UPDATE: Well, upon day 5 or so of the D3 and Vitamin A regimen, I have broken out again. Hoping its because I started this more intense colon cleanse with psyllium husk/seed. I upped my D3 dosage to 20,000 IU a day as others on the board have done. I also got some "dry" D3 because I read its better than the gels because the gel can go "rancid", whatever that means. I'm thinking the rancid gel could have caused the itching i experienced when i started with the D3.

 

Also, I think alot of my new breakouts come from picking at my skin which I'm trying to stop. I hope this new dosage helps me.

omg, first time i saw 20,000 IU .-.

ok so which one is better for your skin? Vit. D or D3? or are they the same?

=/

wow personally i think 10,000 or higher doses of vitamin D is too much...I started seeing results after 2 weeks with 400-1000UI dosages mixed in with a multivitamin. you can't beat just getting out into the real sun either!

There is a pretty big feature on vitamin D in this month's Oprah magazine - it shows just how important this vitamin is - and I think their advice on dosages is a pretty good average to follow, otherwise I'd say visit your doctor to see how much is too much.

This explains the difference between D and D3 here:

www.differencebetween.net/science/difference-between-vitamin-d-and-vitamin-d3/

I am taking 1000IU of Sisu Vitamin D and if you look at the medicinal ingredients it actually says it is vitamin D3. Seems like D3 is the one to go for, not D2, so read the bottle carefully.

Hello

So i've been supplimenting with vitamin d3 for exactly 4 weeks now and im really starting to clear up but I've been rly healthy this last week so that probably helped me too.

Results so far: very good, but we will see a couple of weeks hopefully it will get even better <3

btw im still taking 6000 iu's aday ( 2000 x 3 )

UPDATE: Well, upon day 5 or so of the D3 and Vitamin A regimen, I have broken out again. Hoping its because I started this more intense colon cleanse with psyllium husk/seed. I upped my D3 dosage to 20,000 IU a day as others on the board have done. I also got some "dry" D3 because I read its better than the gels because the gel can go "rancid", whatever that means. I'm thinking the rancid gel could have caused the itching i experienced when i started with the D3.

 

Also, I think alot of my new breakouts come from picking at my skin which I'm trying to stop. I hope this new dosage helps me.

Looks like you haven't read this entire thread then... Other users have used this amount or more. Not saying its for everyone. I'm only trying it for awhile and will bring it down to 10,000 or less eventually. But, the pills I have are 5,000 IU each.. so taking 2 pills twice a day isn't that bad really.

hey , just read your posts about vitamin D and finally happy someone is coming from the same position

ive sufffered with acne for 2-3 years sometimes clearing a little then come back twice as bad , very up and down .. i struggle as i part time model and am scared and stressed it will ruin me. i also feel very insecure socially about it as i am very smart with what i eat, wash and so on but friends will go mc donalds 4 times a week drink alcohol lots and have no spots.

ive been on many prescription drugs e.g oxytetracyline and now on tetralsal 300 i feel tetraylsal 300 works best for me

The reason im posting on this is because i went to kavos in greece in the summer and over the 2 weeks even though my diet wasnt great as it was holiday, my skin cleared up massively and got smoother , then after i came back it slowly got worse.. so i feel vitamin d could be the cure

going on holiday wednesday to spain for some sun, il keep check on whether it clears up again and hopefully when i get back il get tested and go buy some vitamin D

good luck everyone

Hey everyone! First post for me.

 

Just started taking 1000iu per day but have since upped to 3000iu since reading the posts thoroughly (iffy about taking the 5000+ since you should see a doc for that much).

 

I'll update if there's a change. Fingers crossed! Damned cheek/jaw acne at 23.. It's not okay.

Alright, So I've been doing this vit D3 thing for a little over a month now at 3000ui/day. Got a few pms asking about it so I'm posting my reply here.

Saw an improvement during the 1st week or so, then it just seemed to come back and got a couple cysts the same as I have been before starting this regimen. Since about a week ago, I started to include Cod liver oil (Vit A: 1250ui, Vit D: 100ui) x2/day in my regimen alongside my 3000ui d3/day to try for better absorption.

Haven't seen any vast improvement to speak of yet, still got some cystic ones popping up, but will keep you guys posted. How aggravating.. Worst part is the scars getting left behind since my skin isn't as resilient as it used to be. I don't even pop them and they still leave scars.

Totally agree with hof22 about eating healthy and washing up but still getting pimples while friends can eat crappy food and only splash their face with water and have beautiful skin. Envy.

I am glad to see that others have discovered vitamin D!

I'm in my mid-thirties, and I've suffered with acne in one form or another (face (temples, nose, forehead), back, shoulders, upper arms) since my teens. If I can spare even one person what I have been through, then it is worth sharing this.

Many of you are making false assumptions about dose and toxicity. The form in which you take D is also important. Here's my story.

I have been taking 1600 IU for about three years, and it didn't have any impact on my skin. I was taking it for the sake of my overall health.

At the beginning of 2010, I decided to get tested (live in Canada, so the test doesn't cost me anything). I had it done through my family doctor. A week later, I get a call from the doctor's office -- my level is low, I need to increase my intake.

So I increase it to 2200 IU. No impact on my skin. Keep in mind, at this point, I am not expecting any impact on my skin -- I am doing this for the sake of my long-term health.

Six months later, I go back to the doctor for the follow-up test (my doctor works in a clinic, so I don't always see the same person). The doctor who sees me that day tells me that, given what I have told her, I should increase the dose to 2400 IU, wait two weeks, and then get the blood test again.

I increase it to 2600 IU, wait two weeks, and get the test again.

The results come back: it is STILL low (67 nmol/L (26.8 ng/mL) -- bottom end of the reference range is 80 nmol/L (32 ng/mL))!

"That's it," I think to myself. "I am not screwing around anymore." I had been taking my vitamin D partly as a 1000 IU tablet, and partly as a halibut liver oil supplement that also contains vitamin A. After a discussion with the doctor, who recommended trying it in a concentrated liquid form, I picked up some drops from the pharmacy and "opened the taps."

I began taking 5000 - 7000 IU a day (the range is because I wasn't always very skilled with the dropper). THAT is when things started to change.

My colour improved (pink and rosy cheeks!). My skin temperature went up. My joint pain went away. Within three days -- no BS -- my skin cleared, and it stayed clear. A week later, everything was healed. It has never been this clear since puberty.

My back -- oh heavens, the relief! -- cleared right up. Talk about unexpected effects!

That is what it has been since: 5000 - 7000 IU a day, no exceptions. About two weeks later I got tested a third time -- my level had just managed to creep up over the bottom end of the reference range at 82 nmol/L. It has probably gone up some since then -- I will get another test in the spring to see how things look.

It has been three (3) months. Things are lovely. Here's what I have learned:

• You are probably erring on the low side. Don't be afraid of this stuff -- even at very large doses, it can take months to reach toxic levels.
• Get tested. Don't grope in the dark, don't guess. I will bet money: if you have acne, your level will be low, low, low. The worse your acne, the lower your level is likely to be. For our American friends: spend the money on the test - your health is worth it. Get a 25-hydroxy vitamin D test, and make sure your doctor uses a reputable lab.
• The liquid form from any reputable supplier is better than any tablet. This is a fat-soluble vitamin, and in the dry form it just doesn't get absorbed very well. If you've been chronically unwell, your ability to absorb the stuff is probably also impaired. Best way: liquid form, in an oil suspension, on a teaspoon placed under the tongue and sucked clean.
• Doses of up to 10,000 IU a day are safe over the long term. Anybody who tells you otherwise doesn't know what they are talking about. If your doctor gives you any static, he's working with old information: find a different doctor. (For more information, you can check out this website: www.grassrootshealth.net)

Having said that, the vitamin D alone won't necessarily fix the problem. Here are the other things you need to know:

• Acne is fundamentally an immune system problem. Vitamin D regulates the production of cathelicidins, which are a kind of antibiotic the body naturally produces (that is one way that vitamin D helps here, but likely not the only way).
• Vitamin A in larger doses dries mucus membranes out. All other things being equal, this is desirable in somebody with acne, but all things are not equal here. In my case, I discovered rather by accident that my high vitamin A intake was actually making the problem worse (probably because it results in harder, drier sebaceous secretions). I began taking the halibut liver oil supplement again after I had started the vitamin D drops, since the amount of D in them was relatively little compared with the drops. I had a templar acne outbreak which resolved as soon as I withdrew the A. A is still good, it has plenty of other benefits -- I'd just limit it to 10,000 IU a day, max.
• Oils are your friend! Lots of good oils are part of the equation; I notice that my skin does change for the worse when I leave out the Omega 3 capsules I normally take. I take a mixed Omega 3, 4 capsules a day, with 200 EPA, 100 DHA, 25 GLA and 130 ALA per capsule. I can't be sure - I haven't tested it yet -- but I think the GLA and ALA are also important here, so try to get a formulation that includes them.
• If you have tried D at higher doses and not had too much luck, make sure you are actually absorbing it first: GET TESTED, DO NOT GUESS, DO NOT "HOPE ITS ENOUGH". If you get tested and your levels are above 125 nmol/L (50 ng/mL) and it still doesn't work (which would really surprise me) add the Omega 3 from fish oils, and be generous. Hell, take the Omega 3 and be generous anyway.
• Calcium, magnesium, and zinc are keys. Vitamin D was the "calcium hormone" first, but now we know it regulates magnesium uptake as well and may even play a role in zinc absorption. I take all of these in a citrate form, 300 mg magnesium, 600 mg calcium, and 25 mg zinc. Those might actually seem like low doses, but once you start taking vitamin D at those higher doses, your absorption of these minerals increases dramatically (dramatically enough that I noticed a difference -- pm me if you want details). I notice these also directly impact my skin health. With them, my hands are soft, my skin pliable and healthy. Without them, I'm reaching for the lotion.
• The zinc is important but I would be careful about taking 50 mg long-term, it interferes with copper absorption at those doses and then you can have other problems. Still, this is essentially safe stuff.
• Make sure you are getting enough B2 and B6. Nutritional yeast is a good source of both; B2 is safe to take in virtually any dose, keep your B6 intake below 50 mg a day. The B-50 supplements you can get at the pharmacy are usually enough.
• When in doubt, you are better off putting something (the right thing!) in your body than on your face. The problem starts within.

(Finally -- because some people have asked about whether this helps mood -- the answer is an unequivocal YES. If you want details, PM me.)

To summarize, then: vitamin D? Yes! My girlfriend is certainly convinced

My skin is clear clear. Not pretend clear. Not a few zits here and there. CLEAR. After frickin YEARS of putting up with this crap, and looking in vain for answers.

I wish you all the best of luck, and hope that my story will help someone. Feel free to ask me questions, if you have them.

(The usual disclaimers apply: I am not qualified to give medical advice, I take no responsibility for what you do -- but the things I say here are backed up by hard research and medical professionals )

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My regimen

Topical: A facial scrub, not even every day, and soap

Supplements:

vitamin D, liquid drops, 1000 IU per drop, from D Drops, 5000 - 7000 IU a day, taken sublingually

calcium citrate 600 mg

magnesium citrate 300 mg

zinc citrate 25 mg

B2 250 mg sustained release

B6 25 mg

B12 1000 mcg

Omega 3, 4 capsules (200 mg EPA, 100 mg DHA, 25 mg GLA, 130 mg ALA, all per capsule)

vitamin C, 2000 mg

Diet: I do not eat garbage. No deep-fried foods, lots of variety. Say hello to your veggies

Hey guys!

(I love this post above me. However, I would just like to point out that some of us might be a little sensitive to different sources of omega 3, especially fish oil, and flaxseed oil. I have taken flaxseeds twice a day for a week, and I have never gotten such a painful deep pimples on my chin before in my life. I had pain from this one pimple for days. So just be careful about that.)

I am new here. 23 years old female with annoying unpredictable acne.

I'll just give a little background info here. Around a few months ago, I decided to start a healthy diet, meaning cutting back on refined sugar, no junk food and no dairy. While cutting back on refind sugar might have helped, but cutting back dairy certainly did not, actually my acne on my chin around that time of the month became painful and more frequent. I lost a lot of weight too.

I remembered that last year I used to be out in the sun every single day, but this year I have been avoiding sun like a plague. I also noticed that since starting a glass of milk every day from 2-3 weeks, my mild depression is slightly subsiding. Well, just today I also received my tests. My vitamin D levels are 15, which is pretty low. Before this whole no-dairy diet and enjoying my life by being out, I had mild acne. I rarely got those under the skin pimple on chin before period, but now it has become way more frequent and even small pimples on my chin sometimes seem to give me a lot of pain. I was reading somewhere how vitamin D deficiency can lead to chronic pain and inflammation too. Depression is also a major thing.

So, lets see how my vitamin D3 thing goes. keep the posts coming.

another possible reason for skin improvement could have been the increased ability to absorb calcium due to correction of vitamin d levels, calcium is involved in skin barrier function, theoretically acne could be a loss in skin barrier function where the immune system is trying to attack the bacteria as it tries to enter the body. this is just a theory i had about acne though, imaginative but not necessarily true.

Your theory might be quite true. My dad is an alternative medicine doctor with a lot of knowledge. This is what he has been telling me all along. Another alternative doctor just told me yesterday that vitamin D deficiency leads to calcium def and eventually very low absorption of vitamin C. That also means weak immune system. Your body can't fight these pesky little acne bacteria better.

Okay, so cheek/jaw acne and scars still here.

Thinking about going for tests for vitamin D (since I'm in Canada too), but my doc brushes me off for everything all the time so it probably wont get done either way.

Might just increase to 10 000 for a few days and see what happens, but I haven't found liquid forms of the D3 tablets..

If I switch something up and it works, I'll let you guys know.. For now, nothing.

Well, I think I've found it... I think it's finally over! it's been about 2 months, and *no new breakouts*. Absolutely none. I'm... shocked! After all this time, I think I finally found the acne cause and solution, for me.

 

Two months ago, I started taking vitamin D supplements, about 1000IU per day. Nothing else changed: work has been no more or less stressful, my diet hasn't changed, nothing significant in personal life. I just noticed that my skin is always better after getting a little bit of sunshine, so decided to try taking vitamin D... and, voila! My skin has *never* looked better... It actually looks kind of pretty!

 

It's hard to believe it could be so simple, yet it kind of makes sense: I never had acne until moving from Arizona to Seattle, and, it always got worse in the winter. The only other time I had acne in my life was while still living in Arizona, I tried a brief stint of eating a very, very low-fat diet (yes, I was young and foolish), and wearing sunscreen religiously; perhaps since vitamin D is fat-soluble, and I was avoiding the sun, I was just unable to synthesize or absorb it. And, sure enough, once I abandoned the low-fat foolishness, the acne disappeared as well. Until I moved to Seattle, that is, when it returned with a vengeance.

 

The only heavy-duty medications I tried were retin-A for a year, and orthotricyclen for four months. Both were ineffective, unfortunately: the retin-A had absolutely no effect (after a frickin year!!) and on orthotricyclen I still had reliably regular monthly breakouts, plus some in between. I tried eliminating various foods from the diet: chocolate, dairy, peanuts, and citrus, all to no effect.

 

Also, I absolutely don't eat processed foods, and very little sugar; mostly whole foods, lots of veggies, low sugar, lots of fish oils, only grass-fed organic meat when I do eat meat, blah, blah, blah, etc etc, all the usual recommendations. I got extremely sick of claims that acne is punishment for dietary transgressions -- I *don't* eat crap, at all, yet still had acne.

 

Anyway! All this is to say that after 3 years of trial and error, I've been pretty much stumped! Until now... taking vitamin D. It's very weird. It's possible that this one simple thing, vitamin D deficiency, has been the problem the entire time. Wow.

 

It's been about 2 months, so I'm hoping this keeps up. If anything changes, I'll let you guys know, but... so far, so good!

 

If anyone is still trying the litany of various dietary/medical/vitamin tricks, well, don't forget to give this one a try. Not the cause for everybody, I'm sure, but if there are any others out there like me, maybe this will help!

is it ok to take vitamin D with zinc ??? or is that harmful ???

is it ok to take vitamin D with zinc ??? or is that harmful ???

That is safe, yes.

The amount of zinc you take is more important. If you are depleted, taking more in the beginning is okay.

Just be careful with taking 50 mg or more over a period of months, since it can result in a copper deficiency.

I am glad to see that others have discovered vitamin D!

 

I'm in my mid-thirties, and I've suffered with acne in one form or another (face (temples, nose, forehead), back, shoulders, upper arms) since my teens. If I can spare even one person what I have been through, then it is worth sharing this.

 

Many of you are making false assumptions about dose and toxicity. The form in which you take D is also important. Here's my story.

 

I have been taking 1600 IU for about three years, and it didn't have any impact on my skin. I was taking it for the sake of my overall health.

 

At the beginning of 2010, I decided to get tested (live in Canada, so the test doesn't cost me anything). I had it done through my family doctor. A week later, I get a call from the doctor's office -- my level is low, I need to increase my intake.

 

So I increase it to 2200 IU. No impact on my skin. Keep in mind, at this point, I am not expecting any impact on my skin -- I am doing this for the sake of my long-term health.

 

Six months later, I go back to the doctor for the follow-up test (my doctor works in a clinic, so I don't always see the same person). The doctor who sees me that day tells me that, given what I have told her, I should increase the dose to 2400 IU, wait two weeks, and then get the blood test again.

 

I increase it to 2600 IU, wait two weeks, and get the test again.

 

The results come back: it is STILL low (67 nmol/L (26.8 ng/mL) -- bottom end of the reference range is 80 nmol/L (32 ng/mL))!

 

"That's it," I think to myself. "I am not screwing around anymore." I had been taking my vitamin D partly as a 1000 IU tablet, and partly as a halibut liver oil supplement that also contains vitamin A. After a discussion with the doctor, who recommended trying it in a concentrated liquid form, I picked up some drops from the pharmacy and "opened the taps."

 

I began taking 5000 - 7000 IU a day (the range is because I wasn't always very skilled with the dropper). THAT is when things started to change.

 

My colour improved (pink and rosy cheeks!). My skin temperature went up. My joint pain went away. Within three days -- no BS -- my skin cleared, and it stayed clear. A week later, everything was healed. It has never been this clear since puberty.

 

My back -- oh heavens, the relief! -- cleared right up. Talk about unexpected effects!

 

That is what it has been since: 5000 - 7000 IU a day, no exceptions. About two weeks later I got tested a third time -- my level had just managed to creep up over the bottom end of the reference range at 82 nmol/L. It has probably gone up some since then -- I will get another test in the spring to see how things look.

 

It has been three (3) months. Things are lovely. Here's what I have learned:

 

 

• You are probably erring on the low side. Don't be afraid of this stuff -- even at very large doses, it can take months to reach toxic levels.
• Get tested. Don't grope in the dark, don't guess. I will bet money: if you have acne, your level will be low, low, low. The worse your acne, the lower your level is likely to be. For our American friends: spend the money on the test - your health is worth it. Get a 25-hydroxy vitamin D test, and make sure your doctor uses a reputable lab.
• The liquid form from any reputable supplier is better than any tablet. This is a fat-soluble vitamin, and in the dry form it just doesn't get absorbed very well. If you've been chronically unwell, your ability to absorb the stuff is probably also impaired. Best way: liquid form, in an oil suspension, on a teaspoon placed under the tongue and sucked clean.
• Doses of up to 10,000 IU a day are safe over the long term. Anybody who tells you otherwise doesn't know what they are talking about. If your doctor gives you any static, he's working with old information: find a different doctor. (For more information, you can check out this website: www.grassrootshealth.net)

Having said that, the vitamin D alone won't necessarily fix the problem. Here are the other things you need to know:

 

 

• Acne is fundamentally an immune system problem. Vitamin D regulates the production of cathelicidins, which are a kind of antibiotic the body naturally produces (that is one way that vitamin D helps here, but likely not the only way).
• Vitamin A in larger doses dries mucus membranes out. All other things being equal, this is desirable in somebody with acne, but all things are not equal here. In my case, I discovered rather by accident that my high vitamin A intake was actually making the problem worse (probably because it results in harder, drier sebaceous secretions). I began taking the halibut liver oil supplement again after I had started the vitamin D drops, since the amount of D in them was relatively little compared with the drops. I had a templar acne outbreak which resolved as soon as I withdrew the A. A is still good, it has plenty of other benefits -- I'd just limit it to 10,000 IU a day, max.
• Oils are your friend! Lots of good oils are part of the equation; I notice that my skin does change for the worse when I leave out the Omega 3 capsules I normally take. I take a mixed Omega 3, 4 capsules a day, with 200 EPA, 100 DHA, 25 GLA and 130 ALA per capsule. I can't be sure - I haven't tested it yet -- but I think the GLA and ALA are also important here, so try to get a formulation that includes them.
• If you have tried D at higher doses and not had too much luck, make sure you are actually absorbing it first: GET TESTED, DO NOT GUESS, DO NOT "HOPE ITS ENOUGH". If you get tested and your levels are above 125 nmol/L (50 ng/mL) and it still doesn't work (which would really surprise me) add the Omega 3 from fish oils, and be generous. Hell, take the Omega 3 and be generous anyway.
• Calcium, magnesium, and zinc are keys. Vitamin D was the "calcium hormone" first, but now we know it regulates magnesium uptake as well and may even play a role in zinc absorption. I take all of these in a citrate form, 300 mg magnesium, 600 mg calcium, and 25 mg zinc. Those might actually seem like low doses, but once you start taking vitamin D at those higher doses, your absorption of these minerals increases dramatically (dramatically enough that I noticed a difference -- pm me if you want details). I notice these also directly impact my skin health. With them, my hands are soft, my skin pliable and healthy. Without them, I'm reaching for the lotion.
• The zinc is important but I would be careful about taking 50 mg long-term, it interferes with copper absorption at those doses and then you can have other problems. Still, this is essentially safe stuff.
• Make sure you are getting enough B2 and B6. Nutritional yeast is a good source of both; B2 is safe to take in virtually any dose, keep your B6 intake below 50 mg a day. The B-50 supplements you can get at the pharmacy are usually enough.
• When in doubt, you are better off putting something (the right thing!) in your body than on your face. The problem starts within.

 

(Finally -- because some people have asked about whether this helps mood -- the answer is an unequivocal YES. If you want details, PM me.)

 

To summarize, then: vitamin D? Yes! My girlfriend is certainly convinced

 

My skin is clear clear. Not pretend clear. Not a few zits here and there. CLEAR. After frickin YEARS of putting up with this crap, and looking in vain for answers.

 

I wish you all the best of luck, and hope that my story will help someone. Feel free to ask me questions, if you have them.

 

(The usual disclaimers apply: I am not qualified to give medical advice, I take no responsibility for what you do -- but the things I say here are backed up by hard research and medical professionals )

 

 

-------

My regimen

 

Topical: A facial scrub, not even every day, and soap

 

Supplements:

vitamin D, liquid drops, 1000 IU per drop, from D Drops, 5000 - 7000 IU a day, taken sublingually

calcium citrate 600 mg

magnesium citrate 300 mg

zinc citrate 25 mg

B2 250 mg sustained release

B6 25 mg

B12 1000 mcg

Omega 3, 4 capsules (200 mg EPA, 100 mg DHA, 25 mg GLA, 130 mg ALA, all per capsule)

vitamin C, 2000 mg

 

Diet: I do not eat garbage. No deep-fried foods, lots of variety. Say hello to your veggies

hey rhombus,

youu mentioned it cleared you up.....but what about oil wise?

some people's acne are not based on solely bacterial infections etc...if thats the case then i ll buy vitamin d can cure alll acne....

but like most people who resort to accutaneas their only solution....their acne is caused by extremely oily skin.

some might say , some of us are naturally oily...i think thats BS...everyone can strike a balance....we did not come out excessively secreting sebum....

anyways, ay i know did you have mild/moderate acne?...and did you have oily skin...

P.S.i am not doubting vitamin d as a cure....but am doubting vitamin d as a vitamin to prevent your sebaceous glands from producing excessive oil....

REBEL...

and others who are reading this.....has vitamin D helped your oily skin.....?

20,000 of D3? How in the hell? Wouldn't that be taking like 20 tablets of it?

20,000 of D3? How in the hell? Wouldn't that be taking like 20 tablets of it?

Try 20 drops of liquid. A fraction of a millilitre.

You shouldn't be bothering with the tablets anyway. Unless you take it with a liquid fat, you won't absorb it.

Hi Rebel,

hey rhombus,

youu mentioned it cleared you up.....but what about oil wise?

some people's acne are not based on solely bacterial infections etc...if thats the case then i ll buy vitamin d can cure alll acne....

but like most people who resort to accutaneas their only solution....their acne is caused by extremely oily skin.

There is no medical evidence to support this assertion.

Acne -- in all cases, except perhaps for chloracne caused by poisons -- is bacterial in nature. Because it is sometimes difficult to treat, all kinds of unsupported notions have built up around the treatments that have helped improve symptoms in some people.

For example, we say that oily, dirty skin causes acne. If this were the case, we would see acne in anybody with oily, dirty skin, and that isn't the case. Acne is rare in South Asia, and South Asians have skin that is both plenty oily and they live in environments that are plenty dirty.

The "dirt" hypothesis also doesn't explain cystic acne, which begins deep in the dermis in zones not exposed to air.

What may help explain both cystic and classic acne is uncontrolled proliferation of cells and poor tissue differentiation, and vitamin D insufficiency has been directly linked to both. Supplementing vitamin D suppresses cell proliferation and restores differentiation. (It is this mechanism that is believed to play a role in the anti-cancer effect of vitamin D.)

The skin needs to be lubricated. Accutane dries out the skin. For the fortunate ones for whom Accutane works (there are plenty for whom it does not), they trade the misery of acne for the problems of dry, cracked and red skin. Is that a solution?

My biggest frustration with the way acne is treated today is that most of the treatments just plain suck. Even the ones that help don't eliminate the problem completely. And nobody has been able to answer the fundamental question of why some people get it, but others don't.

I am not suggesting that vitamin D is a cure. There are certainly multiple factors -- but it is a big piece of the puzzle, and it was what finally fixed the problem for me. The effect was so dramatic it is almost ridiculous.

My acne was mild to moderate. I had occasional cystic acne. I was fortunate in that I did not have any serious scarring.

Anyway -- oil is not the problem. Yes, at 18, your skin is going to be oilier, but as I've already said, some people have super-oily skin and never get acne -- because they have strong cellular immunity and good skin integrity, for whatever reasons.

If you fix those things, you won't care about your oily skin anymore, trust me.

Hi Rebel,

 

hey rhombus,

youu mentioned it cleared you up.....but what about oil wise?

some people's acne are not based on solely bacterial infections etc...if thats the case then i ll buy vitamin d can cure alll acne....

but like most people who resort to accutaneas their only solution....their acne is caused by extremely oily skin.

 

There is no medical evidence to support this assertion.

 

Acne -- in all cases, except perhaps for chloracne caused by poisons -- is bacterial in nature. Because it is sometimes difficult to treat, all kinds of unsupported notions have built up around the treatments that have helped improve symptoms in some people.

 

For example, we say that oily, dirty skin causes acne. If this were the case, we would see acne in anybody with oily, dirty skin, and that isn't the case. Acne is rare in South Asia, and South Asians have skin that is both plenty oily and they live in environments that are plenty dirty.

 

Hey rombus,

I do not agree on the whole with you... I live in south Asia... And believe me, I have first hand exp of what detrimntal effects oily skin can cause... Firstly, you say most south Asians don't have acne despite oily skin.... The oily skin u see is due to heat and it does cause acne.... Bumps tiny that you don't see from afar or just shrug it off.... For example... If yu have oily skin... The dumbest thing to do would be to put makeup... It clogs the pore leading to acne.... South Asians who wear make ip don't have oily akin otherwise their makeup would turn a different sluggish colour...

you mentioned immunity, I can say yes that is a hell o a gift to have... Say no more acne, aye.... But oily skin.... Due to the fact that you have oily skin.... You d probably have oily scalp.... And fact is 99% of hair loss caused by oily scalp....... I suppos you are female, so in terms of oily scalp, they are able to deal with due to the length and thick nature of hair o cover up and notice only when it's too late.... Males on other hand likely to instantly suffer the problems of oily scalp.... If you google, you d see some people celebrities with oily hair but not a single loss of hair... But did you know they mantain it with acetal medicated shampoos to unclog sebum issues etc...

I ve read several books that all come to the conclusion that a perfect human( in my eyes) is one that can keep all thong valuable without the need to medicate.... Because the body functions excellently.... Eg: if someone has never experienced digestive probs, acne ,hair loss.... Etc though rare is perfect in nature.... But using products to maintain , makes you a slave...

P.s. I Am not trying to argue or deny your views... But rather discuss my views ...

Would love to hear yr opinions

cheers

REBEL

 

The "dirt" hypothesis also doesn't explain cystic acne, which begins deep in the dermis in zones not exposed to air.

 

What may help explain both cystic and classic acne is uncontrolled proliferation of cells and poor tissue differentiation, and vitamin D insufficiency has been directly linked to both. Supplementing vitamin D suppresses cell proliferation and restores differentiation. (It is this mechanism that is believed to play a role in the anti-cancer effect of vitamin D.)

 

The skin needs to be lubricated. Accutane dries out the skin. For the fortunate ones for whom Accutane works (there are plenty for whom it does not), they trade the misery of acne for the problems of dry, cracked and red skin. Is that a solution?

 

My biggest frustration with the way acne is treated today is that most of the treatments just plain suck. Even the ones that help don't eliminate the problem completely. And nobody has been able to answer the fundamental question of why some people get it, but others don't.

 

I am not suggesting that vitamin D is a cure. There are certainly multiple factors -- but it is a big piece of the puzzle, and it was what finally fixed the problem for me. The effect was so dramatic it is almost ridiculous.

 

My acne was mild to moderate. I had occasional cystic acne. I was fortunate in that I did not have any serious scarring.

 

Anyway -- oil is not the problem. Yes, at 18, your skin is going to be oilier, but as I've already said, some people have super-oily skin and never get acne -- because they have strong cellular immunity and good skin integrity, for whatever reasons.

 

If you fix those things, you won't care about your oily skin anymore, trust me.

 

I take 10,000 IU a day of D3... only 1 tablet..

I take 10,000 IU a day of D3... only 1 tablet..

Too much, mabye you are hurting your kidney

I take 10,000 IU a day of D3... only 1 tablet..

 

Too much, mabye you are hurting your kidney

 

actually more of the livers. its a fat soluble vitamin which gets processed by the liver. water soluble vitamins get processed by the kidneys. however, there are exclusive to either the liver or the kidneys.

also. pictures or didnt happen.

20,000 of D3? How in the hell? Wouldn't that be taking like 20 tablets of it?

 

Try 20 drops of liquid. A fraction of a millilitre.

 

You shouldn't be bothering with the tablets anyway. Unless you take it with a liquid fat, you won't absorb it.

 

Wait, what? You take a liquid form of D3?

Lol... 10,000 IU of D3 a day is NOT too much. What, are you some sort of doctor? Didn't think so.

Please read:

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Here's the vitamin:

http://www.vitacost.com/NSI-Vitamin-D3-as-...IU-365-Capsules

I take 10,000 IU a day of D3... only 1 tablet..

I wasn't aware that it is available in 10,000 IU tablets. (I just looked and see that they are capsules, but this is still a dry form.)

You don't mention whether it works for you, or whether you have had your vitamin D levels tested. Have you?

The absorption of "dry" forms of vitamin D (tablets) has been evaluated, and it is generally poorer than for liquid suspension. As vitamin D is fat-soluble, fat must be present in the gut to maximize the absorption.

I take 10,000 IU a day of D3... only 1 tablet..

 

Too much, mabye you are hurting your kidney

 

 

 

actually more of the livers. its a fat soluble vitamin which gets processed by the liver. water soluble vitamins get processed by the kidneys. however, there are exclusive to either the liver or the kidneys.

 

Careful. That's not strictly true.

First, the mere fact of being fat-soluble does not automatically mean that a substance is only metabolized in the liver, and second, vitamin D is metabolized throughout the body. In particular, it is hydroxylated in the kidney into 1,25-dihydroxycholecalciferol. Large amounts of vitamin D can stress the kidneys.

Having said that -

10,000 IU is very well tolerated and is a very safe dose.