpha-blocker. My face looks completely different to me because of the skin loss. My eyelids are literally paper thin. You don't get the skin around your eyes back, so the devastation has been beyond description.
Does anyone have any insight into if and when this will stop?
Hi all,
I've only posted a few times here. Some of you might have seen that I had a horrible and swift (and admittedly rare) reaction to Accutane. I took 5 pills in July (cumulative 200 mg) and have been living a nightmare ever since. The worst problems have been the depression and the way it has absolutely decimated my skin. I cannot believe how thin my skin has gotten in 7 weeks. It also made my feet start peeling 4 weeks after taking it.
I am now on an anti-depressant and an alpha-blocker. My face looks completely different to me because of the skin loss. My eyelids are literally paper thin. You don't get the skin around your eyes back, so the devastation has been beyond description.
Does anyone have any insight into if and when this will stop?
Try lithium orotate and get of the SSRIs there bad news , that's amazing you only took 200 mg and you have such severe side effects WOW , no one knows the long term consequences of this drug so it's hard to say , heck Roche the maker says they don't even know the mechanism of it's actions , which I doubt sounds more like a cover- up to me , revealing the mechanism of the drug would cost them tons of $$$$ hence there seemingly lack of knowledge...
Good luck , read lots of pages on here , you will learn something no doubt there is a ton of info to be found.
Thanks for getting back to me. In a perfect world I wouldn't be on any drugs, but I was near being dangerous to myself. Tis a band aid, but the most intense and painful suffering is at bay for now while I figure out my next move.
It's absolutely incredible - 200 mg. When I took my last pill, I knew my reaction was extremely bad, but I thought "I only took it for 5 days, it'll even back out." And I am still in hell.
Most modern maladies (including ACNE ) are caused by prolonged exposure to a combination of negative lifestyles and toxic environmental factors, including junk food and malnutrition, pesticides, antibiotics, microwaves, chemical pollution of food, water and air, lack of exercise and chronic stress. These factors are further aggravated by the failure of modern medicine to recognize them as agents of dis-"ease" and death and the consequent failure to take preventative measures against them. - See more at: http://www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com/ConsumerAlert/Alert.aspx#sthash.fNNI5yYO.dpuf
You should try long fermenting and unpastheurized living kombucha (contain glucaric & glucuronic acid). I try it since 5 days and it's a really good method (among with those of my past post). The only kombucha who work really well for me is this one: "D-TOX kombucha" but it's a french brand. Every time i take it my mood & skin become 10times comfortable than usual (feeling that my skin become lot more thicker), its quite strange.
I am starting to break out from the B Complex without PABA and Inositol as well, so I researched some more and found out that some people get breakouts from the Vitamins B6 and B12. I compared the B6 and B12 dosage of the B Complex I took years ago with that of my current one and found that the B12 dosage is much higher by a factor of 100 or so, whereas B6 was almost the same. Besides I have supplemented B6 individually in the past without problems.
So my first conclusion that PABA or Inositol may cause breakouts was wrong, apparently it is either B6 or B12, at least it seems quite common when you google it. There are even threads about it on this forum.
hello, this is the first time i'm posting something because i think ive bit of experience and knowledge from all these years .
my story
been on isotroin on and off for three years , i remember my teacher doubting me for my red lips and coming late for me being on something narcotic,[Edited image out]
all i want to say about this drug is , it is poison . all my lfe ive been cautious about what to eat and what to avoid , i used to use two three face wash and scrubs at time of bath . my skin has taken so much from deramarollers to acid peels to harsh chemicals to several peels . all i watned to be clear . could pay large amounts at that time , and isotroin was cheap drug .
fast forward
21 now about to go 22
problems in pocket now
s.dermatitis flaky skin all the time
ibd or similar (diagnosis are on)
psycological
memory loss
anxiety
confusion ( this is serious like this is major , when there are two options i check time if end number is even ill go with something if its odd ill go with other)
brain fog
lack of concentration
lack of confidence
self esteem
depression (chronic)
negitive thoughts ( susidal )
low body growth
weakness
phew thats so many[Edited image out]god help me.
now how i cope up .
at beginning of year i had this accident which led me to hospital , i was in severe pain , apparently i was not eating well and lack of speep with my weak stomach induced unbearable pain. i did not know that before i did the aftermath . when i was on hospital bed , i cried and called my parents and told them im not feeling well come to hospital. they rushed , at that time i thought this is it , end. there was this hot actress on tv . i said to my self ill surely miss her ..(trying to keep my spirits high) so my point is life is happening when you are not around , ive been so depressed without reason for so much time . that reminded me even the small thing like walking out of ground after playing soccer with friends was such a joyful thing .
remedies work for me might to wonders (youll have to belive me though )
im not gonna suggest anything tropical or in diet , dont trust everything you read on internet i had some real adverse affects
what im gonna suggest , things most people would have suggested you , or something so simple yet unbeliveble
we tend to ignore small things so we are so focused on looking for cure .reversing damage ,remedies name it . start day with reseaching stuff and end it on mid night or till we tired ,
to apply these you will have to break that cycle , get out of it , i know its hard we are constantly focused on it that we cant think of something else ,
diet - add good food , do not keep elemnating food and not replace it . in the end youll end up skinny with weak immune system
competetive sports -- when you read quotes like :"when i step on field my worries are gone" well thats true . when you are in it , you forget where you come from where you stand in social hierarchy . this gives you break from stress , its more than a game its about trust , dedication , love , respect. one thing it has thought me that practice and dedication can get you many things . my doctor was surpised to see hemoglobin of 17 in the range of 13-17.5 and i give it to soccer .i could keep writing about it , but its not the place
tropically - i've stopped every vague chemicals and sometimes i just take bath with just normal water like a normal person
yoga - it comes from my land and i was so closed about it and so naive trusting medical science . i coud name 5 disease with no cure right here . im not saying its bad . it should be reserved and in emergency it could be life saver . before reaching there i would suggest healthy lifestyle . breathing exercise and meditation is enough , ive been doing it for quiet some time and now i know its value , in school i had it as subject and i was so snotty about it ,. i regret it now
i know where you stand and what you feel , ive been there , and i want to tell you , you are missing a lot . dont you want to be independent and break free. Disease is a burden to you and others around you. you could live or just be living dead . things like being in love getting job and a peaceful life seemes distant reallity for me . ,if you belive what ive suggested it will make it better and worth living , im sure you would be able to live like a normal person. if i have suggested you a pill to take every day you might have , but if i have told you to make a person laugh every day , you might have not.
i want to finish it by saying ' Your biggest enemy is your own mind". stay stong . i want to quote somthing someone told me , if devil gives you trouble god will give more strength.
Well got my RS-ALA (racemic mixture of the R and S form) today, but still am not 100% sure if I got the stuff that is most bioavailable, although I read a lot. But unfortunately the product I ordered - I ordered ALA as a raw material - does not say which kind of ALA it is, only got the oral confirmation of the supplier that it is RS-ALA.
ALA (alpha lipoic acid) is from what I read extremely potent, but people see mixed results from taking it. One reason is that they are not all taking the same form of ALA, another reason is that it depletes Vitamin Bs over time, which therefore you have to supplement when doing ALA. There are many more reasons I could get into. ALA is a strong antioxidant, can chelate even heavy metals, regenerates the liver, increases insulin sensitivity and the list goes on.
I would welcome if some of you guys would look into the supplement, because from what I have read it is potentially the most potent supplement I have come across. Another reason I am asking is because ALA is quite complex to understand, you will understand that once you have read a little more about the topic.
ALA is not the average supplement it has been used in conservative medicine for decades in some countries. The following interview with Dr. Burt Berkson - former FDA official and university professor - is a good starting point as well as the following video which explains ALA and the different forms of ALA that are available:
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Berkson also wrote a bestseller on ALA, just google it. Good book, read it.
What you should not do is just go out there and buy an ALA supplement. If you do try Biotech Pharmacal, which is the kind that Berkson recommends, however it is extremely price considering, you should probably take 600 mg to 1200 mg daily. Also it may turn out that although Berkson recommends only RS-ALA that stabilised R-ALA not conventional R-ALA may be better absorbed by the body.
If one of you guys has a strong heavy metal toxicity ALA is for you, but you should be especially careful and become knowledgable about the stuff before taking it.
Well got this racemate of alapha lipoic acid (RS ALA) and I am not going to take it although I spend a fortune on it.
At about 60 C it becomes a polymer, tested it myself, and it does not fully dissolve in water or citric acid. I don't see how my body would be able to absorb it. Apparently it is widely used in pill form, but whatever, this RS form of ALA just does not seem safe to me.
Did some more research and apparently BB don't take the racemic mixture either they take other forms of ALA such as NA-R-ALA or just R-ALA.
This link here is the bomb, best site ever:
It's been 4 years since I've finished my low dose isotretinoin course and I'm still losing sleep over persistent side effects, namely:
- bright stools
- statorrhea (inability to digest fatty foods)
- constipation
- stomach gurgling
- constant gas
- malabsorbtion
- occasional diarrhea
- weakness
- dry mouth & eyes (obviously)
- cold hands & feet (thyroid?)
Bright stools and steatorrhea may suggest a pancreatic disorder (steatorrhea is a common manifestation of exocrine pancreatic insufficiency - "In order for someone to develop exocrine pancreatic insufficiency, 90 percent of the pancreas has to be destroyed,). Great perspective for someone in his 20's.
It is important to emphasize that - while on Isotretinoin - my lab tests were usually normal (apart from a very slight increase in bilirubin, which normalized after 2 weeks). Other liver parameters (ALT, AST) were even better than before I started Isotretinoin (probably due to a strict diet and liver supplements).
Anyway, I'm planning to do a CT scan and Endoscopic ultrasound to check the pancreas, but I'm afraid that I already know the results.
It's been 4 years since I've finished my low dose isotretinoin course and I'm still losing sleep over persistent side effects, namely:
- bright stools
- statorrhea (inability to digest fatty foods)
- constipation
- stomach gurgling
- constant gas
- malabsorbtion
- occasional diarrhea
- weakness
- dry mouth & eyes (obviously)
- cold hands & feet (thyroid?)
Bright stools and steatorrhea may suggest a pancreatic disorder (steatorrhea is a common manifestation of exocrine pancreatic insufficiency - "In order for someone to develop exocrine pancreatic insufficiency, 90 percent of the pancreas has to be destroyed,). Great perspective for someone in his 20's.
It is important to emphasize that - while on Isotretinoin - my lab tests were usually normal (apart from a very slight increase in bilirubin, which normalized after 2 weeks). Other liver parameters (ALT, AST) were even better than before I started Isotretinoin (probably due to a strict diet and liver supplements).
Anyway, I'm planning to do a CT scan and Endoscopic ultrasound to check the pancreas, but I'm afraid that I already know the results.
It seems like what has helped Joseph and me will probably help you too although we have more been working on the angle of the gallbladder and the liver, but the pancreas is right in there and glucose is definitely a major player in this system. UDCA will make your body digest fats again.
I have used supplements to support the pancrease in the past, they helped but they only worked while taking them. I believe you can cure pretty much anything in your body. With regards to the pancreas you got to raise insulin sensitivity. ALA, cinnamon, chromium picolinate may all help here.
On 9/13/2013 at 7:11 PM, Undergroundwellness said:It seems like what has helped Joseph and me will probably help you too. I have used supplements to support the pancrease in the past, they helped but they only worked while taking them. I believe you can cure pretty much anything in your body. With regards to the pancreas you got to raise insulin sensitivity. ALA, cinnamon, chromium picolinate may all help here.
I've finished 4 bottles of Na-RALA, but unfortunately didn't noticed any improvement. I will try pancreatic (digestive) enzymes, and if they help, then it probably means that my pancreas is significantly damaged (I really hope it's not chronic pancreatitis [Edited image out] ).