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Taking fish oil and acv at the same time, bad correct? Since what the acv is doing is burning up fat.
That's still kind of up in the air. That was my school of thinking for a while too, but recently I've started drinking the ACV again and (maybe it's just coincidentally) my acne has been clearing up a bit. Just don't drink it the same time you take the fish oil. I usually try to drink the ACV about an Hour and a half after taking Fish oil. The best way to know is just to try it yourself
No. Thats not how the body works at all. People think stuff can just get "burned up" but they dont. ACV aids fat metabolism so it should help the body use the fish oil properly.
I dont drink a lot, just a tspn in water every morning before I eat or drink anything else. No ones ever actually claimed that ACV interfered with their fish oil results, someone just asked whether they could be used together and a misconception was born that it burns it up somehow.
Im quite concerned about a few things.1.Fish oils contain mercury in them. Are we building up alot of mercury in our systems?
2. Moleculer Distillation is what gets rid of toxins such as Mercury from fish oil but aparently it oxidizes it which is not good? I heard it makes it stronger but someone said it can make it go off or change its naturaly state.
You have nothing to worry about with fish oil supplements. I read a report somewhere that said how fish oil capsules are very safe when it comes to mercury levels. I can't find it though, otherwise I would post it. 🙂
okay so this morning i checked the pills i left in the freezer. none of them were cloudy. so does that mean they are okay? how foolproof is this test?*edit*
well. i think im gonna have to toss out these pills. i just dont feel comfortable taking them anymore. bah. dont know what to do anymore. i'll take some Green tea extracts and eat some salmon in the meantime.
W A I T. If you are thinking about throwing them away, then buy another bottle, do the chew test, and if it's the same, then it's fine. Remember, they are SUPPOSED to taste fishy, but NOT rancid =).
Does anyone know anything about the DHA inhibiting EPA? I have been reading alot on this and they say EPA converts in DHA anyway so its not really neccessary.Most of the books I read say pureEPA is the best method..im going to try this and ordered a bottle from mind1st
Their was another acne and prescription drug forum i read a while ago and apparently someone mentioned to not take flaxseed, Cod liver or fish oil if you have been on roaccutane. Is their any evidence or if anyone here can say if this is true? Apparently they said it can flare up all the symptoms of when they were on the stuff...im guessing they are just paranoid and thinking too much etc...
Try to find that article if possible, I am interested in reading that. That way we can also advice people who are taking accutane, to do so properly as well. :think:
i dunno.. i think they are pretty rancid to me. its the same smell/taste when my mom occassionally serves fish that were frozen, but obviously not fresh cuz they had that nasty taste in them.
i did have one brand before (had lemon in it) that were not fishy at all... just bland.
oh well, im going to return/refund my giant bottle to costco anyways.
oh and Jodiat... isnt chicken high in omega6? thats what ive found. (unless they are organic and free-range i think)
anyways, im gonna embark on an anti-inflammatory diet for the next month.
Can somone help me please with this brand of fish oil.This is the label.
http://www.hollandandbarrett.com/vf/labels/003837HB.pdf
Basically with the figures and how much I should be taking.
By the way for anyone in the UK, this is on sale, 500 capsules for 9.99 reduced from 29.99.
Capsules.
http://www.hollandandbarrett.com/pages/pro...F1D5B8BED5E798B
This is the brand that I am taking. I get mixed results from them, although it might just be the way that my body works with the Fish Oil. Some days my skin is perfect, other days I break out. Generally, I have gotten good all round results from them. The Vitamin E in them really helps your skin too.
Each tablet contains 180mg of EPA and 120mg of DHA. Add these together to get the Omega 3 total per capsule. For these tablets, that is 300mg of Omega 3. I take 3.6g of Omega 3 per day, so I take 12 capsules, split into 3 doses of 4 tablets. I would start taking one tablet, three times per day and work your way up to about 3g of Omega 3. See how you go from there. It can take up to 3 months to see good results.
By the way, Holland and Barrett have them on special offer at the moment, and do quite regularly, but stock up on them now. If you're taking 12 capsules a day, a bottle of 500 will last you 41 days. And 9.99 for 500 is a pretty good deal. I try to make sure I buy at least 3 months supply in one go, so I don't have to pay for them full price. Their sale is on until July 19th by the way.
Helen
Thank you Helen.
Do you mind if I ask what the condition of you acne was when you started taking them?
Was there any improvement in red or dark marks if you had them at all?
Thanks again for your help.
I've been doing this for 3 months and it's AMAZING. It didn't really do anything for my body acne, but for my face it did wonders. I have typical Asian skin, it's super oil to begin with but the fish oil made my oily skin better. I never get pimples now, if i do it's only one or two spots not my whole face. The color, the texture, everything about my face feels better.
I realized something, for maintenance dosages purposes, to figure it out properly.
I think it hit me when I remember talking to LuckyMan here: Please read this!!
http://www.acne.org/messageboard/index.php...t&p=1864990
It was the part of understanding omega 3 that I overlooked. It's true that so little of ALA gets converted to EPA, but the same amount of LA gets converted to AA (which compete directly with EPA... the fatty acid imbalance, that we are trying to balance).
It's that the same amount of ALA gets converted EPA as LA gets converted AA. And since we are taking epa/dha directly, we skip the conversion process, and even though we may intake 6 grams of omega 6 a day (random example figure), that equates to so little of AA that we need so little of EPA to counterbalance it. Unless you eat nuts, which gets you direct AA.
So basically, AA and EPA compete, but if you are eating LA forms of omega 6, only 2 to 8 percent get converted.
So to directly say we need X amount of omega 3 (EPA/DHA) just because we get X amount of overall omega 6, was very wrong.
The reason I am stating all this is because it gives a good guidline for "Maintenance" dosages when the internal deficiency is filled 
.
But it is still necessary to eat a lot of omega 3 in the beginning to fill a deficiency faster (if you want), but it is also wise to probably lower it eventually when you are happy with things too. This will essentially help you exactly how much you will need, and not to only compare overall omega 6 intake to epa/dha intake.
Math Example:
So essentially, to balance perfectly (for maintenance), if you get 6 grams of omega 6 a day (from LA), you get 480 mg of AA (8% of the LA), which means you need that much EPA (not counting DHA). So let's say that our capsules have 180 EPA and 120 DHA... that would equate to 3 capsules a day (which gets you 540 mg of EPA and whatever it comes out for DHA).
And that, is how the recommendation on the bottle comes about (the two to three capsules a day). And that is also why the american heart association recommends what it does (link)
If what I am saying is correct, and what luckyman is saying is spot on (which it is), then this should make sense.
Another benefit is that eventually, you won't have to be on so many pills, and spend lots of money. But again, that's eventually, whenever you want to go on a maintenance dosage. You can always try, and if it gets worse, go back to whatever you are taking.
Man, that sounded confusing.
Man, that sounded confusing.
It was. I think I get what your saying though...possibly. Were not getting quite as much omega 6 as we thought, is that it? I dunno, im gonna stick to what im doing for now.
How much ACV are the two of you taking? I would like to take some if it's going to help with getting rid of the red marks.
I only take one tspn in water every morning. I like to take it before anything else just so it gets my metabolism going before I put anything in there(which is very little now that i've changed my diet). I dont know how much taking it internally helps with red marks, I was under the impression that topical use is what helps with that, but its possible. I just take it because it potentially has some benefit to my acne by whatever it is that it does in the digestive system and because it boosts my metabolism and helps me lose weight.
has anyone noticed weight gain since megadosing on fish oil? i mean... omega 3 or not. oil = fat = calories.. and a calorie is a calorie.
ive gained some fat, for sure. i dont know if its due to the fish oil, stopping my chromium supps (which caused weight loss at first), or maybe i am just eating too much...? (unlikely).
has anyone noticed weight gain since megadosing on fish oil? i mean... omega 3 or not. oil = fat = calories.. and a calorie is a calorie.ive gained some fat, for sure. i dont know if its due to the fish oil, stopping my chromium supps (which caused weight loss at first), or maybe i am just eating too much...? (unlikely).
No, I thought I remember hearing that fish oil helped with weight loss somehow, not sure, but either way, the acv I take with it has helped me burn a lot of weight.
Hey guys, it's been quite a while. I believe it's been over a month since I've visited this thread. After my derm appointment back on May 24th (in which none of my concerns or questions concerning fish oil and proper diet were answered), I found out that one of the topicals prescribed to me by the derm (the strongest one) was WAY too expensive for even my health plan to cover ($250). It was a tube of that newfangled "Ziana" cream (clindamycin+retin-a) that was to treat my back acne. I had to sit out on that one, and the only other thing that came from that appointment was a prescription for clindamycin and a suggestion to use a liquid cleanser and moisturizer (despite me having horribly oily skin to begin with).
Even since then I've been rather inconsistent in my consumption of fish oil caplets as I keep losing faith in them. Over the last month or so I haven't gotten past taking more than 2 grams a day, not seeing the point in doing so and to also save money on those rather expensive bottles of GNC fish oil. As I've seen little to any results on the oil production and texture of my skin I don't know how much further I'll go with this. I'll perhaps invest in a bottle of liquid fish oil and see how that works out. Any suggestions as far as liquid fish oil goes...........that I could find at Vitamin Shoppe or GNC??? If this doesn't work than frankly I'm done with fish oil. It'd be another failed attempt to curb my damn oil production and to a lesser extent my acne. Besides, I'm a skinny-ass dude who needs to eat a lot more than what I am if I want to gain some presentable-looking weight, and how is that possible if I go about obsessing about what to eat or not??? (Besides the obvious like fast food and the like) Later..........
Thank you Helen.Do you mind if I ask what the condition of you acne was when you started taking them?
Was there any improvement in red or dark marks if you had them at all?
Thanks again for your help.
My acne was mild to moderate, depending on the time of the month. My main problems were huge whiteheads (always at least 5 at any one time) and at the wrong time of the month I would get one or two cysts. I've been taking 3.6g of Omega 3 for about 2 months now, after upping it from about 1g and have seen a real improvement to my skin. I'm not cured, but I can't remember the last time I got a cyst, my whiteheads have really come down in number and my oil production has dropped. Also, and I don't know whether this is related, but my acne has moved and now really only appears under my jaw. My cheeks, which were my worst areas, have pretty much cleared and only occasionally get a whitehead which is much smaller, and I still get a few around my mouth. All in all, a pretty good result for such a simple routine!
I haven't really noticed much of an improvement in my red marks, but I know they are fading now. I think it also helps a lot that I am not getting any new ones because my acne has improved, so those that are disappearing are not being replaced. So, there is an indirect improvement. Eventually, I guess they will all fade away.
Hope this helps,
Helen
has anyone noticed weight gain since megadosing on fish oil? i mean... omega 3 or not. oil = fat = calories.. and a calorie is a calorie.ive gained some fat, for sure. i dont know if its due to the fish oil, stopping my chromium supps (which caused weight loss at first), or maybe i am just eating too much...? (unlikely).
I have but it's a good thing because I was too skinny before. Considering I don't eat wheat or barely any other grains anymore, besides rice every once in while--I'm still managing to gain weight w/ only eating fruits, vegs, eggs, meats and seafood. I also douse my salads w/ lots of olive oil which is more good fat like the fish oil. So, I'm not minding the weight...I'm looking healthier now.
How much ACV are the two of you taking? I would like to take some if it's going to help with getting rid of the red marks.I only take one tspn in water every morning. I like to take it before anything else just so it gets my metabolism going before I put anything in there(which is very little now that i've changed my diet). I dont know how much taking it internally helps with red marks, I was under the impression that topical use is what helps with that, but its possible. I just take it because it potentially has some benefit to my acne by whatever it is that it does in the digestive system and because it boosts my metabolism and helps me lose weight.
I think I'll do just that. I get out of my house at around 5:25. I figure before I head out I can take 1 tspn, and up it little by little. Is it fine to take 4 tspn at once?
Also my digestive system sucks ass (poo every other day if I'm lucky lol). Perhaps it'll help with that as well.
Oh and really need to buy some more fish oil NOW! :wacko: That bottle was full like two days ago. :confused:
Hey guys, it's been quite a while. I believe it's been over a month since I've visited this thread. After my derm appointment back on May 24th (in which none of my concerns or questions concerning fish oil and proper diet were answered), I found out that one of the topicals prescribed to me by the derm (the strongest one) was WAY too expensive for even my health plan to cover ($250). It was a tube of that newfangled "Ziana" cream (clindamycin+retin-a) that was to treat my back acne. I had to sit out on that one, and the only other thing that came from that appointment was a prescription for clindamycin and a suggestion to use a liquid cleanser and moisturizer (despite me having horribly oily skin to begin with).Even since then I've been rather inconsistent in my consumption of fish oil caplets as I keep losing faith in them. Over the last month or so I haven't gotten past taking more than 2 grams a day, not seeing the point in doing so and to also save money on those rather expensive bottles of GNC fish oil. As I've seen little to any results on the oil production and texture of my skin I don't know how much further I'll go with this. I'll perhaps invest in a bottle of liquid fish oil and see how that works out. Any suggestions as far as liquid fish oil goes...........that I could find at Vitamin Shoppe or GNC??? If this doesn't work than frankly I'm done with fish oil. It'd be another failed attempt to curb my damn oil production and to a lesser extent my acne. Besides, I'm a skinny-ass dude who needs to eat a lot more than what I am if I want to gain some presentable-looking weight, and how is that possible if I go about obsessing about what to eat or not??? (Besides the obvious like fast food and the like) Later..........
Do you happen to eat a lot of wheat or dairy? It's not out of the realm of possibility that either one or the other can cause you to get acne. Wheat, more so than Dairy I think.
Have you also tried digestive enzymes? Or probiotics? That's at least 4 more things you can try 🙂
As far liquid fish oil goes, I am not too sure, they may have it, but I think they may not. If you have a whole foods, they have Carlson's fish oil I believe. That may be worth your while.
So tomorrow is 4 months for me, and unfortunately i've had quite a drop off this month. Still trying to figure out whats wrong. Ive changed bottles twice this month, and I just tested one today and it tastes fine. Im probably gonna decrease my dosage a little, because apparently taking as much as 8.6 grams like I have isn't doing much. I've kinda started to get inflamed breakouts again and that tells me something isn't working like it used to...
Im not sure what im gonna do yet. Ive only been taking my latest bottle for a little over a week, but since i've already been taking fish oil for 4 months I wouldn't think it would take much time to see an improvement.
I've been trying to watch my diet now, and I guess I need to give that more time, but for the first 3 months fish oil mostly kept me from getting a bad breakout from whatever I ate, and it seems like thats how it is for most other people too. But one of my reasonings has been that ive gotten more opportunities to eat poorly during break and i've only just started watching my diet for not even a week so hopefully its just gonna take a bit more time for me to level out my omega 6's and 3's. Im also starting a new multi-vitamin too and i've never take one so hopefully that will help me out.
I told people reading this thread about 2-3 months ago now how fish oils were doing great for me, really reducing my acne considerably, i couldnt even remember the last time i had a cyst or nodule etc, i still got the odd little witehead once every 2 weeks maybe but it was really clearing up. Then one day i started to get a few spots, nothing major but eventually over a week my acne had got bad again, really soul destroying since i have changed nothing at all in my life that could make such a change.
I really cant figure out why this breakout has happened, i take 630mg green tea extracts and 5.5grams of fish oil capsules per day and the breakouts continue 2 weeks on.
Basically just thought i would share this with you, what im saying is fish oils are erally good in my opinion, they did great things for me but it hasnt lasted forever...and dont ask why, but there u go...thats life sometimes 
haha.
Good luck to anyone trying them though, it could work well for you.
So tomorrow is 4 months for me, and unfortunately i've had quite a drop off this month. Still trying to figure out whats wrong. Ive changed bottles twice this month, and I just tested one today and it tastes fine. Im probably gonna decrease my dosage a little, because apparently taking as much as 8.6 grams like I have isn't doing much. I've kinda started to get inflamed breakouts again and that tells me something isn't working like it used to...Im not sure what im gonna do yet. Ive only been taking my latest bottle for a little over a week, but since i've already been taking fish oil for 4 months I wouldn't think it would take much time to see an improvement.
I've been trying to watch my diet now, and I guess I need to give that more time, but for the first 3 months fish oil mostly kept me from getting a bad breakout from whatever I ate, and it seems like thats how it is for most other people too. But one of my reasonings has been that ive gotten more opportunities to eat poorly during break and i've only just started watching my diet for not even a week so hopefully its just gonna take a bit more time for me to level out my omega 6's and 3's. Im also starting a new multi-vitamin too and i've never take one so hopefully that will help me out.
So the fish pills aren't working? If they are do you still have a lot of acne? Or is it less but there is still some?
I must say, if fish oil won't clear our skin 100%, it will at least relieve the negative emotions with it. Each time I go without it for just under 24 hours, I get depressed, and it is the type of depression you know that doesn't just happen. It really does help with mood and emotions greatly, like an anti-depressant.