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xxndnromeoxx said:b&r said:Does anyone have an opinion on this brand?https://www.amazon.com/Maxi-Omega-2000-Kosher-Fish/dp/B002CVTY8O/
I don't eat gelatin and this is the only one I've found so far that doesn't have it. It looks a bit pricey though so I'd rather not get it if there is a good alternative.
That is really expensive. You don't want to spend that much every 10 days!
Can you take the liquid form? The Carlson Brand?
yeah, I got some yesterday. Seems good, once I figured out how to open the bottle :redface: Thanks.
I only take 2 fish oil capsules a day and have been for about 2 months and have noticed the difference with just 2 a day not sure if you really need that higher doseage for it to work good? My bottle of tablets says to take only 1 a day and not to take more than that so just by taking 2 I feel abit worried I dont think I would feel comfortable exceeding the doesage by loads but it seems to work with 2.
My face and body is def less oily than it used to be and I dont shine as much in the day if at all! wowow well worth taking x
I only take 2 fish oil capsules a day and have been for about 2 months and have noticed the difference with just 2 a day not sure if you really need that higher doseage for it to work good? My bottle of tablets says to take only 1 a day and not to take more than that so just by taking 2 I feel abit worried I dont think I would feel comfortable exceeding the doesage by loads but it seems to work with 2.My face and body is def less oily than it used to be and I dont shine as much in the day if at all! wowow well worth taking x
Hey, thanks for your reply, I am glad it's working well for you! Keep it up :), here I will help you address any insecurities about the dosages.
I used to be just like you in the beginning, in fact I only took 3 pills out of pure fear of thinking taking more than what the bottle says is bad bad bad! (3 pills, is what mine says). Check the first few pages, it'll show you :).
Then I stopped, and thought. Why am I actually taking this? To help acne of course. But then I thought, how much am I even supposed to take, it would be a waste of time if I actually bought it and I'm not doing it right. So with the help of the research autonomous, arivienta, and all the other wonderful people in this thread found and contributed, the reason why EFA's are necessary is because we are at an imbalance. So I found I needed at least 6 pills to get back at PAR (average).
I further realized that if we have a sufficient, safe, amount of omega 3 in our body, yet still under unsafe levels, it would be optimal instead. So I found that optimal levels were 3 to 4 grams of omega 3. I calculated that and saw it was 10 pills. I started to get worried! Then I wondered, how much is 10 pills put into physical form exactly? I found that it's only two and a half teaspoons worth of good healthy oil!! Wow, 🙂 Don't believe me? Look at Carlson's fish oil, two and a half teaspoons is the equivalent in omega 3 in taking 10 pills. Which is like nothing! We drink in more bad oil drinking a 2% glass of milk.
So a little bit of logic, science, and relativity is sometimes all we need for assurance.
Here check this out
http://www.acne.org/messageboard/index.php...t&p=1796820
So basically, staying at safe, yet optimal levels in the beginning till you see satisfactory results is greatly recommended. Then once you do, you must keep a maintenance dosage of a balance of omega 3 to 6... (if you want to drop it any lower).
So I'm glad you are seeing benefits at a low level, but if you do decide to increase, now you know what the optimal safe levels are :). More than likely, at your level you won't see the results I am seeing, but at least you now know what not to exceed, and what you need to be taking to see full results =). Good luck!
xxndnromeoxx, What was the condition of your acne before you started this new regimen with the fish oil?
Do these look alright?
http://www.walgreens.com/store/product.jsp...p;id=prod835497
These seem to be ok, i would see if someone else had anything bad to say about them but they look like i'd take them. They have vitamen E in them so they should be pretty good, and it's 1000mg too, so if you start of with 3 a day then move up to 9-10 you should be fine.
Sorry about that wierd double post quote thingy
I only take 2 fish oil capsules a day and have been for about 2 months and have noticed the difference with just 2 a day not sure if you really need that higher doseage for it to work good? My bottle of tablets says to take only 1 a day and not to take more than that so just by taking 2 I feel abit worried I dont think I would feel comfortable exceeding the doesage by loads but it seems to work with 2.My face and body is def less oily than it used to be and I dont shine as much in the day if at all! wowow well worth taking x
Hey, thanks for your reply, I am glad it's working well for you! Keep it up :), here I will help you address any insecurities about the dosages.
I used to be just like you in the beginning, in fact I only took 3 pills out of pure fear of thinking taking more than what the bottle says is bad bad bad! (3 pills, is what mine says). Check the first few pages, it'll show you :).
Then I stopped, and thought. Why am I actually taking this? To help acne of course. But then I thought, how much am I even supposed to take, it would be a waste of time if I actually bought it and I'm not doing it right. So with the help of the research autonomous, arivienta, and all the other wonderful people in this thread found and contributed, the reason why EFA's are necessary is because we are at an imbalance. So I found I needed at least 6 pills to get back at PAR (average).
I further realized that if we have a sufficient, safe, amount of omega 3 in our body, yet still under unsafe levels, it would be optimal instead. So I found that optimal levels were 3 to 4 grams of omega 3. I calculated that and saw it was 10 pills. I started to get worried! Then I wondered, how much is 10 pills put into physical form exactly? I found that it's only two and a half teaspoons worth of good healthy oil!! Wow, 🙂 Don't believe me? Look at Carlson's fish oil, two and a half teaspoons is the equivalent in omega 3 in taking 10 pills. Which is like nothing! We drink in more bad oil drinking a 2% glass of milk.
So a little bit of logic, science, and relativity is sometimes all we need for assurance.
Here check this out
http://www.acne.org/messageboard/index.php...t&p=1796820
So basically, staying at safe, yet optimal levels in the beginning till you see satisfactory results is greatly recommended. Then once you do, you must keep a maintenance dosage of a balance of omega 3 to 6... (if you want to drop it any lower).
So I'm glad you are seeing benefits at a low level, but if you do decide to increase, now you know what the optimal safe levels are :). More than likely, at your level you won't see the results I am seeing, but at least you now know what not to exceed, and what you need to be taking to see full results =). Good luck!
Hiya ah thanks for clearing that up hun! Yeah think I will stick with what I am doing as its working and im almost clear wowohoho! good to know though if i do need to up it in the future! x
Would it be safe to just start at 10 a day rather than 3?
No, well maybe. But, still don't risk it, you'll get results, let's just do this safely and effectively :). You'll still be doing much better than I was when I started.
One reason taking only 3 a day is necessary is because you can see if your body has any reactions (some people are allergic to fish). And if you feel okay (which you 99% will). Then if you are fine, you can up it to 6, and then 10 a day. Just don't do it on the first day. After all, it's just a fat =) And it's relatively so little, so you will be fine.
Hiya ah thanks for clearing that up hun! Yeah think I will stick with what I am doing as its working and im almost clear wowohoho! good to know though if i do need to up it in the future! x
No problem! At least now you have the comfort of knowing that you can go up if you want to and you'd still be safe and get more results if the amount you feel right now isn't enough. Hehe, win win situation eh?
I've been reading a lot about how fish oil is helping with people's acne and I would like to try it and see if it would help for me but I'm reading things on how it can cause brain hemorrhage and low blood pressure, that kinds worries me :redface:I read the first post and I'm going to try figure out my diet but even then I'm afraid I'll take to much and when I start reading side effects on things it worries me *sigh*
If it makes you feel good, you can take the liquid form, since you'd only need two teaspoons worth :).
About the side effects, you shouldn't worry unless you are getting over 3 grams.. and by over, I mean way over. And you aren't so don't worry. It's kind of like saying, eating fatty food (the bad kind of fat) will put you at risk for a heart attack. It may be so, but that is years and years in, and more than 3 grams of bad fat. Just a glass of 2% milk has more fat than that, and that risk is over years and years. So don't worry, just put it all in perspective :). You'll be fine, truely. I'm the first one to get scared about things, but that helped me put it all into perspective.
Okay, yeah that helps alot, thanks for clearing it up!!
I tried doing that chart thing to figure out your diet and see how much natural omega's I'm getting but its so hard to figure it out. I can't figure out that ratio thing at all :confused:
Would it be ok even if I'm not on any "special" diet or don't know how much I eat anyway, to just start taking fish oil everyday? seems like everyone usually starts with 3 a day is that alright or should I just start with one and work my way up?
And I didn't see in the post or didn't get a full understand, but what is the difference between omega's 3 and 6?
I've been reading a lot about how fish oil is helping with people's acne and I would like to try it and see if it would help for me but I'm reading things on how it can cause brain hemorrhage and low blood pressure, that kinds worries me :redface:I read the first post and I'm going to try figure out my diet but even then I'm afraid I'll take to much and when I start reading side effects on things it worries me *sigh*
If it makes you feel good, you can take the liquid form, since you'd only need two teaspoons worth :).
About the side effects, you shouldn't worry unless you are getting over 3 grams.. and by over, I mean way over. And you aren't so don't worry. It's kind of like saying, eating fatty food (the bad kind of fat) will put you at risk for a heart attack. It may be so, but that is years and years in, and more than 3 grams of bad fat. Just a glass of 2% milk has more fat than that, and that risk is over years and years. So don't worry, just put it all in perspective :). You'll be fine, truely. I'm the first one to get scared about things, but that helped me put it all into perspective.
Okay, yeah that helps alot, thanks for clearing it up!!
I tried doing that chart thing to figure out your diet and see how much natural omega's I'm getting but its so hard to figure it out. I can't figure out that ratio thing at all :confused:
Would it be ok even if I'm not on any "special" diet or don't know how much I eat anyway, to just start taking fish oil everyday? seems like everyone usually starts with 3 a day is that alright or should I just start with one and work my way up?
And I didn't see in the post or didn't get a full understand, but what is the difference between omega's 3 and 6?
Guess what 🙂 not really, you are free to eat as you like! Except don't eat nuts and egg yolks, those have really bad quantities of omega 6.
The omega 3 corrects your body really well, trust me on that one. Even though I eat healthy, I come from big family, and we usually eat really bad fried foods during the weekends when we have family over. Like now, I had a lot of bad food, but I didn't even have to worry beacause I am getting in so much omega 3, that I don't have a ratio anymore, it's just at a really high level. 3 grams of omega 3 is a lot but please, just be relatively smart, you don't to restrict yourself too much but use your common sense =) Don't over eat, but just eat your fill, eat what you wish, the healthier the better but I understand life is hectic and we can't always eat what we like, so this is a liberty with omega 3's. But of course, the healthier the better, try your best. I'm really strict because I want to get clear faster and it's just a matter of time.
So don't worry about the ratio thing right now and just take 3 grams of omega 3. Is that better =).
Start with 3 a day, then after a few days, work your way up, within a week you should be fine with 10. This way you'll know if you are feeling any issues, which you won't, but you know, precautionary sake. It will introduce is slowly into your body.
Well it would be too long to explain what omega 3's and 6's are but they are essential fatty acids. We generally get 20 to 50 times more omega 6 in our diet than omega 3 (for people that eat like whatever). Even before, I used to get 8x more eating a healthy diet. People in the past had 1:1 ratio of 3 to 6, a perfect balance which corrected everything. The reason why we need more omega 3 than 6 is because it's even more beneficial than just being at a balance. When you get the results you need, you can stop taking that much omega 3 if you wish. But for now, 3 grams is perfect =) And it will overshadow your omega 6 content if you eat relatively healthy.
Hope that helps. For more info just google omega 6 and 3, it will go on forever and you can find all that out.
A little testimonial from me:
I've been well aware of omega-3's and health for awhile. However, in the past, all major supplemental sources of omega 3's (flax oil, cod liver oil, fish oil) resulted in some of the most catastrophic breakouts I've had to date, akin to an allergic response. This left me much discouraged, though I've always been fine with salmon/fish, and omega-3 eggs. So for the longest time I'd eat either of those and figure I was getting all the DHA/EPA I needed, because I never really researched dosages / optimal grams per day, just the benefits that they have on health (which as you know, ranges everywhere from improving brain power to blood lipid profiles to inflammation to liver function to acne).
Well, after this thread somehow crept to 40 or so pages and I didn't really notice, I figured hey, maybe the OP is on to something. Maybe I should start supplementing with omega-3's again and get salmon oil this time, hoping for no catastrophic breakouts as what I've had in the past. It should be noted I've been eating omega-3 eggs daily for awhile now and getting probably 0.3-0.8g EPA/DHA daily. I've been on the salmon oil for the past week going up to about 2g of omega-3's daily, and the results have been quite good. I think mentally I feel a little fresher / more alert. My skin went from pretty inflamed (had a bad breakout from out of nowhere about a week and a half ago) to visibly getting better every day. Now I'm down to small whiteheads where the bad, inflamed, almost cystic breakout had occured, with no new breakouts to date.
If you've been reading any of my posts you know I have a tendency to get 90 percent clear and than start breaking out again, but so far the omega-3's have been showing very promising benefit and by the 1 month mark, hopefully they'll continue to work their magic on me as my cells become more and more saturated with them 
I've long considered diet to be the main source one should get their nutrients from, but in this day and age it's an unfortunate but inevitable fact that everyone should be supplementing with EPA/DHA as it's not very realistic to eat 6-12 omega-3 eggs a day to get the ecquivalent amount of good fats, nor is it so great to be eating fish on a daily basis anymore (sad...). Add to that the fact that our meat has been devoid of abundant omega 3's for atleast 100 years and you begin to see why so many Americans have shitty health these days. I have a strong conviction that if every American got 2-3g of omega 3's in their diet on a daily basis, we'd have half the heart disease, diabetes, and other chronic health problems. All research points that they are a forgotten macronutrient as essential as protein in the diet, and without an abundance of them you're bound to have problems with your body.
an update:
well my diet is perfect and im still breaking out. If anything it could be my increased fruit or the fish oil pills im taking are crap. but its really hard to tell because its not that obvious im not gorging on any bad food or anything its just the disease doing its magic in spite of many changes ive implemented.
i have not been able to reproduce the results i got in the first 3 weeks which is close to 100% clear and there really isnt anything im consuming that could really be an obvious culprit.
so the plan is now to change my fish oil brand, stop the high dose and just shoot for 1:1 ratio and get my hands on some new topicals im shooting for taz and differin.
im not totally scrapping this fish oil thing but im not exactly praising it either ive gotton some pretty mixed results ranging from amazing to blah and its been 7 weeks so its safe to say ive given it a good shot.
well we will see what happens when i change my brand, but its hard to believe that the fish oil they are selling is really this unreliable in quality but it still is possible.
As much as i want to believe i could turn this all around with diet, im really not seeing much evidence to suggest it but there is some thats for sure i just wish it was so much more obvious because honestly my diets been pretty damn good for like eight months straight. the only new things im doing now is less omega 6 more omega 3 and ive cut out the grains all within the last two months for that amount of effort i would have like to see some astounding results that are sustained but its still up and down just as much as before with the exception of a near total clearing of my face in the first three weeks of fish oil. still going through alot of troubleshoooting that seems like more trouble then its worth. at least thats how ive been feeling today.
A little testimonial from me:I've been well aware of omega-3's and health for awhile. However, in the past, all major supplemental sources of omega 3's (flax oil, cod liver oil, fish oil) resulted in some of the most catastrophic breakouts I've had to date, akin to an allergic response. This left me much discouraged, though I've always been fine with salmon/fish, and omega-3 eggs. So for the longest time I'd eat either of those and figure I was getting all the DHA/EPA I needed, because I never really researched dosages / optimal grams per day, just the benefits that they have on health (which as you know, ranges everywhere from improving brain power to blood lipid profiles to inflammation to liver function to acne).
Well, after this thread somehow crept to 40 or so pages and I didn't really notice, I figured hey, maybe the OP is on to something. Maybe I should start supplementing with omega-3's again and get salmon oil this time, hoping for no catastrophic breakouts as what I've had in the past. It should be noted I've been eating omega-3 eggs daily for awhile now and getting probably 0.3-0.8g EPA/DHA daily. I've been on the salmon oil for the past week going up to about 2g of omega-3's daily, and the results have been quite good. I think mentally I feel a little fresher / more alert. My skin went from pretty inflamed (had a bad breakout from out of nowhere about a week and a half ago) to visibly getting better every day. Now I'm down to small whiteheads where the bad, inflamed, almost cystic breakout had occured, with no new breakouts to date.
If you've been reading any of my posts you know I have a tendency to get 90 percent clear and than start breaking out again, but so far the omega-3's have been showing very promising benefit and by the 1 month mark, hopefully they'll continue to work their magic on me as my cells become more and more saturated with them 🙂
I've long considered diet to be the main source one should get their nutrients from, but in this day and age it's an unfortunate but inevitable fact that everyone should be supplementing with EPA/DHA as it's not very realistic to eat 6-12 omega-3 eggs a day to get the ecquivalent amount of good fats, nor is it so great to be eating fish on a daily basis anymore (sad...). Add to that the fact that our meat has been devoid of abundant omega 3's for atleast 100 years and you begin to see why so many Americans have shitty health these days. I have a strong conviction that if every American got 2-3g of omega 3's in their diet on a daily basis, we'd have half the heart disease, diabetes, and other chronic health problems. All research points that they are a forgotten macronutrient as essential as protein in the diet, and without an abundance of them you're bound to have problems with your body.
Yea you could say its the forgotton nutrient.
Whats also interesting is that they are considering classifiing all the newly discovered phytochemicals as recomended vitamins since they play very important roles in our health.
this is just something i read though dont know if it was from a reliable source or not.
an update:well my diet is perfect and im still breaking out. If anything it could be my increased fruit or the fish oil pills im taking are crap. but its really hard to tell because its not that obvious im not gorging on any bad food or anything its just the disease doing its magic in spite of many changes ive implemented.
i have not been able to reproduce the results i got in the first 3 weeks which is close to 100% clear and there really isnt anything im consuming that could really be an obvious culprit.
so the plan is now to change my fish oil brand, stop the high dose and just shoot for 1:1 ratio and get my hands on some new topicals im shooting for taz and differin.
im not totally scrapping this fish oil thing but im not exactly praising it either ive gotton some pretty mixed results ranging from amazing to blah and its been 7 weeks so its safe to say ive given it a good shot.
well we will see what happens when i change my brand, but its hard to believe that the fish oil they are selling is really this unreliable in quality but it still is possible.
As much as i want to believe i could turn this all around with diet, im really not seeing much evidence to suggest it but there is some thats for sure i just wish it was so much more obvious because honestly my diets been pretty damn good for like eight months straight. the only new things im doing now is less omega 6 more omega 3 and ive cut out the grains all within the last two months for that amount of effort i would have like to see some astounding results that are sustained but its still up and down just as much as before with the exception of a near total clearing of my face in the first three weeks of fish oil. still going through alot of troubleshoooting that seems like more trouble then its worth. at least thats how ive been feeling today.
Tell me your full regimen when it comes to cleansing, perhaps we can find something in there. Also, which moisturizer do you use, and do you happen to blot through the day? Tell me more
I think there might be a side effect for me. The only thing i added was the omega 3. I had been taking one pill per day for a long time and then i upped it to 3 pills and then to six and when i took the six I got my period much earlier than i would normally. My cycle shortened so i went back down to 3-4 pills per day and i think it is still happening. I'm gonna go down to 2 pills and see what happens. It has to be effecting my hormones though. This has happened to me in the past seperate times with burdock root, and B6.
This major sucked my acne wasn't that bad never had it on forehead or sideburns or around my eye area, i started taking fish oli tablets and not all my face is covered.
Wish i never did it, but im glad it works for somepeople, the sad thing the acne i got from fish oil is the type that takes a few days to get on your face but years to remove 
Guess what 🙂 not really, you are free to eat as you like! Except don't eat nuts and egg yolks, those have really bad quantities of omega 6.The omega 3 corrects your body really well, trust me on that one. Even though I eat healthy, I come from big family, and we usually eat really bad fried foods during the weekends when we have family over. Like now, I had a lot of bad food, but I didn't even have to worry beacause I am getting in so much omega 3, that I don't have a ratio anymore, it's just at a really high level. 3 grams of omega 3 is a lot but please, just be relatively smart, you don't to restrict yourself too much but use your common sense =) Don't over eat, but just eat your fill, eat what you wish, the healthier the better but I understand life is hectic and we can't always eat what we like, so this is a liberty with omega 3's. But of course, the healthier the better, try your best. I'm really strict because I want to get clear faster and it's just a matter of time.
So don't worry about the ratio thing right now and just take 3 grams of omega 3. Is that better =).
Start with 3 a day, then after a few days, work your way up, within a week you should be fine with 10. This way you'll know if you are feeling any issues, which you won't, but you know, precautionary sake. It will introduce is slowly into your body.
Well it would be too long to explain what omega 3's and 6's are but they are essential fatty acids. We generally get 20 to 50 times more omega 6 in our diet than omega 3 (for people that eat like whatever). Even before, I used to get 8x more eating a healthy diet. People in the past had 1:1 ratio of 3 to 6, a perfect balance which corrected everything. The reason why we need more omega 3 than 6 is because it's even more beneficial than just being at a balance. When you get the results you need, you can stop taking that much omega 3 if you wish. But for now, 3 grams is perfect =) And it will overshadow your omega 6 content if you eat relatively healthy.
Hope that helps. For more info just google omega 6 and 3, it will go on forever and you can find all that out.
Sounds good to be I'll get some lol Thanks for the all information!
One more question is there any particular brand I should get?
I think there might be a side effect for me. The only thing i added was the omega 3. I had been taking one pill per day for a long time and then i upped it to 3 pills and then to six and when i took the six I got my period much earlier than i would normally. My cycle shortened so i went back down to 3-4 pills per day and i think it is still happening. I'm gonna go down to 2 pills and see what happens. It has to be effecting my hormones though. This has happened to me in the past seperate times with burdock root, and B6.
Yes, I "think" it regulates hormones to normal levels as well, I believe. Because hormones often dictate excess sebum production and keratin production, hence that is how it may help to regulate keratin production (one of the main reasons for acne being caused).
This major sucked my acne wasn't that bad never had it on forehead or sideburns or around my eye area, i started taking fish oli tablets and not all my face is covered.Wish i never did it, but im glad it works for somepeople, the sad thing the acne i got from fish oil is the type that takes a few days to get on your face but years to remove 🙁
Please elaborate on a few things
1) when did you start taking it
2) how long were you on it
3) do you have any fish allergies. If not, how do you know?
4) how did you make a correlation
5) what's your regimen like, and how old are you?
If it's an allergy, it's possible. But other than that, it more than likely has absolutely no actual relation because it's a healthy essential fat your body needs.
Let me know, perhaps we can help you out the best we can.
Maybe I'm just dense, I don't know... but how to you figure it's 300mg when the bottle says it's 1000mg?
If you take a look on the back of the bottle in the ingredients, there is a list that says "epa" and "dha" next to them, there are a certain number of mg next to each one. Add those two up and you have your omega 3 content.
Sounds good to be I'll get some lol Thanks for the all information!One more question is there any particular brand I should get?
Amazon: Member's Mark. If you can, get that one. It's $14 for 400. I use those, highly effective, has vit e for antioxidation purposes (so it stays fresh), and no fish burps.
Or walmart brand.
Or for liquid, Carlson.
Don't gamble with anything else. If you wish to, that's up to you :).
A little testimonial from me:I've been well aware of omega-3's and health for awhile. However, in the past, all major supplemental sources of omega 3's (flax oil, cod liver oil, fish oil) resulted in some of the most catastrophic breakouts I've had to date, akin to an allergic response. This left me much discouraged, though I've always been fine with salmon/fish, and omega-3 eggs. So for the longest time I'd eat either of those and figure I was getting all the DHA/EPA I needed, because I never really researched dosages / optimal grams per day, just the benefits that they have on health (which as you know, ranges everywhere from improving brain power to blood lipid profiles to inflammation to liver function to acne).
Well, after this thread somehow crept to 40 or so pages and I didn't really notice, I figured hey, maybe the OP is on to something. Maybe I should start supplementing with omega-3's again and get salmon oil this time, hoping for no catastrophic breakouts as what I've had in the past. It should be noted I've been eating omega-3 eggs daily for awhile now and getting probably 0.3-0.8g EPA/DHA daily. I've been on the salmon oil for the past week going up to about 2g of omega-3's daily, and the results have been quite good. I think mentally I feel a little fresher / more alert. My skin went from pretty inflamed (had a bad breakout from out of nowhere about a week and a half ago) to visibly getting better every day. Now I'm down to small whiteheads where the bad, inflamed, almost cystic breakout had occured, with no new breakouts to date.
If you've been reading any of my posts you know I have a tendency to get 90 percent clear and than start breaking out again, but so far the omega-3's have been showing very promising benefit and by the 1 month mark, hopefully they'll continue to work their magic on me as my cells become more and more saturated with them 🙂
I've long considered diet to be the main source one should get their nutrients from, but in this day and age it's an unfortunate but inevitable fact that everyone should be supplementing with EPA/DHA as it's not very realistic to eat 6-12 omega-3 eggs a day to get the ecquivalent amount of good fats, nor is it so great to be eating fish on a daily basis anymore (sad...). Add to that the fact that our meat has been devoid of abundant omega 3's for atleast 100 years and you begin to see why so many Americans have shitty health these days. I have a strong conviction that if every American got 2-3g of omega 3's in their diet on a daily basis, we'd have half the heart disease, diabetes, and other chronic health problems. All research points that they are a forgotten macronutrient as essential as protein in the diet, and without an abundance of them you're bound to have problems with your body.
Thank you for the very informative feedback with your trials! I am sad that you had allergic reactions to fish oil, but am glad you found salmon oil to be beneficial. What brand have you used? That way I can go on and recommend it to others based on it as well in case anyone has any reactions to the other omega 3 sources.
It's very true, I hate the thought of taking pills, but it's sad to say with EFA's, we have to, since eating lots of fish (even though possible) may contain too much mercury, just eating other omega 3 sources, isn't enough either. I don't know how our ancestors did it!
I am glad your making progress, I cannot wait till you get into taking 3 grams a day, over a course of a couple of weeks. You'll really notice your improvements fly higher.
By the way, how old are you, tell me more about yourself. I want to know.
This weekend I am going to a major overhaul of the first post, because it's too much text, especially in terms of clutter. It's not all necessary, and it's repetitive due to the lack of editing. Especially all that was learned from experience and all the knowledge here, the dosage explenation will be much easier, and more concise. I'll get straight to the point, talk about what causes acne, and why this helps with it (keratinization, sebum production/quality). Also talking about doses (starting, during, and maintenance).
Definitely giving thanks to everyone as well, it was my mistake before, and I will write that in there clear as crystal.
Omega 3 does not cause hemorrhagic stroke:
The factoid (a term I like, invented by a friend of mine, to describe unsubstantiated facts, like "old wive's tales") that fish oil can lead to hemorrhagic stroke actually arises from a single paper, written in the 1970's, describing mortality statistics for a population of Greenland Eskimos (Inuit), and comparing those figures to the Danish. It was found that hemorrhagic stroke was more likely in the Eskimos, and they eat more fish, and fish affects clotting parameters, so......let's blame it on the fish.
However, it has been clearly shown that no other population eating high quantities of fish has that problem. It has also been clearly shown that the problem aggregates in specific families. It has also been clearly shown that the problem is actually one of a genetic defect in artery wall construction, actually localized to a single region of the brain, leading to catastrophic rupture. It's a problem of genetic inbreeding (the founder effect), not from eating fish.
Yes, fish oil reduces clotting tendencies. But only if your clotting tendency is too high to begin with. The problem is that most people's blood is far too likely to clot in the first place (that's why heart attack and occlusive stroke are so common). Fish oil helps restore normal clotting parameters, but it will not do more than balance things out. It will not cause you to bleed to death. It will just keep your blood from coagulating abnormally (which is typical today, seen as normal, but actually abnormal).
Here are two full-text articles which clearly show that omega-3 PUFA intake is **NOT** related to hemorrhagic stroke incidence. Period. End of story.
http://stroke.ahajournals.org/cgi/content/...2a7906f6f43eeda
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/alter/20031218/msgs/296333.html
an update:well my diet is perfect and im still breaking out. If anything it could be my increased fruit or the fish oil pills im taking are crap. but its really hard to tell because its not that obvious im not gorging on any bad food or anything its just the disease doing its magic in spite of many changes ive implemented.
i have not been able to reproduce the results i got in the first 3 weeks which is close to 100% clear and there really isnt anything im consuming that could really be an obvious culprit.
so the plan is now to change my fish oil brand, stop the high dose and just shoot for 1:1 ratio and get my hands on some new topicals im shooting for taz and differin.
im not totally scrapping this fish oil thing but im not exactly praising it either ive gotton some pretty mixed results ranging from amazing to blah and its been 7 weeks so its safe to say ive given it a good shot.
well we will see what happens when i change my brand, but its hard to believe that the fish oil they are selling is really this unreliable in quality but it still is possible.
As much as i want to believe i could turn this all around with diet, im really not seeing much evidence to suggest it but there is some thats for sure i just wish it was so much more obvious because honestly my diets been pretty damn good for like eight months straight. the only new things im doing now is less omega 6 more omega 3 and ive cut out the grains all within the last two months for that amount of effort i would have like to see some astounding results that are sustained but its still up and down just as much as before with the exception of a near total clearing of my face in the first three weeks of fish oil. still going through alot of troubleshoooting that seems like more trouble then its worth. at least thats how ive been feeling today.
I hear you on this. I'd say its probably unlikely that fish oil or any one supplement can really rid us of acne no matter how beneficial it is. Yes, it does happen on occasion, but for every success story we read there are how many failures that we don't read about. I also feel similiar to you about diet. For the level of strictness I've been following, you'd think after three months, I'd improve more. I think this is why the bobmckee thread is so great, you really have to have a multi-faceted approach.
All I can say is to just keep trying new things no matter how crazy they are as long as they seem safe. Although, the Clearogen has improved me some, my current project now is getting myself to become more regular since I've definitely had digestive issues for as long as I can remember and wouldn't be suprised if its linked.
I hear you on this. I'd say its probably unlikely that fish oil or any one supplement can really rid us of acne no matter how beneficial it is. Yes, it does happen on occasion, but for every success story we read there are how many failures that we don't read about. I also feel similiar to you about diet. For the level of strictness I've been following, you'd think after three months, I'd improve more. I think this is why the bobmckee thread is so great, you really have to have a multi-faceted approach.All I can say is to just keep trying new things no matter how crazy they are as long as they seem safe. Although, the Clearogen has improved me some, my current project now is getting myself to become more regular since I've definitely had digestive issues for as long as I can remember and wouldn't be suprised if its linked.
Also the other thing is, it's an entire program, we have to ensure that the other areas of our regimen are as strict as our intake (washing, exfoliating, moisturizing). It's such a stupid balance. For instance, too much moisturizer is also bad due to how it can plug pores with any excess skin cells at the top or excess dead skin.
Even the smallest, most unlikely things, can plug our pores. For instance, I never thought of this before till 2 weeks in (the last two weeks I'd be getting lots of clogged pores), and I realized that it was because of my blotting sheets. I would use these waxy seat covers. It turns out that they flake really easily and within hours after using them I would have bumps on my skin (plugged pores). 2 weeks later I found out why, those seat covers were flaking, so little but you saw them on a black sheet and it's possible how it came off while blotting and plugged my pore, replicating dead skin. The minute I stopped is the minute they never came back. I kept blaming everything else because those seat covers were the last things I'd think about too.
Sometimes the final steps are under our noses, never give up and keep thinking!
Have you guys tried acv? It really does a great job at flushing the system out well for every bad meal you eat, etc.