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Hey Guys,
I posted here a while ago. At the time I was dealing with a severebreakout that was treated successfully with BP (2.5%). Unfortunately the acne's returned. While I'm disappointed I'm not surprised as many folk here had already highlighted how this was not a long term fix.
I've read everything up until my last post and I see that accutane is proving successful for a number of you. After a quick Google I came across some pretty unsettling reports of accutane causing episodes of psychosis/depression... I'm not sure I want to risk such adverse effects for the sake of clear skin. If any of you have noticed any changes to your mental health I would love to hear about it.
In the meantime I will resumemy skincare routine of looking in the mirror and sighing heavily.
13 hours ago, Thisisused said:Hey Guys,
I posted here a while ago. At the time I was dealing with a severebreakout that was treated successfully with BP (2.5%). Unfortunately the acne's returned. While I'm disappointed I'm not surprised as many folk here had already highlighted how this was not a long term fix.
I've read everything up until my last post and I see that accutane is proving successful for a number of you. After a quick Google I came across some pretty unsettling reports of accutane causing episodes of psychosis/depression... I'm not sure I want to risk such adverse effects for the sake of clear skin. If any of you have noticed any changes to your mental health I would love to hear about it.
In the meantime I will resumemy skincare routine of looking in the mirror and sighing heavily.
Don't go for accutane, just like BP, accutane too is a temporary fix & moreover it's not worth the risk. This condition is a result of post antibiotic gut microbiota dysbiosis. If u manage to get it back to normal, this condition will resolve automatically.
Great if probiotics work for you. I've yet to find one that works, they often make things worse so please keep us updated.
Accutane should be avoided. Concerns over mental health, but also have read of relapses with the skin... so you lose both ways. Same for retinoids (retin-a, differin, etc.)... exfoliating... benzoyl peroxide - none of these seem long term solutions.
Regarding histamine... this appears to be a common theme with perioral dermatitis. I am currently looking into flavanols / flavanoids which also have an anti-inflammatory effect but also I belive anti-histamine. Quercetin supplement is also cited which is a flavanoid, but only a single type. Pure cocoa powder (without milk, sugar or salt additives) contain massive amounts of various flavanols. Downside is high levels of cadmium and lead. Nickle present will also worsen PD. Cocoavia (produced by Mars) has concentrated flavanols without contaminents, but very expensive and not sold in the EU (it was until this year). They tell me this will change next year. You could also try consuming 90%+ dark chocolate, but this seems less effective than cocoa powder.
With a good diet and Lyonsleaf calendula cream my condition is good (so I'm posting less), but I feel further improvement can be made. I have stopped using Gladskin gel. It didn't make matters worse, but the cost + palava of going to the fridge was too much hassle, and I think the benefit was questionable. Your mileage will vary.
When I consume cocoa powder my skin seems more tolerant of diet and scar healing has increased. That feeling of minor pustules threatening to appear has gone (this must be the anti-inflammatory effect). It feels like a mild antibiotic, but I'm reluctant to promote it too much as cures are often shot down in flames a fortnight later. I have managed to import some Cocoavia into the UK so will see if it is effective. It also has other health benefits. But will try the Quercetin supplement before then (mindful that a wayward Christmas diet beckons). Quercetin has been confirmed to help some perioral dermatitis suffers but cocoa powder not, possibly because most sufferers experience of chocolate contains sugar as well as nickle contamination - all red flags.
Again, one persons cure will not fit everybody - something which becomes more apparent the more you look into perioral dermatitis and it's cousins such as rosacea or seborrheic dermatits. This is hard to swallow as we automatically assume we have a different condition to another sufferer. You almost certainly don't have acne. Keeping a record and spreadsheet is the best thing you can do... I've learnt more in the past year than the previous 15 taking this approach. Testing, record keeping and evaluation is your way forward.
On 12/19/2019 at 5:32 PM, acnocalypse said:Great if probiotics work for you. I've yet to find one that works, they often make things worse so please keep us updated.
Accutane should be avoided. Concerns over mental health, but also have read of relapses with the skin... so you lose both ways. Same for retinoids (retin-a, differin, etc.)... exfoliating... benzoyl peroxide - none of these seem long term solutions.
Regarding histamine... this appears to be a common theme with perioral dermatitis. I am currently looking into flavanols / flavanoids which also have an anti-inflammatory effect but also I belive anti-histamine. Quercetin supplement is also cited which is a flavanoid, but only a single type. Pure cocoa powder (without milk, sugar or salt additives) contain massive amounts of various flavanols. Downside is high levels of cadmium and lead. Nickle present will also worsen PD. Cocoavia (produced by Mars) has concentrated flavanols without contaminents, but very expensive and not sold in the EU (it was until this year). They tell me this will change next year. You could also try consuming 90%+ dark chocolate, but this seems less effective than cocoa powder.
With a good diet and Lyonsleaf calendula cream my condition is good (so I'm posting less), but I feel further improvement can be made. I have stopped using Gladskin gel. It didn't make matters worse, but the cost + palava of going to the fridge was too much hassle, and I think the benefit was questionable. Your mileage will vary.
When I consume cocoa powder my skin seems more tolerant of diet and scar healing has increased. That feeling of minor pustules threatening to appear has gone (this must be the anti-inflammatory effect). It feels like a mild antibiotic, but I'm reluctant to promote it too much as cures are often shot down in flames a fortnight later. I have managed to import some Cocoavia into the UK so will see if it is effective. It also has other health benefits. But will try the Quercetin supplement before then (mindful that a wayward Christmas diet beckons). Quercetin has been confirmed to help some perioral dermatitis suffers but cocoa powder not, possibly because most sufferers experience of chocolate contains sugar as well as nickle contamination - all red flags.
Again, one persons cure will not fit everybody - something which becomes more apparent the more you look into perioral dermatitis and it's cousins such as rosacea or seborrheic dermatits. This is hard to swallow as we automatically assume we have a different condition to another sufferer. You almost certainly don't have acne. Keeping a record and spreadsheet is the best thing you can do... I've learnt more in the past year than the previous 15 taking this approach. Testing, record keeping and evaluation is your way forward.
It sounds like you are monitoring and adjusting everything pretty well, much better than I am anyway. I have a pretty fussy toddler and I'm also trying to gain some weight at the moment which is making adjustments to my diet difficult. Although I have cut out caffeine completley and this seems to have made a positive impact. My spots are still as frequent, however the amount of pus inside is significantly less. I'm happy with this for the time being.
I'm going to be trying a 7 day water fast in the new year. I believe this conditionis related to use of antibiotics and the subsequent gut imbalance it causes. I've read that water fasting flushes you out and gives your gut a chance to rebalance itself.
I know that bad diet over the christmas period is already making my skin worse.
On 12/23/2019 at 2:44 PM, FrancisG said:I'm going to be trying a 7 day water fast in the new year. I believe this conditionis related to use of antibiotics and the subsequent gut imbalance it causes. I've read that water fasting flushes you out and gives your gut a chance to rebalance itself.
I know that bad diet over the christmas period is already making my skin worse.
Really interested to hear about the results. Keep us posted! I'm guessing this means you're going to not eat for 7 days? Sounds tough.
Correct. I've done 1 day fasts in the past but this will be something else for sure. Even if it doesn't 'fix' me, it should give me some insight into how connected this is to the gut, as if I see improvements over the week and afterwards then that has to be proof that the two are connected.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6630018/#!po=3.33333
Guys read this !!! It's might be helpful ! Pustules might be because of demodex
On 1/13/2020 at 8:56 AM, bachoy97 said:https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6630018/#!po=3.33333
Guys read this !!! It's might be helpful ! Pustules might be because of demodex
This is something else.
Had a stool and blood samples done recently, results came back normal. Still caffeine free and have been using azalic acid cream with no success (yet).
Going to try cut down on dairy again...
Anybody else sffer from heartburn? I've had it really bad my entire life. Ive been taking Nexium for it, I wonder if it's making my breakout worse.
I think it's some kind of fungal acne, I have exactly the same problem. White pimples on my chin, near my nose. They seem to flare up when I eat too much sugar, carbohydrates in general. I'm pretty sure it's related to the intestines or a compromised moisture barrier.
Has anyone been able to control this problem on this forum? At the moment I don't use anything, not even a moisturizer.
Any advice is welcome.
