Yeah, but it's not that simple. I'll explain.

You eventually want to be 1:1 or a little over. But to get there, just by taking in 1:1 in your diet will NOT equate to 1:1 in your body. It may take wayyyy longer to get to 1:1 by eating 1:1. It's necessary to over compensate for a few months to get to that level in your body, then drop down to 1:1 in your diet. =)

But a good general amount, I've always read about 1 to 2 grams of omega 3 for general health 🙂

 

How how much do you recommend? What you said on the first page? Thanks

Also does Fish Oil help with red marks and does it tighten pores like b5? Or is Fish Oil the god of Acne and heals stuff like scars?

Has anyone found their face to be too dry? I've been getting a small amount of flakes on the left side of my face. Nothing really noticeable, but I'm sure it's because of the limited oil production the o3 is creating.

Either way, those flakes are tons better than having pimples. Rock on o3, rock on.....hehe

side effects are assiociated with OD'n, so yea 2g is fine cause your body can't make pantothenic acid anyway. I consider OD to be 8g+. Heres a tip don't take alot of pantho if its nothing oily your eating, like i would take 1 500mg if i were just having some salad and a apple or something but 1g if i were eating lunch like chicken and rice or something. just an example of what i follow.

Thanks, very helpful 😀

Has anyone found their face to be too dry? I've been getting a small amount of flakes on the left side of my face. Nothing really noticeable, but I'm sure it's because of the limited oil production the o3 is creating.

Either way, those flakes are tons better than having pimples. Rock on o3, rock on.....hehe

Yup 🙂 Without moisturizing, I would be flakey. And definitely, 100000x better than acne. My oil production kind of just stopped. I don't even need my oil absorbing sheets. It's been at least a month since I've even touched it! That's a cool feeling! But sucks that I still break out. =( But once I quit soy those break outs stop. I am just hoping it all stops for good soon.

Well thanks, I am going to make the switch. Is 1-2g of B5 ok then, not associated with the side effects seen with the mega dose?

1 to 2 grams is still a mega dose. 500 mg is a mega dose. At 500 mg, that is 5,000% daily value!, so 1 to 2 grams is 10,000 to 20,000% daily value. Much like a nuclear warhead on a germ. No godly way any human body would need anywhere close to even that much. Imagine how much pressure it's puts on excretion and the side effects that may happen.

Does anyone know if it is alright to take fish oil when taking an antibiotic? I am currently on Tetracycline and my derm said not to take any other supplaments while on this because it will work to stop the absorption of the antibiotic into my body. I asked her which ones I shouldn't take and she mainly said calcium and zinc.

Google it to find out more, but generally it is fine because it's a fat, not a vitamin. Because I imagine even if you eat fish, it is just like taking fish oil. It's essentially a capsulated fat. You will get fats from diet anyway. But just to be sure, google tetracycline and omega 3 and see what you can find. And ask him if omega 3 is okay. I don't want to give anyone misinformation :). If you want to be safe, eat natural sources of omega 3 instead like flax seeds (not the oil, just the seeds itself) or fish twice or three times a week as a meal.

1 to 2 grams is still a mega dose. 500 mg is a mega dose. At 500 mg, that is 5,000% daily value!, so 1 to 2 grams is 10,000 to 20,000% daily value. Much like a nuclear warhead on a germ. No godly way any human body would need anywhere close to even that much. Imagine how much pressure it's puts on excretion and the side effects that may happen.

very true. thats what my family doctor said, yet i ignored him anyway 😀

Personally i feel at 2g you can get away with minimal side effects that are associated with 8+ grams.

just from personal experience i based 2g is safe. don't forget biotin 5mg 😀

Yeah, but it's not that simple. I'll explain.

You eventually want to be 1:1 or a little over. But to get there, just by taking in 1:1 in your diet will NOT equate to 1:1 in your body. It may take wayyyy longer to get to 1:1 by eating 1:1. It's necessary to over compensate for a few months to get to that level in your body, then drop down to 1:1 in your diet. =)

But a good general amount, I've always read about 1 to 2 grams of omega 3 for general health 🙂

 

How how much do you recommend? What you said on the first page? Thanks

Also does Fish Oil help with red marks and does it tighten pores like b5? Or is Fish Oil the god of Acne and heals stuff like scars?

 

Yup, the first page dose is exactly what I recommend because it worked the fastest and the safest. Just follow it careful, in the sense of going up slowly, and then being consistent and also to remember it will take time to see results. It keeps building all the way up to 4 months in, and perhaps a little after. Then eventually you can drop it down too. 🙂

Fish oil helps in skin health in general as well as hormone regulation (excess androgen activity) which is primarily responsible for teenage oil production that most of us experience. Eventually when your acne stops, your blemishes will naturally heal on their own. Your skin cycle is anywhere between 2 to 4 weeks where your skin turns over, and there will go your blemishes with them.

It will not help with scars, as far as I am concerned because scars are generally pits. 🙁

I was just about to post that it seems like the oil-inhibiting effects of the Omega 3's have been wearing off lately when i read a post that NUTS eclipse what the fish oil is doing. I work at a bar and there are bowls of peanuts everywhere. I realized they're only legumes, but are they potentially bad for my oil production?

Also are there any other foods beside nuts that could be potentially bad. I thought i had this acne diet down, but more "NOs" just keep popping up. All i feel safe with are fruits, veggies, and water...

I was just about to post that it seems like the oil-inhibiting effects of the Omega 3's have been wearing off lately when i read a post that NUTS eclipse what the fish oil is doing. I work at a bar and there are bowls of peanuts everywhere. I realized they're only legumes, but are they potentially bad for my oil production?

Also are there any other foods beside nuts that could be potentially bad. I thought i had this acne diet down, but more "NOs" just keep popping up. All i feel safe with are fruits, veggies, and water... sad.gif

i think walnuts are ok 😀

Thanks alot for the help romeo but i have couple more question for you.

Did you have oily skin and after say......a couple months how much oil production was there?

And what made you start on the fish oil? Im kinda curious.

Also, is there anyway to control the burping? the smell is horrendous...

Ive tried eating gum...still doesn't stop the smell...Maybe i should eat the fish oils before a meal NOT after?

Again,

Thanks

Thanks alot for the help romeo but i have couple more question for you.

Did you have oily skin and after say......a couple months how much oil production was there?

And what made you start on the fish oil? Im kinda curious.

Also, is there anyway to control the burping? the smell is horrendous...

Ive tried eating gum...still doesn't stop the smell...Maybe i should eat the fish oils before a meal NOT after?

Again,

Thanks

I saw bob mckee's thread, which isn't here anymore, and he talked about essential fats and so I went googling and saw so much information, it was really exciting. So I continued and it got better and better :).

It sounds like you are not digesting the fats properly, or the oil is rancid. You can try taking digestive enzymes to see what happens.

Also, what brand are you using?

Has anyone found their face to be too dry? I've been getting a small amount of flakes on the left side of my face. Nothing really noticeable, but I'm sure it's because of the limited oil production the o3 is creating.

Either way, those flakes are tons better than having pimples. Rock on o3, rock on.....hehe

Yup 🙂 Without moisturizing, I would be flakey. And definitely, 100000x better than acne. My oil production kind of just stopped. I don't even need my oil absorbing sheets. It's been at least a month since I've even touched it! That's a cool feeling! But sucks that I still break out. =( But once I quit soy those break outs stop. I am just hoping it all stops for good soon.

 

I hope so too. I still don't like not being able to eat what I want when I want. lol. I was getting sick of fast food, but sometimes you need a quick bite and that's where I'd usually turn. Still, I'd rather eat like that then have acne. Red spots please go away. :pray:

NdnRomeo,

I tried googling fish oil and tetracycline, but I really didn't find anything to answer my question.

Does anyone else know if it safe to take fish oil supplaments and tetracycline?

NdnRomeo,

I tried googling fish oil and tetracycline, but I really didn't find anything to answer my question.

Does anyone else know if it safe to take fish oil supplaments and tetracycline?

Unless your Doctor told you to avoid fish whilst taking the tetracycline, then I would say it was safe. Many people seem to be classing Omega 3 as a Vitamin or a Mineral, but it isn't. It's a fat. So taking the Omega 3 capsules is in the same food category as swallowing a tablespoon of vegetable oil, or some other cooking oil. I really don't think it will have any effect on your antibiotic.

Patrick,

A while ago in this thread we had a discussion about food sensitivities. Anyway, I have been to my local sensitivity testing guy to see what he says, and also had a vitamin deficiency test, and I was a bit surprised by the results. I'll surmise them here:

Food sensitivity (mild positive):

Duck

Chicken

Egg (white)

Tuna

Prawn (although this is a dodgy results because I had prawns for lunch)

Tangerine

Wheat Bran

Wheat

Beer (boooooo!!)

Coffee

E124

E127

E132

Food sensitivity (more positive):

Sour milk (not that I would drink it)

Cow's milk

Orange

Plums

White cabbage

Considering cow's cheese and cottage cheese is ok, I did think it was odd that he mentioned cow's milk. He said something about the body absorbing things differently in different forms, but that didn't really settle with me. Also, I thought it interesting about the tangerines and oranges. I eat an orange or drink orange juice every day, but now I remember that someone else on the org had found oranges triggered their acne. Also it's seems to be the most common foods that I eat that have come up as positive. I don't know if that's related at all.

Anyway, he also did the vitamin test:

Shortages in:

Sodium

Calcium

Iron

Silicon

Zinc

Tin

Phosphorus

Boron

Vitamin B1

Vitamin B5

Vitamin H (I had my gall bladder removed so this explains this one)

Folic Acid

Vitamin C

Vitamin E

Vitamin P

I find some of these really odd. I struggle with the fact that I am short of calcium, as it's something I am keen to keep up due to osteoporosis. Also, I take a general multivitamin to help with all of these, apart from one or two which aren't included. And the Omega 3 capsules I take provide me with about 200% of the RDA of Vitamin E everyday. Which either means that the multivitamin I take is rubbish and I am not absorbing any of the vitamins from it, I am having trouble absorbing vitamins full stop, or something else is going on that I don't get. Suggestions welcome.

He suggested I supplement with the following, as well as keeping up with the Omega 3:

Lecithin granules (to aid my digestion of fats as I have no gall bladder)

Pycnogenol

Blue Green Algae

He mentioned Milk thistle as well in the beginning of the consultation. He also recommended a list of foods I should make sure are in my diet, which included a list of Omega 6 rich products. When I asked him about the Omega 3 vs 6 ratio, he said "as long as you buy eggs that have been enriched with Omega 3 or nuts from the shell it'll be fine".

Whilst I found his advice and test results are interesting, I don't think he was specifically knowledgeable about acne. It's fairly understandable really - most GP's aren't either, and he provided a whole range of other holistic therapies as well. I can't imagine there is too much work out there for a specialist holistic acne practitioner (yet!!).

I'm going to give it a good go to cut out the foods he mentioned that I tested more positive for, start bringing in some of the foods he recommended (that don't have a high Omega 6 content), and give the extra supplements a go in addition to my Omega 3. He did say that people shouldn't be taking more than 4 supplements at one time. If this shows no real improvement, I will exclude the foods that he mentioned I was less positive for.

On a side note, he did mention that tinned tuna has no Omega 3 value at all, unless it is mentioned specifically on the side. He said that by the time it reaches the customer in a tin, all the Omega 3 value has disappeared. Does anyone know what they make Fish Oil capsules out of since it now looks like I have a tuna sensitivity? He also said that we should all be using goat's products rather than cow's as it is the most similar to human milk we can find. That's why goat's milk sensitivities are extremely rare.

Anyway, I hope that's useful to you. Have you had any progress yourself with identifying any food sensitivities?

Helen

Fish oil is great I have been doing it for three months now I am no longer breaking out and my face is actually dry and doesn't get oily till I am ready to wash it at night and another plus I am gaining muscle mass easier. I saw drastic results when I switched to carlsons liquid fish oil I take two teaspoons of that as well as two omega 3 gelcaps, and several grams of vitamin C (I researched it and it is safe) for cleansing I do the oil cleansing method.

your awesome romeo everyone of your threads has helped me so much my acne was moderate severe this was my last attempt before accutane.

I was wondering if anyone has discussed how many grams of DHA/EPA to be ingesting daily per body weight? I know that the general amount discussed here is 3-4 grams - is that for a person who weighs about 150-200 lbs? What about people who weigh 100-120 lbs?

I'm copying this message to this thread from a new topic that I started mistakenly - I would love any feedback people have about this - thanks!

I started fish oil from Carlson's with 500 mg per capsule about 3-4 weeks ago with only 1 per day, then 2 per day the following week, and 3 the next, this week, 4-5 (so about 2-2.5 g) daily to be taken this week. (I'm always very conservative when starting any vitamins/supplements b/c I don't want to harm my body in any possible way).

I haven't seen any difference yet so I am going up to 2.5 this week & maybe more the following weeks; I know results could take months, not weeks.

I like reading Dr. Mercola's website for nutrition & overall health advice, and he said for cod liver oil (& I don't know how much dha/epa in these pills relative to the fish oil), but it said

"For Carlson's Cod Liver Oil Softgels with Low Vitamin A, I highly recommend taking one softgel for every ten pounds of body weight. However, do not exceed more than15 pills per day -- unless you have had your fatty acid levels tested."

http://www.mercola.com/forms/carlsons.htm

Has anyone else found other advice about grams per body weight?

Patrick,

A while ago in this thread we had a discussion about food sensitivities. Anyway, I have been to my local sensitivity testing guy to see what he says, and also had a vitamin deficiency test, and I was a bit surprised by the results. I'll surmise them here:

Food sensitivity (mild positive):

Duck

Chicken

Egg (white)

Tuna

Prawn (although this is a dodgy results because I had prawns for lunch)

Tangerine

Wheat Bran

Wheat

Beer (boooooo!!)

Coffee

E124

E127

E132

Food sensitivity (more positive):

Sour milk (not that I would drink it)

Cow's milk

Orange

Plums

White cabbage

Considering cow's cheese and cottage cheese is ok, I did think it was odd that he mentioned cow's milk. He said something about the body absorbing things differently in different forms, but that didn't really settle with me. Also, I thought it interesting about the tangerines and oranges. I eat an orange or drink orange juice every day, but now I remember that someone else on the org had found oranges triggered their acne. Also it's seems to be the most common foods that I eat that have come up as positive. I don't know if that's related at all.

Anyway, he also did the vitamin test:

Shortages in:

Sodium

Calcium

Iron

Silicon

Zinc

Tin

Phosphorus

Boron

Vitamin B1

Vitamin B5

Vitamin H (I had my gall bladder removed so this explains this one)

Folic Acid

Vitamin C

Vitamin E

Vitamin P

I find some of these really odd. I struggle with the fact that I am short of calcium, as it's something I am keen to keep up due to osteoporosis. Also, I take a general multivitamin to help with all of these, apart from one or two which aren't included. And the Omega 3 capsules I take provide me with about 200% of the RDA of Vitamin E everyday. Which either means that the multivitamin I take is rubbish and I am not absorbing any of the vitamins from it, I am having trouble absorbing vitamins full stop, or something else is going on that I don't get. Suggestions welcome.

He suggested I supplement with the following, as well as keeping up with the Omega 3:

Lecithin granules (to aid my digestion of fats as I have no gall bladder)

Pycnogenol

Blue Green Algae

He mentioned Milk thistle as well in the beginning of the consultation. He also recommended a list of foods I should make sure are in my diet, which included a list of Omega 6 rich products. When I asked him about the Omega 3 vs 6 ratio, he said "as long as you buy eggs that have been enriched with Omega 3 or nuts from the shell it'll be fine".

Whilst I found his advice and test results are interesting, I don't think he was specifically knowledgeable about acne. It's fairly understandable really - most GP's aren't either, and he provided a whole range of other holistic therapies as well. I can't imagine there is too much work out there for a specialist holistic acne practitioner (yet!!).

I'm going to give it a good go to cut out the foods he mentioned that I tested more positive for, start bringing in some of the foods he recommended (that don't have a high Omega 6 content), and give the extra supplements a go in addition to my Omega 3. He did say that people shouldn't be taking more than 4 supplements at one time. If this shows no real improvement, I will exclude the foods that he mentioned I was less positive for.

On a side note, he did mention that tinned tuna has no Omega 3 value at all, unless it is mentioned specifically on the side. He said that by the time it reaches the customer in a tin, all the Omega 3 value has disappeared. Does anyone know what they make Fish Oil capsules out of since it now looks like I have a tuna sensitivity? He also said that we should all be using goat's products rather than cow's as it is the most similar to human milk we can find. That's why goat's milk sensitivities are extremely rare.

Anyway, I hope that's useful to you. Have you had any progress yourself with identifying any food sensitivities?

Helen

Helen thanks for sharing that, that was a great read. If you take out the foods he mentioned, be sure to keep an eye on your progress, finding foods will be hard to eat and that's the hardest challenge. For me (I got a test done), no bread products came out positive at all (showed up as 0, including wheat), just all dairy and eggs, also carrots and corn (boo), which makes sense because in our ancestry, we never relied on any animal products as we were vegetarians so chicken, all dairy, and eggs showed up. So it's different for everyone.

Yes, multivitamins generally do not absorb very well. About 20% I hear, because there is just too much in there. I would try taking calcium supplements because those are pretty helpful since you are concerned and do not rely on multi's. Perhaps just rely on veggies for your vitamin needs.

Keep taking the 03's regardless of what was said, it helps us alot and no one can change my mind about that.

The goats milk makes sense, but it is veeery expensive. I stick to rice milk for now.

Yes, when I avoid all the foods I am meant to avoid, I can tell because I also have keratosis pilaris, and that goes down a lot! I am a big proponent for taking out all dairy and using calcium supplements for calcium needs because it serves no other real purpose, and it's not so good for us either.

Fish oil is great I have been doing it for three months now I am no longer breaking out and my face is actually dry and doesn't get oily till I am ready to wash it at night :dance: and another plus I am gaining muscle mass easier. I saw drastic results when I switched to carlsons liquid fish oil I take two teaspoons of that as well as two omega 3 gelcaps, and several grams of vitamin C (I researched it and it is safe) for cleansing I do the oil cleansing method.

your awesome romeo everyone of your threads has helped me so much my acne was moderate severe this was my last attempt before accutane.

Wow!! That is really great to hear! Makes me proud and happy at the same time :). I am so glad that it saved you from having to unnecessarily go on accutane! +1 for natural ways. 🙂

I was wondering if anyone has discussed how many grams of DHA/EPA to be ingesting daily per body weight? I know that the general amount discussed here is 3-4 grams - is that for a person who weighs about 150-200 lbs? What about people who weigh 100-120 lbs?

I'm copying this message to this thread from a new topic that I started mistakenly - I would love any feedback people have about this - thanks!

I started fish oil from Carlson's with 500 mg per capsule about 3-4 weeks ago with only 1 per day, then 2 per day the following week, and 3 the next, this week, 4-5 (so about 2-2.5 g) daily to be taken this week. (I'm always very conservative when starting any vitamins/supplements b/c I don't want to harm my body in any possible way).

I haven't seen any difference yet so I am going up to 2.5 this week & maybe more the following weeks; I know results could take months, not weeks.

I like reading Dr. Mercola's website for nutrition & overall health advice, and he said for cod liver oil (& I don't know how much dha/epa in these pills relative to the fish oil), but it said

"For Carlson's Cod Liver Oil Softgels with Low Vitamin A, I highly recommend taking one softgel for every ten pounds of body weight. However, do not exceed more than15 pills per day -- unless you have had your fatty acid levels tested."

http://www.mercola.com/forms/carlsons.htm

Has anyone else found other advice about grams per body weight?

Don't worry, it doesn't relate to body weight, but directly based on foods that you eat 🙂 So it would be hard to say what each person to say based on body weight, as it's not like water needs. I say 3 to 4 grams because that will be overcompensating for most people, and they start results. Then eventually they can go down to 2 grams which is what is pretty much recommended, and good enough as a maintance dosage. So keep doing what you are doing :).

But I understand how body weight can do with consumption because the heavier someone generally is, the more omega 6 they may be taking: something like that, but just keep doing what you do, it will work like it has the rest of us 🙂 (I hope)

Im using Natures Made Double strength brand. It has 602mg of Omega 3.

I guess the smell isnt all that bad, but i have seen Nature Made come out with a "No burp fish oil supplement" so im guessing my fish oil isnt spoiled.

Oh yea how long did it take for you to see oil diminishing? And is there an initial breakout? After a day of 1.2g O3 i got 2 new pimples

Im using Natures Made Double strength brand. It has 602mg of Omega 3.

I guess the smell isnt all that bad, but i have seen Nature Made come out with a "No burp fish oil supplement" so im guessing my fish oil isnt spoiled.

Oh yea how long did it take for you to see oil diminishing? And is there an initial breakout? After a day of 1.2g O3 i got 2 new pimples 🙁

Any break outs that come right now, will not result from fish oil itself 🙂 Because it takes 3 weeks to show effects, so don't worry, it's just your regular old body creating acne like usual :(.

Give it three weeks to start, because it takes a helluva time. 'self conscious' can attest to that. And it gets better when you eventually up the doses (slowly).

http://www.amazon.com/Members-Mark-Omega-F...s/dp/B00083B8KK

Sooo, how many pills / day would a person have to take from this bottle? (that link was mentioned in the article on page 1)

anyone experience increased sleepyness? i seem to get tired a little easier..and find it harder to wake up in the morning. i also got weird dreams while i was tkaing a lot of o3 per day (5-7 grams) i decreased the dosage and stopped gettin the weird dreams but still get more tired than normal. not sure if this is bc of the o3 or b/c of my own body.

anyone experience increased sleepyness? i seem to get tired a little easier..and find it harder to wake up in the morning. i also got weird dreams while i was tkaing a lot of o3 per day (5-7 grams) i decreased the dosage and stopped gettin the weird dreams but still get more tired than normal. not sure if this is bc of the o3 or b/c of my own body.

3 grams/day has had the opposite effect one me. I have more energy. Weird. :think:

anyone experience increased sleepyness? i seem to get tired a little easier..and find it harder to wake up in the morning. i also got weird dreams while i was tkaing a lot of o3 per day (5-7 grams) i decreased the dosage and stopped gettin the weird dreams but still get more tired than normal. not sure if this is bc of the o3 or b/c of my own body.

dreams arnt associated with supplements, and omega3s are not know to make you tired; you should be glad you can fall asleep easier but def not a result of fish oil.