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(@ndnromeo)

Posted : 04/19/2007 3:08 pm

I had been taking Nutrilite's fish oil capsules, but the high price made me recently buy Vitamin Shoppe's MEGA Fish Oil EPA-DHA brand. Each pill contains:

600 mg EPA

240 mg DHA

I thought this was OK, bc I read that EPA reduces systemic inflammation, and DHA reduces high triglyceride levels, which I don't have.

Since my supplement has twice as much EPA as DHA, should I aim to take

3-4 g of EPA, or 3-4 g of DHA (~ 6-8 g of EPA)?

Or, should I find another brand of fish oil that contains equal amounts of EPA and DHA?

Thanks.

Just curious, how much were they? I never buy from vitamin shoppe because it's too expensive. Why not just buy from the link noted? They work well and it's the best bargain right now. $14 for 400 capsules.

4 grams of omega 3 reduces triglyceride levels. Even if it's not high, it's still needed. Because your sebum is made up of 41% of triglycerides, so dha and epa are necessary, you'll become healthier anyway =). Don't sell yourself of anything short of 3.5 grams of omega 3. (I say 4 grams). I never had high tri's either but I'm now much healthier as well.

So with those capsules, you get 840 mg of omega 3 per pill (make sure it says 1 pill per serving, sometimes they say 2 pills is a serving).

You would need 5 of those pills daily. Spread them through the day, since each contains 840, taking two at a time maybe too much at once. Too much at once is bad too. That will get you exactly 4.2 grams of omega 3.

Hope that helped!

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Posted : 04/19/2007 3:21 pm

Does anyone know what the gelatin is made of in Members Mark omega 3 fish oil?

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(@ndnromeo)

Posted : 04/19/2007 3:28 pm

Does anyone know what the gelatin is made of in Members Mark omega 3 fish oil?

Not a clue, I tried looking for you but apparently the member's mark doesn't have it's own website. It's directly the SAMS brand, who is the whole sale distributor

http://www.samsclub.com/shopping/navigate....e r's%20mark

You may try to find a way to contact the sam's club site itself, "contact us" type option and see what they say. They can probably find that out for you.

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(@subaru)

Posted : 04/19/2007 4:14 pm

I happened to be visiting a relative who lives a couple blocks away from the Vitamin Shoppe, so we took advantage of their buy-one-get-the-other-half-off deal. It works out to just under $14 per bottle of 60 capsules of molecularly distilled fish oil (serving size is one a day). That particular store had run out of the larger bottle version of their fish oil brand.

 

The brand you listed is definitely cheaper, but I didn't have time to visit Costco and I didn't want to order it through Amazon, which still hasn't sent me an order I placed back in late February.

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Posted : 04/19/2007 5:07 pm

Does anyone know what the gelatin is made of in Members Mark omega 3 fish oil?

Not a clue, I tried looking for you but apparently the member's mark doesn't have it's own website. It's directly the SAMS brand, who is the whole sale distributor

http://www.samsclub.com/shopping/navigate....e r's%20mark

You may try to find a way to contact the sam's club site itself, "contact us" type option and see what they say. They can probably find that out for you.

 

Thanks for the link =). I called the number, and the person I spoke to didn't know what the gelatin was made from and told me to check http://msds.walmartstores.com/ . The only thing I know is the product name and it's not coming up with anything for me. If you or anyone have the rest of the info, can you check for me, pwetty please.

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(@ndnromeo)

Posted : 04/19/2007 5:54 pm

I happened to be visiting a relative who lives a couple blocks away from the Vitamin Shoppe, so we took advantage of their buy-one-get-the-other-half-off deal. It works out to just under $14 per bottle of 60 capsules of molecularly distilled fish oil (serving size is one a day). That particular store had run out of the larger bottle version of their fish oil brand.

The brand you listed is definitely cheaper, but I didn't have time to visit Costco and I didn't want to order it through Amazon, which still hasn't sent me an order I placed back in late February.

They haven't sent an order from February? Did you call them up or are you still waiting? I hope not the latter! They're usually pretty good with shipping, unless you placed an order with a company using amazon to sell items instead.

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(@subaru)

Posted : 04/19/2007 6:14 pm

No, I didn't call Amazon, and the order was through Amazon directly.

 

btw, I'm curious to know whether the Member's Mark brand is molecularly distilled fish oil.

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(@ndnromeo)

Posted : 04/19/2007 6:27 pm

No, I didn't call Amazon, and the order was through Amazon directly.

btw, I'm curious to know whether the Member's Mark brand is molecularly distilled fish oil.

Oh you should check it out, did you follow up somehow? Hopefully you didn't lose any money over it. :think:

I believe so, consumer reports gives it a "best buy"

 

The review concluded it's reasonable to choose a product based upon low cost. Consumer Reports listed two as "best buys": Kirkland Signature Natural Fish Oil, available at Costco, and Member's Mark Omega-3 Fish Oil, sold at Sam's Club.

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0CY...40/ai_n13675070

So it's on par with the best brands out there.

Due to a lack of information, I can't find exactly if it is or not, but to assume so because of the prestigious "consumer reports" claims, and because it (Sams club) is such a reputable distributor.

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(@ndnromeo)

Posted : 04/19/2007 9:31 pm

One other thing I found with the help of the people at bodybuilding.com forums

 

1: Biochem Biophys Res Commun. 1988 Oct 31;156(2):960-3.Click here to read Links

Absorption of eicosapentaenoic acid and docosahexaenoic acid from fish oil triacylglycerols or fish oil ethyl esters co-ingested with a high-fat meal.

 

* Lawson LD,

* Hughes BG.

 

Murdock Pharmaceuticals, Springville, Utah 84663.

 

The absorption of eicosapentaenoic acid (EPA) and docosahexaenoic acid (DHA) from fish oil triacylglycerols and fish oil ethyl esters consumed in a high-fat meal (44 g total fat) by male volunteers was measured and compared to values previously reported for consumption in a low-fat meal (8 g total fat). Absorption of EPA, but not of DHA, from fish oil triacylglycerols was significantly improved from 69% to 90% by co-ingestion with the high-fat meal. Absorption of both EPA and DHA from fish oil ethyl esters was increased three-fold, to about 60%, by co-ingestion with the high-fat meal, indicating that absorption of fatty acid ethyl esters is highly dependent on the amount of co-ingested fat.

 

PMID: 2847723 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

 

Not telling you to eat 44 grams of fat lol, but just the basic principle that a little bit of fat with each meal can help absorption. But don't go nuts, perhaps throw in a bit of chocolate or something you've been craving with the intake, it could help =). Win win situation perhaps?

 

Again, don't go nuts, it's just a simple food for thought type situation!

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(@autonomousone1980)

Posted : 04/19/2007 10:39 pm

I have been doing this regimen for almost 3 weeks now and it HAD been going well. I have been getting almost zero acne on my face, and that trend is still continuing. Unfortunately my NECK got absolutely destroooooyed this weekend. I went from having ZERO acne there (which I attribute to the fish oil, because before I was taking any fish oil this was always a problem) to having literally like 20 new spots. I think this was due to a sensitivity. I'm really not even convinced that the breakouts I experienced were actually normal acne. Here are a few things I did to myself the week before this awful breakout:

Ate pizza twice - I am now almost 95% sure that cheese is causing at least some of my problems. So why did I eat pizza? To be honest, my skin was doing so damn good I thought I could get away with it... as well as a few other things!

Smoking - My normal smoke intake is about once a day. Last week I was smoking 5-10 times a day.

Drinking - I drank a lot of beer.

Fruit - I ate, and always have eaten, a TONNNNNN of fruit. I think this may be a major contributor as well. I am, of course, not going to stop eating fruit. But I am going to cut my intake down to a more reasonable level.

Chocolate - I didn't eat a ton of it, but a couple pieces a day probably contributed.

Exercise - I did a fair amount of exercise, but mostly at the end of the week after the breakouts had already started to manifest

Salt - I have been salting my foods pretty well.

Almonds and Honey - Ate a bunch of this.

I really don't know which of these factors played the most significant role in my recent breakout, but I am 100% sure that all of them put together had a very very significant role.

The last 36 hours or so I cut all that stuff out, and the breakout has reduced SIGNIFICANTLY. I am going to continue on this path, and report back in a week. If I had reported 4 days ago, I would have reported being about 93% clear, with clarity increasing every couple days.

Bob Mckee's post is a good read for anyone reading this fish oil thread. One of the points he stresses is that there are numerous factors which can cause acne. The more of these factors which you reduce or try and control, the more successful your prevention routine will be.

Another thing I would like to point out is that I have been on accutane twice. I think ndnRomeo has been on the fish oil regimen the longest, at about 8 or 9 weeks. During BOTH courses of accutane, and I am guessing this is true with MOST other people who have been on accutane, my face looked like absoulute HELLLLLLL until about the 3rd or 4th month. So be patient, give this thing some time, and don't lose sight of the fact that fish oil by itself is NOT a cure for acne. It may clear some poeple up, but for most I am thinking it is just another piece of the puzzle.

fish oil is just a piece of the puzzle i agree.

borage oil would be a decent addition to your regimen as well.

I think cutting your sugar intake down to like 30 grams or less a day and getting more fat calories from saturated fat like coconut and some dairy would be a good idea.

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(@r-s)

Posted : 04/20/2007 12:18 am

fish oil seems to be helping me a lot. my hair is extremely soft, my face is very flat/even when i rub the back of my fingers over it, and everything is good skin wise, 3-4 small whiteheadish active spots which is quite good for me since that's pretty much minor (at worst i'm nodules/somewhat cysts). more updates later.

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(@subaru)

Posted : 04/20/2007 12:57 am

I think that taking the fish oil has helped reduce oiliness and persistent dandruff.

 

Re the late Amazon delivery, normally Amazon is pretty good about delivering things. I did get a notice that it was shipped out of their warehouse today. The product I ordered was out of stock for so long Amazon asked me if I wanted to cancel my order a while back.

 

It wasn't urgent, but annoying, as some companies like Zappos (shoes) offers free overnight delivery. Their window for delivery is almost a month long: my order will come anywhere between April 21st to May 15th. Anyway, that's the end of my rant.

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(@subaru)

Posted : 04/20/2007 1:40 am

btw, I just thought this was interesting. Recently I was telling a half Russian-half Finnish friend about my fish oil supplementation, and she remarked that growing up she and her peers were force-fed really awful-smelling fish oil as a daily vitamin by their parents, but that the practice was abandoned once her family moved to the US. She said she would look into it and maybe start taking fish oil again.

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Posted : 04/20/2007 5:33 am

i've not been taking it long but i too have noticed softer hair recently i never made the connection at first though! It feels fantastic and it also seems shinier which i guess is odd when you think of why you're taking the pills....hmm? Maybe i'm just conditioning better without realising..?

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(@ndnromeo)

Posted : 04/20/2007 8:38 am

I think that taking the fish oil has helped reduce oiliness and persistent dandruff.

Re the late Amazon delivery, normally Amazon is pretty good about delivering things. I did get a notice that it was shipped out of their warehouse today. The product I ordered was out of stock for so long Amazon asked me if I wanted to cancel my order a while back.

It wasn't urgent, but annoying, as some companies like Zappos (shoes) offers free overnight delivery. Their window for delivery is almost a month long: my order will come anywhere between April 21st to May 15th. Anyway, that's the end of my rant.

Damn that sucks 🙁 Sorry to hear about that. I just ordered two bottles of the 400 cnt fish oil and it's already in my city (arriving today). The best thing to do with amazon, like ebay, is just to check up on the feedback of the company that is selling it through amazon. Like the ones that sell the fish oil is

http://www.amazon.com/b/104-5599120-532951...=A3E0B40Y2AC8FQ

That's their storefront, their reviews are pretty good.

I'm sorry about the delay with your item 🙁 Don't get anything from them again

 

btw, I just thought this was interesting. Recently I was telling a half Russian-half Finnish friend about my fish oil supplementation, and she remarked that growing up she and her peers were force-fed really awful-smelling fish oil as a daily vitamin by their parents, but that the practice was abandoned once her family moved to the US. She said she would look into it and maybe start taking fish oil again.

That is interesting you note that! I had a friend over the other day that saw my fish oil bottle and then immediately noted how he had to take cod liver oil growing up haha!

Does your friend have acne right now? Or is she just doing it for good health measures?

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Posted : 04/20/2007 8:45 am

i've not been taking it long but i too have noticed softer hair recently i never made the connection at first though! It feels fantastic and it also seems shinier which i guess is odd when you think of why you're taking the pills....hmm? Maybe i'm just conditioning better without realising..?

Absolutely, omega 3 has 100x more benefits for your skin, hair, body, heart than just acne.

 

Be patient. You won't see results for six to eight weeks.

http://www.azcentral.com/health/wellness/a...qaweil0412.html

omega 3 and hair growth

http://www.peoplespharmacy.com/archives/he..._hair_color.asp

omega 3 restoring hair color

At the dosages I recommend, the results will flourish even faster. 🙂 Most people don't see benefits because they only take one or two pills a day and wonder why nothing is happening... only if they knew what to do and how much to take, but then again, most people will think it's "bad" to take so many pills a day not knowing it only adds up to a few teaspoons worth.

=)

Congrats

 

fish oil seems to be helping me a lot. my hair is extremely soft, my face is very flat/even when i rub the back of my fingers over it, and everything is good skin wise, 3-4 small whiteheadish active spots which is quite good for me since that's pretty much minor (at worst i'm nodules/somewhat cysts). more updates later.

Very nice, what dosage are you on right now?

I wish I knew in the beginning to just start out higher than to take less than 2 grams a day, I would probably not have anything to worry about right now then. But keep at it, and keep updating! Including anything else you begin to notice from mental alertness etc. One thing I really love is that my reflexes have notably increased. I even begin to catch things in mid air that other people drop and we both pause and go "wow" My guess it's due to more mental alertness, or something, but it's very cool.

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(@kev-geno)

Posted : 04/20/2007 9:38 am

actually I'm only taking 1030.5mg of salmon oil (300mg EPA+DHA) daily... is this too little to see any effect? I noticed my acne and skin has improved quite a lot in the past 3 weeks and my skin also feels a little less oily.

 

But all this could be due to my new radical change in lifestyle -- healthy diet, less masturbation, sleeping earlier, drinking green tea (only 2 mugs per day lol), applying manuka honey on face etc.

 

What do you think?

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(@ndnromeo)

Posted : 04/20/2007 9:55 am

actually I'm only taking 1030.5mg of salmon oil (300mg EPA+DHA) daily... is this too little to see any effect? I noticed my acne and skin has improved quite a lot in the past 3 weeks and my skin also feels a little less oily.

But all this could be due to my new radical change in lifestyle -- healthy diet, less masturbation, sleeping earlier, drinking green tea (only 2 mugs per day lol), applying manuka honey on face etc.

What do you think?

I've heard that salmon oil is even more effective so it's not unlikely that it has an effect. But, in general for the long term, you won't see the results you will be eventually looking for at such low dosages. Because essentially we need more omega 3 than 6 in our diet, and thus getting the effects of the omega 3 in full potential that so few often obtain. =)

I hope that makes sense, if you are satisfied with how you feel right now then keep on using that, but if you want more, then you are free to up it =)

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(@subaru)

Posted : 04/20/2007 1:42 pm

btw, I just thought this was interesting. Recently I was telling a half Russian-half Finnish friend about my fish oil supplementation, and she remarked that growing up she and her peers were force-fed really awful-smelling fish oil as a daily vitamin by their parents, but that the practice was abandoned once her family moved to the US. She said she would look into it and maybe start taking fish oil again.

That is interesting you note that! I had a friend over the other day that saw my fish oil bottle and then immediately noted how he had to take cod liver oil growing up haha!

Does your friend have acne right now? Or is she just doing it for good health measures?

 

She doesn't have acne (I don't think she ever had a problem with acne actually), but she does have very dry skin and a lot of wrinkles around her eyes for a 30-yr-old who doesn't tan, drink or smoke. She also complains of stress at work, so she thinks the fish oil would be good for her heart. Although most of her family now lives in Finland, she grew up in a region of Russia that had been a part of Finland until the '40s.

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(@subaru)

Posted : 04/20/2007 1:46 pm

Also, I'm not sure, because I did also add green tea pill to my supplements, but recently I had a 2nd Fraxel treatment and I think the fish oil has reduced the post-Fraxel swelling + milia by a LOT and the milia are falling off more quickly than the first time I did Fraxel.

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(@jm123)

Posted : 04/20/2007 6:50 pm

I took ym first pills last night :D

 

The bottle of pillsl says to take 2 three times a day, so thats 6 pills! Hopefully I see results soon :D

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(@ben_savly)

Posted : 04/20/2007 7:53 pm

yea i knew those pills i ordered off boots was a bit expensive, is there any good websites you would suggest? i dont mind if it takes long, since i can live on the ones im getting atm.

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(@jm123)

Posted : 04/20/2007 8:08 pm

get them from a chemist.

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(@ndnromeo)

Posted : 04/21/2007 12:00 am

yea i knew those pills i ordered off boots was a bit expensive, is there any good websites you would suggest? i dont mind if it takes long, since i can live on the ones im getting atm.

I wish I could help =( I don't live there so I have no clue, sadly, but perhaps the others can help too who live there

 

Also, I'm not sure, because I did also add green tea pill to my supplements, but recently I had a 2nd Fraxel treatment and I think the fish oil has reduced the post-Fraxel swelling + milia by a LOT and the milia are falling off more quickly than the first time I did Fraxel.

That is great news! I can't wait to see what happens in the extended time period :)!

 

I took ym first pills last night 😀

The bottle of pillsl says to take 2 three times a day, so thats 6 pills! Hopefully I see results soon 😀

how much epa and dha is there per pill?

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(@doppleganger)

Posted : 04/21/2007 1:50 am

Hey guys, back again. I continue to somehow experiment with my fish oil bottle as opposed to taking it on a set schedule, as I've sort of been facing some setbacks. In these past couple of days of taking fish oil caplets (usually 4-6 a day) as I've been sitting down in my chair using my PC I've been falling asleep with the quickness, not even 12 hours after waking up and having a decent 7-8 hours a sleep the night before. I don't recall ever having this much trouble staying awake while browsing my PC, but I feel it may have something to do with the fish oil. Is this a sign of lightheadedness??? Today I've also felt slight throbs coming off the side of my head, but they don't really hurt or last more than a few seconds. Is this also a sign of lightheadedeness???

 

Also of note that I've been taking 5000mg aloe vera softgels along with the fish oil capsules to help me digest as of late because I find that I don't visit the toilet as often as I'd like and uh.............don't leave as much of a mess as I feel I should considering the amount of stuff I've been eating as of late. Is this harmful, to take them alongside fish oil??? Only other pills I take alongside fish oil are my leftover B100 caplets.

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