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Posted : 05/05/2008 2:06 pm

Hi, All:

 

I'm a fellow PF'er (fungal)... LOL! Although, I'm laughing here, I'm really actually in a complete funk and looking for some major inspiration and hope... This is affecting me mentally and my relationship because this stuff is apparently contagious so, again, any inspiration/hope/advice is greatly appreciated... :)

 

Here's my story in summary; then, I've followed it up by some questions I'd love responses to... I know there are a lot but, again, any responses are greatly appreciated...

 

I moved from Colorado to FL in August 2007... Everything was fine until one day LITERALLY out of nowhere in January 2008 I got a case of the oh so fun PF... I've had it ever since then and it's the worst thing I've ever encountered in my life... It's the most unpredictable and frustrating crap... I would honestly rather be missing a limb than have this stuff... I'm sure many of you can relate... Even more irritating after reading all of these posts is the initial Dermatologist I went to never took a skin biopsy and just looked at it telling me it was PF but never determined which type (bacterial or fungal) and put me on antibiotics, which made it worse because months later a Dermatologist finally did a biopsy and discovered it was fungal. Ugh!

 

I've been on 200mg of Ketaconolzole for a couple of weeks and have seen some improvement... Additionally, I've been using Prop. Gly., the ZNP bar, BP wash, Nizoral, and Gold Bond powder for a few weeks with so-so improvement... I change my sheets and towels everyday, etc...

 

Questions:

 

1) I see a lot of comments about PF flaring up in humid weather as my Dr. has told me the same thing. I'm guessing most of you posting here live in humid climates? Reason being is I'm hearing that in a dry climate people mention it pretty much disappears... I never had this when I lived in Colorado so I can guess this thing thrives in humidity. Has anyone experience PF going away in a dry climate and, if so, once you went back to humidity did it come right back? My dermatologist in FL is one of the best (studied at the Cleveland Clinic, etc.) and I even asked him if it would be beneficial for me to go back to Colorado for a month to let this thing heal and believe it or not he said YES??!! So, please let me know if any of you have experienced this going away when you went to a dry climate and if it came back when you went back to humidity.

 

2) I'm very active and have not worked out in two months because when I get hot and sweaty this thing flares up, which is apparently common according to other posts. So, can I never go out in the heat or get hot or work out again? I need some hope here... I shower immediately after my workout but it still flares up regardless... I'm literally petrified to work out ever again...

 

3) Why does sweat aggravate PF?

 

4) Does Ketaconolzole work for everyone? How long does it take for the pills to kick in and see a difference? I'm athletic and about 200lbs... Should my 200mg dose be upped or is 200mg the max because of the side effects it can have on the liver ?

 

5) Are there other anti-fungal oral medication that tends to work better than Ketaconozole? Has anyone had experiences where Ketaconozole pills didn't work but other orals did?

 

6) I know we all have fungus and bacteria on our skin but will PF always be a problem and never ever go away? Again, this is really putting me in a funk because I've had it now for four months and have only seen "so-so" improvement...

 

7) For those of you who are in relationships, is PF an issue with your relationships? If this is contagious, how are we supposed to be intimate??? PF has killed the intimacy in my relationship over the past couple of months and it's taking a toll on us.... My Dermatologist is good but he told us both not to worry about it and it's not contagious and, of course, when my face touched my wife's face, she ended up getting PF on her face... Luckily, because of me already having it we obviously knew right away it was fungal so I gave her the Ketaconazole cream and it cleared it up quickly for her but, again, he said it was ok and not contagious yet I've read (and eventually learned) here that, in fact, it's contagious... So, again, how have any of you handled it in your relationships?

 

8) If all else fails, does Accutane help "cure" this? Note: I'm using the word "cure" loosely... And, if so, how does Accutane work?

 

I'm sure I have more questions but those are the burning ones... :) ... Thanks again in advance!!!!

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Posted : 05/05/2008 2:47 pm

Hi, All:

 

I'm a fellow PF'er (fungal)... LOL! Although, I'm laughing here, I'm really actually in a complete funk and looking for some major inspiration and hope... This is affecting me mentally and my relationship because this stuff is apparently contagious so, again, any inspiration/hope/advice is greatly appreciated... :)

 

Here's my story in summary; then, I've followed it up by some questions I'd love responses to... I know there are a lot but, again, any responses are greatly appreciated...

 

I moved from Colorado to FL in August 2007... Everything was fine until one day LITERALLY out of nowhere in January 2008 I got a case of the oh so fun PF... I've had it ever since then and it's the worst thing I've ever encountered in my life... It's the most unpredictable and frustrating crap... I would honestly rather be missing a limb than have this stuff... I'm sure many of you can relate... Even more irritating after reading all of these posts is the initial Dermatologist I went to never took a skin biopsy and just looked at it telling me it was PF but never determined which type (bacterial or fungal) and put me on antibiotics, which made it worse because months later a Dermatologist finally did a biopsy and discovered it was fungal. Ugh!

 

I've been on 200mg of Ketaconolzole for a couple of weeks and have seen some improvement... Additionally, I've been using Prop. Gly., the ZNP bar, BP wash, Nizoral, and Gold Bond powder for a few weeks with so-so improvement... I change my sheets and towels everyday, etc...

 

Questions:

 

1) I see a lot of comments about PF flaring up in humid weather as my Dr. has told me the same thing. I'm guessing most of you posting here live in humid climates? Reason being is I'm hearing that in a dry climate people mention it pretty much disappears... I never had this when I lived in Colorado so I can guess this thing thrives in humidity. Has anyone experience PF going away in a dry climate and, if so, once you went back to humidity did it come right back? My dermatologist in FL is one of the best (studied at the Cleveland Clinic, etc.) and I even asked him if it would be beneficial for me to go back to Colorado for a month to let this thing heal and believe it or not he said YES??!! So, please let me know if any of you have experienced this going away when you went to a dry climate and if it came back when you went back to humidity.

 

2) I'm very active and have not worked out in two months because when I get hot and sweaty this thing flares up, which is apparently common according to other posts. So, can I never go out in the heat or get hot or work out again? I need some hope here... I shower immediately after my workout but it still flares up regardless... I'm literally petrified to work out ever again...

 

3) Why does sweat aggravate PF?

 

4) Does Ketaconolzole work for everyone? How long does it take for the pills to kick in and see a difference? I'm athletic and about 200lbs... Should my 200mg dose be upped or is 200mg the max because of the side effects it can have on the liver ?

 

5) Are there other anti-fungal oral medication that tends to work better than Ketaconozole? Has anyone had experiences where Ketaconozole pills didn't work but other orals did?

 

6) I know we all have fungus and bacteria on our skin but will PF always be a problem and never ever go away? Again, this is really putting me in a funk because I've had it now for four months and have only seen "so-so" improvement...

 

7) For those of you who are in relationships, is PF an issue with your relationships? If this is contagious, how are we supposed to be intimate??? PF has killed the intimacy in my relationship over the past couple of months and it's taking a toll on us.... My Dermatologist is good but he told us both not to worry about it and it's not contagious and, of course, when my face touched my wife's face, she ended up getting PF on her face... Luckily, because of me already having it we obviously knew right away it was fungal so I gave her the Ketaconazole cream and it cleared it up quickly for her but, again, he said it was ok and not contagious yet I've read (and eventually learned) here that, in fact, it's contagious... So, again, how have any of you handled it in your relationships?

 

8) If all else fails, does Accutane help "cure" this? Note: I'm using the word "cure" loosely... And, if so, how does Accutane work?

 

I'm sure I have more questions but those are the burning ones... :) ... Thanks again in advance!!!!

 

Hey, I've had this for 2 years, and it never goes away fully for me. Certain things help, I even get it to the point where it can hardly be seen, but it's never gone away fully.

 

1) I live in England, and I don't think England is too humid, so, no, humidity isn't really an issue for me.

 

2) I went to a rave last night - I ended up so covered in sweat that I took my shirt off, which was literally dripping with sweat, and danced for a few hours like that. Didn't affect the condition of my PF too badly, but I have noticed a slight flare up today, so there is a possible connection.

 

3) Possibly contains oils? PF lives off of oils on our skin, that's why accutane works in short term.

 

4) I've been on ketoconazole twice, and once I used more than the reccomended dose, and almost damaged my liver - again, no improvement.

 

5) Itraconazole and Sporanox are the only other ones I know of, not sure if they work better though.

 

6) It is possible that you will one day outgrow it, but it seems that damage control is the only thing you can do. LionQueen had success with photofacials, you might want to send her a PM asking her about it, as far as I'm aware, she hasn't had any trouble since.

 

7) Not in a relationship, but I assume this stuff is contagious because of what you said about your partners face. From what you said though, it seems that if you catch and treat it early enough, it can be dealt with.

 

8) This is something that I'm thinking of trying. If accutane provides at least a short term remission from PF, then it's possible that you can catch it before it starts to fully develop again. If all else fails, I'd assume a long term small dose of accutane for maintenance would work.

 

Good luck, and don't give up. This stuff really fucks up your life, it destroyed years of mine, but don't lose hope, I'm certain there's something out there that works, just gotta keep searching.

 

EDIT: Look in my sig. Everything apart from the 4th and 5th step are what I've been doing to treat PF. I haven't really been using topicals except for ketoconazole shampoo in the bath once a day, but since starting steps 1-3, I've noticed a massive clearance. One side of my neck (where I have PF) is almost completely clear, the other not so clear. So, I suggest you give it a try, it's not expensive and I'd love to see if I'm onto something here.

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Posted : 05/06/2008 11:15 am

Hi, All:

 

I'm a fellow PF'er (fungal)... LOL! Although, I'm laughing here, I'm really actually in a complete funk and looking for some major inspiration and hope... This is affecting me mentally and my relationship because this stuff is apparently contagious so, again, any inspiration/hope/advice is greatly appreciated... :)

 

Here's my story in summary; then, I've followed it up by some questions I'd love responses to... I know there are a lot but, again, any responses are greatly appreciated...

 

I moved from Colorado to FL in August 2007... Everything was fine until one day LITERALLY out of nowhere in January 2008 I got a case of the oh so fun PF... I've had it ever since then and it's the worst thing I've ever encountered in my life... It's the most unpredictable and frustrating crap... I would honestly rather be missing a limb than have this stuff... I'm sure many of you can relate... Even more irritating after reading all of these posts is the initial Dermatologist I went to never took a skin biopsy and just looked at it telling me it was PF but never determined which type (bacterial or fungal) and put me on antibiotics, which made it worse because months later a Dermatologist finally did a biopsy and discovered it was fungal. Ugh!

 

I've been on 200mg of Ketaconolzole for a couple of weeks and have seen some improvement... Additionally, I've been using Prop. Gly., the ZNP bar, BP wash, Nizoral, and Gold Bond powder for a few weeks with so-so improvement... I change my sheets and towels everyday, etc...

 

Questions:

 

1) I see a lot of comments about PF flaring up in humid weather as my Dr. has told me the same thing. I'm guessing most of you posting here live in humid climates? Reason being is I'm hearing that in a dry climate people mention it pretty much disappears... I never had this when I lived in Colorado so I can guess this thing thrives in humidity. Has anyone experience PF going away in a dry climate and, if so, once you went back to humidity did it come right back? My dermatologist in FL is one of the best (studied at the Cleveland Clinic, etc.) and I even asked him if it would be beneficial for me to go back to Colorado for a month to let this thing heal and believe it or not he said YES??!! So, please let me know if any of you have experienced this going away when you went to a dry climate and if it came back when you went back to humidity.

 

2) I'm very active and have not worked out in two months because when I get hot and sweaty this thing flares up, which is apparently common according to other posts. So, can I never go out in the heat or get hot or work out again? I need some hope here... I shower immediately after my workout but it still flares up regardless... I'm literally petrified to work out ever again...

 

3) Why does sweat aggravate PF?

 

4) Does Ketaconolzole work for everyone? How long does it take for the pills to kick in and see a difference? I'm athletic and about 200lbs... Should my 200mg dose be upped or is 200mg the max because of the side effects it can have on the liver ?

 

5) Are there other anti-fungal oral medication that tends to work better than Ketaconozole? Has anyone had experiences where Ketaconozole pills didn't work but other orals did?

 

6) I know we all have fungus and bacteria on our skin but will PF always be a problem and never ever go away? Again, this is really putting me in a funk because I've had it now for four months and have only seen "so-so" improvement...

 

7) For those of you who are in relationships, is PF an issue with your relationships? If this is contagious, how are we supposed to be intimate??? PF has killed the intimacy in my relationship over the past couple of months and it's taking a toll on us.... My Dermatologist is good but he told us both not to worry about it and it's not contagious and, of course, when my face touched my wife's face, she ended up getting PF on her face... Luckily, because of me already having it we obviously knew right away it was fungal so I gave her the Ketaconazole cream and it cleared it up quickly for her but, again, he said it was ok and not contagious yet I've read (and eventually learned) here that, in fact, it's contagious... So, again, how have any of you handled it in your relationships?

 

8) If all else fails, does Accutane help "cure" this? Note: I'm using the word "cure" loosely... And, if so, how does Accutane work?

 

I'm sure I have more questions but those are the burning ones... :) ... Thanks again in advance!!!!

 

Hey, I've had this for 2 years, and it never goes away fully for me. Certain things help, I even get it to the point where it can hardly be seen, but it's never gone away fully.

 

1) I live in England, and I don't think England is too humid, so, no, humidity isn't really an issue for me.

 

2) I went to a rave last night - I ended up so covered in sweat that I took my shirt off, which was literally dripping with sweat, and danced for a few hours like that. Didn't affect the condition of my PF too badly, but I have noticed a slight flare up today, so there is a possible connection.

 

3) Possibly contains oils? PF lives off of oils on our skin, that's why accutane works in short term.

 

4) I've been on ketoconazole twice, and once I used more than the reccomended dose, and almost damaged my liver - again, no improvement.

 

5) Itraconazole and Sporanox are the only other ones I know of, not sure if they work better though.

 

6) It is possible that you will one day outgrow it, but it seems that damage control is the only thing you can do. LionQueen had success with photofacials, you might want to send her a PM asking her about it, as far as I'm aware, she hasn't had any trouble since.

 

7) Not in a relationship, but I assume this stuff is contagious because of what you said about your partners face. From what you said though, it seems that if you catch and treat it early enough, it can be dealt with.

 

8) This is something that I'm thinking of trying. If accutane provides at least a short term remission from PF, then it's possible that you can catch it before it starts to fully develop again. If all else fails, I'd assume a long term small dose of accutane for maintenance would work.

 

Good luck, and don't give up. This stuff really fucks up your life, it destroyed years of mine, but don't lose hope, I'm certain there's something out there that works, just gotta keep searching.

 

EDIT: Look in my sig. Everything apart from the 4th and 5th step are what I've been doing to treat PF. I haven't really been using topicals except for ketoconazole shampoo in the bath once a day, but since starting steps 1-3, I've noticed a massive clearance. One side of my neck (where I have PF) is almost completely clear, the other not so clear. So, I suggest you give it a try, it's not expensive and I'd love to see if I'm onto something here.

 

 

 

Thanks for the reply!! Appreciate it!

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Posted : 05/06/2008 2:03 pm

No worries ;)

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Posted : 05/08/2008 10:19 pm

Hi everyone. I am new to the forum.

 

I NEVER had acne as a teen. In fact I always thought to myself, wow I am soo lucky!

 

Fast forward to 4 months ago. I started getting small bumps all over my cheeks, and near my chin/mouth.

 

Incidently, 4months ago I started using a regimen of face products for oily skin. Before this I never washed my face outside of the shower. Matter of fact there were plenty of nights where I went to bed with a full face of makeup, never waking up to anything more than perhaps an occasional whitehead around my cycle time.

 

So I decided to use Nuetrogena's 3 step acne set. I loved the way the products smelled and felt, but still no solution to the bumps, and they started to spread, and increase in number.

 

I started to pop them, because I am obsessive. And I couldn't believe this was happening to me at 23 years old!

 

I came to this site and read up on PF and decided this must be what I have. The derm can't see me till June 6th. So I must self diagnois for now. I ordered Ketoconazole 2% cream and have been using that for the last two days. Hopefully I will see results.

 

But now I have bigger problems. I don't know if it was the PF or my constant picking, but one side of my face is all red discolored, looks like it might scar, and today I noticed 2 small rolling marks scars!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

I model in addition to everything else! I CAN'T have scars or makrs on my face. I am hoping to work more with a Magazine that has shot me before, but they will never hire me again if my face is red and blotchy!

 

 

I need help. I am miserable depressed, and feel like the ugliest girl in the room. Please help

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Posted : 05/08/2008 11:25 pm

Adulate:

 

Sounds almost exactly like how i obtained it, moved back to Ohio and started a regiment and it seems to be in moderation at the moment. Head and Shoulders, and AVC helped a lot, also using a 10,000 IU of Vitamin A.

 

I feel your pain, I'm there with ya.

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Posted : 05/09/2008 11:35 am

Hi everyone. I am new to the forum.

 

I NEVER had acne as a teen. In fact I always thought to myself, wow I am soo lucky!

 

Fast forward to 4 months ago. I started getting small bumps all over my cheeks, and near my chin/mouth.

 

Incidently, 4months ago I started using a regimen of face products for oily skin. Before this I never washed my face outside of the shower. Matter of fact there were plenty of nights where I went to bed with a full face of makeup, never waking up to anything more than perhaps an occasional whitehead around my cycle time.

 

So I decided to use Nuetrogena's 3 step acne set. I loved the way the products smelled and felt, but still no solution to the bumps, and they started to spread, and increase in number.

 

I started to pop them, because I am obsessive. And I couldn't believe this was happening to me at 23 years old!

 

I came to this site and read up on PF and decided this must be what I have. The derm can't see me till June 6th. So I must self diagnois for now. I ordered Ketoconazole 2% cream and have been using that for the last two days. Hopefully I will see results.

 

But now I have bigger problems. I don't know if it was the PF or my constant picking, but one side of my face is all red discolored, looks like it might scar, and today I noticed 2 small rolling marks scars!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

I model in addition to everything else! I CAN'T have scars or makrs on my face. I am hoping to work more with a Magazine that has shot me before, but they will never hire me again if my face is red and blotchy!

 

 

I need help. I am miserable depressed, and feel like the ugliest girl in the room. Please help

 

If the redness came after using the ketoconazole, I think it's just your skin getting used to it. If you apply silly amounts when your skin gets used to it, it goes the same way. Give it a week maybe, it should start to irritate you less - I don't know if the irritation will stop though, I've been using the stuff for 2 years, and it still irritates me a bit.

 

Try drinking ACV and taking fish oil, that helps - see my sig for info.

 

Also, people have reported success with proylene glycol, try buying this (if you are in U.K), it's 50/50 propylene glycol, distilled water. If you live in U.S, people over there don't seem to have a hard time finding it.

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Posted : 05/09/2008 12:02 pm

FusionZer0:

 

Interesting that you mentioned you moved from Ohio to FL and never had this before... Exact same thing for me... I moved from Colorado (dry climate) to FL in August 2007. Everything was fine until four months later this stuff hit me literally out of nowhere... It started on my left shoulder and left side of my chest.... Just saw my dermatologist again and he said it's common in FL because of the intense humidity and apparently PF (fungal) thrives on it... Plus my skin is so oily that the humidity causes my face to be even more oily and PF (fungal) apparently feeds off of the oil...

 

Anyway, I've been taking Ketaconazole pills for three weeks now and seeing improvement... I've also been using the ZNP bar, BP wash 5%, Nizoral shampoo, and PG... I'm only getting a couple of random pustules here and there as it stands for now but this stuff is unpredictable... There are days I feel great and others where I'm saying, "what in the *ell!!??" because it is so unpredictable and can be reckeless and merciless... My greatest fear in my head is once I stop the pills in about a week that this thing will come back... My dermatologist said that once I get it under control that it may recur here and there but the pills should fix most of it; however, I'm trying to be postive but I'm also skeptical because I've read on the message boards that this recurs often when medication is stopped...

 

Is Ohio humid? Are you starting to see better improvement now that you're back in Ohio? My wife and I are going back to Colorado for a week next week and I can't wait because the climate is 100% dry... I'm hoping that the dry air will help get some of this back under control and kill some of it off...

 

 

Adulate:

 

Sounds almost exactly like how i obtained it, moved back to Ohio and started a regiment and it seems to be in moderation at the moment. Head and Shoulders, and AVC helped a lot, also using a 10,000 IU of Vitamin A.

 

I feel your pain, I'm there with ya.

 

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Posted : 05/09/2008 1:53 pm

Thanks for the responses.... I will keep everyone updated. I also have one Diflucan pill I got as a sample from the Dr. I have not taken it yet, as I am waiting to see if the Ketocanazole does the trick. My bf says it's getting better. But I don't believe him, he would say I looked good if I had a giant wart covering my face, lol.

 

I am so concerned about the red/brown marks...I feel so guilty for picking and squeezing my bumps. But I couldn't help it. Still can't. It feels like compulsion. Now I pass a mirror and I stare for what seems like hours.

 

I work as make up artist when I am not modeling, and both professions require a degree of expected beauty. A bride will not want me doing her make up If she can see raised bumps through my fondation.

 

So for me it's not only vanity, but really more the effect this will have on my ability to make an income.

 

PS. If anyone wants any tips on how to make foundation completely camoflage any discoloration, acne related or otherwise I can help. Anywhere from the best products to use, and the ideal tools for application. :D

 

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Posted : 05/09/2008 2:00 pm

I am so concerned about the red/brown marks...I feel so guilty for picking and squeezing my bumps. But I couldn't help it. Still can't. It feels like compulsion. Now I pass a mirror and I stare for what seems like hours.

 

 

unfortunately, these stupid marks are very slow to fade. :(

 

I ended up getting a series of photofacials and microdermabrasions .... that got rid of 'em.

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Posted : 05/09/2008 2:10 pm

The reason I think Mandelic Acid works so good for many people is that most of the people in this thread uses the Mandelic Acid from Vivant. All of their Mandelic Acid products got a lot of Propylene Glycol in them which helps with PF. The Mandelic Acid will probably also help, but I think it is the propylene glycol which does the most for this condition.

 

 

From my experience, both mandelic and PG are effective at treating folliculitis. The mandelic I use is from my esthetician's own line and it does not contain PG, but it still works on its own to keep my PF under control. I was pretty clear just on the Face Reality Mandelic serum, but the PG/water soultion I am also using helped to boost the effects a bit.

 

A few weeks ago, I also started using a new mandelic scrub by Vivant. I don't think it is available for purchase yet, but my esthetician knows Dr. Fulton (the owner of the product line) and carries the product line in her clinic - they must be testing it out because she gave me a free sample to try out. So far I really like it a lot.

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Posted : 05/10/2008 12:24 am

Ya I found it helped great ohio is never humid only in the late summer weeks, but I still have several marks lingering around my face. I work as a cook in a restaurant so the heat there can't be good for it, but yes it helped. ACV seems to be doing good too, haven't tried the ZNP bar yet. Changing my pillow case everyday seems to be helping . I just wish this could of formed on my chest or back, someplace people don't look at everyday.

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Posted : 05/10/2008 1:57 am

I'm trying cutting out suagrs, and gonna see how that turns out.

 

I know, it's crap, I got it on my neck, and it looked really bad and out of place :(

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Posted : 05/10/2008 11:53 am

Does any of you know why Mandelic Acid works against PF?

The only place where I have read that it is antifungal is on betterhealtyskin, the site that sells the stuff.

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Posted : 05/10/2008 2:35 pm

Does any of you know why Mandelic Acid works against PF?

 

The only place where I have read that it is antifungal is on betterhealtyskin.com, the site that sells the stuff.

 

According to Dr. Fulton (creater of the Vivant line and also developer of Retin-A), mandelic has both antibacterial and antifungal effects. I just think that its hard to find much more on the properties of mandelic since it isn't a widely used or researched ingredient for skin care.

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Posted : 05/11/2008 4:46 am

Does any of you know why Mandelic Acid works against PF?

 

The only place where I have read that it is antifungal is on betterhealtyskin.com, the site that sells the stuff.

 

According to Dr. Fulton (creater of the Vivant line and also developer of Retin-A), mandelic has both antibacterial and antifungal effects. I just think that its hard to find much more on the properties of mandelic since it isn't a widely used or researched ingredient for skin care.

 

 

Okey:)

 

using the cleanser right now and will be getting the serum soon. Looking forward to start using it.

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Posted : 05/15/2008 2:32 pm

O.K, thought I'd provide an update on my progress with the ACV and low sugar diet.

 

For the past few days I've seriously cut down my intake of sugar, and been drinking around a cup full (THATS A LOT) of organic ACV, and I've noticed that PF is very much almost gone. One side of my neck is totally clear (A first in 2 years) and the other is getting that way now.

 

I would advise anyone to try this. Cut down on sugar, artificial sweetners are a BAD idea too. And drink lots of ACV. I drink half a cup in the morning, and half a cup at night. I'm getting through a bottle a week if that helps measurements.

 

Also, the only topical I am using is ketoconazole shampoo in the bath (It only helps with itching, doesn't really do much else for me)

 

So, there ya go, give that a try :)

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Posted : 05/15/2008 9:07 pm

O.K, thought I'd provide an update on my progress with the ACV and low sugar diet.

 

For the past few days I've seriously cut down my intake of sugar, and been drinking around a cup full (THATS A LOT) of organic ACV, and I've noticed that PF is very much almost gone. One side of my neck is totally clear (A first in 2 years) and the other is getting that way now.

 

I would advise anyone to try this. Cut down on sugar, artificial sweetners are a BAD idea too. And drink lots of ACV. I drink half a cup in the morning, and half a cup at night. I'm getting through a bottle a week if that helps measurements.

 

Also, the only topical I am using is ketoconazole shampoo in the bath (It only helps with itching, doesn't really do much else for me)

 

So, there ya go, give that a try :)

 

So when you say you've cut down sugar..do you mean just extra sugar like in junk food, etc, or sugar that is in fruits, etc? And also for the ACV...I happen to have ACV pills...do you think that would have the same effect? They are each 500mg and I try to take 2 pills 3 times a day. Thanks!

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Posted : 05/16/2008 12:19 am

O.K, thought I'd provide an update on my progress with the ACV and low sugar diet.

 

For the past few days I've seriously cut down my intake of sugar, and been drinking around a cup full (THATS A LOT) of organic ACV, and I've noticed that PF is very much almost gone. One side of my neck is totally clear (A first in 2 years) and the other is getting that way now.

 

I would advise anyone to try this. Cut down on sugar, artificial sweetners are a BAD idea too. And drink lots of ACV. I drink half a cup in the morning, and half a cup at night. I'm getting through a bottle a week if that helps measurements.

 

Also, the only topical I am using is ketoconazole shampoo in the bath (It only helps with itching, doesn't really do much else for me)

 

So, there ya go, give that a try :)

 

So when you say you've cut down sugar..do you mean just extra sugar like in junk food, etc, or sugar that is in fruits, etc? And also for the ACV...I happen to have ACV pills...do you think that would have the same effect? They are each 500mg and I try to take 2 pills 3 times a day. Thanks!

 

 

Like in junk food mainly, haven't had any fruit in a while now really. Well, I really don't think ACV pills will have anywhere near the same effect, I'm drinking massive amounts of ACV, and it's making a huge difference daily. This morning I woke up to find the other side of my neck almost completely clear :)

 

I would just buy a bottle of organic (important that it's organic) apply cyder vinegar, they aren't expensive, and get used to drinking it.

 

I suck up half a mouthful through a straw, then fill the rest of my mouth with water then swallow straight down. It's an awful taste at first, but you get used to it, and it's the only thing that's ever really worked, ans that inlcudes ketoconazole pills which are meant to be the best thing for it.

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Posted : 05/16/2008 9:10 am

Good to hear you have found somethin gthat works!

 

Why does the ACV has to be organic really?

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Posted : 05/16/2008 9:25 am

Good to hear you have found somethin gthat works!

 

Why does the ACV has to be organic really?

 

Not sure, but people trying the ACV regimen report that only organic works. It's easy to find, you can find it any big shop/supermarket.

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Posted : 05/16/2008 7:49 pm

Good to hear you have found somethin gthat works!

 

Why does the ACV has to be organic really?

 

Not sure, but people trying the ACV regimen report that only organic works. It's easy to find, you can find it any big shop/supermarket.

 

 

So I bought some organic APC...drank a cup of it...hideous taste!!! I'll keep this up over the weekend. I just got a flare up of folliculitis again because I took antibiotics after getting my wisdom teeth out, woke up and screamed cause I had it all over lol. And I also just got some propylene glycol today (I'm lucky, my friend is a pharmacist so he orderd me some). I bought some distilled water. So I'm gonna do the 50/50 mix, and put into a spray bottle. Do you use it after you get out of the shower and let it stay on your body, or do you rinse it off?

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Posted : 05/17/2008 1:12 am

Good to hear you have found somethin gthat works!

 

Why does the ACV has to be organic really?

 

Not sure, but people trying the ACV regimen report that only organic works. It's easy to find, you can find it any big shop/supermarket.

 

 

So I bought some organic APC...drank a cup of it...hideous taste!!! I'll keep this up over the weekend. I just got a flare up of folliculitis again because I took antibiotics after getting my wisdom teeth out, woke up and screamed cause I had it all over lol. And I also just got some propylene glycol today (I'm lucky, my friend is a pharmacist so he orderd me some). I bought some distilled water. So I'm gonna do the 50/50 mix, and put into a spray bottle. Do you use it after you get out of the shower and let it stay on your body, or do you rinse it off?

 

 

I think you use it after you get out of shower, just let it soak in.

 

And as for the ACV, I hvae been taking fish oil and zinc with it. I recently started taking less fish oil and zinc and more ACV. Whilst the ACV has helped, I now think the fish oil and zinc did more.

 

Last night, I drank NO ACV, but instead took 10,000mg of fish oil, and 150mg of zinc (10x pills each). Woke up this morning with almost no visible acne or folliculitis :confused:

 

I really don't know anymore. Folliculitis is about trial and error, and it seems that maybe it's the zinc and fish oil doing most of the work. I'll keep iup the megadose and get back with results.

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Posted : 05/19/2008 1:56 pm

Hi there--

 

Just wanted to pass along any info. about the pityrosporum folliculitis topic. I myself have struggled with it for quite some time and it seems to come and go over a period of months. I used to work for a dermatology office, and I was originally diagnosed with a staph infection, and was treated with strong category antibiotics, and then I ended up pregnant with my son and had to come off of them. Amazingly enough, the papules and pustules seemed to go away for a time, then here over the past year they have come back more often. I have taken Ketoconazole (Nizoral) orally, and seems to help the symptoms for a time, seeing as how my new dermatologist has labeled it a basic yeast infection on my forehead.

 

I have been told though, that really the only way to rid a person's body of the pityrosporum yeast, is to do a total cleanse and to have a strict diet--virtually no sugars and no foods that convert to sugars---yeah, I know right!! This advice of course has not come from any doctor, it has come from some nutritionists and alternative medicine experts. I have taken the steps to do some yeast cleansing, but have been told that unless I couple this with the strict diet (candida cleanse diet), that I will not completely rid my body of it, and it will continue to come back. Makes some sense, as I've been told that over the years, my body has become probably overgrown with yeast levels, due to several factors.

 

Just thought I'd throw this out there, and see if anyone has anything to share on this or maybe takes anything away from it.

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Posted : 05/19/2008 5:35 pm

Pityrosporum Folliculitis or Hives?

2 years ago I contracted Folliculitis from a hot tub my arms were ugly as hell with giant big spots after a few weeks they calmed down and it went away,I returned to the gym and training I then broke out in itchy little spots tops of arms upper back thighs neck ect,I had it for about 4 months and it went away,they came back 8 months ago and I am itching like hell,first the doc said it was Folliculitis and put me on antibiotics for 3 months I stopped taking them. they then said I had hives and put me on antihistimines they do nothing aswell, here is likeness of my skin [Edited link out]

Mine sting then itch does anyone have the stinging I am desperate for a cure here.

regards...pg

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