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sounds awesome!!so ur just going to quit GTE? i still want to take them because they are so good for u and super super anti-inflammatory... i wonder if i take them seperately it would make a difference... can GTE be taken on an empty stomach?
Yeah I will stop taking them because omega 3 is amuch more powerful anti-inflammatory as well ( http://www.newstarget.com/002367.html ) (also speaking of which I am replacing it with something else that has been talked about a lot but vanished within the past year, and will only bring it up if it works as good as people say it can. It's a direct anti inflammatory that has scientific backing just like omega 3's do). Correct, they are very good for you, but for the sake of what's happening, it's going to go away for a while since I'm much better without it. But it's good to know you have your options. If you can clear with both of them together, that would be awesome! Best of luck.
Some say take it 30 minutes before a meal to make it the most effective. So when you start eating, it already gets to work. But it can cause nauseous symptoms on an empty stomach.
Let me know how it goes for you. It's still too soon to tell for me, since 5 days really isn't much. But I can't afford to block fat, in any way 🙁 whether saturated or polyunsaturated.
okay... it seems like some ppl have success with both. i cant get over that post in the severe acne section, where that guy completely cured his red cystic acne with GTE (or at least got rid of the redness). it was phenomenal! although i have yet to see such fab results myself...
also, someone else said that GTE were making their red marks fade super fast.. which is really important for me, since i always have more red marks than active acne...
well i'll try to take them at diff times at least. i dont really care about the metabolism GTE provides... im already skinny as it is, and need to gain some muscle..
when did u start seeing results with fish oil? its been 2 weeks for me now... i think i had an IB or something... but it seems to be calming down somewhat...
sounds awesome!!so ur just going to quit GTE? i still want to take them because they are so good for u and super super anti-inflammatory... i wonder if i take them seperately it would make a difference... can GTE be taken on an empty stomach?
Yeah I will stop taking them because omega 3 is amuch more powerful anti-inflammatory as well ( http://www.newstarget.com/002367.html ) (also speaking of which I am replacing it with something else that has been talked about a lot but vanished within the past year, and will only bring it up if it works as good as people say it can. It's a direct anti inflammatory that has scientific backing just like omega 3's do). Correct, they are very good for you, but for the sake of what's happening, it's going to go away for a while since I'm much better without it. But it's good to know you have your options. If you can clear with both of them together, that would be awesome! Best of luck.
Some say take it 30 minutes before a meal to make it the most effective. So when you start eating, it already gets to work. But it can cause nauseous symptoms on an empty stomach.
Let me know how it goes for you. It's still too soon to tell for me, since 5 days really isn't much. But I can't afford to block fat, in any way 🙁 whether saturated or polyunsaturated.
okay... it seems like some ppl have success with both. i cant get over that post in the severe acne section, where that guy completely cured his red cystic acne with GTE (or at least got rid of the redness). it was phenomenal! although i have yet to see such fab results myself...
also, someone else said that GTE were making their red marks fade super fast.. which is really important for me, since i always have more red marks than active acne...
well i'll try to take them at diff times at least. i dont really care about the metabolism GTE provides... im already skinny as it is, and need to gain some muscle..
when did u start seeing results with fish oil? its been 2 weeks for me now... i think i had an IB or something... but it seems to be calming down somewhat...
Yup, no matter what you choose, it's a win win situation. The guy had amazing results, and all the links and information I found backs it up :dance:
With fish oil, green tea blocks absorption so my results were inconclusive (in terms of how fast it really worked since it worked sloolwwllyy). Now it's much better and faster. I only have one zit on my face now (hopefully no more show up or it doesn't spread), which bloomed before stopping green tea (it goes away slow because I don't use topicals).
I'll see what happens in two weeks time.
I don't like it when companies boast unsubstantiated claims either - the claims behind Carlson and Nordic and quite a few others have solid evidence to back them up. The evidence does not come from within the company, but from the CRN - I see this as reliable.
I feel exactly the same way, a lot of these companies use the term "pharmaceutical grade" as a sales pitch
Heres a paragraph about the claims of pharmaceutical grade fish oil by another company that participated in drafting the CRN:
And heres the nordic naturals page that says "International Pharmaceutical Standards" and that the US has no standards:
Exceeds International Pharmaceutical Standards
and also the blurb for their products
All Nordic Naturals products are doctor recommended, pharmaceutical grade, molecularly distilled, and third party tested to document the absence of all environmental pollutants (No PCBs, dioxins, pesticides or heavy metals). Our featured products are flavored using our patented processing with natural lemon and strawberry essence!
So theres no pcb's, dioxins pesticides or heavy metals at all? I find that hard to believe.
I'm not having a go at nordic naturals, i'm not saying use X brand over Z brand - just saying that the sales blurb for all of these kinds of products are only make you buy their brand over someone elses - the european health supplement market is worth around 7 billion dollars, now thats walking around money for a few fish pills....why didn't i think of this??? 😆
Dave
^Yes, I understand that. I'm not saying one should take Nordic or Carlson's just because of their marketing. What I'm saying is that their marketing isn't purely hype - there is independent testing to confirm the accuracy of their labels. You have to click the IFOS link, read about the company, and read the reports on each individual brand and variety of fish oil. They are organized into batch reports - there are some that do show very minute amounts of PCB's - nordic was not one of them. I don't even take nordic - I just find it disheartening when ppl refuse to believe anything because the marketing was good, especially when there is solid evidence.
The sum of thought regarding all of this was: check your label - not meaning read the label - meaning INVESTIGATE the label. I did that before I started this regimen and I am glad I did.
I am replacing it with something else that has been talked about a lot but vanished within the past year, and will only bring it up if it works as good as people say it can.What is it? come on, tell us! :rolleyes:
I am holding back for two reasons. I don't want people buying things randomly if it doesn't work (I'll be the guinea pig). And also because I am finding actual evidence to see if there's some real relation. :think: Give me a week, it could also be coincidental as well. I need to gather it all into a concise, but logical form since it's all very abstract right now.
yeah im giving props for him holding back since 99.9% of people on here cant hold back to post some bullshit that they think made their face look better for 2 days and draw others into it....hopefully its somethin good tho haha
Thanks, after realizing how I've wasted so much money in the past, I won't open my mouth anymore unless it really is worth it. What I'm taking... It has to do with one of the reasons why today we have more people with acne than in the past, there are two things which have changed...
the idea came from fish oil itself, the idea behind it, that since in today's society our diets have been infested with an abundance of bad fats, we totally forgot how important good fats were (and diets in general). This part came from food. The part I'm testing deals with something that counters environmental influences, a broader spectrum. I'll update soon. But oddly enough, so far I'm oil free. It's been 12 hours, not a single drop anymore, maybe I'm really narrowing it down, or maybe it's just the omega 3 working better after stopping green tea. That's what I am testing out to see if it's not a coincidence. But whatever I'm doing right now is working exceptional.
^Yes, I understand that. I'm not saying one should take Nordic or Carlson's just because of their marketing. What I'm saying is that their marketing isn't purely hype - there is independent testing to confirm the accuracy of their labels. You have to click the IFOS link, read about the company, and read the reports on each individual brand and variety of fish oil. They are organized into batch reports - there are some that do show very minute amounts of PCB's - nordic was not one of them. I don't even take nordic - I just find it disheartening when ppl refuse to believe anything because the marketing was good, especially when there is solid evidence.The sum of thought regarding all of this was: check your label - not meaning read the label - meaning INVESTIGATE the label. I did that before I started this regimen and I am glad I did.
Sorry to keep dragging this out - in a thread thats about the benefits of fish oil on acne and not about quality of products.
I did click the IFOS link, and heres another link that tells you what the IFOS actually is and explains what each of their 5 stars mean and why it isn't proof that any tested product is better. I'm not saying this article is perfect - but it's a good lowdown on the IFOS - don't forget that this page is still recommending a product to you at the end of the day.
The [testing] program provides a unique marketing tool for companies to profile omega-3 products to the market place and gain a competitive advantage.
The IFOS aren't regulated by anyone afaik, so they look much like another version of consumerlabs, which the CRN slammed fairly recently.
Did you know that the companies involved dissolved the CRN omega 3 working group, and some of them formed a trade association called "The Global Organization for EPA and DHA Omega-3" (GOED Omega-3). Sounds Fancy doesn't it? And who's involved?
GOED Board Of Directors:* Robert Orr, Ocean Nutrition Canada (Elected Chair)
* Thomas Grys, Denomega (Elected Vice Chair)
* Philip Fass, Martek Biosciences
* Baldur Hjaltason, EPAX
* Ian Newton, Ceres Consulting
* Bob Rasmus, Lipid Nutrition
* Olav Sandnes, Marine Nutraceuticals
* David Shannon, Croda Inc.
* Richard Weis, OmegaPure.
And the list that tells you what these peoples jobs are - by me
Robert Orr, CEO ONC
Thomas Grys, CEO Denomega
Philip Fass, vice president of sales and marketing at Martek Biosciences
Baldur Hjaltason sales manager for North America, Japan and China at Lysaker, Norway-based EPAX
Ian Newton, Managing Director, Ceres Consulting (A consulting business)
Bob Rasmus, sales director at Lipid Nutrition
Olav Sandnes, the owner of Marine Nutraceuticals
David Shannon sales director Croda Inc
Richard W. Weis, OmegaPures Vice President of Business Development
I wonder what this group of sales guys are concentrating on with regard to Omega 3 fish oil? Are they trying to improve the quality of the product or the labelling? 😆
Dave
Oh look,
in 2004, it was brought up before, the guy had lots of success with it
http://www.acne.org/messageboard/index.php...amp;hl=fish+oil
He sounds like me after I stopped green tea lol
*sigh* Ok Dave, I give up *waves white flag* I did not know that the CRN had been dissolved - that's f*d up. I did know everything about IFOS - and I still think it's better than buying walmart caps with no testing at all. Perhaps next time I go to the doc I'll request a blood test. I did a year with CLEARcorps - so I get them free. 
It has to do with one of the reasons why today we have more people with acne than in the past, there are two things which have changed...the idea came from fish oil itself, the idea behind it, that since in today's society our diets have been infested with an abundance of bad fats, we totally forgot how important good fats were (and diets in general). This part came from food. The part I'm testing deals with something that counters environmental influences, a broader spectrum.
Your barking up the right tree Ndn, keep us updated 😀
I think to make it a fair test i'm going to do rancid tests on my fish oil quite regularly. The bite test doesn't waste one and i get 1000 in a bottle anyway. I have done the bite taste once already and mine was fine. I will also try the freezer test. If this fish oil ends up being one of the most effective treatments we have in our arsenal, then some quality-testing is at hand. :w00t:
(btw i've gone up to 2.7 grams omega 3 for past 2 days.)
You recommend taking a bunch of fish oil pills throughout the day, but how can you be sure they're not just being flushed out with the urine?
You are right, some of it may, but you rather get a surplus, than not get enough in the beginning. When you get to where you want, you won't have to stay at such high levels, because maintenance doses are much lower :). Just as long as you increase it slowly (weekly) you will be fine. And going above 4 grams is not necessary either. Anywhere in between 3 to 4 grams is perfect. After that, the laws of diminishing returns apply (if you remember studying economics).
And you are right, right now even I know some of it probably escapes through urine, but it's okay 🙂 Peace of mind and clear skin is priceless. And soon I can lower it. I just kick myself in the ass for adding green tea into a high fat diet. Duh, I should have thought about that one, it was in my face lol.
I am replacing it with something else that has been talked about a lot but vanished within the past year, and will only bring it up if it works as good as people say it can.What is it? come on, tell us! :rolleyes:
I am holding back for two reasons. I don't want people buying things randomly if it doesn't work (I'll be the guinea pig). And also because I am finding actual evidence to see if there's some real relation. :think: Give me a week, it could also be coincidental as well. I need to gather it all into a concise, but logical form since it's all very abstract right now.
:shifty: You finally got it.
It has to do with one of the reasons why today we have more people with acne than in the past, there are two things which have changed...the idea came from fish oil itself, the idea behind it, that since in today's society our diets have been infested with an abundance of bad fats, we totally forgot how important good fats were (and diets in general). This part came from food. The part I'm testing deals with something that counters environmental influences, a broader spectrum.
Your barking up the right tree Ndn, keep us updated 😀
I think to make it a fair test i'm going to do rancid tests on my fish oil quite regularly. The bite test doesn't waste one and i get 1000 in a bottle anyway. I have done the bite taste once already and mine was fine. I will also try the freezer test. If this fish oil ends up being one of the most effective treatments we have in our arsenal, then some quality-testing is at hand. :w00t:
(btw i've gone up to 2.7 grams omega 3 for past 2 days.)
Which brand are you using? :think:
Hi Everyone,
I was wondering if you guys could tell me how many fish oil capsules i should be taking?
The brand i am currently using is called NATURE MADE: MAXIMUM STRENGTH OMEGA 3 FISH OIL 1200MG SUPPLEMENT, the EPA is 432mg and DHA is 288mg
Sorry for this dumb question. Im new to the board
thanks
Actually i have checked and it's 500 in a tub, 1000mg each. But still alot i know. I get them from Holland and barretts, a uk healthfood shop. They have a rep for good quality. I just wait for their monthly (or so) price drop, when they sell stuff for thrid or half price and get the tub from the local outlet for about 12 pounds. 
That report appears to be testing on a single product called ProOmega which i assume is for the US market? I assume those are the US CRN as the EU has different ones (we included other Omega 3's apparently). I personally still don't like companies that claim their products are pharmaceutical grade when they know that isn't true - no matter how good quality their products are or what testing they go through!I think were all agreed that the less contamination the better and i think if you've taken a product and in tend to take a product long term you have to be happy personally that you're taking the best precautions, after that you are relying on other people. And don't forget that these companies are their to make a profit, and all of them are trying to sell you their product over someone else's!
Dave
No, the link to a single analysis was for Nordic Naturals - the test was done by I.F.O.S. - a Canadian lab that does anlaysis for CRN.
I also posted a link to an archive of tested brands - all tested by IFOS. IFOS is not related in any way to Nordic, Carlson, etc. Pro Omega was the variety of Nordic Naturals.
I don't like it when companies boast unsubstantiated claims either - the claims behind Carlson and Nordic and quite a few others have solid evidence to back them up. The evidence does not come from within the company, but from the CRN - I see this as reliable.
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Emmanuel - we have no whole foods here 🙁 I'm thinking of ordering them online - but I fear the heat will turn them :sick:
I'm paying $29.95 for 130 capsules.
No whole foods My God, my heart goes out to you! lol
That's about the same price as my NN. I take the ultimate omega version.
For the person that said they'lljust take any one: Others have not been as good in my opinion. I've actualy taken some before NN and without even knowing NN was a good brand (bought it by fluke) I noticed the difference. Also, the Dr. said if it comes back on you, i.e. you burp fishy, it's a bad product. A lot of them do that. But it's totally up to you. I'd recommend doing the freezer test. I saw that on my local news.
my skin is also not doing too well, i think it is the tane wearing off again, and maybe the o6 overdose in nuts. should really stop eating them, otherwise i will never reach 1:1. thanks for the information on the GTE, will stop taking them as of 2day. awaiting the revelation!
my skin is also not doing too well, i think it is the tane wearing off again, and maybe the o6 overdose in nuts. should really stop eating them, otherwise i will never reach 1:1. thanks for the information on the GTE, will stop taking them as of 2day. awaiting the revelation!
If you are at a deficiency, you need to be over 1:1 for a few months to get to an equilibrium within a couple of months rather than in 6+ months (who knows how long it could really take?)
So please stop eating nuts and egg yolks, they kill. And how much omega 3 are you taking
Back again, after doing a bit of lurking...........
Well, my 1st bottle of GNC Fish Oil is nearing it's end and I'm wondering now whether to spring for another bottle (or in turn spring for another brand of bottle) or............hell I don't know.
I think because I've been taking them so on and off over the last month or so that the pills haven't been working as well as I figure they should. I've stopped and started numerous times because of some perceived "side effects" or because I felt the pills were taking a toll on my blood pressure (increased fatigue/sleepiness being the tell-tale sign). The most I've taken in a day so far is about 1.8 to 2.2 grams.
I ask though, getting all of those Omega-3's is fine and dandy, but are we ignoring the main ingredient in these pills, the fish oil??? My pills contain 1000mg of fish oil each. In taking all of these pills for their Omega-3's aren't we overloading much, much more on fish oil??? Any dangers or side effects of that???
And lastly, I've been reading you guys talking about the freshness of your pills and such. Well, on the front of the bottle of my pills it proclaims "Guaranteed purity and freshness". Should I take their word for it??? The inside of the bottle with all of the pills has had a strong, distinct smell (not necessarily bad, but "fishy" or "seafoody") ever since I first opened them, but I felt nothing when I took them (despite the pills being "lemon-flavored"). On the GNC website they mentioned in fine print that I should store the bottle inside a fridge, which is what I've been doing. Problem is the inside of my fridge becomes moist at times. Would and could that affect my pills??? Another issue is that my kitchen has little to no ventilation, so when there's cooking going on it almost always get hot, especially in the summer. Am I better off keeping the bottles in the (sometimes moist) fridge, outside the fridge or the (brrrrr!!!) freezer???
And one last thing, eating tons of the "Smart Balance Omega" Peanut Butter that I brought up a couple of days ago won't affect my fish oil diet, right??? Because the PB has become a daily staple of my breakfast. Yup, 4 toasted bread slices and at the end wash it down with a big glass of orange juice...............or is that too a detriment to my acne and fish oil diet DAMMIT??? *starts kicking and punching the air* I refuse to starve because of acne!
Please do forgive all of my questions and concerns. Any help would be appreciated, thanks!
Alright guys, I got blood work done on friday, should have my results this week. I have the old results to compare to so we can finally see if theres any good/bad effects of massive fish oil on cholesterol levels.
You recommend taking a bunch of fish oil pills throughout the day, but how can you be sure they're not just being flushed out with the urine?
Fat isn't flushed out with urine.