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I think this has been discussed before, but I can't find the info amongst the pages, but was there an opinion on Tocopherol/Vitamin E in Omega 3 capsules? I've just bought a new brand (as they are cheaper, but still from a reputable company) and they have tocopherol in them. I haven't opened the bottle, so I can take them back if necessary, but does anyone have an opinion of it?
Thanks
I think this has been discussed before, but I can't find the info amongst the pages, but was there an opinion on Tocopherol/Vitamin E in Omega 3 capsules? I've just bought a new brand (as they are cheaper, but still from a reputable company) and they have tocopherol in them. I haven't opened the bottle, so I can take them back if necessary, but does anyone have an opinion of it?Thanks
It's good that it's in there, you are fine, it's natural vit e.
I know you guys aren't the biggest b5 fans, but what would you think if someone went on the fish oil and the b5? Would that be really bad? or possibly a super acne cure.
No one is really sure about the interactions of b5 and fish oil together. If they do not interact, that would be awesome, honestly, because when I took it at small doses, it did reduce at least a good chunk of oil production. I only have so little left and want it all gone so it may be a solution.
One of the other reasons I am not sure how they interact is because of their nature. B5 works with the metabolism of fats so it's not stored, but omega 3 works best when stored. Maybe they interact differently, but I am not 100% sure so I cannot answer your question, it may be worth trying.
Yeah, your frame is about the same as myself, skinny as death lol and of almost the same descent.There's just one problem I see first of all, it's your washing regimen! I can see why you get oily too, you are killing your face. Too much washing and baking soda going on. You should try a gentle cleanser, a baby brush, and a moisturizer. One reason is because even though your face doesn't feel like you need it, it's still dry and irritated from the wash, and a little bit of moisturizer is necessary so that there the production of sebum is lessened. I never used to use it either till last year, till I realized how important it was. :think:
Yeah i figured too. Im thinking about starting to use some johnson and johnson baby shampoo or Dove bar soap as a cleanser. I used to use the Dove awhile back, but eventually started thinking that since its in solid bar form it will probably get in my pores and turn back into solid bar form in there. What do you think? BTW...this morning i stopped using the C&C BP wash...we'll see how that goes. I also need to get a baby brush...maybe from target...i'll go today. As for moisturizer i have Nivea for Men Oil Control Lotion that i bought a few months back but stopped using after 3 days. I'll try to incorporate that into the regimen somewhere or maybe man up and buy the Cetaphil Moisturizer? I'll do what you do and apply while my face is still wet so it will sink in better. Interesting technique.
This morning i woke up and did the finger test on my nose and cheeks and there was less oil for sure but still some. Crazy..and thats just after taking 4x1000mg (300mg O-3 each) pills on sunday.
Man ive actually given up on acne these past few months and just did what i did in terms of washing and dealt with the 5 new pimples a week. But this thread has got me excited again to get rid of this shit once and for all. That and im graduating and will be starting a full time engineering position come summer so I need a new clear face for the new life ahead of me.
Whats this about milk and dairy being bad? I love my wheaties and raisan bran though man!!
And everytime i look at that avatar...i swear its me. lol
Yeah, your frame is about the same as myself, skinny as death lol and of almost the same descent.There's just one problem I see first of all, it's your washing regimen! I can see why you get oily too, you are killing your face. Too much washing and baking soda going on. You should try a gentle cleanser, a baby brush, and a moisturizer. One reason is because even though your face doesn't feel like you need it, it's still dry and irritated from the wash, and a little bit of moisturizer is necessary so that there the production of sebum is lessened. I never used to use it either till last year, till I realized how important it was. :think:
Yeah i figured too. Im thinking about starting to use some johnson and johnson baby shampoo or Dove bar soap as a cleanser. I used to use the Dove awhile back, but eventually started thinking that since its in solid bar form it will probably get in my pores and turn back into solid bar form in there. What do you think? BTW...this morning i stopped using the C&C BP wash...we'll see how that goes. I also need to get a baby brush...maybe from target...i'll go today. As for moisturizer i have Nivea for Men Oil Control Lotion that i bought a few months back but stopped using after 3 days. I'll try to incorporate that into the regimen somewhere or maybe man up and buy the Cetaphil Moisturizer? I'll do what you do and apply while my face is still wet so it will sink in better. Interesting technique.
This morning i woke up and did the finger test on my nose and cheeks and there was less oil for sure but still some. Crazy..and thats just after taking 4x1000mg (300mg O-3 each) pills on sunday.
Man ive actually given up on acne these past few months and just did what i did in terms of washing and dealt with the 5 new pimples a week. But this thread has got me excited again to get rid of this shit once and for all. That and im graduating and will be starting a full time engineering position come summer so I need a new clear face for the new life ahead of me.
Whats this about milk and dairy being bad? I love my wheaties and raisan bran though man!!
And everytime i look at that avatar...i swear its me. lol
I eat wheaties every day religiously. I don't know, I think different people have different acne flares from different things. If omega 3 doesn't work in full over the next 3 to 5 months, then it may be some type of sensitivity to a food or something like that. :think: It's all about trial and error, most of us have different issues, but omega 3 helps greatly as a good base, some people don't need anything else, some people still have a bit of acne left, but it's probably too soon to tell for anyone. :think:
I found this interesting, not sure if its been posted before. I'm not sure how credible the source is or where it originates from but seems to make sense:http://www.howweheal.com/fat.htm
20. It appears that individual needs for EFAs in the diet may vary considerably. Ancestry no doubt plays a huge role in this individuality. Saturated fats are far more stable than monounsaturated fats, which in turn are more stable than polyunsaturated fats such as the EFAs. The melting point of saturated fats is higher than that of mononsaturated fats, which in turn is higher than that of polyunsaturated fats. Compare, for example, butter, olive oil, and flax oil. Rancidity is a greater concern as temperature increases. Flexibility becomes a greater concern as temperature decreases. If we observe both plants and animals at various latitudes and climates, it is clear that there is a tradeoff between chemical stability and flexibility, with different results in different climates or latitudes. In warmer climates and lower latitudes, saturated fats tend to predominate as rancidity becomes the greater issue. In colder climates and higher latitudes, a lack of flexibility becomes the greater issue, and thus polyunsaturated fats tend to predominate. In the middle latitudes, monounsaturated fats may make the most sense. The food chain in colder climates thus tends to have a much greater EFA content than that in warmer climates. Therefore, for example, a person of Scandinavian ancestry may require far more EFAs in the diet than a person of Indian ancestry, for the simple reason that their ancestral diets were vastly different as far as EFA content.I'm of northern European ancestry, guess I'll have to up the dosage!
nice example for the application of nutrigenomics, and something ive never really considered about the natural distribution of the dietary fats within nature.
Yeah, in the book I mentioned before, "The Queen of Fats...", there is some more info on this. Also, it is thought that more omega-6 foods are in the diet in fall/winter (from nuts, seeds) and omega-6 diets actually trigger hibernation in animals. There was a laboratory experiment in which marmots were placed in winter conditions and given either a diet high in omega 6 or omega 3. The omega-6 marmots went into hypernation while the others didn't with all other things being equal.
I have a very important question.How would vegetarians follow this? Because apparently nuts and other protein stuffies are out of the question since it contains so many omega 6 fatty acids, what's left is like soy products and corn.
Well my diet is primarily vegetarian, my main calories come from cereals, pastas, lentils, etc. I do eat egg whites daily, but if it wasn't for that, I would replace it with pasta. There's lots you can do. I would preferably love to eats lots of fruits etc. whey shakes are great too.
So I have read quite a few pages of this thread. What I got from Romeo was a drastic decrease in oil production on the surface of the skin throughout the whole body after many weeks of fish oil capsules intake. Has anyone seen a decrease in acne formation though?
Yes, regulating oil production and keratin production = less and less acne over time.
I have a very important question.what kind of cereal and what kind of milk do u use?
How would vegetarians follow this? Because apparently nuts and other protein stuffies are out of the question since it contains so many omega 6 fatty acids, what's left is like soy products and corn.
Well my diet is primarily vegetarian, my main calories come from cereals, pastas, lentils, etc. I do eat egg whites daily, but if it wasn't for that, I would replace it with pasta. There's lots you can do. I would preferably love to eats lots of fruits etc. whey shakes are great too.
So I have read quite a few pages of this thread. What I got from Romeo was a drastic decrease in oil production on the surface of the skin throughout the whole body after many weeks of fish oil capsules intake. Has anyone seen a decrease in acne formation though?Yes, regulating oil production and keratin production = less and less acne over time.
what kind of ceral and what type of milk do you use? sorry you have probably answered so many questions over and over, but i really just can't bring myself to read through 74 pages of forums
well for me...i use 2% milk with wheaties or raisan bran.
Went off of it for awhile and nothing happened to my acne so for me dairy doesnt affect my acne. Thats why i continue to use dairy products with no worries. Cheeses, yogurts etc. Which is good with fish oil (from what i got in the reading) because it helps absorb the omega3 better or something like that.
Guys, I think I have yet another issue that is going to PISS ME OFF.
This past weekend I bought another bottle of GNC 1000mg Fish Body Oil, since I was about ready to finish my first one:
http://www.gnc.com/product/index.jsp?produ...rentPage=family
Upon opening it this morning for my first dose of it however............I noticed quite a strong smell, and immediately the discussions about rancidity in this thread came to mind, so much that I instantly turned on the PC just to type this. I haven't tried the bite test yet because frankly the thought of tasting the inside of the fish oil capsules, rancid or not disgusts me. I once did the same with a B-Complex and it tasted horrible.
With my description in mind, are my pills rancid after just opening them??? The expiration date is listed as 08/09, and they are of GNC brand. If they are then I will be MAJORLY pissed because I just wasted $15 for this shit. And that's on top of the hit I took for buying the "black market" fish oil. Aside from Vitamin Shoppe, I can't think of anywhere else remotely to buy fish oil as I don't have a credt card. Almost makes me wanna give this up............finding good, healthy pills has been a serious hit or miss for me, and when I miss it's at the expense of my money.
Later.
what kind of ceral and what type of milk do you use? sorry you have probably answered so many questions over and over, but i really just can't bring myself to read through 74 pages of forums
Same as toxic vtech. I've tried going off dairy, and nothing seemed to happen (possibly because I wasn't gone off it long enough) so I went back on it. I like wheaties because of the nutritional content, it's jam packed with a lot of vitamins, including zinc and all that. I eat about two bowls a day. It literally has 50% of a majority of your vitamins. I also like oatmeal squares, if you can't eat wheat. It's by quaker. It doesn't taste like oatmeal, but more like bite sized crunchy sweet things. Those are great too.
Guys, I think I have yet another issue that is going to PISS ME OFF.This past weekend I bought another bottle of GNC 1000mg Fish Body Oil, since I was about ready to finish my first one:
http://www.gnc.com/product/index.jsp?produ...rentPage=family
Upon opening it this morning for my first dose of it however............I noticed quite a strong smell, and immediately the discussions about rancidity in this thread came to mind, so much that I instantly turned on the PC just to type this. I haven't tried the bite test yet because frankly the thought of tasting the inside of the fish oil capsules, rancid or not disgusts me. I once did the same with a B-Complex and it tasted horrible.
With my description in mind, are my pills rancid after just opening them??? The expiration date is listed as 08/09, and they are of GNC brand. If they are then I will be MAJORLY pissed because I just wasted $15 for this shit. And that's on top of the hit I took for buying the "black market" fish oil. Aside from Vitamin Shoppe, I can't think of anywhere else remotely to buy fish oil as I don't have a credt card. Almost makes me wanna give this up............finding good, healthy pills has been a serious hit or miss for me, and when I miss it's at the expense of my money.
Later.
I understand how you feel bro, I've spent countless amounts of money just moving on from one product to another, it gets hard at times because you just want to find something that really works. I doubt it's bad, but try the freezer test if you don't want to do the bite test, but I really think you should bite into it and man up and do it because you don't want to take the wrong pills. If not, do the freezer test. If they are in fact rancid, you should probably send it back to gnc and say that it's rancid and you want your money back as it's a bad product.
is there no way you can find a friend who would buy online for you? And then pay them cash? In the end you will save a lot of money, or possibly go to walmart, their brand works too, and is cheap.
What were the freezer and bite test again exactly???
This morning I took just three of those pills and no more, and they are in my fridge until further notice. What pisses me off are the blatant claims of "Guaranteed Purity and Freshness" in the front of the bottle, and the fact that I JUST bought them and the expiration date is listed as August 2009.
What were the freezer and bite test again exactly???This morning I took just three of those pills and no more, and they are in my fridge until further notice. What pisses me off are the blatant claims of "Guaranteed Purity and Freshness" in the front of the bottle, and the fact that I JUST bought them and the expiration date is listed as August 2009.
Chances are they are probably fresh.
Do this, bite into one and if it has a bland taste, with a little fishy taste, it's fine. If it's rancid, it will taste like so.
I believe the freezer test is to put one in your freezer, it should stay clear and not become foggy.
Or was it that you had to cut it open and put it on ceram wrap (the sticky stretchy plastic material) and see if it clumps up or stays the same.
The final step you can take to insure freshness of your fish oil capsules is to bite into one and chew it. If it is rancid, youll know it. If it is, throw the whole batch out.
Still enoying that dramatic decrease in excess oil that started last Friday. Yesterday I didn't wash my face at night till like 10, while I usually feel so nasty that I need to wash as soon as I get home. Someone was asking if it decreases acne...yes, thats been the theme of this. Since ive started this my breakouts have decreased around 80 to 90% and are 99.9% less inflamed. LOVE this shit. love it.
Still enoying that dramatic decrease in excess oil that started last Friday. Yesterday I didn't wash my face at night till like 10, while I usually feel so nasty that I need to wash as soon as I get home. Someone was asking if it decreases acne...yes, thats been the theme of this. Since ive started this my breakouts have decreased around 80 to 90% and are 99.9% less inflamed. LOVE this shit. love it.
congrats :dance:
when did you start this? how many grams of Omega 3 supplements do you take? I noticed alot of people say on here to start out slow. Is it okay to start at 3 grams of omega 3's?
Still enoying that dramatic decrease in excess oil that started last Friday. Yesterday I didn't wash my face at night till like 10, while I usually feel so nasty that I need to wash as soon as I get home. Someone was asking if it decreases acne...yes, thats been the theme of this. Since ive started this my breakouts have decreased around 80 to 90% and are 99.9% less inflamed. LOVE this shit. love it.congrats :dance:
when did you start this? how many grams of Omega 3 supplements do you take? I noticed alot of people say on here to start out slow. Is it okay to start at 3 grams of omega 3's?
I started on Feb 26th....I take 12 1000mg capsules a day
I started out slow but thats because no one was really sure about how much to take...I dont know if there are any negative effects from taking a lot right from the start, but if you wanna be safe start at half or 3/4ths of the amount you wanna eventually take and work up to it over a 2 week span or something. I dont really think theres a risk though...bber is still alive.
Still enoying that dramatic decrease in excess oil that started last Friday. Yesterday I didn't wash my face at night till like 10, while I usually feel so nasty that I need to wash as soon as I get home. Someone was asking if it decreases acne...yes, thats been the theme of this. Since ive started this my breakouts have decreased around 80 to 90% and are 99.9% less inflamed. LOVE this shit. love it.
That is absolutely great news, congrats dude, seriously. I am glad we're all making positive progress over the months. So it is true, it does take a couple of months for this thing to start building up. Phew, it was a risk waiting that long but it was worth it. I wonder will happen to us another 4 months down the line, will we all be clear?