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(@karma89)

Posted : 11/17/2008 2:18 am

As far as the natural oils go, I actually only did it AFTER my flaking period subsided. Like I literally walked around with TERRIBLE flaking for 1.5 weeks, and then right as it was subsiding, I started using olive oil. O.O is known to give you radiant skin, and I can't tell you guys how smooth my skin looks. I do have red marks but scars fade over time so that doesnt worry me as much as the pimples. Seriously, if I have one or two pimples I dont really care, I just dont want big cystic type pimples like I used to get once in a while back in the day. Whiteheads and pustules go away fast so I dont mind them much.

 

 

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(@adam08)

Posted : 11/17/2008 3:34 am

As far as the natural oils go, I actually only did it AFTER my flaking period subsided. Like I literally walked around with TERRIBLE flaking for 1.5 weeks, and then right as it was subsiding, I started using olive oil. O.O is known to give you radiant skin, and I can't tell you guys how smooth my skin looks. I do have red marks but scars fade over time so that doesnt worry me as much as the pimples. Seriously, if I have one or two pimples I dont really care, I just dont want big cystic type pimples like I used to get once in a while back in the day. Whiteheads and pustules go away fast so I dont mind them much.

 

yeh i like your approach

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Posted : 11/18/2008 11:14 am

hmmmm im kinda having a problem, ive been on this method for maybe 2 weeks now. I thionk i need a better diet including this method. Im still on the flakyness phase!! it went away like 2 days ago but now it came back because i got these 2 pimples ( which feels more rare now because of this method ;)) So im flaking again!! The other day i was working and i got soaked by a major rain shower! and didnt wash or anythin after that, i noticed it was after that day i started breaking out =( before taht rain shower i hadnt showered in like 1 1/2 weeks hahaha But only because i dont stink!

 

But overall i cant wait to show my results with this method it really works

can u explain to me a little mrope about the paileo diet adam?

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Posted : 11/18/2008 1:59 pm

hmmmm im kinda having a problem, ive been on this method for maybe 2 weeks now. I thionk i need a better diet including this method. Im still on the flakyness phase!! it went away like 2 days ago but now it came back because i got these 2 pimples ( which feels more rare now because of this method ;)) So im flaking again!! The other day i was working and i got soaked by a major rain shower! and didnt wash or anythin after that, i noticed it was after that day i started breaking out =( before taht rain shower i hadnt showered in like 1 1/2 weeks hahaha But only because i dont stink!

 

But overall i cant wait to show my results with this method it really works

can u explain to me a little mrope about the paileo diet adam?

 

 

if you've noticed a lot of improvement i wouldnt worry too much about the diet. i mean for me i didnt breakt out once, and still yet to, and i ate tasty junk for about 3 weeks whilst doing this. however, i would recommend to drop the dairy (esp milk) if you havent done so already. for me, thats a given. but yeh im doing paleo for general health so its basically: meat (ideally lean), fish, vegetables, fruit and nuts (good nuts - not cashews or peanuts). i do eat some decent bread from time to time when im low on stock of food haah. i know what you mean about the flakes. after two weeks, i thought they were gone! but they came back after 3 weeks! bit frustrating but whatever. the way i see it is that the flakeage is just fluctuating in the short run but over time it is subsiding. i still have some flakeage at the moment to be honest but much less than before. so blossom, you doing no water at all??? ive been doing that for a while now..not sure how long. i prefer nothing to water only

 

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(@tom333)

Posted : 11/18/2008 5:32 pm

 

I just started and am on day 2. I just want to get things straight, after 10 days or so I should do a quick wash with water, right? And then continue to wash every two days, or what?

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Posted : 11/18/2008 8:20 pm

yep I am doing no water at all except once in a while a shower on my body only but no water at face ever haha I'm dirty!!! Oh well its working for the most part.

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Posted : 11/18/2008 11:44 pm

Please allow me to raise some issues.

 

Firstly, what was the average life expectancy of cavemen? Not very long I think, they probably got sick, and more importantly, they probably got Acne, and even more importantly, they probably died by age 15 - age 20. If you look at the Wikipedia, the first recorded history of Acne was in Ancient Egypt, and there have been skin disorders for thousands of years, all throughout ancient history.

 

Secondly, how does this explain back and chest Acne? It does not, except for the fact that run-off from shampoos, hair styling products and the like could perhaps irritate the skin, causing inflammation, causing Acne. Pomade acne is probably due to things like this: http://www.skincarephysicians.com/acnenet/pomadeacne.html , but this perhaps does not explain back and chest Acne.

 

Thirdly, this has nothing to do with some people's Acne --> look up Chloracne for 1, that is due to systemic poisoning (not topically related), but the key to it seems to be retinoid disturbance. Acne can occur when there is Retinoid (Vitamin A) disturbance, something that happens when you get poisoned, obviously - http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7923954 . There is chlorine in most shower / tap water, and there is this thing called "ChlorAcne", which is disturbing to me, especially according to this link: http://ezinearticles.com/?Dry-Skin-and-Acn...&id=1619822 . Polycyclic Aromatic Hydrocarbon's (of which dioxin seems to be associated with) seem also to be in air pollution from car exhausts etc... (You will need to wash those off your face with pure water).

 

Using water only (or even avoiding water cleansing itself) is still only a "piece of the pie" when it comes to the multi-faceted and complex processes which need to be addressed when there is Acne. There is a difference between pure lake / ocean water and tap water that you shower with, so do not go getting water-phobic.

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(@adam08)

Posted : 11/19/2008 2:43 am

Using water only (or even avoiding water cleansing itself) is still only a "piece of the pie" when it comes to the multi-faceted and complex processes which need to be addressed when there is Acne.

 

i agree with you. i think ive already eaten the other pieces though

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(@xquis3t)

Posted : 11/19/2008 4:30 am

You think? For your sake, I do hope you are right about having addressed all the other necessary factors to having good skin clarity.

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(@adam08)

Posted : 11/19/2008 6:32 am

You think? For your sake, I do hope you are right about having addressed all the other necessary factors to having good skin clarity.

 

actually i take back what i said before. i only think that all of these factors affected my skin because it was damaged. not initially of course..something else caused the first couple of spots etc

 

edit: i say this because my skin has never been oily. doesnt that strike you as a little bit odd?

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Posted : 11/19/2008 8:44 am

It might strike some people as being odd, but not me. Some people have reportedly healed their acne completely and still had oily skin. People taking Accutane whose sebum production returns once their Acne is gone, do not get Acne just because of that.

 

It is those first couple of spots isn't it? They are the ones that we never should have gone all-out with salicylic acid, benzoyl peroxide and the rest of it, to try and fix, they probably would have gone away, but now we went and damaged our skin heaps!

 

We either over-reacted and damaged our skin, or got poisoned.

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(@karma89)

Posted : 11/19/2008 3:02 pm

Wow, wierd. I've actually been thinking recently that my chronic bouts with dry skin are due to the excessively chlorinated water in my area. I'm living off campus in university right now, and my area is KNOWN for being highly chlorinated. So, despite not using any topicals on my face, and only using water, I'm still fighting with dry skin. It's not even flaking so much anymore, just a tight, dry feeling. It has nothing to do with the olive oil (which I'm only doing every other day for the moment), but I'm convinced its because of the chlorine. I'm actually naturally allergic to chlorine, because I used to get sick almost every time after I used to go swimming in a cholorinated pool when I was younger.

 

I'm probably going to buy a shower filter...I have one at homee actually, but I haven't really thought about my dry skin problems there because I'm always busy with one thing or another. How much do they cost??

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Posted : 11/19/2008 3:29 pm

Wow, wierd. I've actually been thinking recently that my chronic bouts with dry skin are due to the excessively chlorinated water in my area. I'm living off campus in university right now, and my area is KNOWN for being highly chlorinated. So, despite not using any topicals on my face, and only using water, I'm still fighting with dry skin. It's not even flaking so much anymore, just a tight, dry feeling. It has nothing to do with the olive oil (which I'm only doing every other day for the moment), but I'm convinced its because of the chlorine. I'm actually naturally allergic to chlorine, because I used to get sick almost every time after I used to go swimming in a cholorinated pool when I was younger.

 

I'm probably going to buy a shower filter...I have one at homee actually, but I haven't really thought about my dry skin problems there because I'm always busy with one thing or another. How much do they cost??

 

dropping the water makes a big difference

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Posted : 11/19/2008 5:39 pm

I actually might drop the water, but, do you think I'll have to go thru that excessive flaking period again? Also, I remember I did "no water" for like 3 days in early september and got like excessive blackheads on my nose and I NEVERRRRRRRRR get blackheads, so that was really wierd.

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Posted : 11/19/2008 5:57 pm

I actually might drop the water, but, do you think I'll have to go thru that excessive flaking period again? Also, I remember I did "no water" for like 3 days in early september and got like excessive blackheads on my nose and I NEVERRRRRRRRR get blackheads, so that was really wierd.

 

im not sure to be honest

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(@tom333)

Posted : 11/19/2008 6:08 pm

I'm on day 3 and my face literally looks diseased. There are big rash-like, almost scaly spots on my face and on some of my red marks. The breakouts I had and have gotten(only a few) the past couple days are dried up and look really nasty. This is prolly the worst my face has ever looked. I think and hope my face is just healing. Is this normal?

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Posted : 11/19/2008 6:13 pm

I'm on day 3 and my face literally looks diseased. There are big rash-like, almost scaly spots on my face and on some of my red marks. The breakouts I had and have gotten(only a few) the past couple days are dried up and look really nasty. This is prolly the worst my face has ever looked. I think and hope my face is just healing. Is this normal?

 

see my earlier post on the first page i think. i had the same thing at days3/4

 

 

 

i had blotchy rash like skin

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Posted : 11/22/2008 12:55 am

my skin actually looks like its rebuilding itself.

 

so far it has cleared me right up, and now its targeting the very few red marks. i know because of the dead skin accumulation on my right cheek.

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Posted : 11/22/2008 7:01 pm

damn these flakes are stubborn. My chin has become a bit more flakey recently. im considering bringing back some water like every 3 days or so but i dont know what to do. im not sure whether to stick with doing nothing or using some water. alexalmighty and waterwater both used some water but every few days or so after the intial 10 days of nothing. hmmm im considering doing that because when i was clear and my skin was normal, i did let the water in the shower touch my face. but i have doubts about the water only approach because my forehead is not flakey at all at the moment (becasue cleansers/topcials have never touched it) and im not even sure if applying water to your face even provides moisture?? doesnt it just take off some natural oils?? alexalmighty said in his thread that he noticed that the dead skin has gone away after 40 days. i find that a bit discouraging because im up to the 42 day mark. however, the last few weeks i havent applied any water to my face. he didnt do that. i reckon i'll stick with the nothing approach for another few days and see how the flakes turn out. btw acne/pimples etc havent been a concern for a while now because doing nothing literally stopped it in its tracks.

 

edit: i guess the flakes are annoying me more now because my exams are done and i have all these events on..oh well guess i'll have to remain strong

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Posted : 11/22/2008 8:50 pm

 

So since splashing water on your face after the first week or so, water hasn't touched your face since?

 

Also, can you post some pics to show the severity of your flakes?

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Posted : 11/23/2008 4:08 pm

I started to get 1-2 pimples when i was about 16or17 the common thing at that age (I'm now 20 since last month), and my mom automatically sent me to the dermo :( I remember to this day mentally I didn't think I needed it since it was minor, but being that age you aren't really educated enough and have the assumption that "OKAY THE DERMOS KNOW WHAT TO DO" wrong! I have used tazorac, differin (both didnt do anything but probably make it worse) Then last year before entering college my mom sends me to the dermotologist again (even though still it was pretty mild) They give me Benzaclin and i forget the one for the night... i know way too much right!?!? for not serious acne also. Well that did the job BUT it took many months to see it and i remember every day being mentally aware of 'oh no i have a pimple there or here'. Well ever since then I really believe mentally that I am clear. I can feel my body has matured so much and I shouldn't have this any longer. None of my relatives have it and I believe my brother had a few probably like me, but it went away without him going to the dermos and by simply just washin with something not as harsh for a period of short time. Earlier in this semester I grew very frustrated that still it wasn't completely gone while using BP and such. It is time! No more yesterday, no more last year. This is going to be my final solution, that is it Let the healing begin!

 

It has been over 35 hours since my final and last BP application ever.

 

P.S. I believe i am so mentally strong now regarless of if I have a pimple here and there simply because of a thing called EFT. YouTube it and DO IT! Having acne can really destroy your confidence, but this seriously brings out all of the emotions that goes with it an neutralizes them. PLEASE TRY IT. It's so simple and seriously changes lives! When you feel good, your body reacts and great things happen! When you are stressed your body knows something isn't right and does all that is needed to correct it. Peace and i'll update with my progress to being clear. Love you all.

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Posted : 11/23/2008 4:21 pm

One more thing that I would like to add as to why this will work. At about 18 I began to get a pimple here and there on my chest and upper back. Since then I didn't care much about it, no feelings no emotions and bam none no more since and I never put anything on it. I suggest who ever does this be mentally strong and beautiful things will happen. THANKS ADAM08

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Posted : 11/24/2008 1:26 pm

DAY 3: WOW is all I can say! No new breakouts/pimples. Old one's are now scabs. My skin tone is appearing normal again, and my face isn't as oily too! I am starting to see flakes on my chin area (the place where usually breakouts occur for me). OMG I am so excited and I will update in a couple days for anyone reading this :)

 

...just taking it one day at a time like everything in life

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Posted : 11/24/2008 3:15 pm

Being as gentle as possible is the key to healing acne. I would rinse my face once every time I took a shower in cold water (I take ice cold showers- word has it you live longer ;)) Now I'm putting aloe vera on my skin and rinsing it in the morning and it's a little flaky and dry but no break outs. I will probably get used to adjusting to this routine.

 

One thing I warn you guys about in not even rinsing is that your pores will without a doubt become more filled with dead skin cells be it clogging or not and this will either cause lots of blackheads that cause very large pores or enlarged pores that need cleaned. It is a good idea to pay close attention to your skin up close so you can see inside your pores. I would recommend exfoliating just once a week and adding aloe vera to that. I say this because I do know that not washing works, but I also know little details like the above mentioned that I didn't know before and my pores may have suffered for it.

 

You might not notice it now but underneath your upper layer of skin your pores are probably crying.

 

Other than this, I'm totally with you guys. Cleansers are a thing of the past. My face used to look like I smothered it in cooking oil. Everyday I would scrub it raw with proactive and it was terrible looking. Even when I stopped I tried other cleansers, even regular bars soaps (which were awful), and I finally just said screw it, I'm going to see what happens when I stop. My skin had a light sheen when I did, til I began a better diet, and then it completely disappeared. I'm literally thankful when my skin is dry.

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Posted : 11/24/2008 3:56 pm

Being as gentle as possible is the key to healing acne. I would rinse my face once every time I took a shower in cold water (I take ice cold showers- word has it you live longer ;)) Now I'm putting aloe vera on my skin and rinsing it in the morning and it's a little flaky and dry but no break outs. I will probably get used to adjusting to this routine.

 

One thing I warn you guys about in not even rinsing is that your pores will without a doubt become more filled with dead skin cells be it clogging or not and this will either cause lots of blackheads that cause very large pores or enlarged pores that need cleaned. It is a good idea to pay close attention to your skin up close so you can see inside your pores. I would recommend exfoliating just once a week and adding aloe vera to that. I say this because I do know that not washing works, but I also know little details like the above mentioned that I didn't know before and my pores may have suffered for it.

 

You might not notice it now but underneath your upper layer of skin your pores are probably crying.

 

Other than this, I'm totally with you guys. Cleansers are a thing of the past. My face used to look like I smothered it in cooking oil. Everyday I would scrub it raw with proactive and it was terrible looking. Even when I stopped I tried other cleansers, even regular bars soaps (which were awful), and I finally just said screw it, I'm going to see what happens when I stop. My skin had a light sheen when I did, til I began a better diet, and then it completely disappeared. I'm literally thankful when my skin is dry.

 

thanks for the heads up, but i like Adam08 have all of the faith in my skin that it will do all that it needs to do to be normal again. My pimples were hormonal at age 17 and I put chemicals and shit on my entire face which has killed the protection that everyone who doesn't get pimples has. Exfoliating I believe will just disrupt the healing process. I will probably rinse it next weekend for a little bit though. It needs to neutralize until then all by itself. We humans are more powerful than you may have ever thought. :)

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