Hi guys, struggling with the same problem, and also had candida for a few years, which came back as well.

Is anyone here picking their nose by any chance ? I had staph aureus in my nose after a test and used mupirocin cream, but without any clear effect. I've been picking my nose ever since I was a kid, and I m trying to figure out if it's related to this cancerous disease.

I don't know what triggered this infection. Was it when I got candida ? Or when I started using antibiotics and disturbed my gut flora. Do you remember what caused it to appear in your case ? in what circumstances

Outbreaks of candida are caused by taking oral antibiotics. Buy some clotrimazole cream and apply it to the affected areas of your skin to control candida.

Also wash affected areas of skin (broken skin) in chlorhexadine (sold as hibiclens in the US) to stop secondary bacterial (staph) infections.

ALWAYS wash your hands in antibacterial hand wash (and dry on a clean towel) twice before touching your skin. And NEVER EVER touch your nose and then touch your skin.

Anyone who touches their nose and then touches broken areas of skin will get a staph infection. Practice extreme hygiene. Wash towels etc. regularly. Use a special towel, or disposable paper towels, to dry any broken areas of skin.

Get back to me if you want more information about controlling skin candida.

On 4/28/2019 at 2:58 PM, maverickk21 said:

Hi guys, struggling with the same problem, and also had candida for a few years, which came back as well.

Is anyone here picking their nose by any chance ? I had staph aureus in my nose after a test and used mupirocin cream, but without any clear effect. I've been picking my nose ever since I was a kid, and I m trying to figure out if it's related to this cancerous disease.

I don't know what triggered this infection. Was it when I got candida ? Or when I started using antibiotics and disturbed my gut flora. Do you remember what caused it to appear in your case ? in what circumstances

For me it came after I shaved when my jawline still had acne. To stop it, I had to go on antibiotic(clindamycin)which kept it at bay for 4-5 months the second course of the same antibiotic (clindamycin) failed to control it and it came back as soon as I stopped taking it.How did u get it?

On 4/27/2019 at 4:22 PM, deades said:

Update from me. Celery juice stopped working and my skin was turning a disgusting yellow so I stopped. I came across an old thread from a guy named Waseem Abbas who had the exact type if acne I had ie white pus zits. He got cured by accutane. His thread motivated me so much I went to my local GP and asked for an emergency referral to see a dermatologist. I got an appointment 2 weeks later. The derm said he saw my type of acne was common among adults and said accutane would clear it up. I got my script for 10 mg and off I went.

Long story short.

Accutane cleared up white pus zits. 10mg/day for a month now all gone.

I will also say that I have been taking psyllium husk powder 2-3x/day which was recommended by my derm has made me feel much better. Overall I have had zero side effects aside from midly dry lips. Next month my dose will be upped to 20 mg.

 

 

I saw Waseem Abbas's thread which goes back to 2012. Am I right? Are u sure that his condition is same as ours?

2 hours ago, anotheruglyboy said:

For me it came after I shaved when my jawline still had acne. To stop it, I had to go on antibiotic(clindamycin)which kept it at bay for 4-5 months the second course of the same antibiotic (clindamycin) failed to control it and it came back as soon as I stopped taking it.How did u get it?

I saw Waseem Abbas's thread which goes back to 2012. Am I right? Are u sure that his condition is same as ours?

the type of acne is exactly the same. Infact his is more severe than mine. He complains multiple times of white pus zits. You can clearly see numerous white/yellow pus filled pimples in his progress pics. Accutane completely obliterated them. This type of acne responds extremely quickly for whatever reason. You can see by day 30 just on 20 mg he has dramatic improvement. And years after finishing his 6 month course he is still cured. Currently I do not have a single zit on my face and I am on an even lower dose heading into my 2nd month.

Pls everyone go to a dermatologist asap and ask for accutane do not wait for this plague to scar your face

Very low dose of accutane, like 10mg every other day is not controlling this type of acne in my case. Minocycline and Amoxicillin completly clear it by day 3.

Minocyclin is not working that well any more after several months and several courses of usage. Resistance happened, and I have to increase the dose from like 100mg a day to 150mg a day.

Higher dose of accutane than the above is drying and cracking and scarring my skin. But I have like 10 years history of taking accutane low dose that damaged my skin. Before with 10mg a day of Accutane I had perfect skin, I just had to continue using it for long time when it worked.

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So I suggest Minocycline long term for this. Although after 6 months I think it will stop working, so it is just temporary remedy.

12 hours ago, rapharapha said:

Very low dose of accutane, like 10mg every other day is not controlling this type of acne in my case. Minocycline and Amoxicillin completly clear it by day 3.

 

Minocyclin is not working that well any more after several months and several courses of usage. Resistance happened, and I have to increase the dose from like 100mg a day to 150mg a day.

 

Higher dose of accutane than the above is drying and cracking and scarring my skin. But I have like 10 years history of taking accutane low dose that damaged my skin. Before with 10mg a day of Accutane I had perfect skin, I just had to continue using it for long time when it worked.

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So I suggest Minocycline long term for this. Although after 6 months I think it will stop working, so it is just temporary remedy.

I don't think antibiotics are any good. They're are only going to mess it up even more.

17 hours ago, deades said:

the type of acne is exactly the same. Infact his is more severe than mine. He complains multiple times of white pus zits. You can clearly see numerous white/yellow pus filled pimples in his progress pics. Accutane completely obliterated them. This type of acne responds extremely quickly for whatever reason. You can see by day 30 just on 20 mg he has dramatic improvement. And years after finishing his 6 month course he is still cured. Currently I do not have a single zit on my face and I am on an even lower dose heading into my 2nd month.

 

Pls everyone go to a dermatologist asap and ask for accutane do not wait for this plague to scar your face

Well that's great news. I too will look into it (although my earlier experience with accutane was horrible but I took it only for 15-20 days back then, I guess I should have taken the complete course). I have read on some threads that people manage to keep it at bay on a little dose (after the 4-5 monthscourse)of accutane for e.g. 20 mg every 10 days. I just wonder can we keep taking it for life.

Aren t you guys afraid accutane will damage you in the long run ? I took a couple rounds of antibiotics but the infection came back after I stopped taking them. Ican keep the infection under control with a strict diet though ( no dairy, eggs, less sugars and meat) and wash my face with sulphur soap, but it's rly hard, Ive been doing this foralmost 3 years.

I really dont know why I get it only on my face and scalp, as I have growing hair all over the body. Why is it especially targeted in this area ??

57 minutes ago, maverickk21 said:

Aren t you guys afraid accutane will damage you in the long run ? I took a couple rounds of antibiotics but the infection came back after I stopped taking them. Ican keep the infection under control with a strict diet though ( no dairy, eggs, less sugars and meat) and wash my face with sulphur soap, but it's rly hard, Ive been doing this foralmost 3 years.

I really dont know why I get it only on my face and scalp, as I have growing hair all over the body. Why is it especially targeted in this area ??

Yeah I do worry about the damage but I guess any damage would be lessthan the damage this acne has causedto my self-esteem. I am currently not on accutane, I just use BP5% in the night & I eat everything.

https://springstderm.com/when-the-provider-is-the-patient-my-accutane-story-part-3/ Can we trackdown the guy in this blog. He too had the same condition which antibiotics were unable to curebut went on accutane which got the bacterial growth limited he also talks about usingcertain antibiotics after the accutane course so that the bacteria is completely eliminated.

4 hours ago, anotheruglyboy said:

https://springstderm.com/when-the-provider-is-the-patient-my-accutane-story-part-3/ Can we trackdown the guy in this blog. He too had the same condition which antibiotics were unable to curebut went on accutane which got the bacterial growth limited he also talks about usingcertain antibiotics after the accutane course so that the bacteria is completely eliminated.

Perhaps you are in the wrong thread, but thisguy has a completely different condition.

Also, I'm not sure why some people on here want to cure this conditionwith antibiotics, when antibiotica causes this condition in the first place.

4 hours ago, anotheruglyboy said:

Yeah I do worry about the damage but I guess any damage would be lessthan the damage this acne has causedto my self-esteem. I am currently not on accutane, I just use BP5% in the night & I eat everything.

https://springstderm.com/when-the-provider-is-the-patient-my-accutane-story-part-3/ Can we trackdown the guy in this blog. He too had the same condition which antibiotics were unable to curebut went on accutane which got the bacterial growth limited he also talks about usingcertain antibiotics after the accutane course so that the bacteria is completely eliminated.

BP 5% is too strong. I've had very similar acne to this (in the exact same area but more cystic than a bunch of whiteheads) and I tried everything, I stopped Proactiv which was the one I used the longest, and switched to the Acne.org regimen and it cleared me up almost INSTANTLY. I've been completely clear for weeks now which hasn't happened since I was 16. I suggest trying acne.org first if your acne is similar to this.

1 hour ago, Maicon said:

Perhaps you are in the wrong thread, but thisguy has a completely different condition.

Also, I'm not sure why some people on here want to cure this conditionwith antibiotics, when antibiotica causes this condition in the first place.

Yeah looking at the pictures I doubted that too but the symptoms (like white puss in his hair folliciles and antibiotics failing him) were the same so that made me think that his condition was same as ours. And about antibiotics I am on the same page as you antibiotics are a curse, I just referred to his use of antibiotics after he completed his course of accutane. I don't know about you brother but this condition has taken a toll on me , and that is the reason I am in a constant & desperate search for a cure.

He has the same condition, but the pictures arent very clear. I also have it, enterobacter aerogenes and antibiotics failed me but i still refuse to try the accutane. I think most of the people here tried it already and it always came back. I wonder if itcame back for the guy in the article above as well.

@anotheruglyboy How come you eat everything ? Have you tried the diet without dairy and eggs?

Why don't you guys try applying topical antifungal cream ? Totally safe and cheap.

TOPICAL anti-fungals are VERY safe. People who have fungal conditions (that look like acne, but are not acne) need to apply topical antifungals 2-3 a day, every day. The alternative is very nasty, deep cysts etc., which are virtually impossible to get rid of.

As another poster said - antibiotics CAUSE fungal acne.

Hi ! Greetz from Germany. I followed this topic quite a while as I have the same skin condition like rocketboysf (TO) and want to share my experience in this short text. I just signed up for this now. Many informations i found here were very helpful for me on my path to selfhealing! Thank you all ! Sharing is caring ;]

Well i was on the BPO (3% Gel) regimen for several years with this. It helped a lot in the first years but always after sloppy skincare for some days i noticed that those pimples comming back immediately .. Also my face felt stretched, dry and flaky very often ..  Last Spring, 05/2018 i had a huge breakout and i realized that i only treat symptoms man !! .. I didn't cured this freaking disease at all after full 6 years of bpo regimen! 

Well .. Short story:

After desperate of dermatologists and their antibiotics i denied, i quit BPO and all medication completely and switched to strict natural skincare, healthy vegan diet, fasting, doing intermitted fasting, bowel cleans, regular sunbaths for 30 minutes in summer, 3 month 0% sugar intake, increased walking and relaxing time and quality -> my skin condition really improved but never cured. I had weeks with only 1 or 2 pustules .. But also weeks with ~4 small and 2 big ones in the beard area. The first 3 month my skin 'feeling' was pretty bad and pustules came frequently and painfully .. What really improved was my skin "feeling". After this 3 to 4 month of itchyness, dry feeling and tingling sensations, my face started to feel quiet chilled and smooth. I never experienced that in the last 6 years without using BPO & moisturizer. That stuff damaged my skin seriously over the time and made it ultra sensitive.

I ran an experiment and gain experience with CLO2 - Chlorine Dioxide - Product: Chlorine Dioxide Solution (CDS) (3000PPM / 0,3% Solution).

I stumbled across this chemical while i was interested in the oxygenation process of our human body by learning about pranayama.

I discovered a lot of experience reports, talks and presentations about Chlorine Dioxide. (Iam not talking about MMS, MMS is "not the preferred" anymore and was improved and replaced with CDS. CDS (Chlorine Dioxide Solution) in pharma quality is what iam talking about in this text).

CLO2 is 'reported' as safe in dilluted form for topical use and mouth wash and is "selective killing pathogenic germs, bacteria" without causing any side effects. Reading about skin bacteria earlier made me think it could be a bacterial disorder and infection on my skin that bpo couldn't clear out completly in deep, as it only reacts on the skin surface. As i was convinced that it could work for my skin condition - which took some time to research and investigation on that topic - i tried it out on my arm (inside) first for some days and afterwards used it on my face (with metal-free spraybottle or bio-cottonpad).

// Update: CLO2 Face wash: For me it wasn't working in the long run

Guys,

has anybody tried getting a stool analysis and thereupon getting his gut health in check?

Recent studies and media discussions on gut health indicate that skin disorders may be rooted in the gut.

From my experience I can validate that topical creams or lotions would not be a complete relief due to it not addressing the underlying issue. It would always return after stopping the regimen. I can see that eating a more of a low carb diet and not stressing about this condition improves it, but not complete gets rid of this.

Has anybody noticed this flaring up after a stressful event? Or when you go into yourselves, do feel chronically stressed? I hypothesize that all of us feel chronically stressed which leads to a overflow of cortisol in our body which in turn invokes these pus filled bumps around our mouths.

Im also still willing to open up a WhatsApp group to improve communication. Simply send me a pm with your mobile nr

Best

On 5/5/2019 at 11:55 AM, Benbenzer said:

Guys,

has anybody tried getting a stool analysis and thereupon getting his gut health in check?

Recent studies and media discussions on gut health indicate that skin disorders may be rooted in the gut.

From my experience I can validate that topical creams or lotions would not be a complete relief due to it not addressing the underlying issue. It would always return after stopping the regimen. I can see that eating a more of a low carb diet and not stressing about this condition improves it, but not complete gets rid of this.

Has anybody noticed this flaring up after a stressful event? Or when you go into yourselves, do feel chronically stressed? I hypothesize that all of us feel chronically stressed which leads to a overflow of cortisol in our body which in turn invokes these pus filled bumps around our mouths.

Im also still willing to open up a WhatsApp group to improve communication. Simply send me a pm with your mobile nr

 

Best

Yeah what we eat definitely seems to affect it, mine flares up as soon as I eat sugar or dairy. But the docs never take what you say seriously, they think they know everything but you, you who is suffering from the disease doesn't know shit. How to find out what's wrong, there is only so much that we can do with our google knowledge.

I will say to people here again go to a derm ask for accutane.

Start off 10 mg/day you will get results

23 hours ago, deades said:

I will say to people here again go to a derm ask for accutane.

 

Start off 10 mg/day you will get results

I hope this works for us. For how long are you planning to take it?

I'm using very low dose of Accutane, like 10mg every third day (as any higher dries my skin so much). I sometimes suspect it is actually worsening this condition. Hard to make any sane conclusions after so much struggle with this condition. I think with this low dose I have the initial breakout constantly. I used that dose for like 6 months before, and this condition was always the same, even if every other acne cleared. I saw somewhere this can be actually caused by Accutane.

Antibiotics (Minocycline and Amoxicillin) clear it very fast and perfectly, without any drying (skin tightening, thining and damage) comparing to other acne treatments (BP, tretinoin, accutane). But, you cannot take antibiotics forever, and I think I developed 50% resistance on Minocycline.

Desparately trying to get Clorhexidine Diacetate in water solution, as that thing is not available in my country (only clorhexidine in alcohol). And will try to get 2.5% BP, as 5% is burning my skin hard.

I feel like I have to go 10-20mg/day Accutane but I think this would destroy my face (wrinkles, fissures, initial brakeout) as it is very sensitive.

Hi all, just checking in with an update. Unfortunately not good news.

So I finished the 3-month course of tetracycline which was probably 60% effective. Pustules returned within a week.

I then went on a combination of Rifampicin & Clindaymycin for three months. Pretty heavy duty stuff and often used in combo for other quite severe dermatological conditions with great success. Also used topical ointment in the nostrils to elimate staph.Anyway, nothing for 4-6 weeks and then it started working. Although I still had breakouts in other facial areas, the mouth/chin pustules disappeared.

After 3 days off though, there were signs of it returning and tonight I have another, very clear, pustule at the side of my mouth. Expected, but still devastating.

I'llbe seeing the derm again in 6 weeks, but it would seem my only real options are antibiotics or isotretinoin. Considering I've done both twice with no lasting impact, it's not looking good. In the meantime I continue to use Hibiscrub (Hibiclens) and Benzoyl Peroxide to try and fend off the worst of it.

You probably have fungal acne, not ordinary acne. Fungal acne is caused by taking antibiotics. If you have dandruff and/or a white tongue then you most likely have fungal acne, not ordinary acne. I can provide information on how to control fungal acne usin topical anti-fungal creams, if you get back to me.

13 hours ago, Aussie Scientist said:

You probably have fungal acne, not ordinary acne. Fungal acne is caused by taking antibiotics. If you have dandruff and/or a white tongue then you most likely have fungal acne, not ordinary acne. I can provide information on how to control fungal acne usin topical anti-fungal creams, if you get back to me.

Well I don't think its fungal acne. Last year I suffered from fungal infection in the crotch area, I took anti-fungals for good period of time. It cleared up the infection but didn't do anything for this condition.

OK, in that case you could have have gram negative "foliculitis", ie, acne caused by gram negative bacteria. White pus in hair follicles is a sign of gram negative folliculitis/acne. Acne caused by gram negative bacteria occurs a a result of taking doxycycline and/or tetracycline, which knock out the gram positive bacteria (which cause ordinary acne) but in doing so cause an outbreak of gram negative bacteria, which are nastier than gram positive bacteria, and which also cause acne like eruptions etc..

https://www.clinicaladvisor.com/home/dermatologic-look-alikes/pustular-facial-eruptions/2/ https://www.dermnetnz.org/topics/gram-negative-folliculitis/

The treatments for gram negative follicullitis/acne are different types of antibiotics from what are used to treat gram positive bacteria (ie different antibiotics from what are used to treat ordinary acne). Because some of the antibiotics used to treat gram negative bacterial conditions are quite dangerous, I would see if you can use a topical antibiotic that will control gram negative bacteria, rather than an oral antibiotic for gram negative bacteria. You will need to see a doctor about this.

Do not take fluroquinolones (ciproxin etc) which are used to treat conditions caused by gram negative bacteria - fluroquinolones are very dangerous and they have dreadful side effects (permanent tendon damage, colitis etc).

The penicillin derivatives which are used to treat gram negative conditions seem to be relatively safe. You can check this.

On 5/14/2019 at 1:26 AM, Aussie Scientist said:

You probably have fungal acne, not ordinary acne. Fungal acne is caused by taking antibiotics. If you have dandruff and/or a white tongue then you most likely have fungal acne, not ordinary acne. I can provide information on how to control fungal acne usin topical anti-fungal creams, if you get back to me.

Not sure if this one was directed at me - but if so, it's not fungal acne. I do have fungal issues (seb derm) but no oral or topical anti-fungal treatments have helped these particular breakouts and it alsodoesn't fitthe typical visual profile of fungal acne.

Gram Negative Folliculitis is definitely an option - although isotretinoin should help in this case, and similarly to somebody else in this thread, these were the only type of breakouts on my skin that the isotretinoin didn't help with. As I was also found to have a heavy staph population in my nose, we tried to treat for a gram-positive issue first. Might now have to consider the gram-negative route though.

On 5/5/2019 at 7:25 AM, Benbenzer said:

Guys,

has anybody tried getting a stool analysis and thereupon getting his gut health in check?

Recent studies and media discussions on gut health indicate that skin disorders may be rooted in the gut.

Hoping to do this relatively soon! Butneed to be 6 months of the antibiotics first for it to be worth it! In the meantime I'm loading up heavily on probiotics and will be eating ither AIP or Paleo.

One needs to use the correct anti-fungal for the fungus. If one has seb derm then one needs to use topical terbenafine cream. Seb derm is caused by malasezzia and terbenafine controls malasezzia. Other antifungal creams or other oral antifungals will not usually control malasezzia. Oral terbenafine can be dangerous, and is unnecessary. topcal terbenafine cream is safe. Apply topical terbenafine crea (Lamisil) to the affected areas.