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Okay i don't mean to sound lazy but i really don't want to look through 163 pages can someone please just tell me which supplement i should be taking to reduce oil production, fish oil or omega 3,6, and 9 , cod liver or a combination?? The original poster didn't make it clear. I'm very confused by this topic but i really want to add in some supplement to help with my excessive oilyness... Thank you in advance
I'm confused too about taking fish oil or flax? I've taken fish oil capsules before and broken out in a wierd rash. I just started taking flax capsules but now I'm not sure if I should be. I have cystic acne and am going on accutane soon but I heard flax was beneficial for overall health, including skin. So my question is whats the best thing to take, flax or fish oil? and is it better to take the oil than the capsule form? I appreciate any advice, 163 pages is just too much to go through and I seem to read a lot of contradicting opinions on the matter. And does anyone know why I got a rash when I took the fish oil capsules?
HEY people i was just wondering..
I am going to go get my fish oil tablets tomorrow from vitamin world and i was hoping that along with less oil production does it also help get rid of dry skin patches as well??? Because i have quite a few of those and i reallllly hate them so please Get Back to Me 
Im going to stop taking Fish oil capsules because in a few days time my acne is worse then it has ever been and im breaking out in places i have never broken out before i will stick with my ground natural flax seed because that seems to help.but goodbye fish oil..:(
Fish Oil does not break you out period.
You need to use anything AT LEAST a week before you make judgement on it anyways.
Um I started taking Finest natural fish oil 2 weeks ago and have been breaking out in deep cystic acne ever since I dunno why but milk causes a similar reaction so maybe iodine? Im taking Finest naturals which has sardines, anchovies sprat clupea and soy. Ive read some other posts saying fish oil caused cysts. Im going to stop taking it and try another brand but Its unfortunate something that is supposed to help skin is making mine worse 
Because sunflower oil is high in omega 6, so those tablets would be more like the 'omega 6 + 3' tablets you see, rather than just omega 3. I agree that fish oil quality probably matters, but given that this stuff litterally had cooking oil as its 'filler' ingredient, I thought that was a reasonable assumption.
can someone please educate me on why its better to take omega 3,6,9 together as opposed to just omega 3?
i found a supplement from nordic natural sthat has omega 3,6,9 from fish oil and borage oil
does anyone know if thats a good one?
i also read that omega 7's from seabuckthorn oil is also really good for ur skin
i helped start this bubble now im going to bust it.
do NOT take extra omega 3 supplements, they decrease natural killer cells, which are responsible for getting rid of mutated cells that start tumor growth, i can say this from experiance and provide studies to support the claim.
I was an advocate of fish oil some two years back and took it regularly for two years, initially at very high doses.
this was a big mistake, now i have a liver tumor and the suspect at fault was my consumption of fish oil.
2008 May 14. Links
Leukocyte numbers and function in subjects eating n-3 enriched foods: selective depression of natural killer cell levels
INTRODUCTION: While consumption of omega-3 long-chain polyunsaturated fatty acids (n-3 LCPUFA) has been recommended for those at risk of inflammatory disease such as rheumatoid arthritis, the mechanism of their anti-inflammatory effect remains to be clearly defined, particularly in relation to the dose and type of n-3 LCPUFA. The objective of this study was to determine whether varying the levels of n-3 LCPUFA in erythrocyte membrane lipids, following dietary supplementation, is associated with altered numbers and function of circulating leukocytes conducive to protection against inflammation. METHODS: In a double-blind and placebo-controlled study, 44 healthy subjects aged 23 to 63 years consumed either standard or n-3 LCPUFA-enriched versions of typical processed foods, the latter allowing a target daily consumption of 1 gram n-3 LCPUFA. After six months, peripheral blood leukocyte and subpopulation proportions and numbers were assessed by flow cytometry. Leukocytes were also examined for lymphoproliferation and cytokine production, neutrophil chemotaxis, chemokinesis, bactericidal, adherence and iodination activity. Erythrocytes were analyzed for fatty-acid content. RESULTS: Erythrocyte n-3 LCPUFA levels were higher and absolute leukocyte and lymphocyte numbers were lower in subjects consuming n-3 enriched foods than in controls. There were no changes in the number of neutrophils, monocytes, T cells (CD3+), T-cell subsets (CD4+, CD8+) and B cells (CD19+). However, natural killer (NK) (CD3-CD16+CD56+) cell numbers were lower in n-3 supplemented subjects than in controls and were inversely related to the amount of eicosapentaenoic acid or docosahexaenoic acid in erythrocytes. No significant correlations were found with respect to lymphocyte lymphoproliferation and production of IFN-gamma and IL-2, but lymphotoxin production was higher with greater n-3 LCPUFA membrane content. Similarly, neutrophil chemotaxis, chemokinesis, bactericidal activity and adherence did not vary with changes in erythrocyte n-3 LCPUFA levels, but the iodination reaction was reduced with higher n-3 LCPUFA content. CONCLUSION: The data show that regular long-term consumption of n-3 enriched foods leads to lower numbers of NK cells and neutrophil iodination activity but higher lymphotoxin production by lymphocytes. These changes are consistent with decreased inflammatory reaction and tissue damage seen in patients with inflammatory disorders receiving n-3 LCPUFA supplementation.
1: J Nutr. 2009 Aug;139(8):1588-94. Epub 2009 Jun 23. Links
Fish oil-fed mice have impaired resistance to influenza infection.Schwerbrock NM, Karlsson EA, Shi Q, Sheridan PA, Beck MA.
Department of Nutrition, The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, Chapel Hill, NC 27599, USA.
Dietary fish oils, rich in (n-3) PUFA, including eicosapentaenoic acid and docosahexaenoic acid, have been shown to have antiinflammatory properties. Although the antiinflammatory properties of fish oil may be beneficial during a chronic inflammatory illness, the same antiinflammatory properties can suppress the inflammatory responses necessary to combat acute viral infection. Given that (n-3) fatty acid-rich fish oil supplementation is on the rise and with the increasing threat of an influenza pandemic, we tested the effect of fish oil feeding for 2 wk on the immune response to influenza virus infection. Male C57BL/6 mice fed either a menhaden fish oil/corn oil diet (4 g fish oil:1 g corn oil, wt:wt at 5 g/100 g diet) or a control corn oil diet were infected with influenza A/PuertoRico/8/34 and analyzed for lung pathology and immune function. Although fish oil-fed mice had lower lung inflammation compared with controls, fish oil feeding also resulted in a 40% higher mortality rate, a 70% higher lung viral load at d 7 post infection, and a prolonged recovery period following infection. Although splenic natural killer (NK) cell activity was suppressed in fish oil-fed mice, lung NK activity was not affected. Additionally, lungs of infected fish oil-fed mice had significantly fewer CD8+ T cells and decreased mRNA expression of macrophage inflammatory protein-1-alpha, tumor necrosis factor-alpha, and interleukin-6. These results suggest that the antiinflammatory properties of fish oil feeding can alter the immune response to influenza infection, resulting in increased morbidity and mortality.
i helped start this bubble now im going to bust it.do NOT take extra omega 3 supplements, they decrease natural killer cells, which are responsible for getting rid of mutated cells that start tumor growth, i can say this from experiance and provide studies to support the claim.
I was an advocate of fish oil some two years back and took it regularly for two years, initially at very high doses.
this was a big mistake, now i have a liver tumor and the suspect at fault was my consumption of fish oil.
Unless you really were taking some serious mega doses for a prolonged period I'd say it's unlikely that the fish oil had to do with the cause of your liver tumor. Omega 3 supplements and fish oil are among the top supplements taken by people worldwide so if it had any kind of real drastic tumor causing effect a lot more people taking fish oil would be getting tumors.
It's important to remember though to keep your Omega 3 levels proportional with your Omega 6 and 9. If you were taking so much Omega 3 that it way exceeded your Omega 6 intake then possibly such an increase in the anti-inflammatory property may have adverse effects. Most people eating a Westernized diet however are severely deficient in Omega 3 consumption so if you keep your intake balanced and your not taking like 4 or 5 tablespoons of fish oil a day I don't think there's much cause for concern. Because if you let your Omega 6 ratio get out of balance then the breeding ground for inflammation will just present new problems.
The greater majority of people out there don't take any Omega 3 supplements at all while eating mostly a high Omega 6 contained diet and yet they don't appear to have any greater immunity to the influenza and other viruses than me because it's been several years since the last time I had any kind of flu or even much of a cold. I'm around others in my family that seem to catch every bug that goes around but my immune system seems to of gotten fairly strong so I'm usually the last person in my family to ever catch anything. So obviously simply taking omega 3 supplements doesn't seem to be putting me more at risk of a viral infection since I'm the only one in my family that takes fish oil and eats a higher Omega 3 diet.
i helped start this bubble now im going to bust it.do NOT take extra omega 3 supplements, they decrease natural killer cells, which are responsible for getting rid of mutated cells that start tumor growth, i can say this from experiance and provide studies to support the claim.
I was an advocate of fish oil some two years back and took it regularly for two years, initially at very high doses.
this was a big mistake, now i have a liver tumor and the suspect at fault was my consumption of fish oil.
Unless you really were taking some serious mega doses for a prolonged period I'd say it's unlikely that the fish oil had to do with the cause of your liver tumor. Omega 3 supplements and fish oil are among the top supplements taken by people worldwide so if it had any kind of real drastic tumor causing effect a lot more people taking fish oil would be getting tumors.
It's important to remember though to keep your Omega 3 levels proportional with your Omega 6 and 9. If you were taking so much Omega 3 that it way exceeded your Omega 6 intake then possibly such an increase in the anti-inflammatory property may have adverse effects. Most people eating a Westernized diet however are severely deficient in Omega 3 consumption so if you keep your intake balanced and your not taking like 4 or 5 tablespoons of fish oil a day I don't think there's much cause for concern. Because if you let your Omega 6 ratio get out of balance then the breeding ground for inflammation will just present new problems.
The greater majority of people out there don't take any Omega 3 supplements at all while eating mostly a high Omega 6 contained diet and yet they don't appear to have any greater immunity to the influenza and other viruses than me because it's been several years since the last time I had any kind of flu or even much of a cold. I'm around others in my family that seem to catch every bug that goes around but my immune system seems to of gotten fairly strong so I'm usually the last person in my family to ever catch anything. So obviously simply taking omega 3 supplements doesn't seem to be putting me more at risk of a viral infection since I'm the only one in my family that takes fish oil and eats a higher Omega 3 diet.
I also wonder (not knowing much about this stuff), if natural killer cells could be reduced as not as many are actually needed (due to benefits of o3). It's also hard to figure out the link with mice as well, as we wouldn't be bothering with o3 supplements if we all had decent diets for a while. People are only taking supplements as we live just rubbish lives with regards to our natural surroundings (diet, health, time outside etc). This is why I find the whole area so mindboggling, and actually dangerous. Feels like you can't accept anything anyone says :). In the end I just try and eat healthy all round now as its too complex, and top up o3 if I haven't had any fish for a while.
i helped start this bubble now im going to bust it.do NOT take extra omega 3 supplements, they decrease natural killer cells, which are responsible for getting rid of mutated cells that start tumor growth, i can say this from experiance and provide studies to support the claim.
I was an advocate of fish oil some two years back and took it regularly for two years, initially at very high doses.
this was a big mistake, now i have a liver tumor and the suspect at fault was my consumption of fish oil.
Unless you really were taking some serious mega doses for a prolonged period I'd say it's unlikely that the fish oil had to do with the cause of your liver tumor. Omega 3 supplements and fish oil are among the top supplements taken by people worldwide so if it had any kind of real drastic tumor causing effect a lot more people taking fish oil would be getting tumors.
It's important to remember though to keep your Omega 3 levels proportional with your Omega 6 and 9. If you were taking so much Omega 3 that it way exceeded your Omega 6 intake then possibly such an increase in the anti-inflammatory property may have adverse effects. Most people eating a Westernized diet however are severely deficient in Omega 3 consumption so if you keep your intake balanced and your not taking like 4 or 5 tablespoons of fish oil a day I don't think there's much cause for concern. Because if you let your Omega 6 ratio get out of balance then the breeding ground for inflammation will just present new problems.
The greater majority of people out there don't take any Omega 3 supplements at all while eating mostly a high Omega 6 contained diet and yet they don't appear to have any greater immunity to the influenza and other viruses than me because it's been several years since the last time I had any kind of flu or even much of a cold. I'm around others in my family that seem to catch every bug that goes around but my immune system seems to of gotten fairly strong so I'm usually the last person in my family to ever catch anything. So obviously simply taking omega 3 supplements doesn't seem to be putting me more at risk of a viral infection since I'm the only one in my family that takes fish oil and eats a higher Omega 3 diet.
I also wonder (not knowing much about this stuff), if natural killer cells could be reduced as not as many are actually needed (due to benefits of o3). It's also hard to figure out the link with mice as well, as we wouldn't be bothering with o3 supplements if we all had decent diets for a while. People are only taking supplements as we live just rubbish lives with regards to our natural surroundings (diet, health, time outside etc). This is why I find the whole area so mindboggling, and actually dangerous. Feels like you can't accept anything anyone says :). In the end I just try and eat healthy all round now as its too complex, and top up o3 if I haven't had any fish for a while.
our bodies make epa and dha out of ala, which is obtainable from many foods. while the benefits of fish oil have to do with the existence of epa and dha that have been preformed independant of the body, there fore they suggest that this is beneficial to the body, but i believe their may be a reason why these substances are regulated by the body, because it knows how much you need. another thing with inflammation and manipulating its response, you are better off finding and dealing with the cause of inflammation in the first place, and that may be bacteria and the injurious by products that it makes to clog pores and mess up the functioning of the sebaceous gland.
i believe if you want to manipulate your bodys inflammatory response, just consume less omega 6, but do not take fish oil.
in fact i now belive most animal food products to be unnecessary as plants have fiber which is need to keep up the populations of bacteria in the intestine, among thousands of other things for health. Animal protein and food products plae in comparison to plant foods.
i helped start this bubble now im going to bust it.do NOT take extra omega 3 supplements, they decrease natural killer cells, which are responsible for getting rid of mutated cells that start tumor growth, i can say this from experiance and provide studies to support the claim.
I was an advocate of fish oil some two years back and took it regularly for two years, initially at very high doses.
this was a big mistake, now i have a liver tumor and the suspect at fault was my consumption of fish oil.
Unless you really were taking some serious mega doses for a prolonged period I'd say it's unlikely that the fish oil had to do with the cause of your liver tumor. Omega 3 supplements and fish oil are among the top supplements taken by people worldwide so if it had any kind of real drastic tumor causing effect a lot more people taking fish oil would be getting tumors.
It's important to remember though to keep your Omega 3 levels proportional with your Omega 6 and 9. If you were taking so much Omega 3 that it way exceeded your Omega 6 intake then possibly such an increase in the anti-inflammatory property may have adverse effects. Most people eating a Westernized diet however are severely deficient in Omega 3 consumption so if you keep your intake balanced and your not taking like 4 or 5 tablespoons of fish oil a day I don't think there's much cause for concern. Because if you let your Omega 6 ratio get out of balance then the breeding ground for inflammation will just present new problems.
The greater majority of people out there don't take any Omega 3 supplements at all while eating mostly a high Omega 6 contained diet and yet they don't appear to have any greater immunity to the influenza and other viruses than me because it's been several years since the last time I had any kind of flu or even much of a cold. I'm around others in my family that seem to catch every bug that goes around but my immune system seems to of gotten fairly strong so I'm usually the last person in my family to ever catch anything. So obviously simply taking omega 3 supplements doesn't seem to be putting me more at risk of a viral infection since I'm the only one in my family that takes fish oil and eats a higher Omega 3 diet.
I also wonder (not knowing much about this stuff), if natural killer cells could be reduced as not as many are actually needed (due to benefits of o3). It's also hard to figure out the link with mice as well, as we wouldn't be bothering with o3 supplements if we all had decent diets for a while. People are only taking supplements as we live just rubbish lives with regards to our natural surroundings (diet, health, time outside etc). This is why I find the whole area so mindboggling, and actually dangerous. Feels like you can't accept anything anyone says :). In the end I just try and eat healthy all round now as its too complex, and top up o3 if I haven't had any fish for a while.
there were other factors that contributed to the tumors development nop doubt, but fish oil was the main contributer and i have the science that supports it, so as you can see im not making this up. Polyunsaturated acids also go rancid very quickly, and have many oxidants that cause damage to proteins, like dna.
when i started taking fish oil i bought crappy stuff from the supermarket and yes i took alot, i started taking maybe two when i noted benefits, then i upped it quite a bit, then benefits were lost, then i learned about good vs bad fish oil then bought better stuff and after three months of high doses, took a "normal" suggested amount.
ths could have bdefinitly been enough to start the tumor cells, then continuing taking fish oil for the next two years could have kept the tumor growing, in addition to the stress i was already under that suppressed my immune systems ability to eradicate these abnormal cells.
i was also eating a high meat diet with little fruits and grains, so i wasnt getting very many antioxidants to protect me, stress hormones also interfere with melatonin production at night, and melatonin is the supposedly the most potent antioxidant there is, so thats how the stress i was under could have also contributed to this.
If someone takes a normal amount, isnt under massive stress, eats fruits and grains, then perhaps you wont see any problems for maybe 5-10 years, but i suggest you just not take it at all, its unnecessary.
What happens in the supplement world is that a good study comes out toting benefits, then jumps on the bandwagon of fast cash money making capitalistic feeding frenzy, before they even think that there may be any unknown dangers, the marketing of fish oil is somewhat biased, a mixture of bad science and lust for wealth.