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(@lamarr1986)

Posted : 06/05/2008 6:17 am

Yeah bro i understand some people don't have much regrowth at the same time as shedding. But what i mean is, if you stop shedding more than what is normal for you, then generally the underlying cause has stopped, thus it would just be a matter of time until you see regrowth. Don't get me wrong though it can take 12 months for hair to regrow in some people.

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Posted : 06/05/2008 6:32 am

Yeah, it would be great if hair shedding come to a halt, so we could focus totally on hair regrowth. But the truth is, it is alway the opposite that happen.

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(@superman75)

Posted : 06/05/2008 3:23 pm

Lately I've been looking at the connection between accutane and hypervitamintosis A, and I think its fair to say anyone who takes accutane suffers from this, and one of the potential symptoms of it is hair loss...

 

The question I have is that hypervitamintosis A is simply an overdose of the vitamin itself and part of the reason we experience the symptoms is because it is obviously not out of our system. We all know that vitamin A "stays in our liver" potentially for an extended amount of time after taking the drug. So is it reasonable to say that if you got your liver flushed you might rid yourself of the remaining vitamin A in your body, therefore eliminating the hypervitamintosis?

 

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(@lamarr1986)

Posted : 06/05/2008 6:15 pm

Superman, Vitamnin A is stored in a number of places for a very long time, in particular adipose tissue. You may find you feel worse if you went and lost alot of weight fairly rapidly, for this very reason.

 

Edit: and to answer your question, probably not. The changes have been made by tane and you just have to hope your body can correct them somewhat. Accutane kind of wacks out the equalibrium of our immune system.

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Posted : 06/06/2008 3:30 am

My eyebrows filled up rapidly but somehow there is no regrow on my scalp which is rather weird.

 

Anyway, I agree with lamarr regarding rapid weight lost make one feel worse because I lost 8kg for the past two months due to depression and poor appetite and I suffer from body aching which is exactly the same problem when I was on accutane. This might indicate that the vitamin A was releases from the fats which had been burn while I was losing weight.

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(@lamarr1986)

Posted : 06/06/2008 4:44 am

Yep max i have the same thing when i do 'cutting' as bodybuilders know that is rapid weightloss from exercise whilst maintaining muscle mass. I feel physically sick if i loose weight to quickly, before tane i would of just felt great ( i have done the same thing every summer for about 5 years).

 

Your eyebrows fill in quicker as they have a much shorter telogen length (rest phase). scalp regrowth should follow...

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(@jessie2)

Posted : 06/06/2008 7:45 am

hi lamarr1986,

how long is the telogen length(rest phase) for the eyebrow and the scalp?

does that mean if u see regrowth on the eyebrow means there will be instant regrowth on the scalp? thanks

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(@lamarr1986)

Posted : 06/06/2008 5:43 pm

Jessie it is impossible to say how long the telogen for the eyebrows and eyelashes are, because normally the telogen is actually longer than the scalp (9 months for eyebrows vs 2-4 months ish for scalp hair). But for some reason in Alopecia Areata (Which is what we have if you have hairloss from other parts of the body) They regrow much faster than the scalp hair. What i mean by what i said earlier is that the hair on the scalp should begin to grow shortly after it has on your eyebrows. The whole thing will varey a great deal from person to person. But if you are getting regrowth on your eyebrows and assuming you don't have another form of hairloss on your scalp such as male pattern baldness, the regrowth should follow on within the next month or so....

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(@thili55)

Posted : 06/07/2008 6:01 pm

Ugh this is not going good guys. My hair looks noticeably worse each and every week. I may have to consider some kind of treatment. Perhaps rogaine. My hair is coming out everywhere on my head, but the worst spot being hit is at the very top.

 

I started accutane October 07. I took 40mg each month and ended beginning of april. My hairloss had started around feb/march and its still going strong to this day. Im scared to shower and wash my hair. Im gonna be wearing a hat all summer if this doesnt turn around quick. I was lookin with a mirror for regrowth but it was too hard to see. Im going to have to make an apt to get checked out. The last words my derm told me as I walked out of his office were "dont worry the hair will grow back".

 

Fuck me why did I take accutane.

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(@phan23)

Posted : 06/15/2008 12:42 am

This is a picture of me from far away. You tell the top of my head is thin :confused:

Its been 2years plus now I think my hair is slowly thinning away. I got maybe another year before theres a big ball spot on top my head.

 

 

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(@blazedjin)

Posted : 06/15/2008 6:58 am

Don't worry too much phan the pattern loss doesn't seem too extreme. The reason I say this because you don't have Diffuse AA in Ophiasis pattern which is what I have right now. Most people with this pattern end up going totally bald which starts from nape and behind the ears first. It is most likely that you will have thin hair but will not go bald. Its only been a year and few months and my loss pattern is on its way to become like this.

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(@phan23)

Posted : 06/15/2008 5:39 pm

Does anyone here know how long it takes for the effects of accutane to wear off?

If I remembered correctly I took two courses of accutane about 5 years apart. I started getting acne again like 3-4 years after the first course.

 

Maybe once the full effect of this drug wears off our hair will start to grow back :think:

 

So don't give up guys. I think this hair loss will need 3-5 years to recover.

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(@superman75)

Posted : 06/15/2008 10:43 pm

Phan, that fuckin sucks man. And as for the AAreata pic...maybe that's what I have to look forward to down the road. LMAO, this last page sure was encouraging!

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(@lamarr1986)

Posted : 06/16/2008 8:38 am

Does anyone here know how long it takes for the effects of accutane to wear off?

If I remembered correctly I took two courses of accutane about 5 years apart. I started getting acne again like 3-4 years after the first course.

 

Maybe once the full effect of this drug wears off our hair will start to grow back :think:

 

So don't give up guys. I think this hair loss will need 3-5 years to recover.

 

I have read that the effects of accutane can be excerted on the skin to a certain extent for up to 9-10 years...

 

i think once you get past a few years you are in it for a very long time, i know several people who still suffer from constant shedding of their hair from the entire body, 8 years post tane.

 

Phan i don't think your hair will get much worse than it is now, so try not to worry.

 

The only good thing is that i feel treatments are on the horizen for us, there are many options in the near future, so chin up guys, there are far worse things.

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Posted : 06/16/2008 9:30 am

Treatments are avalible. But all are lousy treatments because they provide temporary relief only, and once you stop using those products then the hair will start to fall out again.

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(@lamarr1986)

Posted : 06/16/2008 9:41 am

Max, i was talking about future cures, not current day treatments. Besides that, is it so much effort to either apply something once or twice a day, or visit a derm every 6 weeks for a quick injection?

 

Many people have to do things much more drastic just to stay in this world, we have the option to do such things to keep our hair!!

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(@blazedjin)

Posted : 06/16/2008 11:37 am

Max, nothing is a guarantee in life but death so you mind as well give these treatments a try. Every persons body react different so who knows. I didn't get any dents from the injections like some other people get, but I also didn't have any regrowth which some people experience.

 

I hope they find a cure for baldness soon!

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(@lamarr1986)

Posted : 06/16/2008 12:03 pm

Max, nothing is a guarantee in life but death so you mind as well give these treatments a try. Every persons body react different so who knows. I didn't get any dents from the injections like some other people get, but I also didn't have any regrowth which some people experience.

 

I hope they find a cure for baldness soon!

 

Bro i'm confident if you had kept them up you would of got regrowth.

 

I had to change my regieme a bit, but it is pretty simple and takes about 1 minute a day. I use activ M in the morning, and clobetasol scalp solution at night. I also use a high powered Laser system, whilst watching a movie or tv. This seems to be keeping me pretty stable, and looking at my hair other than the texture being fucked from tane you wouldn't have a clue im loosing hair.

 

 

Laser does work but not those shitty brushes you see advertised. You also need to use it with something that is going to supress the immune system like the clobetasol.

 

Dr Chu told me once daily application of clobetasol should cause no long term problems.

 

Hope your doing good blazed man.

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(@blazedjin)

Posted : 06/16/2008 1:00 pm

Lamarr, why did you stop using Lidex? Does it no longer work for you? My hair on the top is fine but its the sides I most worried about and according to other sites its the most stubborn area even with treatment. Did you notice any difference between clobetasol and lidex?

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(@lamarr1986)

Posted : 06/16/2008 3:02 pm

I have never used lidex, i have said lidex before for ease of communication. My equivalent of lidex is betamethasone, which i do use yeah.

 

If i go into detail here is exactly what i do:

 

Every day in the morning i apply aciv m to the temple and hairline region, then in the evening i apply clobetasol propinate (dermovate (olux where you are)) to the temple and hairline region and betnovate (betamethasone) which is similar in strength to the lidex, across my entire scalp.

 

The reason i do this is that my GP doesn't like giving out alot of clobetasol propinate all the time, so i compromise.

 

But to answer the question, yeah my equivalent of lidex helps me alot, it cuts the shedding down by about 60% when applied across my entire scalp, coupled with resistance training and the light therapy and i actually only notice my hairloss when i wash my hair now, i loose about 40-50 in the shower when i wash, also my hairloss has become more like Davids, in that the hair actually takes some scrubbing to fall out now.

 

My eyelashes have stopped shedding again, and my eyebrows are doing alot better.

 

Edit: yeah i do notice a difference between the lidix and olux, although it is only about a 20% difference in shedding (in favour of the olux ofcourse). It also gave me some folliculitus where as the lidex doesn't. If anything you will see better results with lidex than i do with betamethasone because lidex is slightly more potent, we don't have anything in between betamethasone and clobetasol here, otherwise i would give it a go.

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(@blazedjin)

Posted : 06/16/2008 4:20 pm

Have you seen thick hairs growing on temple region from Olux? I might say topical steroid may help with the shedding but I haven't yet seen any regrowth. Anyway thanks for sticking around when everybody else recovered and left.

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(@lamarr1986)

Posted : 06/16/2008 4:34 pm

Yeah bro i have definate thick hairs regrowing in areas where they weren't before, it just takes a very long time on the temple/hairline area!!

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Posted : 06/17/2008 2:43 pm

Lamar (Mark) - why did you give up on the minox? what laser are you using? i paid a crapload for the in-salon lasers twice a week but just gave it up because it was so expensive. I have actually reached my breaking point. i spoke to a "medical psychic" today (upon a rec from another site) - i feel like i have lost my mind with this crap. I don't even care if my hair grows back anymore - i'm just praying for the shed to decrease. it had for about a month - was down to about 70 and then for the last 2 days it's back up to 150ish (i did switch to revita 6 weeks ago and started activ f (for females) about 8 weeks ago - maybe that is the problem). The psychic told me that the accutane was the trigger and that it's my overwhelming high stress level that still is making my hair fall out. i don't what to believe anymore. i'm so close to shaving off my entire head. i guess the last stop for me would be rogaine but i plan on having kids in a year or 2 so that really doesn't make sense to start that whole process only to have to stop it. Cannot believe it's been over a year of this shit and we are still dealing with it.

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(@blazedjin)

Posted : 06/17/2008 5:05 pm

Just talked to someone who was loosing his hair for 3 years, the loss stopped but he never recovered the hair that was loss. I am just hoping that this will happen to me!

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(@lamarr1986)

Posted : 06/17/2008 5:17 pm

Lamar (Mark) - why did you give up on the minox? what laser are you using? i paid a crapload for the in-salon lasers twice a week but just gave it up because it was so expensive. I have actually reached my breaking point. i spoke to a "medical psychic" today (upon a rec from another site) - i feel like i have lost my mind with this crap. I don't even care if my hair grows back anymore - i'm just praying for the shed to decrease. it had for about a month - was down to about 70 and then for the last 2 days it's back up to 150ish (i did switch to revita 6 weeks ago and started activ f (for females) about 8 weeks ago - maybe that is the problem). The psychic told me that the accutane was the trigger and that it's my overwhelming high stress level that still is making my hair fall out. i don't what to believe anymore. i'm so close to shaving off my entire head. i guess the last stop for me would be rogaine but i plan on having kids in a year or 2 so that really doesn't make sense to start that whole process only to have to stop it. Cannot believe it's been over a year of this shit and we are still dealing with it.

 

The minox worked great for me, but i had to stop it because my accutane induced rosacea (flushing), was agrrevated by the vasodialation of the minoxidil. Life is an absolute bitch living with accutane sides, i find a solution for something but it aggrevates another side...

 

Gracie you shouldn't give up because i have only read of one case in a woman that they didn't stop shedding/regrow their hair...

 

Edit: Gracie how much do you feel the laser was helping with the hairloss?

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