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who here has seen success by letting water touch their face 1X a day like me? Rather than avoiding water all-together when I take my daily shower I have resorted to my younger days when I had no conscience at all of "washing my face". I simply let the water trickle down my face when I shower now.
I let water touch my face usually twice a day and I am doing great!
i wash with water everyday, put a moisturizer on and my skin has never been better..
my regime,
Morning:
wash with cold water
olay spf 15 moisturizer
night:
Wash with cold water
Aveeno ultra calming night cream OR (i switch off every other night) Aloe vera Gel
for all you guys having problems wiht flaking this might be your solution. This regime is working great for me so i suggest you guys try this.
I am still going to stick with my stance against even moisturizer.
HOWEVER... I live in southeast Texas. For example today (December 27th, we had 92% humidity). Moisturizer is not really needed here. If you lived in Michigan or something north, I could understand the possibility of moisturizer helping.
I guess, i do live in new york and it is very cold.
Hey snow what do you do about shaving? I think this will work with me but shaving seems to irritate my skin. I use a simple razor you buy in those packs and the ultrasensitive shaving cream. Should I buy a electric one? Also I think washing your face before you go to bed is good cause I know most people who have clear skin at least do that.
And as far as the moisturizer, I have had dry skin and excema all my life...Do you think it's still a good idea to moisturize since I did it before I had acne? My story sounds a lot like the people here. I used to just get some acne and only on my forehead, but then I got really stressed about transferring to this one school and started all these different treatments like you...I've had acne for a year and a half and probably done 15 different treatments, ranging from proactive and other topicals to sea salt, aloe vera and even urine therapy.
Hey snow what do you do about shaving?
Well you decide whether or not you think it is irritating you. I use an electric razor.
I have followed this regimen for about 3 days now and it's going great..I have one problem though, I use to train and sweat alot.. what should I do now? simply not wash my face in the shower after and let the sweat dry on my face?
I would suggest doing whatever you would normally do if you did not have acne. In my case, when I am working out, I frequently dab my face with a towel to wipe off the sweat and then shower when I get home.
Day 9 of just letting water hit my face in the shower for me, and I'm seeing absolutely no improvement. What's the average time-period you guys have been seeing results?
You should find a thread specifically geared toward water only regime, just as some others that have been posting, cuz this thread that was started by Adam is a 'do nothing' approach for as long as you can stand to do nothing -- not even water. That is because this regime is suposed to help heal your acid mantle layer of your skin and give you back the protection that has been damaged by all the acne products. Water has bacteria in it, even clean water does -- that bacteria isn't harmful to most people but those of us with damaged acid mantle even clean water can be irritating -- which any irritation to your skin can cause you to break out.
The improvement seen by others doing this is very different, so there isn't an average number of days or weeks anyone can really give you. Plus the improvement comes and goes because most say they still do get acne but it is far milder than before --- like the pimples are smaller and don't stick around as long. You have ta commit to doing nothing for your face for about 3-6 weeks I think before feeling like this is helping or not ... depending on how damaged your acid mantle is.
A guy named 'Snow' will tell you this was an instant fix for him and to use a 'mind clearing technique' where you don't even think about acne (which I think could help in theory)... but he is on this board posting all the time so I'm not sure he using that technique himself he likes to preach about (sorry Snow I, I'm not tryin ta be mean but you do say that a lot but since you are posting here I have to assume you are still thinking about acne at least a little).
tngirl- i think snow is more or less just trying to help other people out with this method, which is better than waterwater and some of the other pioneers who had success and left everybody else hanging ya know?
helping is good, except when you say something is working when you are not really doing it. I love the do nothing/water only method idea but I don't misrepresent myself by saying that it is working for me. I like the not thinking about acne idea also, but he is thinking about it when posting on this board (a lot) -- that is a hard one to get around I know ... but it's going against his own regime by trying to help in this particular situation ... good intentions I'm sure.
tngirl- i think snow is more or less just trying to help other people out with this method, which is better than waterwater and some of the other pioneers who had success and left everybody else hanging ya know?
helping is good, except when you say something is working when you are not really doing it. I love the do nothing/water only method idea but I don't misrepresent myself by saying that it is working for me. I like the not thinking about acne idea also, but he is thinking about it when posting on this board (a lot) -- that is a hard one to get around I know ... but it's going against his own regime by trying to help in this particular situation ... good intentions I'm sure.
How dare you accuse me of that? Should I post pictures of myself? I am totally clear. I am here to help others. Click on my name, and see my posts and look for the last time I typed up any questions for help.
I ask for people to stop thinking about it as a "problem" and to stop worrying. I have seen how well this works, so I attempt to spread that word.
You can not just "forget" completely about acne. I ask that you stop CARING about it. If I suggested that you completely not think about it, that would mean avoiding people in life that have acne. This is not the way to go.
I am still here because this forum gave me so much knowledge, so I am here to give back. I see that there are people who are teetering on the edge of taking the "letting go" approach to acne and all they need is a little nudge from me.
I am here to give help and support just as it was given to me in my worst of times in regards to acne.
I ask you to please edit and remove your negative comments about me.
If this is the type of feedback I am going to get, I will gladly leave this forum.
SNow...yes..i sincerely believe you are trying to help people. It is possible, once someone has truly let something go, to reference to it without personal affliction. However, while i do understand also why TNgirl brought up the point she did, i believe you also. before reading any of your posts i started doing the same thing recently...saying, screw this, i give up. I have acne, and theres nothing i can do about it. the immediate results from this were happiness and relaxation that i had not experienced in forever. I even started seeing myself as beautiful with acne! It has allowed me to isolate myself from the worlds standards of beauty...and guess what...slowly but surely my acne, while not disappeared, within a matter of DAYS has gotten better. And my acne was bad, not quite cystic, but overbearing on my complexion. Now i can continue treatments without the obsessive mindset i once had. and by treatments i do NOT mean those that are topical prescriptions...i mean natural masks, baking soda to cleanse the face, vinegar, exc. (BTW...dont just try any of these randomly together. it is a regiment that can be found in the section about how to get rid of red marks posted by delna. It works great as an acne treatment too. This regimen restores naturally your normal, healthy Ph levels also. Point is....letting go of it al is good.....go on a mental vacation. it does help mentally, and physcially with the acne. But i see nothing wrong with integrating natural, non harsh, GENTLE products. Everything has potential to be either good or bad, just depends on it's use. Moderation is best. Some people may have such severe acne that whil this, and other natural remedies may help clear them up some, the best next step is to use topical things such as retinoid, VERY SPARINGLY. There is no one answer to this problem, but this is definetely the most basic, and healthiest solution ive come upon on these posts yet.
It really is such a relief to get out of the shower, and not think about applying junk to the face.
No longer do I check out my face in mirrors constantly. No longer do I get out of bed in the morning and head strait to the mirror to check my face.
I will say it again. If the general consensus is that I am "lying" about my success, I will gladly leave and just continue to help the people I meet in college that feel lost with acne.
It seems odd to me that my generosity has spawned such a response from TNgirl.
I once read a post that was made my Adam himself that remarked at how all the people who had discovered this method had "disappeared" from the forums since they no longer had a need to be here. I have tried to do the opposite and remain to give my advice to those in the struggle. However, I will not put up with people calling me a fraud just because I am out to help more than just myself.
tngirl- i think snow is more or less just trying to help other people out with this method, which is better than waterwater and some of the other pioneers who had success and left everybody else hanging ya know?
helping is good, except when you say something is working when you are not really doing it. I love the do nothing/water only method idea but I don't misrepresent myself by saying that it is working for me. I like the not thinking about acne idea also, but he is thinking about it when posting on this board (a lot) -- that is a hard one to get around I know ... but it's going against his own regime by trying to help in this particular situation ... good intentions I'm sure.
How dare you accuse me of that? Should I post pictures of myself? I am totally clear. I am here to help others. Click on my name, and see my posts and look for the last time I typed up any questions for help.
I ask for people to stop thinking about it as a "problem" and to stop worrying. I have seen how well this works, so I attempt to spread that word.
You can not just "forget" completely about acne. I ask that you stop CARING about it. If I suggested that you completely not think about it, that would mean avoiding people in life that have acne. This is not the way to go.
I am still here because this forum gave me so much knowledge, so I am here to give back. I see that there are people who are teetering on the edge of taking the "letting go" approach to acne and all they need is a little nudge from me.
I am here to give help and support just as it was given to me in my worst of times in regards to acne.
I ask you to please edit and remove your negative comments about me.
If this is the type of feedback I am going to get, I will gladly leave this forum.
no need ta get defensive, I did say I'm sure u have good intentions. its just I didn't feel u could claim to not be worrying about acne when u are clearly passionate about 'spreading the word' and helping people with acne ... whether it be for u or for others. I never believed for a second u were not being authentic in believing this is the reason u have clear skin ... and I'm sorry for offending you. I won't take back my opinions or impressions, but do apologize to you for upsetting you.
tngirl- i think snow is more or less just trying to help other people out with this method, which is better than waterwater and some of the other pioneers who had success and left everybody else hanging ya know?
helping is good, except when you say something is working when you are not really doing it. I love the do nothing/water only method idea but I don't misrepresent myself by saying that it is working for me. I like the not thinking about acne idea also, but he is thinking about it when posting on this board (a lot) -- that is a hard one to get around I know ... but it's going against his own regime by trying to help in this particular situation ... good intentions I'm sure.
How dare you accuse me of that? Should I post pictures of myself? I am totally clear. I am here to help others. Click on my name, and see my posts and look for the last time I typed up any questions for help.
I ask for people to stop thinking about it as a "problem" and to stop worrying. I have seen how well this works, so I attempt to spread that word.
You can not just "forget" completely about acne. I ask that you stop CARING about it. If I suggested that you completely not think about it, that would mean avoiding people in life that have acne. This is not the way to go.
I am still here because this forum gave me so much knowledge, so I am here to give back. I see that there are people who are teetering on the edge of taking the "letting go" approach to acne and all they need is a little nudge from me.
I am here to give help and support just as it was given to me in my worst of times in regards to acne.
I ask you to please edit and remove your negative comments about me.
If this is the type of feedback I am going to get, I will gladly leave this forum.
no need ta get defensive, I did say I'm sure u have good intentions. its just I didn't feel u could claim to not be worrying about acne when u are clearly passionate about 'spreading the word' and helping people with acne ... whether it be for u or for others. I never believed for a second u were not being authentic in believing this is the reason u have clear skin ... and I'm sorry for offending you. I won't take back my opinions or impressions, but do apologize to you for upsetting you.
You accused me of advocating something to people that I was not really doing myself. Being here does not make me worry about acne. I simply do not care one way or another about acne. Even if you will not take back what you have said, I would appreciate in the future if my hospitality was not met with hostility.
So i recently have dropped using face washes, and other products except a moisturizer because i have dry skin and my face looks much better. Snow, when in the gym do you rinse your face immediately after working out, or just let the sweat evaporate? Also do you rinse your face at night before bed, or is it best to just leave it?
I read jan_carlo's post in the General skin forum and did this regimen a long time ago, just used water. I did it for a few months and definitely saw an improvement in my skins natural look. I used to preach about this method a long time ago on these forums and made a buncha posts about it. It can be a really good method for people who have used tons of products which just made their mild but persistent acne worsen and hurt skin tone.
For people with moderate/severe acne it probably won't work unless you're in the process of "growing out" of acne. People with mild acne and red marks should try this for sure. The less irritation the better the skin tone. Also I can't stress the idea enough of staying active and eating well, these 2 things factored in make a huge difference. Sweating is actually very good for the skin in moderate amounts and personally helps my skin tone.
Unfortunately the first time I tried this regimen I ended up going back to using products after a while in an attempt to further perfect my skin, which just made things worse again..Now I'm done with them for good(sounds like a drug addict or something ha). I may also do a gentle exfoliation twice a week just to improve appearance but for now I'm giving my skin some breathing time. It's been about a week on my 2nd attempt of the water regimen and I'm seeing instant results. It's definitely worth a shot for some people.
tngirl- i think snow is more or less just trying to help other people out with this method, which is better than waterwater and some of the other pioneers who had success and left everybody else hanging ya know?
helping is good, except when you say something is working when you are not really doing it. I love the do nothing/water only method idea but I don't misrepresent myself by saying that it is working for me. I like the not thinking about acne idea also, but he is thinking about it when posting on this board (a lot) -- that is a hard one to get around I know ... but it's going against his own regime by trying to help in this particular situation ... good intentions I'm sure.
How dare you accuse me of that? Should I post pictures of myself? I am totally clear. I am here to help others. Click on my name, and see my posts and look for the last time I typed up any questions for help.
I ask for people to stop thinking about it as a "problem" and to stop worrying. I have seen how well this works, so I attempt to spread that word.
You can not just "forget" completely about acne. I ask that you stop CARING about it. If I suggested that you completely not think about it, that would mean avoiding people in life that have acne. This is not the way to go.
I am still here because this forum gave me so much knowledge, so I am here to give back. I see that there are people who are teetering on the edge of taking the "letting go" approach to acne and all they need is a little nudge from me.
I am here to give help and support just as it was given to me in my worst of times in regards to acne.
I ask you to please edit and remove your negative comments about me.
If this is the type of feedback I am going to get, I will gladly leave this forum.
no need ta get defensive, I did say I'm sure u have good intentions. its just I didn't feel u could claim to not be worrying about acne when u are clearly passionate about 'spreading the word' and helping people with acne ... whether it be for u or for others. I never believed for a second u were not being authentic in believing this is the reason u have clear skin ... and I'm sorry for offending you. I won't take back my opinions or impressions, but do apologize to you for upsetting you.
You accused me of advocating something to people that I was not really doing myself. Being here does not make me worry about acne. I simply do not care one way or another about acne. Even if you will not take back what you have said, I would appreciate in the future if my hospitality was not met with hostility.
Some pretty big drama queenery going on here. Then again, what else could we expect from a guy who randomly puts a picture of himself in a shirtless flex as an avatar?
I am Snow...i just wanted to let him know that i sincerly appreciate everything he has said. I have asked several questions directed towards him and he has answered them all back. Just wanted you to know that not everyone feels like that. your input is VERY helpful and i am thankful that you are clear yet STILL HELP OTHERS. that says something about a person- so thanks for sticking around (you too Adam!!!)
Some pretty big drama queenery going on here. Then again, what else could we expect from a guy who randomly puts a picture of himself in a shirtless flex as an avatar?
Oh yes, that does equal drama queen. 
Mike: I am glad you appreciate it. I hope things are going well for you.
Some pretty big drama queenery going on here. Then again, what else could we expect from a guy who randomly puts a picture of himself in a shirtless flex as an avatar?
Oh yes, that does equal drama queen.
Well, how else would you interpret someone threatening to quit the forum because people are not bowing down and giving them the respect that they demand? I think it is great that you have been helped by this forum, and have a desire to help others, it just seems that you are going about it with a rather odd attitude.
Well, how else would you interpret someone threatening to quit the forum because people are not bowing down and giving them the respect that they demand? I think it is great that you have been helped by this forum, and have a desire to help others, it just seems that you are going about it with a rather odd attitude.
I have not had that attitude until someone came around saying I was not even doing what I was telling people worked. Of course I am going to take offense to that.
If there is more to say, pm me or something so this thread can return to its original purpose.
Well, how else would you interpret someone threatening to quit the forum because people are not bowing down and giving them the respect that they demand? I think it is great that you have been helped by this forum, and have a desire to help others, it just seems that you are going about it with a rather odd attitude.
I have not had that attitude until someone came around saying I was not even doing what I was telling people worked. Of course I am going to take offense to that.
If there is more to say, pm me or something so this thread can return to its original purpose.
Fair enough. consider the criticsm withdrawn.
I'm about a week in on my 2nd attempt of this regimen and my skin tone is definitely returning to a more balanced state. There's absolutely no irritation and my marks are looking better and no new breakouts so far. I'm sure I'll see a few new breakouts but I can manage that as long as the marks and skin tone are healing like this.
The only problem I'm seeing is major flaking and dryness. Like really bad dryness. I've been using a moisturizer for a while. Before this I was just using water and a moisturizer and it worked alright but I still felt my skin wasn't completely "healing" and retaining moisture and natural oil like it needs to. I think it's mostly because it's winter and I naturally get dry skin in winter, even when I moisturize but now the dryness seems quite a lot worse. It must be my skin getting used to not having moisturizing products on it, I just hope it goes away and my skins oil production isn't permanently hindered.
I'm only about a week in and this regimen is a long term thing(that I definitely see working down the line) but what can I do about this dryness in the coming weeks/months? I'm a full time college student, it's hard to be seen in bright college lighting with completely dry/flaky skin. Luckily I have class off for another month. My skin feels like it's craving a very emollient moisturizer but I know I shouldn't give in because that's never been a long term solution. I just want my natural oils to be fully functional again.
Any input would be greatly appreciated. Also how long did it take people who did this to see any kind of dry/flaky skin subside?
I'm about a week in on my 2nd attempt of this regimen and my skin tone is definitely returning to a more balanced state. There's absolutely no irritation and my marks are looking better and no new breakouts so far. I'm sure I'll see a few new breakouts but I can manage that as long as the marks and skin tone are healing like this.
The only problem I'm seeing is major flaking and dryness. Like really bad dryness. I've been using a moisturizer for a while. Before this I was just using water and a moisturizer and it worked alright but I still felt my skin wasn't completely "healing" and retaining moisture and natural oil like it needs to. I think it's mostly because it's winter and I naturally get dry skin in winter, even when I moisturize but now the dryness seems quite a lot worse. It must be my skin getting used to not having moisturizing products on it, I just hope it goes away and my skins oil production isn't permanently hindered.
I'm only about a week in and this regimen is a long term thing(that I definitely see working down the line) but what can I do about this dryness in the coming weeks/months? I'm a full time college student, it's hard to be seen in bright college lighting with completely dry/flaky skin. Luckily I have class off for another month. My skin feels like it's craving a very emollient moisturizer but I know I shouldn't give in because that's never been a long term solution. I just want my natural oils to be fully functional again.
Any input would be greatly appreciated. Also how long did it take people who did this to see any kind of dry/flaky skin subside?
The largest factor in my dryness was washing my face. Washing the face dries it out because it removes the natural oils. If you are washing your face, stop doing it.