12 hours ago, Optimumcure said:

Whoa take it easy. Not sure what someone would gain out of lying about having this condition so im sure his truthful.

Anyways for me im in limbo at the moment. I feel as if lamasil is clearing the fungus side of things but it has some really pore clogging ingredients so i seem to be breaking out.

So yeah not much of an update from me I'll come back later this week when i find out my blood test results.

But yeah lets keep our heads up and own beat this.

How's the e45 shampoo working for you? Mine will arrive next week.

Used e45 over the weekend. Seems to have tamed things abit but it has also irritating my skin. I think it has something to do with the sulphates. My skin is really weak and dry but oily. I wish there was some kind of skin reboot i could do. Do you guys have any suggestions on what cleansers work well. As i mentioned everything is irritating right now and im kinda given up on the topicals. Just going to wait until i move out in a few months and really change to clean af diet and exercise every day. Hopefully you guys have had more success.

Hi,so I will be very quick to explain how my battle with acne evolves.I work in a company that installs solar panels all over France, I've had office work. A lot of people went on vacation and there is no one else to do physical work with the facility, so I offered myself for some extra money, and you have to move very fast.
1-so i started to do some diet,only garlic and water and 2 spoons of raw apple vinegar in a glass of water for 5 days that it,
2-Without lotion without special soaps salicylic acid and other nonsense, only water in the morning and evening
3-I left a beard longer some 5 cm so i do not stress,no stress, no stress.... me anymore if I see something or not(acne)
4-At the moment eat only fruits and vegetables without sugar salted milk eggs ........and I keep in every meal to add garlic.
My skin has been cleansed until now, only one has gone out on my chin today.I finally came to the conclusion that diet does not play a big role in my situation, but I found that due to stress and little physical work I started to have this acne.Will you ask me why diet does not play a big part in my situation? Because it's not the first time I keep it and no results.Yes i have something else in the first 2 weeks i lost 10kg. I just did not belive until i changed a few scales.the only thing i change in my previous diet is garlic and apple vinegar.
So for now this is my story

Thanks for the update. So your saying exercise and less stress has kept you clear. You could be onto something as im also an office worker and sometimes do as little as 5min walking a day because im tied to the desk pretty much.

For the moment this is just a theory,but yes i think so.time will show.
Cheers

hi guys, I just updated the original thread ...please take a look

Hi everyone,

Updates from me - still waiting for my E45 shampoo as I suspect we have a case of fungal related acne. Ok, something exciting that I found through reddit is this link right here
https://simpleskincarescience.com/pityrosporum-folliculitis-treatment-malassezia-cure/

This guy went through the exact same acne as us but realized its fungal and cleared it up. He has done TONS of research on this type of folliculitis and has a complete list and explanation of products that work and do not work.

Based on what he is saying and on other threads I have come across, here is what I have found -

This type of acne is not bacterial. It is fungal and caused by the fungiMalasezzia resulting in fungal folliculitis. Overuse of antibiotics can cause this (which is what happened to me) and so can other factors such as climate etc. Your first step is to eliminate this fungi's dominance on your face through an antifungal such as Climbazole based shampoo, Nizoral or Ketacanzole cream/shampoo. Now, while one antifungal might not work, there is a possibility that another one could. So don't give up on it and try out a 2 or 3 different antifungals for a minimum of 3 weeks. At the same time, make sure other products you use are not worsening your situation as this fungus feeds and grows on a lot of things we put on our face especially MOST moisturizers. People really recommend the Cerave moisturizer as this fungus cannot feed on it t grow. Or using MCT oil. Again, read the attached link and it will explain everything. Hope this helps.

1 hour ago, rocketboysf said:

hi guys, I just updated the original thread ...please take a look

Rocketboysf, good to see you're back. You mentioned you get scalp acne issues. I get that too! BUT one thing I found out through my research was that SCALP ACNE DOES NOT EXIST. It is actually a type of folliculitis which is fungal and caused my Malassezia so I am pretty sure your case is fungal too. Read my post above ESPECIALLY the attached link!

Wheat bread does not break me out although fruits and dairy do!

Good to see you back rocketboy. Little update from me. Being trying to workout lately cant say if its really helping or not yet, at least its giving me time away from thinking about it.

it's great to see such good communication between us all lets try and keep it up

hi to all....and respect for sharing the story

Hello guys. I am from INDIA.

I am also facing this issue since past 3 years.

I am taking Acuclav tablets an antibiotic as and when I want to get rid of this shit but no permanent cure.

Pls keep on posting as and when u get some good remedies.

Saw this forum today. Now I will try n post many things m trying. May b it might help someone.

As of now many things tried many doctor visited but not got the desired result.

Will start trying many suggestions posted above. Thanks alot guys. Keep doing the nice work. Me too will start posting soon.

Also guys if you can post some long term side effects of having this antibiotics will help...!!!

Looking for some rpys...

Wow more and more people coming forward. Could we start a poll here with ages?

So after dealing 15 years with this shit, this is what helped me:

- 100% dairy/lactose free diet - the moment (next day actually) I eat something with lactose in it I have 10 new pustules that itch like hell
- DHT blockers / androgen receptor blockers (silymarin (milk thistle), green tea extract, saw palmetto - all of them work separately. Just be cautious sometime they can give you depression due to androgen blocking)

and another solution that also work separately (u don't have to do the things mentioned before)
- ketogenic diet - this works 100% but is extremely hard to do

good luck with this shit!

one additional question: anyone here tried accutane what was the result?

8 hours ago, donkey00 said:

So after dealing 15 years with this shit, this is what helped me:

- 100% dairy/lactose free diet - the moment (next day actually) I eat something with lactose in it I have 10 new pustules that itch like hell
- DHT blockers / androgen receptor blockers (silymarin (milk thistle), green tea extract, saw palmetto - all of them work separately. Just be cautious sometime they can give you depression due to androgen blocking)

and another solution that also work separately (u don't have to do the things mentioned before)
- ketogenic diet - this works 100% but is extremely hard to do

good luck with this shit!

one additional question: anyone here tried accutane what was the result?

Diet works for me too but I'm tired of controlling this through diet. Accutane works but comes back again, sometimes worse.

With regards to dairy, did you try something else like goat cheese etc? Does sugar break you out too?

Yeah it has to be something internal going on. I got my blood tests done all spot on. I went for a few long bike ride as i thought it was helping. Than bam all of a sudden the itch started and brang it on again. Im thinking i over did it and was overtired. So im gonna do it in moderation from now. Silverlight how was your e45. Work out better for you?. Inside my nose hurts like crazy any ideas if its related i some way. Good luck guys

On 8/1/2017 at 10:58 AM, donkey00 said:

So after dealing 15 years with this shit, this is what helped me:

- 100% dairy/lactose free diet - the moment (next day actually) I eat something with lactose in it I have 10 new pustules that itch like hell
- DHT blockers / androgen receptor blockers (silymarin (milk thistle), green tea extract, saw palmetto - all of them work separately. Just be cautious sometime they can give you depression due to androgen blocking)

and another solution that also work separately (u don't have to do the things mentioned before)
- ketogenic diet - this works 100% but is extremely hard to do

good luck with this shit!

one additional question: anyone here tried accutane what was the result?

I can confirm that a ketogenic diet does help as well, but yes it is very hard to do! So far cutting out all dairy, including eggs, has helped quite a bit.

Accutane does work, but for me it was also the thing that started this whole mess in the first place.

Cheers,

Canuckle. Are u the sane guy on the rosecea forum?. How is your seb derm going. I cant figure mine out i used e45 and node p. Both dry me out hardcore and irritate my skin. Do you have any advice on how to help without topicals?

14 hours ago, Optimumcure said:

Canuckle. Are u the sane guy on the rosecea forum?. How is your seb derm going. I cant figure mine out i used e45 and node p. Both dry me out hardcore and irritate my skin. Do you have any advice on how to help without topicals?

Yes that is me. My seb derm and overall skin is quite good right now, I have minimal flaking around my mouth only. I haven't had a red skin flare up in a very very long time!

Both E45 and NodeP were quite gentle for my skin, I was using it once at night. Now I only use an anti-fungal wash once per week. I'd suggest only using it every other night if it's too drying and making sure you moisturize properly (non malassezia feeding moisturizer).

Without topicals.....that'd be tough as you need something to wash the daily sebum (which feed malassezia) and to keep your skin clean. You could try washing with water only in the morning or using a honey mask. I'd suggest trying something that you think would work and giving it a good 4-6 weeks. Everyone's skin is different.

Today I tried using a purple/brown sharpie on a small white pustule on my chin (as recommended by rocketboysf) and it works quite well! You can see in the photo that it conceals the white pus decently. I think this will be a great way to alleviate some of the anxiety that I deal with from these pustules. 

I've also purchased a concealer makeup pen and I will keep everyone posted on the results. Next month I will try VSL3 probiotic (450 billion CU) to see if that has any affect as well.

Cheers,

On 8/10/2017 at 6:32 AM, Canucklehead12 said:

Yes that is me. My seb derm and overall skin is quite good right now, I have minimal flaking around my mouth only. I haven't had a red skin flare up in a very very long time!

Both E45 and NodeP were quite gentle for my skin, I was using it once at night. Now I only use an anti-fungal wash once per week. I'd suggest only using it every other night if it's too drying and making sure you moisturize properly (non malassezia feeding moisturizer).

Without topicals.....that'd be tough as you need something to wash the daily sebum (which feed malassezia) and to keep your skin clean. You could try washing with water only in the morning or using a honey mask. I'd suggest trying something that you think would work and giving it a good 4-6 weeks. Everyone's skin is different.

Today I tried using a purple/brown sharpie on a small white pustule on my chin (as recommended by rocketboysf) and it works quite well! You can see in the photo that it conceals the white pus decently. I think this will be a great way to alleviate some of the anxiety that I deal with from these pustules. 

I've also purchased a concealer makeup pen and I will keep everyone posted on the results. Next month I will try VSL3 probiotic (450 billion CU) to see if that has any affect as well.

Cheers,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Just make sure the concealer you use does not have food grade ingredients for the fungi. I use the following - L'Oreal Paris Cosmetics Infallible Pro-Matte Foundation Makeup

Canuckle, its great to see you got rid of most of your pustules. I think almost all of us are primarily concerned with the pustules, and then the seb derm. Totally agree with the anxiety bit, but I'd take your almost 100% clear face anyday over what I had for past few months.

Your current regimen says Cerave Lotion night and day. Do you use the lotion or the cream? The lotion apparently contains ingredients that malasezzia can feed on. 

Diet has always worked for me for the pustules if I avoid dairy and sugar completely. But I don't easily gain weight and beig on this diet made me lose 15lbs so I tend to cheat sometimes. I just started using Nizoral 6 days ago along with Cerave moisturizing cream, sulfur mask overnight on my mouth area and Head and shoulders in the morning as a wash. My skin has started to clear up all of a sudden but I am still getting tiny pustule here and there which fade away in a day. Still to early to tell if the products are working or if I am just going through a clear face phase which will last for 4 5 days before another breakout lol this stuff can get so exhausting

Thanks guys for the info. Canucks what is your current reigiem? Also which moisturizer do you use? Creave pm? Im really hesitant to try moisturizers as my skin is oily af right now even 2hrs after cleaning it.

I use Cerave moisturizing lotion, which is fine for malassezia (search Tom Busby's posts). I was using Cerave PM before, but I liked the lotion better as it doesn't leave as much of a shine and it's cheaper.

AM:
Wash with Spectro Gel for blemish prone skin
Moisturize with Cerave Moisturizing Lotion

PM:
Wash with Spectro Gel for blemish prone skin
Apply 2.5% BP from Acne.org
Moisturize with Cerave Moisturizing Lotion

Once a week (Sunday night usually):
Wash with NodeP - leaving on for a few minutes
Apply 2.5% BP from Acne.org
Moisturize with Cerave Moisturizing Lotion

I may start using a bit of salicylic acid after shaving, but have yet to try it.

Cheers,

11 hours ago, Canucklehead12 said:

I use Cerave moisturizing lotion, which is fine for malassezia (search Tom Busby's posts). I was using Cerave PM before, but I liked the lotion better as it doesn't leave as much of a shine and it's cheaper.

AM:
Wash with Spectro Gel for blemish prone skin
Moisturize with Cerave Moisturizing Lotion

PM:
Wash with Spectro Gel for blemish prone skin
Apply 2.5% BP from Acne.org
Moisturize with Cerave Moisturizing Lotion

Once a week (Sunday night usually):
Wash with NodeP - leaving on for a few minutes
Apply 2.5% BP from Acne.org
Moisturize with Cerave Moisturizing Lotion

I may start using a bit of salicylic acid after shaving, but have yet to try it.

Cheers,

Cerave Lotion and PM contain an isostearic acid ester which let's malassezia grow. Here is what I found on one of the forums from a person who got rid of his malassezia -

"

I have since learned that this stupid ass yeast also feeds on esters and polysorbates. This rules out CeraVe PM and Lotion.

For anyone wondering https://assoc-redirect.amazon.com/g/r/https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001V9SXXU/ref=as_at/?imprToken=mlo1BDLz-6-cu1fcTzrwkQ&slotNum=4&ie=UTF8&tag=ceravecream-20&camp=1789&creative=9325&linkCode=w61&creativeASIN=B001V9SXXU&linkId=a570672a31437937d37db6037da475c d" rel="external nofollow" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;background:transparent;font-size:18px;vertical-align:baseline;text-decoration:none">CeraVe Moisturizing Cream,https://assoc-redirect.amazon.com/g/r/https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B016F3MESG/ref=as_at/?imprToken=mlo1BDLz-6-cu1fcTzrwkQ&slotNum=5&ie=UTF8&tag=ceravecream-20&camp=1789&creative=9325&linkCode=w61&creativeASIN=B016F3MESG&linkId=13247ef2c78fc205bfd1c016073a4fc 3" rel="external nofollow" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;background:transparent;font-size:18px;vertical-align:baseline;text-decoration:none">CeraVe Healing Ointment, andhttps://assoc-redirect.amazon.com/g/r/https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00F97FHAW/ref=as_at/?imprToken=mlo1BDLz-6-cu1fcTzrwkQ&slotNum=6&ie=UTF8&tag=ceravecream-20&camp=1789&creative=9325&linkCode=w61&creativeASIN=B00F97FHAW&linkId=d6e904db3d735593b642517dca80432 b" rel="external nofollow" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;background:transparent;font-size:18px;vertical-align:baseline;text-decoration:none">CeraVe AMare the only compatible productsformalassezia out of the entire CeraVe line. Everything else including their cleansers, serums, lotions etc. might give you trouble since they have ingredients that are food grade for the yeast."

6 hours ago, silverlight22 said:

Cerave Lotion and PM contain an isostearic acid ester which let's malassezia grow. Here is what I found on one of the forums from a person who got rid of his malassezia -

"

I have since learned that this stupid ass yeast also feeds on esters and polysorbates. This rules out CeraVe PM and Lotion.

For anyone wondering https://assoc-redirect.amazon.com/g/r/https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001V9SXXU/ref=as_at/?imprToken=mlo1BDLz-6-cu1fcTzrwkQ&slotNum=4&ie=UTF8&tag=ceravecream-20&camp=1789&creative=9325&linkCode=w61&creativeASIN=B001V9SXXU&linkId=a570672a31437937d37db6037da475c d" rel="external nofollow" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;background:transparent;font-size:18px;vertical-align:baseline;text-decoration:none">CeraVe Moisturizing Cream,https://assoc-redirect.amazon.com/g/r/https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B016F3MESG/ref=as_at/?imprToken=mlo1BDLz-6-cu1fcTzrwkQ&slotNum=5&ie=UTF8&tag=ceravecream-20&camp=1789&creative=9325&linkCode=w61&creativeASIN=B016F3MESG&linkId=13247ef2c78fc205bfd1c016073a4fc 3" rel="external nofollow" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;background:transparent;font-size:18px;vertical-align:baseline;text-decoration:none">CeraVe Healing Ointment, andhttps://assoc-redirect.amazon.com/g/r/https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00F97FHAW/ref=as_at/?imprToken=mlo1BDLz-6-cu1fcTzrwkQ&slotNum=6&ie=UTF8&tag=ceravecream-20&camp=1789&creative=9325&linkCode=w61&creativeASIN=B00F97FHAW&linkId=d6e904db3d735593b642517dca80432 b" rel="external nofollow" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;background:transparent;font-size:18px;vertical-align:baseline;text-decoration:none">CeraVe AMare the only compatible productsformalassezia out of the entire CeraVe line. Everything else including their cleansers, serums, lotions etc. might give you trouble since they have ingredients that are food grade for the yeast.

I think you're looking too far into this. You don't know exact percentages of ingredients, but I can bet that the polysorbate is in very low concentration. My skin has worked well on Cerave lotion and continues to do so, but really you'd need to test it out for yourself.

Cerave AM and moisturizing cream broke me out....so I won't touch those again. I'm going to stick with what works.

Cheers,

Canucks is caprylic/capric triglyceride an oil? Seems to be third ingredient on the creave moisturizer. Are there some oils that do feed this is cap triglycerides one?

Caprylic/capric triglyceride is essential MCT oil.

MCT oil is composed only of C8 and C10 oils. Malassezia yeast consume oil between C10 and C24, so based on Tom Busby's recommendation, MCT oil is not "food grade" for malassezia and is fine.