from me going from 6 pills to 8 to 12 I've broken out a lot and I really don't know what has attributed to me having such a big breakout before I had never had such a big break out in god knows how long. But after increasing my dosage of fish oil it seems to have affected my skin ><;; ekkk I look horrible now.Here's some questions:
What else are you taking? Also, what contributed it to the break out? Do you have lots of dead skin, or lots of oil being produced? Did you slip up on anything else?
Also, are you allergic to fish? Or have any known allergies to any of the ingredients? If so, switch to liquid.
Now, how fast did you increase your dosage? Tell me everything from day 1.
Well at first I was taking pantothenic acid 3 500 mg pills then increased it to 6 and took 1 multivitamin. THen I started taking pantothenic acid. I have a lot of oil yes I think now there is not as much oil as I had before taking any of these supplements. Nope I'm not at all allergic to fish. well at first I started off with 6 pills a day for 2-3 weeks and then I slowly did 8 pills a day for a week and now I'm eating 12 pills a day. I don't know maybe I increased it too fast and my body isn't handling that well? I'm not sure.
More observations:
I'm finding that fish oil definitely has a positive and measurable effect on my skin. I'm also finding that it's not a magic pill and I have to maintain a relatively good diet consisting of foods that aren't a problem for me, and getting enough rest / exercise to really have good skin. On top of that, I suspect Wild Oats brand of fish oil has mercury / PCB's in it because it doesn't say it's molecularly distilled and I've been making little speech slurs lately (mixing up words mostly) and that's a pretty apparent sign of mercury in your brain, I've been told.
Hi I just bought Nature Made omega 3 fish oil 1200 mg. On the back it says fish oil concentrate 2400mg then under that it says epa - 432mg and dha 288mg can you tell me how many I need to take a day? Thanks!
Before I answer, is it one pill per serving? Then I can tell you exactly what to do.
Hey guys, sorry for the delay but I'll have to respond tomorrow. I'm behind on my studying so I'm cramped for time, sorry about that 🙁
I thought I'd introduce myself here. I'm currently 35 and have suffered from acne since I was 16. I've been on accutane twice. I was off of accutane in the middle part of 2001.I've been breaking out a lot more recently, w/ some cystic acne on my neck and near my jaw line. The "stage coach" started turning back into a "pumpkin" so to speak. I do have to wear a shirt and tie to work, so I attribute some of my acne to the irritation I experience wearing a starched shirt and shaving.
I was taking fish oil for the past couple of years to help aid in maintaining my blood pressure. I then switched to flaxseed oil in December of 06 and continued to use it until about a week ago. When I made the switch to Flaxseed I wasn't really breaking out that bad. Just a couple of pimples here and there. During February & March, I noticed that I was breaking out a little bit more and my acne started to become cystic. I never made any correlation that the fish oil might have kept the more severe acne at bay.
This is what intrigued me about this thread. Great information to all of those that contributed and continue to contribute btw. I've been taking fish oil now for a little over a week and have noticed that the amount of my cystic acne subsided. Instead of having several rise up at one time, I've only got one that I'm currently dealing with. I've still got the little "reminders" on my face from a couple of weeks ago, but they're slowly beginning to fade.
Anyway, I'm taking 9 1200mg capsules of fish oil along w/ multivitamins, milk thistle, & garlic pills to maintain my overall health. I saw a thread about the green tea extract capsules and have since ordered a couple of bottles to add to my supplement regimen.
In my opinion, I don't think this will make my skin perfect by any means. But should keep the acne to a tolerable level for me. I'm just hoping for the best like everyone else.
So far it seems to be working. I'll chime in from time to time to let you know how things are going.
-Charles
id also recommend considering cutting your sugar intake way way down to 30 grams or less per day, do it for two weeks and see what happens.
and if you need more calories get them from fat, a little from organic whole milk and alot from coconut oil/coconut. this will ensure that you have plenty of energy through the day yet dont turn to sugars for that energy and also dont lose too much weight.
Thought I'd throw an update of my progress in here
My skin looks better (not right now because I fried it with tazorac a few days ago), skin is still oily, just thinner oil.
My hair is growing like CRAZY. I decided to cut all my hair off this year and now it seems like I need a MONTHLY hair cut. It's a hell of alot healthier but that may be caused by stopping highlighting my hair.
I've found a couple of different fish oils available in the UK for anyone who's interested:
http://www.naturesbest.co.uk/product.asp?pf_id=516 This is a high dosage fish oil. 640mg of Omega 3 in each capsule. If you take 4 a day (i.e. just over 2.5g) and buy the big bottle it works out at about 35p a day.
http://www.vitasunn.co.uk/webdocs/Items/Details44.cfm Kirkland fish oil - This one was recommended on a link by ndnromeo. Have found this website which supplies it in UK, its on offer for A9.99 for 400 caps at the moment but they are out of stock! Will be very cheap when its in stock though. 300mg of Omega 3 in each capsule so 8 per day, 2.4g in total works out at about 22p per day.
http://www.hollandandbarrett.com/pages/pro...=0&cPID=807 This has 300mg in each capsule so for 2.4g a day works out at about 32p if you get the big 500 cap bottle which is on offer 3 for 2 at the minute.
Don't know which is the best one - the holland and barrett one has Vit E added - is this good or not? I checked Boots out and they all seemed very expensive. I think I'll be going for the naturesbest one until the Kirkland becomes available.
Hi I just bought Nature Made omega 3 fish oil 1200 mg. On the back it says fish oil concentrate 2400mg then under that it says epa - 432mg and dha 288mg can you tell me how many I need to take a day? Thanks!
Those are the ones I take, I usually take like 8-9 a day but just recently upped the dose so the advantages arent apparent yet. but make sure you buy the ones that say no fish burps if you dont like tasting fish half way thru the day :sick:
I'm no expert, but i have spent a fair amount of time reading through Omega3 research. I figured if i was going to take large doses of anything i'd find out as much about the current thoughts on it as i can. (one of the reasons i'm not taking b5).
Virtually all the Omega3 supplements should include some vitamin E for safety, as it could possibly cause vitamin E deficiency (so you take it just in case, as it would hurt you more if you became deficient rather than having a little extra). However, the amount needed for safety seems to be unknown at this time as a lot of different supplements have differing amounts of vitamin E.
The supplement I'm taking has 4.5mg of vitamin E to 668 Omega3. I'm taking 3 of these a day, which gives me 13.5mg. The current Upper Safe Levels for supplements for long term use according to the UK Council for Responsible Nutrition appears to be 800mg, so i'm not going to worry about that. I have seem some high dosage Omega3 supplements that contain 100mg of vitamin E.
Out of the ones you found peewee, the naturesbest one doesn't mention anything about (Tocopherol) which is slighty worrying - if you were going to take large doses of this i'd ask them first. The other two appear to contain vitamin E but the vitasunn one doesn't give you an amount.
It's a real shame that we can't get standardized supplements and get the same ingredients in products around the world so we all know were taking the same stuff!
Hope that's helpful
Dave
I thought I'd introduce myself here. I'm currently 35 and have suffered from acne since I was 16. I've been on accutane twice. I was off of accutane in the middle part of 2001.I've been breaking out a lot more recently, w/ some cystic acne on my neck and near my jaw line. The "stage coach" started turning back into a "pumpkin" so to speak. I do have to wear a shirt and tie to work, so I attribute some of my acne to the irritation I experience wearing a starched shirt and shaving.
I was taking fish oil for the past couple of years to help aid in maintaining my blood pressure. I then switched to flaxseed oil in December of 06 and continued to use it until about a week ago. When I made the switch to Flaxseed I wasn't really breaking out that bad. Just a couple of pimples here and there. During February & March, I noticed that I was breaking out a little bit more and my acne started to become cystic. I never made any correlation that the fish oil might have kept the more severe acne at bay.
This is what intrigued me about this thread. Great information to all of those that contributed and continue to contribute btw. I've been taking fish oil now for a little over a week and have noticed that the amount of my cystic acne subsided. Instead of having several rise up at one time, I've only got one that I'm currently dealing with. I've still got the little "reminders" on my face from a couple of weeks ago, but they're slowly beginning to fade.
Anyway, I'm taking 9 1200mg capsules of fish oil along w/ multivitamins, milk thistle, & garlic pills to maintain my overall health. I saw a thread about the green tea extract capsules and have since ordered a couple of bottles to add to my supplement regimen.
In my opinion, I don't think this will make my skin perfect by any means. But should keep the acne to a tolerable level for me. I'm just hoping for the best like everyone else.
So far it seems to be working. I'll chime in from time to time to let you know how things are going.
-Charles
Yes, one of the reasons it also helps is because so little of the flax seed ALA is converted to epa and dha. Also, the bad part about the effects being so slow is that since you stopped fish oil and went to flax, it would take a few months for the deficiency to show back up since it takes the same amount of time to build up a good supply of omega 3 within your body. But Im glad you came back to fish oil.
Yes, green tea should also help with cystic acne more than anything else. Check out the link in the green tea thread to the guy who only relied on green tea extracts for his severe acne. Interesting to say the least!
Youre right, its not 100% certain if this will totally eliminate acne all together, but it should start becoming more apparent in the months to come.
Good luck and keep us updated!
Hi guys n gals,Really interesting thread, so interesting that i joined up just to post. I'm ready to add omega 3 to the long list of things i've tried to get my long running war with acne under control! However, I don't really fancy going for such a high dose - as many people have pointed out before, I feel that megadoses of anything isn't that advisable or safely sustainable.
With that in mind I'm wondering if I can take a lower overall dose of Omega 3 and still see good benefits. I'm curious if EPA is more effective than DHA or if it doesn't matter. As a fair amount of research points towards EPA having more benefits (not acne related research) i'm starting with a higher dose of that (6.6:1). I'm going to be trying 2000mg omega 3 (1740mg EPA, 264mg DHA) a day (just 3 capsules).
I just wondered what everyone else thought about this? Most of the capsules i see mentioned here have a 2/1.5:1 ratio, which is good if both are needed in fairly even quantity, but bad if only one is needed (especially if DHA turned out to be more important). Maybe i've missed the whole point in that they are both essential fatty acids?
Sorry if this has been asked/discussed before, but this thread has become extremely long and rambling...still full of useful information and points of view, just a bit hard to digest!
Dave
Hey there,
You're right overdosing would be risky but I am glad we are not doing so, but just remember to keep it all in context as to what over dosing is. Since it's a fat, and not a vitamin, it also doesn't have a set limit. Also, 4 grams is a safe limit defined by many, so be rest assured.
I think 2 to 3 grams is adequate if you want to reduce dosage (for comfort, monetary, or safety concerns). The only difference is that it may take you twice as long for some obvious reasons. Since it naturally takes months to get back into natural equilibrium, your deficit may decrease slowly instead of faster like I can through the optimal intake of 4 grams.
You are right, EPA is more important, if my knowledge is correct, DHA is converted to EPA. I think the chain is from ALA to DHA to EPA, with an enzyme in the middle. One of the reasons flax is not favorable is that omega 6's hinder the conversion of ALA to DHA. So therefore DHA and EPA are best. So theoretically, if you could find a heavy set EFA that has more epa than dha, it may mean more results? Not too sure, there must be a reason that they have roughly equal amounts.
I hope that makes sense! 🙂 And welcome!
I'm no expert, but i have spent a fair amount of time reading through Omega3 research. I figured if i was going to take large doses of anything i'd find out as much about the current thoughts on it as i can. (one of the reasons i'm not taking b5).Virtually all the Omega3 supplements should include some vitamin E for safety, as it could possibly cause vitamin E deficiency (so you take it just in case, as it would hurt you more if you became deficient rather than having a little extra). However, the amount needed for safety seems to be unknown at this time as a lot of different supplements have differing amounts of vitamin E.
The supplement I'm taking has 4.5mg of vitamin E to 668 Omega3. I'm taking 3 of these a day, which gives me 13.5mg. The current Upper Safe Levels for supplements for long term use according to the UK Council for Responsible Nutrition appears to be 800mg, so i'm not going to worry about that. I have seem some high dosage Omega3 supplements that contain 100mg of vitamin E.
Out of the ones you found peewee, the naturesbest one doesn't mention anything about (Tocopherol) which is slighty worrying - if you were going to take large doses of this i'd ask them first. The other two appear to contain vitamin E but the vitasunn one doesn't give you an amount.
It's a real shame that we can't get standardized supplements and get the same ingredients in products around the world so we all know were taking the same stuff!
Hope that's helpful
Dave
Hey Dave, the number of pills is daunting, it took me a good month and a half to understand why I needed it, but was finally convinced.
Have you thought of taking the liquid form? It is probably the best route, since it requires so little a day to get to 4 grams, (a few teaspoons worth).
You are right! I could almost say they need d-alpha tocopherol in it to ensure it not being rancid :), great point, I need to add that in the thread.
One way to also test if the fish oil is rancid (if it doesn't have tocopherol) is to bite into it and taste it. It should taste a bit fishy, but mostly fine.
Where do you live by the way? I
I thought I'd introduce myself here. I'm currently 35 and have suffered from acne since I was 16. I've been on accutane twice. I was off of accutane in the middle part of 2001.I've been breaking out a lot more recently, w/ some cystic acne on my neck and near my jaw line. The "stage coach" started turning back into a "pumpkin" so to speak. I do have to wear a shirt and tie to work, so I attribute some of my acne to the irritation I experience wearing a starched shirt and shaving.
I was taking fish oil for the past couple of years to help aid in maintaining my blood pressure. I then switched to flaxseed oil in December of 06 and continued to use it until about a week ago. When I made the switch to Flaxseed I wasn't really breaking out that bad. Just a couple of pimples here and there. During February & March, I noticed that I was breaking out a little bit more and my acne started to become cystic. I never made any correlation that the fish oil might have kept the more severe acne at bay.
This is what intrigued me about this thread. Great information to all of those that contributed and continue to contribute btw. I've been taking fish oil now for a little over a week and have noticed that the amount of my cystic acne subsided. Instead of having several rise up at one time, I've only got one that I'm currently dealing with. I've still got the little "reminders" on my face from a couple of weeks ago, but they're slowly beginning to fade.
Anyway, I'm taking 9 1200mg capsules of fish oil along w/ multivitamins, milk thistle, & garlic pills to maintain my overall health. I saw a thread about the green tea extract capsules and have since ordered a couple of bottles to add to my supplement regimen.
In my opinion, I don't think this will make my skin perfect by any means. But should keep the acne to a tolerable level for me. I'm just hoping for the best like everyone else.
So far it seems to be working. I'll chime in from time to time to let you know how things are going.
-Charles
id also recommend considering cutting your sugar intake way way down to 30 grams or less per day, do it for two weeks and see what happens.
and if you need more calories get them from fat, a little from organic whole milk and alot from coconut oil/coconut. this will ensure that you have plenty of energy through the day yet dont turn to sugars for that energy and also dont lose too much weight.
Great idea, sugar is really bad. I notice I get a lot more oilier from an increase sugar intake as well! But saturated fat doesn't affect me as much for some reason
The first page states that eating nuts will cancel out the effect of the fish oil. Does this include eating peanut butter as well?
It won't cancel it out, just be aware of the amount of omega 6 in it, it should be a lot and can be dangerous. The more omega 3 you get overall per day, the faster your results will pour in.
Thought I'd throw an update of my progress in here 🙂My skin looks better (not right now because I fried it with tazorac a few days ago), skin is still oily, just thinner oil.
My hair is growing like CRAZY. I decided to cut all my hair off this year and now it seems like I need a MONTHLY hair cut. It's a hell of alot healthier but that may be caused by stopping highlighting my hair.
Brilliant, that is exactly what should start to be happening 🙂 Eventually it will translate to less breakouts, and smaller in size, because the quality of oil is starting to become regulated to the way it should be naturally. And naturally, you won't break out. It should eventually be as hard for you to break out, as it is for you to not break out (hope that made sense).
More observations:I'm finding that fish oil definitely has a positive and measurable effect on my skin. I'm also finding that it's not a magic pill and I have to maintain a relatively good diet consisting of foods that aren't a problem for me, and getting enough rest / exercise to really have good skin. On top of that, I suspect Wild Oats brand of fish oil has mercury / PCB's in it because it doesn't say it's molecularly distilled and I've been making little speech slurs lately (mixing up words mostly) and that's a pretty apparent sign of mercury in your brain, I've been told.
Hey,
If you do feel that this is the case, try and change out the brand. If you wish to, e-mail the company and ask them how it is tested! I don't want it to have any mercury poisoning in them
2 soft gels
Ok perfect, so once you add up the EPA and DHA, you will get the amount of omega 3 per serving. And since each serving is 2 softgels, just keep that in mind. To get how much there is per pill, just divide the omega 3 content by two 🙂
Basically, take .5 to 1 gram (of omega 3) in the first few days to a week. See how it goes. If you're fine, feel fine etc... then increase it to 1.5 to 2 grams for a few days to a week. Keep repeating till you are at 3.5 to 4 grams. But go slowly, take your time, and be comfortable! Don't rush.
from me going from 6 pills to 8 to 12 I've broken out a lot and I really don't know what has attributed to me having such a big breakout before I had never had such a big break out in god knows how long. But after increasing my dosage of fish oil it seems to have affected my skin ><;; ekkk I look horrible now.Here's some questions:
What else are you taking? Also, what contributed it to the break out? Do you have lots of dead skin, or lots of oil being produced? Did you slip up on anything else?
Also, are you allergic to fish? Or have any known allergies to any of the ingredients? If so, switch to liquid.
Now, how fast did you increase your dosage? Tell me everything from day 1.
Well at first I was taking pantothenic acid 3 500 mg pills then increased it to 6 and took 1 multivitamin. THen I started taking pantothenic acid. I have a lot of oil yes I think now there is not as much oil as I had before taking any of these supplements. Nope I'm not at all allergic to fish. well at first I started off with 6 pills a day for 2-3 weeks and then I slowly did 8 pills a day for a week and now I'm eating 12 pills a day. I don't know maybe I increased it too fast and my body isn't handling that well? I'm not sure.
Tell me how fast you increased it? There may be some allergy to a particular ingredient, it's not uncommon for that to happen. Perhaps it's also your brand, it's so hard to tell, or maybe even something you are eating or doing otherwise. If you suspect something else to be the case also experiment taking that our for a while etc. Or even lowering fish oil or stopping it together for a while and seeing what that does, you know what I mean?
I've found a couple of different fish oils available in the UK for anyone who's interested:http://www.naturesbest.co.uk/product.asp?pf_id=516 This is a high dosage fish oil. 640mg of Omega 3 in each capsule. If you take 4 a day (i.e. just over 2.5g) and buy the big bottle it works out at about 35p a day.
http://www.vitasunn.co.uk/webdocs/Items/Details44.cfm Kirkland fish oil - This one was recommended on a link by ndnromeo. Have found this website which supplies it in UK, its on offer for 9.99 for 400 caps at the moment but they are out of stock! Will be very cheap when its in stock though. 300mg of Omega 3 in each capsule so 8 per day, 2.4g in total works out at about 22p per day.
http://www.hollandandbarrett.com/pages/pro...=0&cPID=807 This has 300mg in each capsule so for 2.4g a day works out at about 32p if you get the big 500 cap bottle which is on offer 3 for 2 at the minute.
Don't know which is the best one - the holland and barrett one has Vit E added - is this good or not? I checked Boots out and they all seemed very expensive. I think I'll be going for the naturesbest one until the Kirkland becomes available.
Those are good links, thanks a lot, I will eventually add the kirkland in when it comes in stock since I want to give everyone the cheapest, but safest option. Let me know when it becomes available!
Dave
I'm no expert, but i have spent a fair amount of time reading through Omega3 research. I figured if i was going to take large doses of anything i'd find out as much about the current thoughts on it as i can. (one of the reasons i'm not taking b5).
Virtually all the Omega3 supplements should include some vitamin E for safety, as it could possibly cause vitamin E deficiency (so you take it just in case, as it would hurt you more if you became deficient rather than having a little extra). However, the amount needed for safety seems to be unknown at this time as a lot of different supplements have differing amounts of vitamin E.
The supplement I'm taking has 4.5mg of vitamin E to 668 Omega3. I'm taking 3 of these a day, which gives me 13.5mg. The current Upper Safe Levels for supplements for long term use according to the UK Council for Responsible Nutrition appears to be 800mg, so i'm not going to worry about that. I have seem some high dosage Omega3 supplements that contain 100mg of vitamin E.
Out of the ones you found peewee, the naturesbest one doesn't mention anything about (Tocopherol) which is slighty worrying - if you were going to take large doses of this i'd ask them first. The other two appear to contain vitamin E but the vitasunn one doesn't give you an amount.
It's a real shame that we can't get standardized supplements and get the same ingredients in products around the world so we all know were taking the same stuff!
Hope that's helpful
Dave
Thanks Dave - I've just checked out the naturesbest one and on the label it does say that it contains d-alpha tocopherol - so it should be ok. I've also just discovered that d-alpha tocopherol is Vitamin E anyway! so I guess they all contain it. It seems like a very low dosage though (.75mg of Vit E per 300mg of Omega 3) so I'm gonna look into whether I should be getting more Vit E from another source.
Hey Dave, the number of pills is daunting, it took me a good month and a half to understand why I needed it, but was finally convinced.Have you thought of taking the liquid form? It is probably the best route, since it requires so little a day to get to 4 grams, (a few teaspoons worth).
You are right! I could almost say they need d-alpha tocopherol in it to ensure it not being rancid :), great point, I need to add that in the thread.
One way to also test if the fish oil is rancid (if it doesn't have tocopherol) is to bite into it and taste it. It should taste a bit fishy, but mostly fine.
Where do you live by the way?
I fixed my profile - i thought I'd already put that information in :think:
I don't think 4grams is overdosing (one Swedish doctor was giving 9grams to children for long periods of time). If i require higher doses to see any effect, I'll build up slowly like you suggested, but i'm hoping to see some benefit from a lower dose over a longer period of time. If i don't see any improvement, or side effects i will up my dose as far as i feel comfortable, and then possibly try other Omega3 supplements. Reading through the thread, it's good to know that your still here, still doing it and continually updating and helping as other people trying it.
I thought about liquid form, but i hear that it's quite easily spoiled and i don't really trust my local shops or an online stockist to make sure that during it's delivery to them or me it's handled correctly. I guess it all depends on how much you are taking. Also I don't know if this has come up before, but you might want to put a note about cod liver oil, and the fact it contains vitamins A & D and that it might not be ideal as a choice for high doses of Omega3. Even the cod liver oil that has those vitamins removed or reduced could be pretty unpleasant in high doses.
Dave
hey one question here. Since fish oil makes us produce less oil, will overdosing/taking it long term cause our skin to be dry? 😀
What it actually does is regulates oil production. Some say it also stops oil from being produced within the hair follicle eventually (excess oil). So it does produce less oil but gradually. So nope, it can't make your face dry, but just perfect so to speak.
I've been recently analyzing clear skin people and their oil production. They still have oil production, but when you look closely, they sort of glow, and you can tell it's oil when you look close.
It's as hard for them to get acne, as it is for us to not get acne. I can understand why, it's the type of oil. If you were to be dry, that would be bad too so it's a perfect equilibrium =). Normal amount of oil, at the right quality, so it's not heavy, nor do you look oily, you just look healthy with a dewy/gleamy type effect.
DaveI'm no expert, but i have spent a fair amount of time reading through Omega3 research. I figured if i was going to take large doses of anything i'd find out as much about the current thoughts on it as i can. (one of the reasons i'm not taking b5).Virtually all the Omega3 supplements should include some vitamin E for safety, as it could possibly cause vitamin E deficiency (so you take it just in case, as it would hurt you more if you became deficient rather than having a little extra). However, the amount needed for safety seems to be unknown at this time as a lot of different supplements have differing amounts of vitamin E.
The supplement I'm taking has 4.5mg of vitamin E to 668 Omega3. I'm taking 3 of these a day, which gives me 13.5mg. The current Upper Safe Levels for supplements for long term use according to the UK Council for Responsible Nutrition appears to be 800mg, so i'm not going to worry about that. I have seem some high dosage Omega3 supplements that contain 100mg of vitamin E.
Out of the ones you found peewee, the naturesbest one doesn't mention anything about (Tocopherol) which is slighty worrying - if you were going to take large doses of this i'd ask them first. The other two appear to contain vitamin E but the vitasunn one doesn't give you an amount.
It's a real shame that we can't get standardized supplements and get the same ingredients in products around the world so we all know were taking the same stuff!
Hope that's helpful
Dave
No, those small amounts are fine, one reason is because you want it for it's anti-oxidant properties within the capsule. If you are taking green tea, you are getting more than enough to protect your cells once it (if rancid by any means) begins to oxidize inside causing free radical damage 🙂
So don't worry, if it contains some d-alpha tocopherol, it's fine since it's vitamin E
Thanks Dave - I've just checked out the naturesbest one and on the label it does say that it contains d-alpha tocopherol - so it should be ok. I've also just discovered that d-alpha tocopherol is Vitamin E anyway! so I guess they all contain it. It seems like a very low dosage though (.75mg of Vit E per 300mg of Omega 3) so I'm gonna look into whether I should be getting more Vit E from another source.
Hey Dave, the number of pills is daunting, it took me a good month and a half to understand why I needed it, but was finally convinced.Have you thought of taking the liquid form? It is probably the best route, since it requires so little a day to get to 4 grams, (a few teaspoons worth).
You are right! I could almost say they need d-alpha tocopherol in it to ensure it not being rancid :), great point, I need to add that in the thread.
One way to also test if the fish oil is rancid (if it doesn't have tocopherol) is to bite into it and taste it. It should taste a bit fishy, but mostly fine.
Where do you live by the way?
I fixed my profile - i thought I'd already put that information in :think:
I don't think 4grams is overdosing (one Swedish doctor was giving 9grams to children for long periods of time). If i require higher doses to see any effect, I'll build up slowly like you suggested, but i'm hoping to see some benefit from a lower dose over a longer period of time. If i don't see any improvement, or side effects i will up my dose as far as i feel comfortable, and then possibly try other Omega3 supplements. Reading through the thread, it's good to know that your still here, still doing it and continually updating and helping as other people trying it.
I thought about liquid form, but i hear that it's quite easily spoiled and i don't really trust my local shops or an online stockist to make sure that during it's delivery to them or me it's handled correctly. I guess it all depends on how much you are taking. Also I don't know if this has come up before, but you might want to put a note about cod liver oil, and the fact it contains vitamins A & D and that it might not be ideal as a choice for high doses of Omega3. Even the cod liver oil that has those vitamins removed or reduced could be pretty unpleasant in high doses.
Dave
That sounds like a very reasonable method to go about with this regimen! It's not unusual to experience the results you need at low doses since some people have had complete success with it. I hope it works for you as well.
Thanks for the comment/compliment! As time goes on and more research is found, we tend to have to update and then fix it so we can do this correctly, hence the updates, but all for the better.
About the cod liver oil, you are absolutely right, I am going to be adding that section in fairly soon, thank you for the note!
Let's say my face gets clear in 4 months or so due to consuming all this Omega 3. Does that mean I'll have to take the Fish Oil for the rest of my life or I'll breakout again (assuming I don't grow out of the acne)?
Also, regarding food and acne - I love my pizza. I like to pig out on Pizza once every 2 weeks. This isn't really gonna bring me down is it?
Let's say my face gets clear in 4 months or so due to consuming all this Omega 3. Does that mean I'll have to take the Fish Oil for the rest of my life or I'll breakout again (assuming I don't grow out of the acne)?Also, regarding food and acne - I love my pizza. I like to pig out on Pizza once every 2 weeks. This isn't really gonna bring me down is it?
the pig out part might do it, just have like two slices. itll be the dairy in the pizza and the excess omega 6s that will do it though, balance it out with more fish oil that day.
anyone else notice their hair growing any faster?? just curious, mine seems to be too...which is a good thing :boogie:
mines a little thicker and shinier havent really noticed it growing any faster though but doesnt mean its not growing faster i just havent noticed thats all.
Well, I got my blood test results back (2 months back I said I would have one done) and my results are pretty good
HDL = 52
LDL = 86
VLDL = 7
Total Cholesterol = 145
Triglycerides = 36
What the numbers mean:
Total cholesterol level
* Less than 200 is best.
* Between 200 to 239 is borderline high.
* 240 or more means you're at increased risk for heart disease.
HDL cholesterol levels
* Less than 40 means you're at higher risk for heart disease.
* 60 or higher reduces your risk of heart disease.
LDL cholesterol levels
* Less than 130 is best.
* Between 130 to 159 is borderline high.
* 160 or more means you're at higher risk for heart disease
Triglyceride Level Classification
Less than 150 mg/dL Normal
150-199 mg/dL Borderline-high
200-499 mg/dL High
500 mg/dL or higher Very high
thats why japan and the prefecture okinawa had the longest lived people and least disease risk on the planet, with an average total cholesterol of 150mg/dl
^ Found that on some sight:
http://forum.lowcarber.org/archive/index.php/t-51907.html
green tea + omega 3 in optimal amounts = super Japanese diets = mimicking life expectancy of the longest living people on earth.
Mines slightly even better than theres right now, this was before taking 4.2 grams
But I have a concern, which I am going to look into. My triglycerides are tooooo low. I looked it up, and it's a sign of mal absorption. I am aware fish oil does that, BUT, Even before fish oil, I was very very skinny no matter how much I ate. I am going to look into what I can do to enhance my absorption, I have a feeling that has to do with so much of the big picture. I have a feeling many people here are skinny too, there may be a big connection. I am irregularly skinny, I always have been, more so than anyone I know of. A few people I know are on the same boat (past normal skinny), and they both have a lot of acne.
How many hours between each pills should I be taking? During the week I'm a schedule but weekends its kinda harder.
I know what you mean, weekends are hell for me.
If you have issues, don't worry so much, if you can fit in three times a week that's fine, but just don't OD in one dose or two doses! If you can't take as much as you would like, don't take all of it =) Your results won't lessen in two days or anything like that, if you want to know (I had that worry before).
Let's say my face gets clear in 4 months or so due to consuming all this Omega 3. Does that mean I'll have to take the Fish Oil for the rest of my life or I'll breakout again (assuming I don't grow out of the acne)?Also, regarding food and acne - I love my pizza. I like to pig out on Pizza once every 2 weeks. This isn't really gonna bring me down is it?
When you get clear (let's hope so), in 4 months time, you can start lessening it to a 1:1 ratio and stay there, that would be about 6 pills, or just buy liquid, which is like two teaspoons worth.
But yes, it's like saying "will I need protein daily?" Yup, you'll have to continue. But chances are when you grow out of acne, it will be your choice if you want to stop it. But chances are by then you'll realize the immense benefits to your health (which is far more beneficial than just acne), and you won't stop =)
Once you go fish, you never go back 😆
lol sorry that was dumb kind of haha
anyone else notice their hair growing any faster?? just curious, mine seems to be too...which is a good thing :boogie:
My hair quality is phenominal. That's one reason I haven't cut it yet :think: Not sure about growth, but it's possible.
Faster Hair Growth - It's as Easy as Omega 3
Omega 3 is excellent for the promotion of faster hair growth and helps your hair to be healthier, as it nourishes it from the inside, feeding the follicles to stimulate growth and shine.