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(@steve32)

Posted : 07/21/2010 10:49 am

Yeah, you play the waiting game

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(@oli-girl)

Posted : 07/21/2010 2:10 pm

hey guys. i'm fairly new to this forum. i noticed that most of the posts on this thread come from guys. is it less common for women??

 

i just finished a 5-month course of accutane last week. i didn't have hairloss until i started my 5th month. and i lose like handfuls of hair in the shower, as well as when i brush it. i'm having to pick up hair from my bathroom twice a week because the floor gets covered with hair so quickly (before i usually picked up my hair only every 2 weeks). i'm freaking out, guys!!!! i used to have really thick hair.. and now when i put my hair up on a ponytail, i feel the difference! it's ridiculous.

 

does anyone have any advice to at least prevent loss? or promote growth?

 

Do you have hairloss anywhere else? Do you have any other symptoms or just hairloss. Accutane is know to cause Iron defiency and also thier are a few studies that it decrease biotin. I would suggest trying a over the counter iron such as slow Fe and I take my prescription iron pills with b12 and a glass of oj. You need b12, folic acid and vit c to help process the iron. You could also have your ferritin and other iron levels checked.

Some have women have had sucess w/ collegen supplements as accutane is know to damage collegen. If thoose don't work and you have any other symptoms go get thyroid checked.

 

Hope this helps as Accutane can cause chronic TE or Alopecia and well for some the TE is caused by hormonal disrupt, iron and biotin levels.

 

If it is TE give it 8months to 18months, though for some the shedding stops, but not all the hair comes back like before.

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(@gleefulrena)

Posted : 07/21/2010 7:36 pm

hey guys. i'm fairly new to this forum. i noticed that most of the posts on this thread come from guys. is it less common for women??

 

i just finished a 5-month course of accutane last week. i didn't have hairloss until i started my 5th month. and i lose like handfuls of hair in the shower, as well as when i brush it. i'm having to pick up hair from my bathroom twice a week because the floor gets covered with hair so quickly (before i usually picked up my hair only every 2 weeks). i'm freaking out, guys!!!! i used to have really thick hair.. and now when i put my hair up on a ponytail, i feel the difference! it's ridiculous.

 

does anyone have any advice to at least prevent loss? or promote growth?

 

Do you have hairloss anywhere else? Do you have any other symptoms or just hairloss. Accutane is know to cause Iron defiency and also thier are a few studies that it decrease biotin. I would suggest trying a over the counter iron such as slow Fe and I take my prescription iron pills with b12 and a glass of oj. You need b12, folic acid and vit c to help process the iron. You could also have your ferritin and other iron levels checked.

Some have women have had sucess w/ collegen supplements as accutane is know to damage collegen. If thoose don't work and you have any other symptoms go get thyroid checked.

 

Hope this helps as Accutane can cause chronic TE or Alopecia and well for some the TE is caused by hormonal disrupt, iron and biotin levels.

 

If it is TE give it 8months to 18months, though for some the shedding stops, but not all the hair comes back like before.

 

 

 

 

thank you so much. i'll try those things you mentioned. this is probably the worst common side effect for everyone. i guess.. no pain, no gain. ha.

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(@sclippers)

Posted : 07/21/2010 8:07 pm

SClippers, fun fact for you. Before my bout with TE, people compared my looks to that of Christian Bale. I had the flowing type hair he had in American Psycho. I just recognized your profile pic and thought id share. Christian Bale hair I have no more, and I guarantee my looks have gone down atleast 4 points on the 10 point scale because of my shitty ass hair and receding hairline

 

I feel your pain bro :( I went from a social butterfly to a loner who's slowly become an introvert who may or may not have psychosis.

 

My hair looks and feels like shit, almost straw like and my skin looks like shit. I had better skin with acne believe it or not.

 

How Christian Bale looks in my profile pic is how I look and feel. You should watch The Machinist.

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(@texasboy15)

Posted : 07/22/2010 12:05 am

To anyone who has had a scalp biopsy done, what was the procedure (?) like? Also, where is the incision/scar and will it be noticeable by the naked eye?

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(@csmike)

Posted : 07/22/2010 8:51 am

They just take a small 4mm punch sample out of your scalp, the location is determined by your dermatologist, I got mine between the crown and my temple.

 

It's just a tiny scar so it won't be very noticeable. However it's very much worth it to determine what type of hair loss you have.

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(@fred-q)

Posted : 07/22/2010 10:09 am

What would your guys' opinions be of me brushing my hand through my hair when I wake up in the morning and noticing about 20 hairs falling out?

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(@csmike)

Posted : 07/22/2010 12:57 pm

What would your guys' opinions be of me brushing my hand through my hair when I wake up in the morning and noticing about 20 hairs falling out?

 

That happened to me when I was taking accutane. It's likely just TE given the large amount of hair lost at that one time, but you should go to a dermatologist and get tested to be sure.

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(@fred-q)

Posted : 07/22/2010 1:53 pm

What would your guys' opinions be of me brushing my hand through my hair when I wake up in the morning and noticing about 20 hairs falling out?

 

That happened to me when I was taking accutane. It's likely just TE given the large amount of hair lost at that one time, but you should go to a dermatologist and get tested to be sure.

 

Yeah. I'm just finishing up my 2nd month. I have no history of MPB. I talked to my dermatologist at my 1 month check up and expressed my concern. He wasn't completely ignorant, and said that hair loss does occur, but the severity varies. Therefore, he said quote on quote, "if you experience anymore significant shedding, then give me a call". So I'm trying to figure out what significant means. Before he said that, he was talking about the severity of patient's hair thinning varies, and that's why he wants me to wait before I discontinue the drug. I'm confused right now.

 

I've been losing about 20 hairs a day for a couple weeks now. It hasn't really gotten worse, and I can deal with that in order to keep clear skin as I have very, very thick hair to begin with. I just don't want it to get worse.

 

My mom is a nurse and claims that it is normal to lose up to100 hairs a day, most of which is lost in the shower. She says that since I'm only showering a couple times a week now instead of everyday, that I'm noticing my hair fall out when I'm brushing it in the morning.

 

Sigh.....

 

 

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(@max-2)

Posted : 07/24/2010 1:17 am

I do believe that laser treatment will give us benefits. It can be very costly though but it worths the money if it helps even 50%.

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(@max-2)

Posted : 07/24/2010 1:20 am

Anyway, currently I am using a mixtures of Copper peptide, Azelaic acid and Salicylic acid.

 

I think people who use Benovate will be fine so long as they include another treatment that will thicken their scalp at the same time and, that's when laser, copper peptide or even retin-a (can be really harsh) come in.

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(@sclippers)

Posted : 07/24/2010 7:58 am

What laser treatment?

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(@sw-cub)

Posted : 07/31/2010 2:27 pm

I have been reading some comments from people on various sites and I have become very afraid and depressed. I have been off accutane for almost 3.5 years and I still shed (not as much but more than normal) I also lose thin hairs which is really scary. My hair is still thick throughout which is surprising since I lose a lot of thin hairs. I have been reading comments of people who have been losing hair for 10 years plus. This makes me really depressed and I'm starting to lose hope since I have been shedding for a while now. I've read about people who are unnaturally losing their hair in their 30's and many say that they took accutane when they were younger and they are curious if it could be the culprit. I am extremely depressed because I have to live each day wondering if I am doomed, and I have to live every day with the regret of taking this drug.

 

One thing that really needs to be done is a study of people of took accutane 10 years ago or longer. Then we could now exactly how many are dealing with permanent hair loss. We could also find out of the people of lost hair, how many actually recovered, and how long it took.

 

I have read these stories of people dealing with permanent hair loss and it horrifies me. I can't find any concrete examples of people who have been dealing with hair loss as long as I have and have a happy recovery story.

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(@accutanegavemeeczema)

Posted : 08/03/2010 7:21 pm

I have been reading some comments from people on various sites and I have become very afraid and depressed. I have been off accutane for almost 3.5 years and I still shed (not as much but more than normal) I also lose thin hairs which is really scary. My hair is still thick throughout which is surprising since I lose a lot of thin hairs. I have been reading comments of people who have been losing hair for 10 years plus. This makes me really depressed and I'm starting to lose hope since I have been shedding for a while now. I've read about people who are unnaturally losing their hair in their 30's and many say that they took accutane when they were younger and they are curious if it could be the culprit. I am extremely depressed because I have to live each day wondering if I am doomed, and I have to live every day with the regret of taking this drug.

 

One thing that really needs to be done is a study of people of took accutane 10 years ago or longer. Then we could now exactly how many are dealing with permanent hair loss. We could also find out of the people of lost hair, how many actually recovered, and how long it took.

 

I have read these stories of people dealing with permanent hair loss and it horrifies me. I can't find any concrete examples of people who have been dealing with hair loss as long as I have and have a happy recovery story.

 

Hate to say it but I think I'm in the same boat as you. My hairline keeps looking shittier and thinner. Depressing.

 

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(@rentstuff)

Posted : 08/03/2010 10:07 pm

I also feel depressed but instead of WHINING please HELP ME DO RESEARCH ON PUBMED! Learn about the SCIENCE as to WHY Accutane triggered hair loss SO WE CAN REVERSE IT.

 

 

 

 

OK I just bought more carnitine tartrate powder and ive been taking the new batch and looks like i kinda od'd a bit coz i felt weak, prolly coz i was also not taking enough carbs.

 

In the mean time, I'll apply it on my scalp and take it orally (smaller dose this time) concurrently and see how it goes.

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(@fred-q)

Posted : 08/04/2010 6:53 am

From what I've researched, Accutane sends your body into a shock (research TE) so you no longer grow new hairs.

 

This shock is regulated by your body, and can last for however long your body wants it to even if all traces of isotrentinoin are out of your body.

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(@sclippers)

Posted : 08/04/2010 6:59 am

That meaning your hair just continues to die?! :(

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(@oli-girl)

Posted : 08/04/2010 8:17 am

Volcano3453- Did you ever email Lamarr1986???? Also have you seen a doc about your hair, I couldn't remember????

 

Accutane cause either TE (sometimes persitant) Alopecia and if you have a hx of MPB in the family it can speed up the process. Don't foreget too that some suffer from autoimmune/inflamation problems from accutane and hormonal issues which cause hairloss.

 

I advise some of you to read through Max's and Lamarr's post some of thier information and suggestions can help you....

 

Oh and here's a link to max's board ( a diff max then on here) about hairloss. Though I don't blame him he hasn't been on his board in a long time, it be nice to clean up some of the spammers on there.

http://max001.proboards.com/index.cgi?boar...y&thread=73

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(@fred-q)

Posted : 08/04/2010 2:31 pm

That meaning your hair just continues to die?! :(

No. Accutane places a tremendous amount of stress on our bodies. To cope with this stress, one's body diverts its energy from places of little importance (hair) to other areas of high importance to deal with this stress.

 

So your body stops supplying energy to the hair growing phase known as your anagen phase which is responsible for growing new hair. Your hair follicle is not killed, nor is your hair dying.

 

It should eventually correct itself, but it could take years after your last pill.

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(@accutanegavemeeczema)

Posted : 08/04/2010 7:11 pm

oli girl said:
Volcano3453- Did you ever email Lamarr1986???? Also have you seen a doc about your hair, I couldn't remember????

Accutane cause either TE (sometimes persitant) Alopecia and if you have a hx of MPB in the family it can speed up the process. Don't foreget too that some suffer from autoimmune/inflamation problems from accutane and hormonal issues which cause hairloss.

I advise some of you to read through Max's and Lamarr's post some of thier information and suggestions can help you....

Oh and here's a link to max's board ( a diff max then on here) about hairloss. Though I don't blame him he hasn't been on his board in a long time, it be nice to clean up some of the spammers on there.

http://max001.proboards.com/index.cgi?boar...y&thread=73

yes I talked to lamarr a while back. I haven't seen the doc specifically about my hair, or at least get any tests done about it. Talked to my derm multiple times, but she is useless.

anyway, I am really starting to get a sort of loss right around the widows peak like the guy in this photo

[Edited link out] I don't know if it's normal at all, but I sure don't think so based on the volume lost at my hairline/

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(@shoes)

Posted : 08/05/2010 12:41 pm

Hey guys, try this!

 

2x 500mg L-Methionine

2x 500mg L-Cysteine

1x 1000mg L-Carnitine

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(@rentstuff)

Posted : 08/06/2010 12:16 am

*** BREAKING NEWS BREAKING NEWS *** :cry::shock: 😯 :shock:

I have just found what may cause and REVERSE the Accutane HAIR LOSS!!! READ CAREFULLY, I EXPLAINED IN SIMPLE ENGLISH.

1. ISOTRETINOIN (aka, 13-cis-retinoic acid & brand name is "Accutane", etc.) is anti-cancer and thus is used as a chemo drug. (Take note that most chemo drugs cause hair loss, ok proceed.)

2. Killing cancer can be done in many ways. With Isotretinoin, one of its "action mechanisms" of killing cancer is by increasing the gene expression (or the capability of using DNA to make complex RNA/protein) of a certain enzyme called CASPASE 3

3. If you INCREASE CASPASE 3 gene expression, this may lead to APOPTOSIS ("programmed cell death").

4. Apoptosis = KILLING OF CELLS, which is how the HAIR FOLLICLES are TEMPORARILY affected and "KILLED" as well.

5. :clap:EVIDENCE : "13-cis-retinoic acid (isotretinoin) treatment also... upregulated (meaning it increased) p53 and caspase-3 gene expression in B16F-10 melanoma cells." - from http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18652567 13-cis-retinoic acid induces apoptosis by modulating caspase-3, bcl-2, and p53 gene expression and regulates the activation of transcription factors in B16F-10 melanoma cells.

6. SO RECAP: Isotretinoin kills cancer cells by increasing CASPASE 3 gene expression which is INVOLVED IN HAIR LOSS! The problem with apoptosis or "cell death" is that it doesn't necessarily selectively kill only cancer cells, that's why hair is affected. It's not that we are "stressed out" like the above poster was saying.

SOLUTION:

German Study (PDF file) [Edited link out]

PubMed abstract: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17927577

L-carnitine-L-tartrate promotes human hair growth in vitro

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"caspase 3 and 7, which are known to initiate apoptosis, are DOWN REGULATED (DECREASED!!) at day 2 and day 4 after treatment of HAIR FOLLICLES (HFs) with CARNITINE TARTRATE (CT) compared with vehicle-treated control indicating that CT has an immediate protective effect on HFs to undergo programmed cell death."

ACCUTANE = INCREASES CASPASE 3 = KILLS CELLS = HAIR LOSS

CARNITINE = DECREASES CASPASE 3 = HAIR GROWTH !!!!!!!

GET SOME CARNITINE TARTRATE POWDER NOW (FAQ: No, ACETYL Carnitine WILL NOT WORK and may actually cause hair loss!!!) BEFORE I BUY THEM ALL IM SO HAPPY there is hope! http://www.iherb.com/Now-Foods-L-Carnitine...12252?&at=0

SO NOW THATS WHY I WAS GROWING HAIR IT REALLY HAS BEEN PROVEN BY SCIENCE WOW.

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Ask me if you got confused. Let's HELP EACH OTHER OUT!

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(@dbstar)

Posted : 08/06/2010 9:44 am

I think it is good that you post this... I definitely feel like there are alot of people on here attributing a variety of health problems they are experiencing to their accutane experience without any real medical knowledge. There have been many medical studies done in which, even though the side effects were often difficult during the course, virtually all patients within 2 months will be free of these side effects.

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(@accutanegavemeeczema)

Posted : 08/06/2010 6:28 pm

Very interesting. Is getting L-Carnitine something I could grab at Walgreens for pretty cheap?

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(@rentstuff)

Posted : 08/06/2010 6:40 pm

Very interesting. Is getting L-Carnitine something I could grab at Walgreens for pretty cheap?

 

hi I'm not too sure about Walgreens. YOu might want to call your local branch first. Just make sure it's Carnitine Tartrate or labels like "Carnitine (as Carnitine Tartrate)"

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