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This weekend I am going to a major overhaul of the first post, because it's too much text, especially in terms of clutter. It's not all necessary, and it's repetitive due to the lack of editing. Especially all that was learned from experience and all the knowledge here, the dosage explenation will be much easier, and more concise. I'll get straight to the point, talk about what causes acne, and why this helps with it (keratinization, sebum production/quality). Also talking about doses (starting, during, and maintenance).Definitely giving thanks to everyone as well, it was my mistake before, and I will write that in there clear as crystal.
Yeah, I'd say definitely put clear concise advice as best you can about the amount of fish oil to take right at the begining. Hell you should even put it in your signature! I've been avoiding this thread lately because it is getting really tiring seeing the same question asked and you having to constantly answer it.
Interesting...
Dr. Mercola's Comment:The most popular article on the site this month was the one on I wrote on sunblock actually causing skin cancer. Having concern about skin cancer is valid, as its incidence in the United States has tripled in recent years to 54,000 cases annually. This article takes the position that sunscreens don't block UVA, which makes them ineffective.
However, I believe that it is the worsening omega-3:6 ratios, not sunscreens, that are the cause of the increase in skin cancers. In 2001, the National Academy of Sciences published a comprehensive review showing that the omega 6:3 ratio was the key to preventing skin cancer development. An Australian study done over 10 years ago showed a 40 percent reduction in melanoma for those who were eating fish, which is rich in omega-3s. And this was without any attention to lowering omega-6 fats.
Omega-3 and omega-6 fats are both essential for human health, however the typical American consumes far too many omega-6 fats in their diet while consuming very low levels of omega-3. While the ideal ratio of omega-6 to omega-3 fats is 1:1, our ratio of omega-6 to omega-3 averages from 20:1 to 50:1!
The primary sources of omega-6 are corn, soy, canola, safflower and sunflower oil; these oils are overabundant in the typical diet, which explains our excess omega-6 levels. Avoid or limit these oils. Omega-3, meanwhile, is typically found in flaxseed oil, walnut oil, and fish.
By far, the best type of omega-3 fats are those found in that last category, fish. That's because the omega-3 in fish is high in two fatty acids crucial to human health, DHA and EPA. These two fatty acids are pivotal in preventing heart disease, cancer, and many other diseases.
However, since most fish is contaminated with mercury (though we were able to lab test and find an excellent source of mercury-free Alaskan salmon, I recommend taking fish oil to get your omega-3. Make sure the fish oil you choose is free of mercury and other toxins and is fresh (fish oil can become rancid easily). Though there are likely many high-quality brands, I recommend Carlsonas fish oil because it has proven to be of better quality than all the other brands I have tested. You may be able to find it in your local health food store, and it is also available in our "Recommended Products" section.
Does this mean that I recommend taking some fish oil and going out and getting as much sun as you would like?
Absolutely not.
You must exercise caution. At the beginning of the season go out in the sun gradually, perhaps as little as 10 minutes a day. Progressively increase your time in the sun so that in a few weeks you will be able to have normal sun exposure with little risk of skin cancer.
Remember never to get burned, that is the key.
Remember also never to use sunscreen, another key. You can creatively use your clothing to block the sunas rays during your build-up time.
The bottom line is, please avoid getting sucked into the hype that sunlight is dangerous. It is only dangerous if you are clueless about fat nutrition, which most medical doctors are. If you choose to ignore your omega 6:3 ratio and stay out of the sun, you could limit your risk of skin cancer, but is that worth the risk of getting MS, breast or prostate cancer?
Your choice.
[is feeling light headed a side effect? since it lowerst blood pressure, i assume its not good to take if you're a chronic runner like me. low blood pressure would cause me to pass out on my back to back 400 meter sprints.
I just wanted to pipe in and answer this person.
I noticed in your signature that you are taking 400mg of Vitamin E. If you are experiencing light-headedness and lower blood pressure, it is probably due to the combined effect of too much Vitamin E and Fish oil. I've done the same thing before, took too much vitamin E and felt like crap for several days until figuring it out. That is simply too much. Vitamin E is a blood thinner, coupled with the blood thinning effect of Omega 3 fish oils (which also have vitamin E added as a preservative most of the time). My advice for you is to drop the large dose of vitamin E and stick with the fish oils. I bet you will begin to feel better and not so lethargic and light headed.
I wanted to let you guys know that I re-did the first post so it's more accurate, and talks about everything people want to know about, in a more organized method, including proper thanks to everyone, I know it's alright, I tried my best. 
Let me know if anything needs fixing.
Thank you for the very informative feedback with your trials! I am sad that you had allergic reactions to fish oil, but am glad you found salmon oil to be beneficial. What brand have you used? That way I can go on and recommend it to others based on it as well in case anyone has any reactions to the other omega 3 sources.It's very true, I hate the thought of taking pills, but it's sad to say with EFA's, we have to, since eating lots of fish (even though possible) may contain too much mercury, just eating other omega 3 sources, isn't enough either. I don't know how our ancestors did it!
I am glad your making progress, I cannot wait till you get into taking 3 grams a day, over a course of a couple of weeks. You'll really notice your improvements fly higher.
By the way, how old are you, tell me more about yourself. I want to know.
I'm using Solaray brand.
Our ancestors were lucky - the wild game meat they ate had plenty of DHA/EPA in it.
I'm already taking about 2 grams a day of combined EPA/DHA by the way...
I'm 18, been suffering with moderate to severe acne for about a year and a half now, before that it was minor and nothing BP couldn't handle.
Thank you for the very informative feedback with your trials! I am sad that you had allergic reactions to fish oil, but am glad you found salmon oil to be beneficial. What brand have you used? That way I can go on and recommend it to others based on it as well in case anyone has any reactions to the other omega 3 sources.It's very true, I hate the thought of taking pills, but it's sad to say with EFA's, we have to, since eating lots of fish (even though possible) may contain too much mercury, just eating other omega 3 sources, isn't enough either. I don't know how our ancestors did it!
I am glad your making progress, I cannot wait till you get into taking 3 grams a day, over a course of a couple of weeks. You'll really notice your improvements fly higher.
By the way, how old are you, tell me more about yourself. I want to know.
I'm using Solaray brand.
Our ancestors were lucky - the wild game meat they ate had plenty of DHA/EPA in it.
I'm already taking about 2 grams a day of combined EPA/DHA by the way...
I'm 18, been suffering with moderate to severe acne for about a year and a half now, before that it was minor and nothing BP couldn't handle.
Thanks! Jump it to 3.6 to 3.9 grams if you can. It makes a huge difference. That is, if you aren't already successful with two grams. The oil produced on my face is just so different, it's literally like water dew. I can't explain it. It's lighter then even I could imagine. It really does a great job softening your face without clogging pores. Real cool.
Hey guys, now that I've been here awhile I want to bring up an interesting product that I have eaten in the last few months:
While browsing the local supermarket a couple of months ago for the least harmful peanut butter I could find (peanut butter has been a staple of my diet since I was very young, but I feel it may have become more of a detriment to my acne in the last couple of years as I developed acne............or maybe it was something else, but I do tend to eat a bit more than I should, especially off the jar with a knife. 
), I stumbled upon an interesting-looking oddity on the shelves that may have been what I was looking for:
http://www.smartbalance.com/omega3.html (First product on list)
A jar of "Smart Balance Omega" NATURAL peanut butter, with prominent claims of "1000mg of Omega 3's per serving" and "Omega-3 from flax-oil) among other healthy claims on it's label. I figured I'd give it a try and took it home with me (I bought it you dummies! 
), kinda hesistant as to how it would taste. Surprisingly, it tasted pretty good, and if they say that it's healthier than most other PB's than maybe I should run with it for awhile!!! I had already gone through two jars of this stuff before I came here and really found out about fisho il. Now that I'm here, I ask and wonder, would eating this particular PB truly be essential to my acne or a detriment to it and my fish oil diet??? Here's the Nutritional Facts so you can decipher yourself:
Specifically, 1300mg of Omega-6, 1000mg of Omega-3 and a 1:3:1 ratio of both per serving. What do you think???
Oh yeah??? Interesting.
I ate some of it just a couple of minutes ago with toast.................it sure is a bitch to spread on the bread. And I'm also feeling a little stomach-rumbling as I'm settling down after eating...............the expiration date on the jar is far off (November), but could there be something wrong with this batch??? *fears of another peanut butter fiasco/recall*
Hey guys, now that I've been here awhile I want to bring up an interesting product that I have eaten in the last few months:While browsing the local supermarket a couple of months ago for the least harmful peanut butter I could find (peanut butter has been a staple of my diet since I was very young, but I feel it may have become more of a detriment to my acne in the last couple of years as I developed acne............or maybe it was something else, but I do tend to eat a bit more than I should, especially off the jar with a knife. :shifty: ), I stumbled upon an interesting-looking oddity on the shelves that may have been what I was looking for:
http://www.smartbalance.com/omega3.html (First product on list)
A jar of "Smart Balance Omega" NATURAL peanut butter, with prominent claims of "1000mg of Omega 3's per serving" and "Omega-3 from flax-oil) among other healthy claims on it's label. I figured I'd give it a try and took it home with me (I bought it you dummies! :rolleyes: ), kinda hesistant as to how it would taste. Surprisingly, it tasted pretty good, and if they say that it's healthier than most other PB's than maybe I should run with it for awhile!!! I had already gone through two jars of this stuff before I came here and really found out about fisho il. Now that I'm here, I ask and wonder, would eating this particular PB truly be essential to my acne or a detriment to it and my fish oil diet??? Here's the Nutritional Facts so you can decipher yourself:
Specifically, 1300mg of Omega-6, 1000mg of Omega-3 and a 1:3:1 ratio of both per serving. What do you think???
I've been eating this stuff for a while too. If you going to eat PB, this is probably better than the others. I definitely wouldn't say its going to help your acne though especially since it still has molasses (although a small amount and better than HCF or regular sugar) and some people breakout from peanuts.
Hey guys, now that I've been here awhile I want to bring up an interesting product that I have eaten in the last few months:While browsing the local supermarket a couple of months ago for the least harmful peanut butter I could find (peanut butter has been a staple of my diet since I was very young, but I feel it may have become more of a detriment to my acne in the last couple of years as I developed acne............or maybe it was something else, but I do tend to eat a bit more than I should, especially off the jar with a knife. :shifty: ), I stumbled upon an interesting-looking oddity on the shelves that may have been what I was looking for:
http://www.smartbalance.com/omega3.html (First product on list)
A jar of "Smart Balance Omega" NATURAL peanut butter, with prominent claims of "1000mg of Omega 3's per serving" and "Omega-3 from flax-oil) among other healthy claims on it's label. I figured I'd give it a try and took it home with me (I bought it you dummies! :rolleyes: ), kinda hesistant as to how it would taste. Surprisingly, it tasted pretty good, and if they say that it's healthier than most other PB's than maybe I should run with it for awhile!!! I had already gone through two jars of this stuff before I came here and really found out about fisho il. Now that I'm here, I ask and wonder, would eating this particular PB truly be essential to my acne or a detriment to it and my fish oil diet??? Here's the Nutritional Facts so you can decipher yourself:
Specifically, 1300mg of Omega-6, 1000mg of Omega-3 and a 1:3:1 ratio of both per serving. What do you think???
Hey there,
I have that at my house too, but I didn't get it. It's hard to tell if it's really effective for the following reason:
http://newsletter.vitalchoice.com/e_articl...tgND,b1pTrCB7,w
It may or may not be true for this since smart balance is a pretty good product, but I just avoid it all together since I don't want to risk jeopardizing the effects I am having.
The funny thing is I used to eat this pasta because it was omega 3 fortified, but then now I don't even account for the omega 3 in that at all just in case.
The other reason it will probably not help is that, let's say naturally without peanut butter you're omega 6 intake is 2 grams a day, and your omega 3 is 4 grams a day (if you are doing the 4 grams regimen insisted). That would make it a 2:1 ratio on the side of omega 3 (good!). But the second you implement the peanut butter, no matter how much omega 3 it has, the omega 6 is good to match it, making your ratio even tighter, not better. So yeah, hope that helps.
But is it better than just eating peanut butter? Yes. But is it good for acne? Not necessarily.
check out the ratio in butter its almost perfect, and its such a dense source of energy look at the calorie amounts, i think milk products are very good for you but its just the way the cattle are treated with hormones and such makes it unhealty, ive been having someproblems keeping a healthy weight and i think dairy is the answer since i cut out all dairy years ago. http://www.nutritiondata.com/facts-C00001-01c2001.html
my most recent breakouts were because of all the bananas and fruit ive eaten over the past two weeks and all the fruit juice as well, i also believe my brand of fish oil is not very potent and fresh and i need to secure the best source of fresh fish oil and that means paying the big bucks.
Im still a big fish oil fan by the way.
check out the ratio in butter its almost perfect, and its such a dense source of energy look at the calorie amounts, i think milk products are very good for you but its just the way the cattle are treated with hormones and such makes it unhealty, ive been having someproblems keeping a healthy weight and i think dairy is the answer since i cut out all dairy years ago. http://www.nutritiondata.com/facts-C00001-01c2001.htmlmy most recent breakouts were because of all the bananas and fruit ive eaten over the past two weeks and all the fruit juice as well, i also believe my brand of fish oil is not very potent and fresh and i need to secure the best source of fresh fish oil and that means paying the big bucks.
Im still a big fish oil fan by the way.
That's interesting because if you check it for regular butter, not whipped, the ratio is a totally different story. I wonder why... Just buy organic butter if you're concerned about hormones, etc.
I'll come back and asnwer all the questions later, but I wanted to copy/paste some stuff here,
Thanks to AutonomousOne for bringing it to my attention by telling me about it,
Sebum content:
25% wax monoesters
41% triglycerides
16% free fatty acids
12% squalene
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sebum
Food in relation to triglycerides:
EATING CAUSES TRIGLYCERIDE LEVELS TO JUMP UP, BUT HOW FAR? TO FIND OUT, RESEARCHERS TOOK YOUNG, HEALTHY MALES, GAVE THEM A BREAKFAST OF A BAGEL WITH CREAM CHEESE, A GLASS OF MILK, AN EGG AND FRUIT, AND THEN THEIR BLOOD WAS TESTED TO SEE HOW THEIR FAT LEVELS INCREASED. BELIEVE IT OR NOT, THIS MODERATELY FATTY BREAKFAST CAUSED TRIGLYCERIDE LEVELS TO JUMP UP BY 40 POINTS, WHERE THEY STAYED FOR THREE HOURS. BUT IT'S WHAT HAPPENED TO THE TINY CELLS OF THE BODY THAT HAS RESEARCHERS CONCERNED.
http://www.ucdmc.ucdavis.edu/pulse/scripts...glycerides.html
omega 3 in relation to triglycerides:
four grams per day of omega-3 fatty acids (EPA and DHA) reduced serum triglyceride levels by 25-30%.
http://www.optimal-heart-health.com/omega-3.html
So yea, that's basically the sebum composition, triglyceride, food, omega 3 connection
Well I got some fish oil yesterday as it was cheaper / more EPA/DHA per pill than the salmon oil I had, Wild Oats brand. So far no catastrophic allergic breakouts so that's a great sign. I'll try to up my dosage to 3g gradually, but 2g is treating me pretty well too.
PS About omega-3's breaking people out, as far as I remember the main times I got catastrophic breakouts from them was pre-liver flushing and liver herb supplementing. That link above is basically stating that the body is utilizing the n-3's wrong, resulting in more androgens and thus more acne - I believe it would be more specifically stated that the liver is what is not utilizing the n-3's correctly seeing as it is the organ most involved in fat digestion and metabolism. Food for thought there...
Well I got some fish oil yesterday as it was cheaper / more EPA/DHA per pill than the salmon oil I had, Wild Oats brand. So far no catastrophic allergic breakouts so that's a great sign. I'll try to up my dosage to 3g gradually, but 2g is treating me pretty well too.PS About omega-3's breaking people out, as far as I remember the main times I got catastrophic breakouts from them was pre-liver flushing and liver herb supplementing. That link above is basically stating that the body is utilizing the n-3's wrong, resulting in more androgens and thus more acne - I believe it would be more specifically stated that the liver is what is not utilizing the n-3's correctly seeing as it is the organ most involved in fat digestion and metabolism. Food for thought there...
I was looking into some herbs for sebum reduction, and came across a point that said how acne is due to (something like) dealing with the pH of your stomach... or in other words, the acid quantity or strength is weak, hence not digesting and metabolizing fats properly... hence causing all sorts of issues with acne (high triglycerides, cholesterol, improper methods for dealing with the fats by excreting through sebaceous glands) etc. What are your thoughts on that?
Stomach acid doesn't digest fats, it's the bile released from the liver that does that. I've heard that theory before but I think it's generally the digestive system in general and not just a lack of HCI that plays a role. That can be caused by a plethora of factors, but the outcomes usually are bad digestion and not absorbing all your nutrients, as well as generating more toxins inside your gut. I've been of the opinion for a while now that problems in the digestive system and liver are really the roots behind acne. Omega-3's obviously benefit both systems to a great degree because they reduce inflammation and promote faster healing, but I think the reason some people, possibly including myself in the past, are breaking out from the omega-3's is because of the liver failing to utilize the n-3's in the "right" way.
(Sidenote: The liver is your main source of cholesterol in your body -it produces more cholesterol naturally on a daily basis than most people get in their diets, and a good diet with plenty of fiber and antioxidants is going to ensure that that cholesterol works in the way it was meant and doesn't become oxidizied / clogging. This all comes from the 2nd most prominent cholesterol theory advocating antioxidants as a treatment, not the main theory you hear about in the news that tells you to avoid saturated fats at all costs.)
Stomach acid doesn't digest fats, it's the bile released from the liver that does that. I've heard that theory before but I think it's generally the digestive system in general and not just a lack of HCI that plays a role. That can be caused by a plethora of factors, but the outcomes usually are bad digestion and not absorbing all your nutrients, as well as generating more toxins inside your gut. I've been of the opinion for a while now that problems in the digestive system and liver are really the roots behind acne. Omega-3's obviously benefit both systems to a great degree because they reduce inflammation and promote faster healing, but I think the reason some people, possibly including myself in the past, are breaking out from the omega-3's is because of the liver failing to utilize the n-3's in the "right" way.(Sidenote: The liver is your main source of cholesterol in your body -it produces more cholesterol naturally on a daily basis than most people get in their diets, and a good diet with plenty of fiber and antioxidants is going to ensure that that cholesterol works in the way it was meant and doesn't become oxidizied / clogging. This all comes from the 2nd most prominent cholesterol theory advocating antioxidants as a treatment, not the main theory you hear about in the news that tells you to avoid saturated fats at all costs.)
Thank you for that post, it makes a lot of sense. I never knew that, especially about the bile.
Just letting you all know, there is a good way to measure if you are still at a deficit. This may not apply to everyone. But if you have keratosis pilaris on the back of your arms, or anywhere else (chicken skin) it's also because of a deficit of omega 3. once it's gone, you will know your body is not at a deficit anymore, and that any acne in relation to omega 3 should not be there. I had it bad on the back of my arms, and it's gradually going away. My left arm is almost smooth now. My right arm is catching up, but it takes time. Even with high doses, your body's omega 3 level takes time to catch up with all the years of deficit.
So just letting you all know, don't give up soon, it takes time, keep at it. It's going to be like my omega 3 equilibrium meter. I know it's not there yet, but it's coming up fast. It may take up to 4 months total, but that's alright. One other way I can tell is that my scalp acne is all gone, ALL gone, not one bump. And my hair is long too. It was there for a long time.
At least I know the full results aren't here yet, and they are still coming (all the benefits you read about on the first post and everything relating to omega 3). So keep taking it, they will come, surely, but slowly.
I don't know if this has been asked, but you think it'll help get rid of chest and back acne? I just read about you scalp acne. So I'm guessing yes.
I see a correlation with my back acne as well, it's getting less and less, but it's not gone yet. I hope so, but I'll keep you updated. I really hope so, it should (eventually soon).
can someone look at their container of fish oil and tell me if under the "supplement facts" there is vitamin E natural listed there?
i'm using carlson EPA gems, but now im worried because it says here vitamin E 1OIU (33% of soft gel) ... and vit E supplements are derived from soy (which i am allergic to). ARGH
i need a brand that doesnt contain Vit E
*EDIT*
i found a brand here... hopefully they sell it at my local health food store....
[url= http://www.vitaminlab.com/product.cfm?selected_items=8512&OMEGA-3-FISH-OIL ]http://
*EDIT AGAIN*
crap nvm... they are online only.
anyone know of a brand that has fish oil WITHOUT vit E? (ie. soyfree?)