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(@_andy_)

Posted : 06/26/2007 8:13 am

To be honest now Im not sure if I ever stopped shedding. I think the shedding slowed down and I stopped worrying about it so I didnt notice it anymore. But since a few days ago it has started to speed up. It's about 4 months since I stopped accutane and 5 months of shedding.

 

My theory is that hair starts growing back about 100 days after the Accutane is out of your system. My doctor told me that Accutane is out of your system in 2 months. Hair should start growing back at 5 months and 2 weeks, then. That's my theory. If I'm right, I'll have good news in about a week. But I'm probably wrong.

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Posted : 06/26/2007 8:15 am

To be honest now Im not sure if I ever stopped shedding. I think the shedding slowed down and I stopped worrying about it so I didnt notice it anymore. But since a few days ago it has started to speed up. It's about 4 months since I stopped accutane and 5 months of shedding.

 

My theory is that hair starts growing back about 100 days after the Accutane is out of your system. My doctor told me that Accutane is out of your system in 2 months. Hair should start growing back at 5 months and 2 weeks, then. That's my theory. If I'm right, I'll have good news in about a week. But I'm probably wrong.

 

regrowth?.. Im not sure what to expect, but it would be a dream come true to see little hairs sprouting up in certain areas of my scalp.

 

And when I said white sheath I meant the bottom milimeter or so of each hair is white the same color as the bulb.

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Posted : 06/26/2007 8:28 am

To be honest now Im not sure if I ever stopped shedding. I think the shedding slowed down and I stopped worrying about it so I didnt notice it anymore. But since a few days ago it has started to speed up. It's about 4 months since I stopped accutane and 5 months of shedding.

 

My theory is that hair starts growing back about 100 days after the Accutane is out of your system. My doctor told me that Accutane is out of your system in 2 months. Hair should start growing back at 5 months and 2 weeks, then. That's my theory. If I'm right, I'll have good news in about a week. But I'm probably wrong.

 

regrowth?.. Im not sure what to expect, but it would be a dream come true to see little hairs sprouting up in certain areas of my scalp.

 

And when I said white sheath I meant the bottom milimeter or so of each hair is white the same color as the bulb.

 

 

Believe me: I would start doing summersaults in the streets. I'd have the Guinness World Book of Records there ready to witness a new record. That's how ecstatic I'll be.

 

I see now what you mean by "white sheath." I'm not sure that's the same thing that's described in the literature. I see that on my hairs, too. Do your hairs look like exclamation points? Alopecia areata has hairs that are thick in diameter at the top, then taper off, then have a white bulb. Like an exclamation point. Sometimes I wonder if this is an auto-immune problem.

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Posted : 06/26/2007 8:41 am

To be honest now Im not sure if I ever stopped shedding. I think the shedding slowed down and I stopped worrying about it so I didnt notice it anymore. But since a few days ago it has started to speed up. It's about 4 months since I stopped accutane and 5 months of shedding.

 

My theory is that hair starts growing back about 100 days after the Accutane is out of your system. My doctor told me that Accutane is out of your system in 2 months. Hair should start growing back at 5 months and 2 weeks, then. That's my theory. If I'm right, I'll have good news in about a week. But I'm probably wrong.

 

regrowth?.. Im not sure what to expect, but it would be a dream come true to see little hairs sprouting up in certain areas of my scalp.

 

And when I said white sheath I meant the bottom milimeter or so of each hair is white the same color as the bulb.

 

 

Believe me: I would start doing summersaults in the streets. I'd have the Guinness World Book of Records there ready to witness a new record. That's how ecstatic I'll be.

 

I see now what you mean by "white sheath." I'm not sure that's the same thing that's described in the literature. I see that on my hairs, too. Do your hairs look like exclamation points? Alopecia areata has hairs that are thick in diameter at the top, then taper off, then have a white bulb. Like an exclamation point. Sometimes I wonder if this is an auto-immune problem.

 

No with mine the white part is the same thickness. But I think I may have found another cause of my hair loss. I've been taking 50mg of zinc a day, and I just read that zinc overdose can cause hair loss.. great. I just dont understand why I dont see any regrowth yet.

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Posted : 06/26/2007 11:15 am

To be honest now Im not sure if I ever stopped shedding. I think the shedding slowed down and I stopped worrying about it so I didnt notice it anymore. But since a few days ago it has started to speed up. It's about 4 months since I stopped accutane and 5 months of shedding.

 

My theory is that hair starts growing back about 100 days after the Accutane is out of your system. My doctor told me that Accutane is out of your system in 2 months. Hair should start growing back at 5 months and 2 weeks, then. That's my theory. If I'm right, I'll have good news in about a week. But I'm probably wrong.

 

regrowth?.. Im not sure what to expect, but it would be a dream come true to see little hairs sprouting up in certain areas of my scalp.

 

And when I said white sheath I meant the bottom milimeter or so of each hair is white the same color as the bulb.

 

 

Believe me: I would start doing summersaults in the streets. I'd have the Guinness World Book of Records there ready to witness a new record. That's how ecstatic I'll be.

 

I see now what you mean by "white sheath." I'm not sure that's the same thing that's described in the literature. I see that on my hairs, too. Do your hairs look like exclamation points? Alopecia areata has hairs that are thick in diameter at the top, then taper off, then have a white bulb. Like an exclamation point. Sometimes I wonder if this is an auto-immune problem.

 

No with mine the white part is the same thickness. But I think I may have found another cause of my hair loss. I've been taking 50mg of zinc a day, and I just read that zinc overdose can cause hair loss.. great. I just dont understand why I dont see any regrowth yet.

 

 

I wouldn't blame the zinc.

 

Most doctors say regrowth happens 6 to 9 months after the trigger is removed. We just have to wait and see.

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Posted : 06/26/2007 11:27 am

Your first theory is what i was trying to say about dolphs loss, The massive shed syncronises future shedding of hairs, so it may appear as if you are loosing more hair than usual (which you are) but it simply means any normal hairloss is now syncronised instead of being spread out over weeks/months!! So over time you loose the same amount as normal!!

I didn't mean chronic telogen affluvium as i feel if it was that, then it would not have stopped for a month!!

 

I also have something wierd to report, i definenetly have quite a bit of hair growing in, my hair is atually feeling slightly thicker and i can't see my scalp as easily...

I'm still shedding as much as ever, this is all 2 months since i began shedding, three months off tane...

 

Hey Lamarr,

 

Yeah, I'm in the same boat. It feels slightly thicker, and I can't see my scalp as easily. But isn't that confusing? Do you think the hair grows back all at once or in parts?

 

You know, most of the "success stories" I come across are from those who lost hair to Accutane years ago, but are now investingating plain old MPB. From their posts, it appears that people with Accutane hair loss start losing their hair for real - i.e., to MPB - about 4 to 5 years later. This is just a guess, though.

 

 

i don't know if i agree with the MPB thing. a lot of people get TE for a bunch of different reasons. i know in my family my dad is in his mid 50s and has the thickest hair of anyone his age (that's where i get my thickness from) and everyone on my mother's side has thin hair and a full head of hair. (although one of my uncles is starting to bald at 50)

 

i think it's just coincidence and what lamarr said. people that are happy with results have no need or desire to post updates. i know the second i feel my shedding has stopped i'll repost and try to get as far away from anything reminding me of this as i can. ;\

 

also, i don't know if i am even shedding anymore. i read in another thread women that don't wash their hair for a week or so end up shedding a lot in the shower. i do not wash my hair but once a week and comb it occassionally. you can't tell that i am losing hair by looking at my hair, so perhaps it's possible. who knows, i had pretty thick head of hair when i started so maybe it's just taking a while to become noticeable.

 

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Posted : 06/26/2007 12:00 pm

Your first theory is what i was trying to say about dolphs loss, The massive shed syncronises future shedding of hairs, so it may appear as if you are loosing more hair than usual (which you are) but it simply means any normal hairloss is now syncronised instead of being spread out over weeks/months!! So over time you loose the same amount as normal!!

I didn't mean chronic telogen affluvium as i feel if it was that, then it would not have stopped for a month!!

 

I also have something wierd to report, i definenetly have quite a bit of hair growing in, my hair is atually feeling slightly thicker and i can't see my scalp as easily...

I'm still shedding as much as ever, this is all 2 months since i began shedding, three months off tane...

 

Hey Lamarr,

 

Yeah, I'm in the same boat. It feels slightly thicker, and I can't see my scalp as easily. But isn't that confusing? Do you think the hair grows back all at once or in parts?

 

You know, most of the "success stories" I come across are from those who lost hair to Accutane years ago, but are now investingating plain old MPB. From their posts, it appears that people with Accutane hair loss start losing their hair for real - i.e., to MPB - about 4 to 5 years later. This is just a guess, though.

 

 

i don't know if i agree with the MPB thing. a lot of people get TE for a bunch of different reasons. i know in my family my dad is in his mid 50s and has the thickest hair of anyone his age (that's where i get my thickness from) and everyone on my mother's side has thin hair and a full head of hair. (although one of my uncles is starting to bald at 50)

 

i think it's just coincidence and what lamarr said. people that are happy with results have no need or desire to post updates. i know the second i feel my shedding has stopped i'll repost and try to get as far away from anything reminding me of this as i can. ;\

 

also, i don't know if i am even shedding anymore. i read in another thread women that don't wash their hair for a week or so end up shedding a lot in the shower. i do not wash my hair but once a week and comb it occassionally. you can't tell that i am losing hair by looking at my hair, so perhaps it's possible. who knows, i had pretty thick head of hair when i started so maybe it's just taking a while to become noticeable.

 

 

Everything you said is sound, David. You know what's interesting? Women with very thick hair are the most likely to get TE. I wonder if it's the same with men.

 

It really bothers me that I've only shed at the top and around the ears. This nonsense is really bothering me one hell of a lot.

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Posted : 06/26/2007 12:18 pm

my thinnest area seems to be the areas around my head. for intstance, the side that is next to the ears and a little above seems to have thinned out. the top and back seem to be pretty full of hair to the point you can't see my scalp unless you part my hair. even at that point the part is not very big. however, the sides feel thinned. it also seems like the men effected by the hair loss are people with longer lengthed hair. perhaps more men go through hair loss, but do not notice because of how short their hair is?

 

mypoorhair, if i would you i'd be estatic. you still have quite some time before you know for sure that your hair won't grow back. atleast you aren't shedding anymore which is more than a lot of us can say. i know the second i know for sure i'm over and the shedding has stopped i will be dancing in the streets.

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Posted : 06/26/2007 12:22 pm

my thinnest area seems to be the areas around my head. for intstance, the side that is next to the ears and a little above seems to have thinned out. the top and back seem to be pretty full of hair to the point you can't see my scalp unless you part my hair. even at that point the part is not very big. however, the sides feel thinned.

 

mypoorhair, if i would you i'd be estatic. you still have quite some time before you know for sure that your hair won't grow back. atleast you aren't shedding anymore which is more than a lot of us can say. i know the second i know for sure i'm over and the shedding has stopped i will be dancing in the streets.

 

Do you mean that I'll know soon whether or not this is permanent? I agree that this is a good thing. I'm trying to figure out at what month I should give up hope. The sixth? The seventh? The ninth? I think the ninth.

 

Yes, I'm not shedding anymore, but that doesn't cut it for me. I just want my hair back. I really do think, by the way, that only people with super-thick hair get TE. It'd be interesting to find out why.

 

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Posted : 06/26/2007 3:43 pm

my thinnest area seems to be the areas around my head. for intstance, the side that is next to the ears and a little above seems to have thinned out. the top and back seem to be pretty full of hair to the point you can't see my scalp unless you part my hair. even at that point the part is not very big. however, the sides feel thinned.

 

mypoorhair, if i would you i'd be estatic. you still have quite some time before you know for sure that your hair won't grow back. atleast you aren't shedding anymore which is more than a lot of us can say. i know the second i know for sure i'm over and the shedding has stopped i will be dancing in the streets.

 

Do you mean that I'll know soon whether or not this is permanent? I agree that this is a good thing. I'm trying to figure out at what month I should give up hope. The sixth? The seventh? The ninth? I think the ninth.

 

Yes, I'm not shedding anymore, but that doesn't cut it for me. I just want my hair back. I really do think, by the way, that only people with super-thick hair get TE. It'd be interesting to find out why.

 

 

Well i definenetly wouldnt say only people with thick hair...

However i do think our bodies feel we can afford to loose hair, due to the fact we have so much of it to start with!!

 

Unfortunately our hair is one of the least important things we need in terms of survival, hence it being the first thing the body shuts down in times of distress/stress both physical and mental...

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Posted : 06/27/2007 10:32 am

hair loss is worst on the front bang area and temples are completely gone. it is becoming easier and easier to see my scalp through the top of my head. considering propecia soon but am holding out for as long as possible.

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Posted : 06/27/2007 10:55 am

hair loss is worst on the front bang area and temples are completely gone. it is becoming easier and easier to see my scalp through the top of my head. considering propecia soon but am holding out for as long as possible.

 

Interestingly, I've learned - and I'm sure many of you already know this - that TE happens primarily at the temples and front-top of the scalp. This is according to WebMD as well as another reputable source.

 

I have to admit, guys. I don't know anymore. I really do hope that an end to shedding means a resolution of the problem. But I'm not sure. I have another appointment with my derm this Thursday, at which I will ask her a new set of questions, the answers to which I will share with you all.

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Posted : 06/27/2007 11:42 am

It's so strange, if i part my hair anywhere, the line has now become much tighter... I can even part directly down the centre of my head and see these little hairs poping out along the line, my temples are still the worst (along with my side burns) but i can see regrowth there aswell so...

I just wish the shedding would stop, it has been faster than ever the last few days!!

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Posted : 06/27/2007 11:46 am

Just for a bit of info, i can see healthy fully pigmentated, full diameter hairs of about 1/2 an inch long. About 5 of these per square inch? Not massive numbers, but i can also see smaller ones along my hairline, which obviously i wont be able to see else where on my scalp...

David, is this how you see your new regrowth? mypoohair do you see something similar happening? I have been taking so many hair growth supplements though so it's hard to tell if it may be them helping...

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Posted : 06/27/2007 12:25 pm

It's so strange, if i part my hair anywhere, the line has now become much tighter... I can even part directly down the centre of my head and see these little hairs poping out along the line, my temples are still the worst (along with my side burns) but i can see regrowth there aswell so...

I just wish the shedding would stop, it has been faster than ever the last few days!!

 

You bastard! Are you saying you have regrowth? Who cares if you're shedding at this point. The shedding will ultimately stop, especially if it has recently sped up.

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Posted : 06/27/2007 12:30 pm

Yes im certain of it, it's not massive, but i can even see the hairs poping up along a parting anywhere on my head...which i am certain weren't there towards the start as i have been monitering my hair in the same way since the begining...

It is definently a positive thing, all i can say is though i know for a fact regrowth doesn't follow straight after the hair has shed, i think it takes time for that, what determines that time i am unsure....

I wish i had saved the literature that agreed with this point, as it would be able to give you some comfort in knowing you should atleast get some regrowth...

It basically said shedding isn't always instantly followed by regrowth...It was also a pub med type article as my grandad gave me access to his account to access online publishings...I wish i could remember what i typed in to find the article now!!

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Posted : 06/27/2007 12:37 pm

You're done, man. You're done. The shedding will stop soon enough, and you have regrowth. This is amazing.

 

How long are the new hairs?

 

There is a pattern emerging here. People who lose their hair months after they stop Accutane get it back within 6 months. I wonder if in their case the shock involves the sudden removal of Accutane from the body. Interestingly, I lost my hair a day after I skipped my pills.

 

Lamarr, you did it, bro. Or mate. You lucky bastard!

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Posted : 06/27/2007 12:57 pm

Mate i really like the ecouragement but i won't be truely happy until the shedding stops!!

I have just been looking again and in places there are alot of hairs, about 1/2 inch long. I create a parting anywhere on my head, and keep one side of the parting pressed down with the comb and i have these small 1/2 inch normal looking hairs, poping out from amungst the longer hairs, there is probably more than 5 per square inch tbh, alot more when i look, probably more like 5 per square cm at least...

 

To be honest i think my case, so far sounds alot more like gdwrights(sp) he is the one in the marines. He said in months 1-2 he noticed his parting tighten up quite alot, mine has tightened up bang on two months, about 14 weeks post tane. I think he shed for 3.5-4 months, so we shall see. All i know is i won't sod off when it stops. I will still report back and keep checking how you guys are doing!!

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Posted : 06/27/2007 1:02 pm

Mate i really like the ecouragement but i won't be truely happy until the shedding stops!!

I have just been looking again and in places there are alot of hairs, about 1/2 inch long. I create a parting anywhere on my head, and keep one side of the parting pressed down with the comb and i have these small 1/2 inch normal looking hairs, poping out from amungst the longer hairs, there is probably more than 5 per square inch tbh, alot more when i look, probably more like 5 per square cm at least...

 

To be honest i think my case, so far sounds alot more like gdwrights(sp) he is the one in the marines. He said in months 1-2 he noticed his parting tighten up quite alot, mine has tightened up bang on two months, about 14 weeks post tane. I think he shed for 3.5-4 months, so we shall see. All i know is i won't sod off when it stops. I will still report back and keep checking how you guys are doing!!

 

Tiny question for you: how long has it been since the last day of Accutane?

 

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Posted : 06/27/2007 1:55 pm

96 days....exactly

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Posted : 06/27/2007 2:57 pm

i'm awaiting that list andy. lamarr, maybe you already mentioned this but did you have a resceding hairline?

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Posted : 06/27/2007 3:28 pm

Well it's really hard for me to judge, i would say it has gone back evenly throughout my whole hair line, but probably only as much as my whole head. E.g. a 1/2 - 1 cm further due to the diffuse loss of hair. My temples however do feel slightly thinner than the rest of my hair and i would say there is more loss at that location than almost anywhere, other than my sideburns, above my ears is possible the same aswell. My hairloss sounds alot liek davids i think...

 

As mypoohair says though, telogen effluvium, in particular when it is more chronic or massive, often leads to more loss at the temples, even in women... It is my theory that DHT obviously acts more at the temple region, which is not only limited to men as women always have a certain level of it aswell, just much much lower than men. Who's to say that this level isn't high enough in women, to induce a higher level of loss in this area...

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Posted : 06/27/2007 5:24 pm

I'm actually really confused about when I stopped taking accutane. I know I said I've been off for about 4 months but now I think that's completely wrong. I know I stopped in the month after spring break on the 23rd, and I think spring break was in march, so that would mean I stopped april 23rd. or it might have been in february.

 

Actually I just looked through my mail and now I'm sure I stopped april 23rd.

 

By the way lamar do you see any regrowth in the temple region? because that's the region Im most worried about.

 

Any mypoorhair what about the people who started losing hair while on accutane.. :(

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Posted : 06/27/2007 5:34 pm

Yes i do see regrowth in the temple region, what youve gotta remember though is i still wouldn't call it really substancial(sp) it's just pretty noticeable to me, other people can see the hairs all along my hairline aswell though, but im sure if i have some now i should continue to see more, well i hope anyway!!

 

P.s. dolph, you finished at almost exactly the same time as me, so yeah the 23rd (of april) is bang on!! you must of been off accutane about 94 ish days...

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Posted : 06/27/2007 5:36 pm

i haven't really been looking for regrowth as it's hard for me to see, honestly. i darkish hair, but when it's a single strand it's like a strawberry blonde and makes it hard to see small hairs. as well as the fact that i have pretty long hair.

 

i really just want to stop shedding at this point. :( in one of the other hair loss threads someone said they stopped shedding about 5 months post tane. hopefully this is the case for me, because it's been about four and a half months since i went off tane.

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