THIS PRODUCT is regularly tested (using AOAC international protocols) for freshness, potency and purity by an independent, FDA-registered laboratory and has been determined to be fresh, fully potent and free of detectable levels of mercury, cadmium, lead, PCB's and 28 other contaminants.

 

Exceeds International Pharmaceutical Standards - Standards are set to protect consumers

Fish oil quality standards do not exist in the United States. To ensure ongoing quality, Nordic Naturals adheres to and exceeds the stringent Norwegian Medicinal Standard (NMS) and the European Pharmacopoeia Standard (EPS) for all products. These standards guarantee quality products by setting maximum allowances on peroxides, heavy metals, dioxins, furans, and PCBs.

Gotta love the labelling and things that companies say about their supplements. I assume the AOAC is an American standard and as usual they say international even though i've not heard much about them on this side of the pond - maybe other parts of the world? Almost every country seems to have their own levels of safety for things like contamination in food or supplements (even if they don't have specific ones for Omega 3), as in Europe most countries have their own plus the EU ones on top.

I'm also not sure what the "International Pharmaceutical Standards" are - is it something todo with FIP (International Pharmaceutical Federation) or is it just something they say - who sets the standards and what are they? *Update* After spending a long time on their website it appears that by "International Pharmaceutical Standards" they mean "Norwegian Medicinal Standard" (NMS) and the "European Pharmacopoeia Standard" (EPS) - i really don't like it when companies stick "International" on everything when it's not.

As for the "stringent Norwegian Medicinal Standard" as specified on the nordic naturals website doesn't seem as stringent as the Belgium maximum levels and is exactly the same as the European standard where the European standard actually has specified a limit. So i guess the term "stringent" depends on what you compare it against. i know the European standards and they are quiet different to any other standards, and fairly lax as far as i'm concerned, with some toxins having no maximum level set and some with what i consider to be fairly high levels - i have no idea why this is, but it's europe and thats just how it is.

You might find it interesting to know that in 2002 (with an update in 2006) the CRN came up with a voluntary standard for Omega 3 supplements and Nordic Naturals took part in creating the standard - yet they don't seem to say compliance to the standard, as surely the point of making this standard was making sure that we all get the best quality lowest contaminated omega 3.

CRN Omega 3 Voluntary Standard

I don't think you can go just by price either, just because it costs more doesn't mean it's better. As with all supplements, I just try to pick a decent brand, one that i hope will do the best at not poisoning me 😆

Dave

 

Here are the CRN standards:

Fish oil standards are set forth by The Council for Responsible Nutrition (CRN):

Acid value: Maximum 3 mg KOH/g

Peroxide value: Maximum 5 meq/kg

Anisidine value: Maximum 20

TOTOX: Maximum 26

PCDDs (dioxins) & PCDFs (furans): Maximum 2 pg

PCBs: Less then 0.09 mg/kg

Heavy Metals:

Lead (Pb): Less than 0.1 mg/kg

Cadmium (Cd): Less than 0.1 mg/kg

Mercury (Hg): Less than 0.1 mg/kg

Arsenic (As): Less than 0.1 mg/kg

Nordic Naturals Analysis

link to brands that received a five star report

^^Scroll down to the brand list and click to review the individual reports

In Washington DC, the Council For Responsible Nutrition (CRN), has developed a quality standard system called the Omega-3 Monograph. Each supplement is run through a battery of test and must pass each one. Currently there are eighteen companies complying with the CRN Monograph. Below is a list copied from the CRN website, of omega-3 supplement products that are approved by the CRN.

* Carlson Super Omega-3 Fish Oils 1000mg

* Coromega omega-3 Fish Oil

*CVS pharmacy Natural Fish Oil Concentrate 1000 mg

* GNC Preventive Nutrition Omega Complex

* Nature's Bounty Cold Water Salmon Oil 1000mg

* Nutrilite Omega 3 Complex

* OLAY Vitamins essential balanced omega 3/6, Enteric Coated for Better Digestion

*Omega Brite 100% Natural Advanced Omega 3 Formula, 500 mg

*PhytoPharmica ESKIMO-3 Naturally Stable Fish Oil

*Puritan's Pride Cholesterol Free Fish Oil 1200mg

*Puritan's Pride Cholesterol Free Natural Fish Oil EPA 1000mg

*Puritan's Pride Triple Omega 3-6-9 Flax, Fish & Borage Oil

*Flax, Fish, Borage Oil

*Spring Valley Fish Oil 1200 mg

*Sundown Fish Oil 1000mg

*The Vitamin Shoppe Essential Oils & Fatty Acids EPA-DHA Omega-3 Fish Oil 500

*Triomega Omega-3

*Vitamin World Cholesterol Free Fish Oil 1200mg

*Vitamin World Naturally Inspired Omega-3 Fish Oil 1000mg Cholesterol-Free

*Vitamin World Naturally Inspired Super EPA Natural Fish Oil 1000mg Cholesterol-Free

*Vitamin World Triple Omega 3-6-9 Flax, Fish & Borage Oil

*Carlson Norwegian Cod Liver Oil

That report appears to be testing on a single product called ProOmega which i assume is for the US market? I assume those are the US CRN as the EU has different ones (we included other Omega 3's apparently). I personally still don't like companies that claim their products are pharmaceutical grade when they know that isn't true - no matter how good quality their products are or what testing they go through!

I think were all agreed that the less contamination the better and i think if you've taken a product and in tend to take a product long term you have to be happy personally that you're taking the best precautions, after that you are relying on other people. And don't forget that these companies are their to make a profit, and all of them are trying to sell you their product over someone else's!

Dave

Just purchased a differant brand of fish oil, was originally taking a GNC brand, This one has the same properties as the last, its fish oil 1000, basically 1g per tablet with 180 & 120mg of epa and dha. What i found interesting was that it said " for maximum results and overall health take 3 capsules 3 times daily. Originally i had only been taking 3 capsules daily and saw great results, i also thought 3 was the healthy limit.

Just purchased a differant brand of fish oil, was originally taking a GNC brand, This one has the same properties as the last, its fish oil 1000, basically 1g per tablet with 180 & 120mg of epa and dha. What i found interesting was that it said " for maximum results and overall health take 3 capsules 3 times daily. Originally i had only been taking 3 capsules daily and saw great results, i also thought 3 was the healthy limit.

Now you know =). I'm glad you had great results on 3 capsules, if you feel comfortable, you can keep it at that, and increase it if you want better results.

Hey guys, some questions I'd like to ask, the search function didn't work as well as I'd have hoped, sorry about that.

1) Anyone tried the NOW brand? ([Removed]) It seems quite decent enough, because it's the only easily available brand that carries fish oil capsules around my place.

2) Anyone with severe acne (not cystic, just severe) gotten it to reduce inflammation after 3 months or more?

3) How would you guys classify the amount of sebum production that decreased from taking the fish oil supplements? I've an awfully oily skin that's the main source of my severe acne.

I couldn't get the Green Tea Extract experiment to work, so I'm quite depressed right now.

darknezx said:

Hey guys, some questions I'd like to ask, the search function didn't work as well as I'd have hoped, sorry about that.

1) Anyone tried the NOW brand? ([Removed]) It seems quite decent enough, because it's the only easily available brand that carries fish oil capsules around my place.

2) Anyone with severe acne (not cystic, just severe) gotten it to reduce inflammation after 3 months or more?

3) How would you guys classify the amount of sebum production that decreased from taking the fish oil supplements? I've an awfully oily skin that's the main source of my severe acne.

I couldn't get the Green Tea Extract experiment to work, so I'm quite depressed right now.

Well you're in luck, fish oil works superiorly to green tea for a few reasons. Even though the EGCg content in green tea is the main ingredient responsible for hormone regulation, it's not as poweful as omega 3 is for regulating excess androgens, which is the primary cause of excessively oily skin and cystic acne, as well as regulating keratin production.

NOW is a very good brand, however, it is expensive so if you can, please order member's mark online if possible, it's the cheapest for a good quality brand (it's pennies to the gram).

Most of here have not used a high dosage (4 grams) for 3 months straight yet, but most people start seeing promising results in 3 weeks time. I really feel this can benefit your condition. Not sure if it will "cure" your acne, but it will definitely help lessen the effect.

A poster by the ID of 'bber' used a high dose and mentioned how he had severe acne before with excessive oil and his oil production is not a bother anymore. I am the same way now, but granted I never had cystic acne, but oily skin was a problem. Now I don't even blot at all in a day. I would have never expected that.

Don't be depressed bro We're here for ya!

I hope that answers all your questions. About the sebum production, I know it's directly connected to a few things. From what I've read, primarily it comes from balancing your hormones by regulating excess androgens. 2) feeds the right oils to your sebaceous glands hence stopping it from being viscous and 3) stops the extra production of keratin.

Try it out, if you have any questions at all, feel free to ask We're all here to help you the best we can.

If you browse around this sight, people are starting to clear from it (some threads mention how they got clear from fish oil capsules alone). So perhaps it should help you greatly, but not sure if it will completely cure you, but it should relieve a lot of your pain.

Start out with the NOW brand if you are really curious for a test run, and continue with ordering online in bulk if you want to commit.

Hope that helps!

Thanks for the reply, really appreciated it.

Last question though, I've just started to take Sesamin with Schisandra extract to help clear the liver by stimulating the production of liver enzymes, was wondering if this fish oil will be cleared by the extract? If not then I guess it'll be safe to take them together.

Thanks again!

Thanks for the reply, really appreciated it.

Last question though, I've just started to take Sesamin with Schisandra extract to help clear the liver by stimulating the production of liver enzymes, was wondering if this fish oil will be cleared by the extract? If not then I guess it'll be safe to take them together.

Thanks again!

I really can't speak on behalf the interactions of these products together, but I found that it may be best to try them soley first, as you don't wan to jeopardize your progress. More often than not your digestive enzymes are fine.

What's your diet like right now?

p.s. I've decided to go ahead and put up the 'updating the search feature' suggestion in the suggestion area.

Well, my diet consists of some fried food often, but I don't really have a choice of skipping it since I'm in a conscripted army and I've to eat whatever they give.

I eat lots of fruits, something like 4 servings everyday. 2 oranges and 2 apples are quite normal for me, resulting in good bowel movements. Water, maybe about 6-7 litres a day. I can't really fault my diet though, yet I still get severe acne!

I came up with the Sesamin with Schisandra extract because of the chinese herbal treatments which recommended this for puberty acne, which I guess applies to me since I'm 18.

Well, my diet consists of some fried food often, but I don't really have a choice of skipping it since I'm in a conscripted army and I've to eat whatever they give.

I eat lots of fruits, something like 4 servings everyday. 2 oranges and 2 apples are quite normal for me, resulting in good bowel movements. Water, maybe about 6-7 litres a day. I can't really fault my diet though, yet I still get severe acne!

I came up with the Sesamin with Schisandra extract because of the chinese herbal treatments which recommended this for puberty acne, which I guess applies to me since I'm 18.

Your diet is pretty good! I think you're a perfect candidate for omega 3. The good thing is with fried food it should help absorb it better, so don't worry so much about that. Try it out for sure!

Thank you, I'll try popping by the store at the mall to grab some.

Just a question, are there any foods that one should try to take lesser amounts of while on this extract? I'm thinking that I should be lowering my omega-6 intake, which means I should eat little eggs and chicken?

i take accutane 30 mg/day and now 2000mg of omega 3(made by Doppel Hertz, Queisser)--- german company.

I dont think theres any problem between these 2 medicine isnt? Or i shouldnt take it both? I have to mention that i take accutane for 4 months

Im taking them for my oil emission, and i hope i can get some results!

i take accutane 30 mg/day and now 2000mg of omega 3(made by Doppel Hertz, Queisser)--- german company.

I dont think theres any problem between these 2 medicine isnt? Or i shouldnt take it both? I have to mention that i take accutane for 4 months

Im taking them for my oil emission, and i hope i can get some results!

No, there's no harm. In fact, fish oil is recommended a lot of times for those on accutane to help with joint pain/stiffness.

Just a question, are there any foods that one should try to take lesser amounts of while on this extract? I'm thinking that I should be lowering my omega-6 intake, which means I should eat little eggs and chicken?

I wouldn't cut out chicken or meat.

Eggs can be high.

The biggest offenders in high omega-6 content are nuts/ seeds and vegetable oils and anything made with vegetable oils. THis means lowering your intake of any baked or fried foods such as cookies, cake, chips, fried chicken anything of that nature.

My suggestion to you would be to go to nutritiondata.com and look up all the foods you eat on a daily basis and get to know what, exactly, you are eating.

Sometimes I want them to regulate supplements. I can't help but wonder if the "Vitamin C" I buy is really vitamin C at all, how pure it is...you get my drift. Sometimes I feel I'm being duped! That pisses me off! I spend a fortune for what is supposed to be high quality stuff and it could be all rice powder for christ's sakes!

Make no mistake, these supplement honchos are just as whorish as the drug companies. Someone needs to take up our rights to know what we get is in fact what we paid for and safe. I don't think they should be pulled. I think they should be regulated like any other OTC product.

Did you know they have pharmaceutical grade omegas? I'd sure like to get my hands on that stuff. It would be like pharmaceutical grade cocaine - pure, and you know what you're getting. I don't do cocaine, but it's a good analogy.

Ok - you got me thinking! 😀 I quoted this f/the other thread since my response is fih oil related:

 

There are three grades of fish oil. The first is cod liver oil. The second is health-food grade fish oil. And finally there is ultra-refined fish oil. What distinguishes one from another is the purity and concentration of the long-chain omega-3 fatty acids. More importantly, the long-term use of any fish oil is compromised by its impact on the gastric system which ultimately determines the amounts that you can take. Each step in the refining process adds additional cost to the final product, but the increased purity justifies the cost and the benefits.

Cod Liver Oil

This is the lowest quality fish oil since it has a low concentration of long-chain omega-3 fatty acids and contains the highest levels of contaminants (organic mercury, PCB's, and DDT). In addition, high-dose usage of cod liver oil is not recommended due to the high levels of Vitamin A found in this form of fish oil. Typically, a tablespoon of cod liver oil contains approximately 2.5 grams of long-chain omega-3 fatty acids. Although this is the most inexpensive form of fish oil, long-term compliance is exceptionally poor because of its taste profile.

Health Food-grade Fish Oils

The levels of contaminants in fish oils is often determined by the size of the fish and their relative rank in the food chain. Small fish (such as sardines and anchovies) are short-lived and therefore are less prone to accumulate environmental pollutants. On the other hand, larger fish such as salmon and mackerel are predatory species that are long-lived and therefore contain higher levels of pollutants. Most health-food grade fish oils are fish body oils extracted from the fish. If the label says it comes from a particular species of fish (i.e. salmon oil) then you know it is a health-food grade fish oil. These oils are only sold in soft gelatin capsules because they still have an extremely poor taste profile (to see why, simply bite into a capsule to release the oil). A slightly more purified type of health food grade fish oil includes those that have been subjected to a very limited amount of molecular distillation to remove some of the cholesterol in order to be labeled 'cholesterol-free'. A typical one-gram capsule of health-food grade fish oil contains approximately 300 mg. of long-chain omega-3 fatty acids. Another type of higher-grade health-food fish oil is known as "fish oil concentrate". This type of fish oil consists of ethyl esters of the fish oil that has been subjected to fractional cooling. The more saturated fats will solidify, leaving behind a more concentrated solution of long-chain omega-3 fatty acids. However, this fractional cooling does not remove the PCB's or the long-chain monoene fatty acids that give rise to significant gastric distress. A one-gram capsule of this thermally fractionated health-food grade fish oil will contain up to 500 mg. of long-chain omega-3 fatty acids.

Health-food grade fish oils are acceptable in small amounts (no more than 3-4 capsules per day) without inducing significant gastric problems. However, higher doses require a much more purified type of oil; ultra-refined fish oil.

Ultra-Refined Fish Oil

Ultra-refined fish oil starts with thermally fractionated health-food fish oil that is then distilled by highly complex refining technology into fractions rich in long-chain omega-3 fatty acids that are exceptionally low in the long-chain monoenes (that cause gastric distress) and pollutants such as PCB's and oxidized and polymerized lipids. The individual fractions are then combined to provide the most appropriate balance of EPA and DHA for the finished oil. The typical one-gram capsule of ultra-refined fish oil will have at least 600 mg. of long-chain omega-3 fatty acids. This may not seem a major concentration improvement compared to the health-food grade fish oils, however, the increase in the purity of the oil is why it costs nearly twice as much. This purity is also reflected in a dramatically improved taste profile.

Only ultra-refined fish oils enable you to consume the required daily intake of long-chain omega-3 fatty acids needed to alter eicosanoid synthesis without gastric distress or fear of accumulation of environmental pollutants.

Note: Vitamin E is often included in fish oils as a preservative. At low levels, approximately 5 I.U./gram of fish oil, it is protective. At higher levels, such as 20 I.U./gram of fish oil, it can actually speed up the oxidative process.

According to this I am consuming Ultra-Refined fish oil

 

Which brand so you use? How do you know it's the ultra-refined quality?

 

I use Carlson Super Omega-3 Fish Oil Concentrate. On the label:

 

THIS PRODUCT is regularly tested (using AOAC international protocols) for freshness, potency and purity by an independent, FDA-registered laboratory and has been determined to be fresh, fully potent and free of detectable levels of mercury, cadmium, lead, PCB's and 28 other contaminants.

I believe your Nordic Natural are far superior though - I'm trying to convince my health food store to carry them for me. From the Nordic site:

 

Exceeds International Pharmaceutical Standards - Standards are set to protect consumers

Fish oil quality standards do not exist in the United States. To ensure ongoing quality, Nordic Naturals adheres to and exceeds the stringent Norwegian Medicinal Standard (NMS) and the European Pharmacopoeia Standard (EPS) for all products. These standards guarantee quality products by setting maximum allowances on peroxides, heavy metals, dioxins, furans, and PCBs.

Exceptional Freshness Levels

Freshness, which ensures product integrity and biological efficacy, may be the single most important quality of fish oils. Nordic Naturals patented, oxygen-free manufacturing process delivers peroxide values (indicators of freshness) down to absolute 0.0 mEq/kg, with an average of 0.75 mEq/kg or approximately 14 times below the Norwegian Medicinal Standard and European Pharmacopoeia Standard limits. The lower the peroxide value, the fresher the fish oil.

Exceptional Purity Levels - Purity is a significant concern among fish oil consumers

Nordic Naturals raw material is harvested from some of the cleanest waters in the world, and is tested by independent laboratories for heavy metals and over 210 other environmental contaminants.

Award-Winning Taste

The key objections to taking fish oils are taste and aftertaste. Nordic Naturals utilizes a proprietary enzymatic process to ensure a completely repeat-free product. Our patented manufacturing process adds natural fruit essences into both the capsule and oil for a light, fruity taste.

 

Your store doesn't carry them? That stinks. I know Whole Foods carries them. Have you checked there? Your brand got good results as well. Are your's pricey?

Just purchased a differant brand of fish oil, was originally taking a GNC brand, This one has the same properties as the last, its fish oil 1000, basically 1g per tablet with 180 & 120mg of epa and dha. What i found interesting was that it said " for maximum results and overall health take 3 capsules 3 times daily. Originally i had only been taking 3 capsules daily and saw great results, i also thought 3 was the healthy limit.

That's 9 grams! I wouldn't go over 4 grams, personally. Maybe they meant: take the three tablets three separate times a day.

i take accutane 30 mg/day and now 2000mg of omega 3(made by Doppel Hertz, Queisser)--- german company.

I dont think theres any problem between these 2 medicine isnt? Or i shouldnt take it both? I have to mention that i take accutane for 4 months

Im taking them for my oil emission, and i hope i can get some results!

It was accutane that started me taking my omegas. I took them to prevent bone pain and to help prevent my skin from getting too dry. I never had dry skin on 'tane, but then again, I was so oily before tane, that it just made my skin normal. Also, this may be just coincidence, but after I started my omegas is when my skin really got clear on the tane. I didn't see a correlation then, but now I wonder if it is so.

How are you doing on 'tane? It was the best thing ever for me, but I guess my sig quote gave that away!

By the way, my skin is getting back to normal again since I went back to my omegas, but I knew it would. 🙂

I want to say, I don't know if it will clear up severe acne, but I think it will help. I think it would work really well as an adjunct treatment for severe acne - like using it in combo with topicals. For minor acne and oil it can't be beat, in my opinion anyway.

3 capsules 3 times a day is 2.7g of o3. Probably a decent amount to start with. Either way it won't kill you.

That report appears to be testing on a single product called ProOmega which i assume is for the US market? I assume those are the US CRN as the EU has different ones (we included other Omega 3's apparently). I personally still don't like companies that claim their products are pharmaceutical grade when they know that isn't true - no matter how good quality their products are or what testing they go through!

I think were all agreed that the less contamination the better and i think if you've taken a product and in tend to take a product long term you have to be happy personally that you're taking the best precautions, after that you are relying on other people. And don't forget that these companies are their to make a profit, and all of them are trying to sell you their product over someone else's!

Dave

No, the link to a single analysis was for Nordic Naturals - the test was done by I.F.O.S. - a Canadian lab that does anlaysis for CRN.

I also posted a link to an archive of tested brands - all tested by IFOS. IFOS is not related in any way to Nordic, Carlson, etc. Pro Omega was the variety of Nordic Naturals.

I don't like it when companies boast unsubstantiated claims either - the claims behind Carlson and Nordic and quite a few others have solid evidence to back them up. The evidence does not come from within the company, but from the CRN - I see this as reliable.

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Emmanuel - we have no whole foods here 🙁 I'm thinking of ordering them online - but I fear the heat will turn them :sick:

I'm paying $29.95 for 130 capsules.

Um...so I've heard that your sweat starts smelling like fish if you take a lot of fish oil? I don't want to smell like fish. 🙁

What? Where did you hear that from and how is that physically possible?

Just a question, are there any foods that one should try to take lesser amounts of while on this extract? I'm thinking that I should be lowering my omega-6 intake, which means I should eat little eggs and chicken?

I wouldn't cut out chicken or meat.

Eggs can be high.

The biggest offenders in high omega-6 content are nuts/ seeds and vegetable oils and anything made with vegetable oils. THis means lowering your intake of any baked or fried foods such as cookies, cake, chips, fried chicken anything of that nature.

My suggestion to you would be to go to nutritiondata.com and look up all the foods you eat on a daily basis and get to know what, exactly, you are eating.

 

Eat omega-3 eggs. Aren't nuts mostly monounsaturated omega-9 oleic acid? Omega-9 is mostly irrelevent to the 3:6 ratio and can be consumed in pretty good quantities. Vegetable oils are without a doubt the worst offenders, cook with coconut oil and olive oil.

Personally, I do eat omega-3 eggs. The balance is still somewhat tipped towards the omega-6 side, though. Depends on the eggs. I get Land o' lakes breand which claims to have 350 mgs of o3, but it still contains about 1,000 mg of o6. Still within a good range, but many people here are opting for a initial phase of 1:1 to rebalance. Like I said, I eat eggs 3-4 times a week, so I have no problem.

According to nutrition data, almonds still have about 3.4 grams of linoleic acid along with the about 9 grams of oleic. And that's only for a 1 oz. serving. 3.4 grams is quite a bit for such a small amount. To balance that with fish oil would prove difficult. In moderation, everything is fine, I feel, but for this initial loading phase that some are keen on, nuts would provethis task to be very difficult.

Yeah, I agree with you somewhat. I'm not a fan of cutting out entire food groups, at least not long term. Exceptions being junk food, at least as a dietary staple ( I indulge every now and then). Nuts and eggs and things like flax seed have great benefits and shouldn't be demonized because of just one aspect (high o6 content) That's why my suggestion is that people go to nutrition data and see for themselves the content of their food. I know I was surprised as hell at some of the things I found. I doubt I am the only one.

http://www.nutritiondata.com/facts-C00001-01c20nl.html

Um...so I've heard that your sweat starts smelling like fish if you take a lot of fish oil? I don't want to smell like fish. 🙁

That's true.

Also, if you eat a watermelon seed, a watermelon will grow in your stomach. Bad news. I've seen this happen before...it gets really messy...

Small update:

I don't want to jinx myself, but for the past 2 weeks, my body oil production has stop producing in excess. My chest and upper back feel like my lower back and stomach. Not a hint of oil even when 24 hours have elapsed. My back is smooth now. There are some spots that do not hurt (the skin that is flattened from a previous zit), apparently it takes forever for it to completely go away. But there is no actives anymore on my back and body, it's all just flat bumps that haven't completely gone. All I now use is water and nothing else, no moisturizer, nothing. It took a while, but in two weeks to three weeks, it automatically evens itself out. For the first week or so, it just felt dry as anything, but now it's smooth even without moisturizer. It's amazing how the skin adapts.

Also, after stopping green tea, I feel the effects much more notable, not just on my skin but in my mood. I feel much more constant. Perhaps it was true how green tea was interfering with the absorption of fats, not sure, but for the past 5 days, it's been better than the continual progress I've been having. So good in fact that yesterday, I never blotted the whole day. I got a little oily on my face, but nothing to be concerned about because it didn't keep increasing. And when I did wash, I felt no new bumps or any clogged pores. A great sign, very confident feeling.

I guess I would have my results sooner if I had never introduced green tea to begin with. But it's okay, you learn through personal experience, I guess that's a good thing. I'll still wait and see if I want to stop taking it, but I think that is the way it's heading.

If so then It's a shame, I have 4 bottles just sitting here since I ordered in bulk. I'll just give them to my parents to use.

Small update:

I don't want to jinx myself, but for the past 2 weeks, my body oil production has stop producing in excess. My chest and upper back feel like my lower back and stomach. Not a hint of oil even when 24 hours have elapsed. My back is smooth now. There are some spots that do not hurt (the skin that is flattened from a previous zit), apparently it takes forever for it to completely go away. But there is no actives anymore on my back and body, it's all just flat bumps that haven't completely gone. All I now use is water and nothing else, no moisturizer, nothing. It took a while, but in two weeks to three weeks, it automatically evens itself out. For the first week or so, it just felt dry as anything, but now it's smooth even without moisturizer. It's amazing how the skin adapts.

Also, after stopping green tea, I feel the effects much more notable, not just on my skin but in my mood. I feel much more constant. Perhaps it was true how green tea was interfering with the absorption of fats, not sure, but for the past 5 days, it's been better than the continual progress I've been having. So good in fact that yesterday, I never blotted the whole day. I got a little oily on my face, but nothing to be concerned about because it didn't keep increasing. And when I did wash, I felt no new bumps or any clogged pores. A great sign, very confident feeling.

I guess I would have my results sooner if I had never introduced green tea to begin with. But it's okay, you learn through personal experience, I guess that's a good thing. I'll still wait and see if I want to stop taking it, but I think that is the way it's heading. :think:

If so then It's a shame, I have 4 bottles just sitting here since I ordered in bulk. I'll just give them to my parents to use.

sounds awesome!!

so ur just going to quit GTE? i still want to take them because they are so good for u and super super anti-inflammatory... i wonder if i take them seperately it would make a difference... can GTE be taken on an empty stomach?

sounds awesome!!

so ur just going to quit GTE? i still want to take them because they are so good for u and super super anti-inflammatory... i wonder if i take them seperately it would make a difference... can GTE be taken on an empty stomach?

Yeah I will stop taking them because omega 3 is amuch more powerful anti-inflammatory as well ( http://www.newstarget.com/002367.html ) (also speaking of which I am replacing it with something else that has been talked about a lot but vanished within the past year, and will only bring it up if it works as good as people say it can. It's a direct anti inflammatory that has scientific backing just like omega 3's do). Correct, they are very good for you, but for the sake of what's happening, it's going to go away for a while since I'm much better without it. But it's good to know you have your options. If you can clear with both of them together, that would be awesome! Best of luck.

Some say take it 30 minutes before a meal to make it the most effective. So when you start eating, it already gets to work. But it can cause nauseous symptoms on an empty stomach.

Let me know how it goes for you. It's still too soon to tell for me, since 5 days really isn't much. But I can't afford to block fat, in any way 🙁 whether saturated or polyunsaturated.