BigBeauty,
Good idea, I just did that. The first post is updated and it's unbiased and honest as I can possibly be about fish oil now.
I like your idea about access too. That was the only program that I didn't pay enough attention to, to be sufficient in, but that is a great way.
I admire your effort and determination through this. I don't know how you do it but I can tell you have a lot of will power. I wish the best of luck, hopefully with this, or if anything else works.
BigBeauty,Good idea, I just did that. The first post is updated and it's unbiased and honest as I can possibly be about fish oil now.
I like your idea about access too. That was the only program that I didn't pay enough attention to, to be sufficient in, but that is a great way.
I admire your effort and determination through this. I don't know how you do it but I can tell you have a lot of will power. I wish the best of luck, hopefully with this, or if anything else works.
I like how this thread has developed. I had been trying to get some people to try the stuff in enough quantity before to see if it would help them as much as it helps me or if it was a coincidence. By looking at the results in this thread, i'd say we're onto something.
BigBeauty,Good idea, I just did that. The first post is updated and it's unbiased and honest as I can possibly be about fish oil now.
I like your idea about access too. That was the only program that I didn't pay enough attention to, to be sufficient in, but that is a great way.
I admire your effort and determination through this. I don't know how you do it but I can tell you have a lot of will power. I wish the best of luck, hopefully with this, or if anything else works.
I like how this thread has developed. I had been trying to get some people to try the stuff in enough quantity before to see if it would help them as much as it helps me or if it was a coincidence. By looking at the results in this thread, i'd say we're onto something.
Thank you so much for all your help as well bber, I took in what everyone said, and applied it, you all were right too. It seems like we started out with pieces to a puzzle, trying to figure out why, trying to make ends meet, with different opinions from people. Once we put it all together, we came out with a theory, a good scientific one that can be explained to anyone!
We'll see how time progresses. If it's leading to where we think it is, I am going to blow this up and make it more publically available, more than just a thread: it's own website, because the truth has to be spread to everyone who's suffering and doesn't know about this. I don't want another soul to suffer as long as I have! Even if I become 100% clear my main goal is to help everyone for free, it feels great. I've perfected the other aspects of the regimen (facial care), so this would be the last part too.
So thank you once again! Without you guys, I would still be wondering, and possibly just giving up on it all.
I'm new to all of this so I'm sorry if this is a silly question.....Isn't GLA found in omega 6 supposed to be an anti-inflammitory? So why do some people (myself included) break out with evening primrose oil and some people have amazing results with it or from borage oil? Can anyone explain? Thanks. :angel:
you break out because you take too much, to much gla is turned right back into arachidonic acid, which is the worst omega 6 fatty acid, and the one most link to disease especially inflammatory.
and also epo has alot of other omega 6 in it that isnt good for acne.
but gla is known as the efa paradox, because although it is an omega 6 it also helps regulate arachidonic acid, and is made into some anti-inflammatory eicosanoids, so it is probably the most beneficial omega 6.
epo will most likely help you temporarily but then fail after a certain amount of time making you break out again.
its good to take borage oil to temporarily supplement your bodys gla levels, but then stop supplementing after youve corrected your diet, actually i dont think many young people would even need to take gla, the fad was only intended for older people that have a hard time converting la to gla.
at least this is what i have learned.
Does anyone happen to know how much fat you need to have the pills be absorbed? I know you need a source of fat to take these, otherwise it won't be beneficial, but how much is enough? Would one handful of nuts be fine, or about 1/4 glass of 2% milk? Or maybe even a bit of chocolate?:wacko:
dude, fish oil is fat.
it doesnt need anything to be absorbed.
you dont need more fat to absorb more fat.
just like you wouldnt need chicken protein to absorb beef protein.
its not like taking a vitamin, fat is a macro nutrient like carbs and protein, your body is gonna absorb it cause its food.
I have a question about Omega 3-6-9 cold pressed oils pills, they contain many type of oils. Are those pills good??Borage oil: 400mg
Flax oil: 400mg
Fish oil: 400mg
Vitamine E: 10 IU
in my opinion, that pill is pointless.
you already get enough omega 6s in your diet, you dont need to supplement them, if you are worried about omega 6s that much, eat nuts 1 day a week that should do you good.
the problem is we dont get enough omega 3s so you absolutly ned to supplement them, fish oil has all the omega3s youll need.
Guys have anyone heard this book "The Clear Skin Diet: A Nutritional Plan for Getting Rid of and Avoiding Acne (Hardcover)
by Alan C. Logan (Author)" ?! It is also based EFA/Omega3 balance diet to have clear skin. As i know book would be publish in summer so it is on pre-order.
Book Description:
While acne has long been a problem for adolescents, in recent decades the last fifty years specifically acne has been on the rise among adults as well, particularly among women. Many scientists have traced this upsurge to changes in the dietary habits of North Americans. The Clear Skin Diet is designed to help those who suffer from acne to understand what it is, why they have it, what it has to do with their eating habits, and what they can do to prevent it or lessen its impact.
Research has shown that there is a strong causal link between certain kinds of foods and acne. These same dietary stresses also influence the level of hormones that cause acne.
There is also a strong connection between the brain and the skin. When a person experiences anxiety and depression, acne-producing hormones are released, which can lead to poor dietary choices high in saturated fats and sugars.
Most important, The Clear Skin Diet introduces the acne diet and lifestyle. Dietary requirements for protecting the skin are listed along with suggested food supplements when they cannot be easily met and summarized, as well as mind-body medical interventions that can influence acne hormones and lessen their impact.
About the Author
Alan C. Logan is a member of the Harvard Medical School's Mind-Body Medical Institute. A graduate of the State University of New York and the Canadian College of Naturopathic Medicine, he also has studied at Harvard Medical School and at Georgetown University School of Medicine. is the author of The Brain Diet. He resides in Yonkers, New York.
I have a question about Omega 3-6-9 cold pressed oils pills, they contain many type of oils. Are those pills good??Borage oil: 400mg
Flax oil: 400mg
Fish oil: 400mg
Vitamine E: 10 IU
in my opinion, that pill is pointless.
you already get enough omega 6s in your diet, you dont need to supplement them, if you are worried about omega 6s that much, eat nuts 1 day a week that should do you good.
the problem is we dont get enough omega 3s so you absolutly ned to supplement them, fish oil has all the omega3s youll need.
But nuts don't have gla already converted. Gla, in and of itself has been used to treat acne and a few people have used it by itself with success in healing acne. It's impossible to tell if a person is readily converting la into gla, especially if their diet is poor.
I'll repeat myself, cut out the doritos, potato chips, cakes, cookies, commercial eggs etc. NOT the gla and flax. An omega-6 witch hunt is pointless.
dang xxndnromeoxx!!you've maneged to take most of the advice ive given and claim it as your own in the initial post!!!
what gives????
You also have to realize that all this information has been posted countless times before. If you topic search for fish oil, you can find threads that are 2 and 3 years old that already state everything that's been said in this thread. Seriously, most nearly everything that currently pops up on these boards have been stated and restated and then stated again. Everything you need to know about diet and acne has already been posted, but the poor search function just sits there gathering dust.
One last VERY IMPORTANT point:
Quality makes a big difference in efa oils. Fiah and flax oils are VERY fragile and get destroyed easly by heat.A lot of those fish oils that are sitting there on the grocery store shelves are totally damaged and worthless. When buying fish oil look for the following:
-Nitrogen flushed.
-Cold pressed (very important, if the processing used heat then the oil is probably totally destroyed)
-Is kept in a refrigerated section.
Definately go to a vitamin store and find the refrigerated section of fish oils (most should have it) and look for a bottle with the preceding markers. Fish oil that has been sitting a shelf for weeks/months that isn't properly stored or preserved may be totally worthless. I wonder if some people who aren't seeing a difference may be using damaged oil. Go get some good quality liquid. It's your money. You might as well get what you are paying for and the assurence that it is effective.
dang xxndnromeoxx!!you've maneged to take most of the advice ive given and claim it as your own in the initial post!!!
what gives????
You also have to realize that all this information has been posted countless times before. If you topic search for fish oil, you can find threads that are 2 and 3 years old that already state everything that's been said in this thread. Seriously, most nearly everything that currently pops up on these boards have been stated and restated and then stated again. Everything you need to know about diet and acne has already been posted, but the poor search function just sits there gathering dust.
This is probably true although i have to say, if I saw a three year old post get bumped with sudden "new" interest I'd probably look right past it. Unfortunately :shrug:
I have a question about Omega 3-6-9 cold pressed oils pills, they contain many type of oils. Are those pills good??Borage oil: 400mg
Flax oil: 400mg
Fish oil: 400mg
Vitamine E: 10 IU
in my opinion, that pill is pointless.
you already get enough omega 6s in your diet, you dont need to supplement them, if you are worried about omega 6s that much, eat nuts 1 day a week that should do you good.
the problem is we dont get enough omega 3s so you absolutly ned to supplement them, fish oil has all the omega3s youll need.
But nuts don't have gla already converted. Gla, in and of itself has been used to treat acne and a few people have used it by itself with success in healing acne. It's impossible to tell if a person is readily converting la into gla, especially if their diet is poor.
I'll repeat myself, cut out the doritos, potato chips, cakes, cookies, commercial eggs etc. NOT the gla and flax. An omega-6 witch hunt is pointless.
I cut out those already.
So I think I will buy a bottle of omega 3 fish oil plus that omega3-6-9, and take one of each daily.
This way it will be more balanced.
dang xxndnromeoxx!!you've maneged to take most of the advice ive given and claim it as your own in the initial post!!!
what gives????
Don't worry, I'm not claiming it as my own. I added a note on the first page that should explain it better. I'm sorry you saw it as offensive, the help came from everyone, not just yourself, most of which is just an application from knowledge that I looked up on the web, and posts from this board. I just compiled it, and put it into practical use so people can see and benefit it. because frankly, you didn't invent it, I didn't invent it, but we're all just sharing information. I never claimed anywhere that I found out about it first or anything like. I made a note on the first post to clearly indicate that better :).
Hope that helps, sorry that you saw it in the wrong way and I hope you're not offended and understand it better now 🙂
One last VERY IMPORTANT point:Quality makes a big difference in efa oils. Fiah and flax oils are VERY fragile and get destroyed easly by heat.A lot of those fish oils that are sitting there on the grocery store shelves are totally damaged and worthless. When buying fish oil look for the following:
-Nitrogen flushed.
-Cold pressed (very important, if the processing used heat then the oil is probably totally destroyed)
-Is kept in a refrigerated section.
Definately go to a vitamin store and find the refrigerated section of fish oils (most should have it) and look for a bottle with the preceding markers. Fish oil that has been sitting a shelf for weeks/months that isn't properly stored or preserved may be totally worthless. I wonder if some people who aren't seeing a difference may be using damaged oil. Go get some good quality liquid. It's your money. You might as well get what you are paying for and the assurence that it is effective.
Great post! quoting for truth.
I know you take a liquid form, but for those who take capsules, would you recommend any particular brand in terms of it being the most efficient cost wise and quality wise? I would love to hear your opinion.
dang xxndnromeoxx!!you've maneged to take most of the advice ive given and claim it as your own in the initial post!!!
what gives????
I hope you were being sarcastic. Otherwise I don't want this thread heading south, but come on its obvious that xxndromeoxx's intentions are to help others and spead useful information we can all benefit from, as opposed to getting attention and recognition (on an internet forum!) for what he's learned. But what are your intentions?
Great post! quoting for truth.I know you take a liquid form, but for those who take capsules, would you recommend any particular brand in terms of it being the most efficient cost wise and quality wise? I would love to hear your opinion.
I want to second that question and also add: arent the refrigerated ones the type that will induce fish burps? I cannot not not deal with those.
Guys have anyone heard this book "The Clear Skin Diet: A Nutritional Plan for Getting Rid of and Avoiding Acne (Hardcover)by Alan C. Logan (Author)" ?! It is also based EFA/Omega3 balance diet to have clear skin. As i know book would be publish in summer so it is on pre-order.
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Book Description:
While acne has long been a problem for adolescents, in recent decades the last fifty years specifically acne has been on the rise among adults as well, particularly among women. Many scientists have traced this upsurge to changes in the dietary habits of North Americans. The Clear Skin Diet is designed to help those who suffer from acne to understand what it is, why they have it, what it has to do with their eating habits, and what they can do to prevent it or lessen its impact.
Research has shown that there is a strong causal link between certain kinds of foods and acne. These same dietary stresses also influence the level of hormones that cause acne.
There is also a strong connection between the brain and the skin. When a person experiences anxiety and depression, acne-producing hormones are released, which can lead to poor dietary choices high in saturated fats and sugars.
Most important, The Clear Skin Diet introduces the acne diet and lifestyle. Dietary requirements for protecting the skin are listed along with suggested food supplements when they cannot be easily met and summarized, as well as mind-body medical interventions that can influence acne hormones and lessen their impact.
About the Author
Alan C. Logan is a member of the Harvard Medical School's Mind-Body Medical Institute. A graduate of the State University of New York and the Canadian College of Naturopathic Medicine, he also has studied at Harvard Medical School and at Georgetown University School of Medicine. is the author of The Brain Diet. He resides in Yonkers, New York.
Yes, this book does sound very interesting, thanks for pointing it out for everyone. I saw it on Amazon or somewhere else online too a few weeks ago and all was ready to order, credit card out and everything until I realized it won't even be released until next September. Ughh!
If the aftertaste is unpleasant, the oil quality is probably not great. The ones that used to take from wally world (spring valley) had a nauseating aftertaste. The Carlson I take now has virtually none.
Really? Thanks for the info, I just searched for the Carlson brand and they cost at least three times as much as the ones I'm taking so there probably is some truth to that. It can be hard to really know what is good quality or not aside from maybe the price. I'm curious about if and how you researched about the quality of pills. But damn, the ones I'm taking I just bought a bottle last week of 240 pills, I'll have to deal with the aftertaste for awhile I guess.
If the aftertaste is unpleasant, the oil quality is probably not great. The ones that used to take from wally world (spring valley) had a nauseating aftertaste. The Carlson I take now has virtually none.
I wish I knew where I saw it but I read something yesterday about how the "good" fish oil has almost no taste or smell at all, you should be able to bite the capsule without wrenching in disgust. Now, whether or not someone is WILLING to try that little test is another story. Me? Not so much.
But to answer the question about aftertaste, I have not noticed this. Is your formula supposed to be specially coated? The kind I have has a coating so that the oil will not be released until its in your small intestine, making it virtually impossible to taste.
No mine does not have an enteric coating, the ingestion of that plastic freaks me out a little tbh. Hmmm, bite it huh?? Next time I take one, I shall bite it
I got the Carlson ones because of the stringent testing and guaranteed potency, but there were quite a few others I would have accepted if they'd been available. Nordic Naturals (the one I wanted), Sealogix, TwinLab, Trilogy, Iceland, etc.
i used to have really oily skin until i started taking omega 3's as well. i started out with flax and have switched to fish oil sinceflax does not have epa or dha which are potent acne fighters, plus it contains oleic acid(omega 9) and linoleic acid(omega 6) linoliec acid is really bad for acne.
fish oil is absolutely perfect for what our bodys need.
That's because our bodies have to convert it. The fish has already done that. I've heard that as we get older, our ability to convert it decreases, in which case, fish oil is the better source.