which chain stores carry Twin Lab? How much Vit. A should there be?

I've been taking flaxseed oil for a little over a week and I wanted to change to fish oil after a while. Where can I get the Carlson liquid fish oil?(wal-mart? GNC?) I suck at taking pills so no way I can take it in pill form. Sorry if this was already answered in previous posts...I don't have the time to look though 100+ pages. Thanks

I've been taking flaxseed oil for a little over a week and I wanted to change to fish oil after a while. Where can I get the Carlson liquid fish oil?(wal-mart? GNC?) I suck at taking pills so no way I can take it in pill forum. Sorry if this was already answered in previous posts...I don't have the time to look though 100+ pages. Thanks

Go to whole foods and pick up twin labs cod liver oil, the retinol is important :). Carlson, and twin labs can be found at whole foods, or vitamin shoppe.

sorry ive been reading this thread for about an hour but now i have to do some homework before class, i just have some questions..

i want to try CLO..

http://www.vitacost.com/Twinlab-Norwegian-...il-Cherry-12-oz

is this the one that everyone recommends?

also is it just 3 teaspoons a day, lets say at breakfast, lunch, and dinner?

anything else that i need to take with it? i think im just gonna try it alone at first to see how it works..

ive been on my own regimen based on Dans which has been great. i wanted to try this + a healthier lifestyle to see if i can get 100% clear.

thanks for the help

That is exactly it. 2, or 3, teaspoons is all you need. It will cover your omega 3, retinol, and vitamin D necessities for the day. Also be sure to take vitamin C daily as it's very important, zinc, and chromium 🙂

which chain stores carry Twin Lab? How much Vit. A should there be?

twin labs is a brand of cod liver oil 🙂 vitamin shoppe, or whole foods carries them. Or you can opt out for the gnc brand. Just be sure it does not say emulsified in it. If it's all foggy inside, then that is the emulsified version and we do not want that. It will also say on the bottle. But get the one that is regular cherry flavored or mint 🙂

The vitamin a concentration is in perfect ratio with the omega 3. So that two teaspoons will cover our daily needs for both perfectly. 🙂

Romeo, I coached my cousins friend who has acne to get on CLO last month around the time I started. He was on B5 for four months and that stopped most of his acne, add in the CLO he is CLEAR!

Does cod liver taste decent? I saw they had mint and cherry also and was just wondering how the plain tastes versus the flavored ones.

I'm def gonna start buying cod liver since I wanted something to get my vitamin A from. Is vitamin D safe? What I mean by that is I was on a site earlier and read that cod liver is good to use if you don't get enough sun or during the winter months. It said about using fish oil during the summer or when ever you get a lot of sun and then switching to cod liver during the winter. I haven't really been going out in the sun lately like I used to pretty much all my life due to the obsession I now have with my fun little friend named acne but I was just curious if a lot of vitamin D could have a neg affect.

Romeo, I coached my cousins friend who has acne to get on CLO last month around the time I started. He was on B5 for four months and that stopped most of his acne, add in the CLO he is CLEAR!

That is awesome! :dance: Just make sure he is careful on the b5 (and switch to a b complex if possible), also monitor that he gets enough vit C too, super important! If he stays clear on that then he won't have to keep b5 =) Because he has enough in his system now and the b complex will keep it at good levels as well as ensure the other B's are there to work synergetically. if it does not work, worse comes to worse he can do that again =)

Does cod liver taste decent? I saw they had mint and cherry also and was just wondering how the plain tastes versus the flavored ones.

I'm def gonna start buying cod liver since I wanted something to get my vitamin A from. Is vitamin D safe? What I mean by that is I was on a site earlier and read that cod liver is good to use if you don't get enough sun or during the winter months. It said about using fish oil during the summer or when ever you get a lot of sun and then switching to cod liver during the winter. I haven't really been going out in the sun lately like I used to pretty much all my life due to the obsession I now have with my fun little friend named acne but I was just curious if a lot of vitamin D could have a neg affect.

Yup! It tastes like nothing. Even vegetable oils taste worse. Cod liver oil tastes like if water was in syrup form, with a hint of cherry. Since it's so fresh, it has no taste 🙂 Kind of like how fresh fish should not smell.

You're safe on the vitamin D 🙂 We don't take too much of it. If you would like, you could take 1 teaspoon of cod liver oil, and then 1 teaspoon of regular fish oil. That way it will satisfy your vit A and D requirements, and also your omega 3 needs (2 to 3 grams).

Hope that helps!

Thanks for the help. I think it's funny that almost everything I'm doing for my acne now has come from one of your posts(baby brush, mint julep masque which you suggested to me, omega 3s, and zinc). Keep em coming.

Thanks for the help. I think it's funny that almost everything I'm doing for my acne now has come from one of your posts(baby brush, mint julep masque which you suggested to me, omega 3s, and zinc). Keep em coming. 😆

Haha that is awesome, I hope it is paying off! Also don't forget the vitamin C in case you are not taking it, and Chromium 🙂 If you want to know more about them let me know, I can link you. There's undeniable information concerning those vitamins/minerals in relation to acne prevention 🙂

If you could show me some links that would be great. I actually had plans of taking chromium and getting more vitamin C. I get some vitamin C now since I mix Simply Orange juice with my flaxseed oil so it doesn't taste as weird even though all the oil just sits on top of the juice. Even though Simply Orange juice is one of the better orange juice drinks I've came across I think it still have sugar added which is something I've been cutting out.

If you could show me some links that would be great. I actually had plans of taking chromium and getting more vitamin C. I get some vitamin C now since I mix Simply Orange juice with my flaxseed oil so it doesn't taste as weird even though all the oil just sits on top of the juice. Even though Simply Orange juice is one of the better orange juice drinks I've came across I think it still have sugar added which is something I've been cutting out.

Here is the information on vitamin C

http://www.acne.org/messageboard/index.php...&hl=vitamin

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=6ICNDVT6

I uploaded the information about SBHG, Insulin, Acne, and Chromium connection. It's in a word document that I put all the information in with the best points bolded, with links to their source. You can direct download it from there.

Have fun 🙂

Thanks for the document romeo

Thanks for the document romeo

No problem! Also here's dan's thread about when he used Zinc and Chromium

http://www.acne.org/messageboard/index.php...amp;hl=chromium

"But with the zinc/chromium and the regimen I have perfect skin, like totally perfect day after day. "

He had pretty good results as noted. It may be coincidence, but the point is that chromium is vital 🙂

Good luck!

So which Cod fish liver oil brand is higher quality GNC or Twin lab? also if I order Twin lab online do I have to worry about the fish oil going bad?

So which Cod fish liver oil brand is higher quality GNC or Twin lab? also if I order Twin lab online do I have to worry about the fish oil going bad?

They are both very good brands. If you can get twin labs that would be good, or gnc, whichever is easiest for you. The twin labs though is nitrogen sealed so chances are that may be the best, but generally speaking since the bottle will be done in about a month it shouldn't matter too much 🙂 So it will be up to you. Price wise, quality, ratio of A:D:Omega3 is almost identical as well.

Since they usually ship products to their stores, they are made with that in mind as well I assume, since it has to stay on the shelf as well. So if they ship to you, it should be fine.

thanks for the info NdnRomeo! also I am currently on Accutane and I only have one month left to go. However I am interested in starting a healthier lifestyle/regimen after I finish for maintenence. How long before I can start taking this stuff? I know fish oil has a lot of vitamin A in it. Should I wait a month post Accutane? or more or less? thank you!

NdnRomeo any words from TwinLab?

Question, does anyone take Broccoli pills as well?

thanks for the info NdnRomeo! also I am currently on Accutane and I only have one month left to go. However I am interested in starting a healthier lifestyle/regimen after I finish for maintenence. How long before I can start taking this stuff? I know fish oil has a lot of vitamin A in it. Should I wait a month post Accutane? or more or less? thank you!

I think about a month sounds like a good time to wait. You can take fish oil right now though, just no cod liver oil. Omega 3 is fine, just the vitamin A is not good with accutane.

NdnRomeo any words from TwinLab?

Question, does anyone take Broccoli pills as well?

Yes, I posted it about a couple of weeks ago I believe. Basically it's fine and they use really thorough methods for ensuring there are no PCB's or anything else in there that can cause harm 🙂

Okay so i bought my CLO, chromium(200mcg), and zinc(50mg) supplements today. I actually got this...

http://www.vitacost.com/Twinlab-Emulsified...iver-Oil-Orange

Emulsified Cod Liver Oil. Its the same thing right? just made easier to swallow?

Anyways starting today its BP regimen(been on this for 2 years), exercise, low sugar diet, CLO+zinc+chromium. sound good? I have confidence in this, ill update everyone in a month... =)

romeo, i made another thread about this but it isn't really getting any replies. i read your article on chromium and bought some, but it was in the picolinate form. (which dan used). There's a lot of concern that this poses a cancer risk- do you think it would be better to switch to the polynicotinate form? or the gtf form?

Also, I didn't really see where the change in popularity from regular fish oil to cod liver oil started in this thread. I followed your original advice and have been using the member's mark brand (about 8-9 a day) for a month, but it doesn't seem to be doing much! which is why I'm starting on chromium and vitamin c.

I was completely clear for around 6 months about a year ago (im only 16, so i haven't had any problems for long), during which time i had a ridiculously high GI diet. (almost all wheat/rice based, about 60 grams added sugar a day). Would it be logical to assume that this period depleted my chromium? and that taking it again for some time would help? I remember for about a month before I was clear, I took chromium (only 120mcg though) for about a month. Would it be safe to say this was what caused my 6 months of clear skin? All conjuncture, i have no idea if this is scientifically correct which is why i ask. Thanks!

Okay so i bought my CLO, chromium(200mcg), and zinc(50mg) supplements today. I actually got this...

http://www.vitacost.com/Twinlab-Emulsified...iver-Oil-Orange

Emulsified Cod Liver Oil. Its the same thing right? just made easier to swallow?

Anyways starting today its BP regimen(been on this for 2 years), exercise, low sugar diet, CLO+zinc+chromium. sound good? I have confidence in this, ill update everyone in a month... =)

Ah Noo. I have been saying to avoid emulsified forms a lot.

Like for example right below your post here:

twin labs is a brand of cod liver oil smile.gif vitamin shoppe, or whole foods carries them. Or you can opt out for the gnc brand. Just be sure it does not say emulsified in it. If it's all foggy inside, then that is the emulsified version and we do not want that. It will also say on the bottle. But get the one that is regular cherry flavored or mint smile.gif

The vitamin a concentration is in perfect ratio with the omega 3. So that two teaspoons will cover our daily needs for both perfectly. smile.gif

http://www.acne.org/messageboard/index.php...t&p=2045218

Here is why:

The remarkable finding was that vitamin A taken in emulsified, water-miscible (mixable in water) and solid form was

ten

times more toxic than vitamin A taken in oil-based preparations

for adults and 20,000 IU per day for children of oil-based preparation and 40,000 IU per day for adults and 4,000 IU per

day for children of water-miscible, emulsified and solid preparations.

http://www.greenpasture.org/content/CodLiverOilwetzel.pdf

Talks abouts getting to toxicity. So if you do have emulsified forms, only use one teaspoon of that (considering it has about 5,000 I.U per teaspoon) max per day. If you need more omega 3, buy liquid fish oil to supplement with it :).

One last thing, since you bought chromium, you can take it twice a day if you wish because I am on 500 mg and it's safe as well.

Would it be a safe guess that the fish oil treatments are more effective for guys? I mean, I'm going to try it (of course) but I don't want to get my hopes up too much. Or maybe it'll just be more of a turnaround for guys... Just wondering because of the initial posts about testosterone and androgens. I definitely fit all of the other qualifications concerning blocked follicles and oil!

romeo, i made another thread about this but it isn't really getting any replies. i read your article on chromium and bought some, but it was in the picolinate form. (which dan used). There's a lot of concern that this poses a cancer risk- do you think it would be better to switch to the polynicotinate form? or the gtf form?

I too was concerned about that on my quest on researching about chromium. But I found that picolinate was actually very safe and that there were many contradicting reviews. Some do say it's associated with that but I have found that it's generally only at very very high doses, so you are fine. Also picolinate is the most widely used form. I have also seen studies that should it's in fact the better absorbed form over the other one. Though you are right, it is one of the most contradicting topics, we could go on forever finding more about it, but it should do the trick 🙂

Also, I didn't really see where the change in popularity from regular fish oil to cod liver oil started in this thread. I followed your original advice and have been using the member's mark brand (about 8-9 a day) for a month, but it doesn't seem to be doing much! which is why I'm starting on chromium and vitamin c.

It happened about a few pages back. Also remember that it may not only be an omega 3 deficiency. A good start to see where you may be going wrong is sitting down and write down what you generally eat everyday. Break it down to essential fats/vitamins/minerals. See what you do not get and all the items you do not get enough of. Some keys are vitamin C/Zinc/Omega 3/vitamin A/Chromium/vitamin E. Deficiencies in these have all been associated to acne in direct ways, either by a direct regulation of your sebaceous glands and keratin production, or by a lack of control over your hormones during times when you need it (our age indefinitely). Also remember there's no gaurantee that even after all this we won't improve, it could be something completely different, like food allergies, intolerances, parasitic activity, the list goes on forever sadly 🙁 Or maybe our genetic inheritance is so strong that nothing can overcome it (I hope that is not the case!) Just some food for thought 🙂

I was completely clear for around 6 months about a year ago (im only 16, so i haven't had any problems for long), during which time i had a ridiculously high GI diet. (almost all wheat/rice based, about 60 grams added sugar a day). Would it be logical to assume that this period depleted my chromium? and that taking it again for some time would help? I remember for about a month before I was clear, I took chromium (only 120mcg though) for about a month. Would it be safe to say this was what caused my 6 months of clear skin? All conjuncture, i have no idea if this is scientifically correct which is why i ask. Thanks!

Hm you say that you were clear around the time of having a high GI diet, and then broke out later? Also, did you have acne before 16, or was there a period you were completely clear then broke out again? Tell me more and I can try evaluating. Also remember there are so many other things involved during those times that you may not even remember 🙂 This acne thing sucks

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Would it be a safe guess that the fish oil treatments are more effective for guys? I mean, I'm going to try it (of course) but I don't want to get my hopes up too much. Or maybe it'll just be more of a turnaround for guys... Just wondering because of the initial posts about testosterone and androgens. I definitely fit all of the other qualifications concerning blocked follicles and oil!

Actually quite the contrary, I've seen every response to this thread and other fish oil threads and have found most complete success to come from women oddly. I think across the board it helps to balance hormones well. But don't rely on it solely, there are many other important nutrients that alleviate acne to a huge degree too 🙂

And also remember, estrogen is a metabolite of tesosterone as well as dht

Here's a good chart showing the break down

Also, it's known that most acne cases are estrogen receptor positive, so that is probably why I also see acne cases being alleviated by fish oil being women mostly. Also the other thing is I've seen more guys than girls post in here as well so perhaps the perception that it helps guys more may weigh slightly on that observation.

I hope that helps and gives further insight. Let me know if you have any other questions in specific 🙂

Hi, thanks for the reply.

Well yeah, I started breaking out around age 13. definitely mild by most people's standards here, but still painful and unsightly. just pustules/pastules. This continued until age 15. (during this time, i ate like a little kid which means probably breaking every single "rule" that people follow on this forum). I also broke out on my back at this time, though I partially attribute this to lots of scratching/wrestling.

Around exactly a year ago, when I was 15 I made some changes. Less calories, cut dairy out (I used to eat lots of it), cut meat out, cut fried/fast food out. I took a multivitamin (with 120mcg chromium) for one month. But I STILL ate tons and tons of refined carbs, sugars, etc. I basically lived off white rice, rice crackers, sugary cereals, waffles, granola, french toast, stuff like that. (60 grams added sugar a day). No fruits, veggies.

I also made a huge effort not to touch my face. I did not take any supplements after that one month. From the beginning of last september until the beginning of this april (7 months) I was completely clear. I think I had ONE pimple the entire time.

Around april of this year I began incorporating new things into my diet, feeling confident nothing would break me out. the condition of my skin has slowly gotten worse from then until now. (well actually, from april until july I had big painful pastules on my ONLY my forehead. in july, i stopped getting these (well, not as many/as big) but other parts of my face started breaking out too. The new things i put in my diet were BETTER than the old things though- legumes instead of refined carbs, protein powder instead of waffles, more whole grains instead of refined, etc.

One month ago I broke out pretty bad and got extremely frustrated with how IMPROVING my diet coincided with my skin getting WORSE. So after reading this thread/other threads I changed to a low GI/GL diet with lots of veggies, (still vegan). started taking the 8-9 fish oil caps. Now I'm getting frustrated that its still worse, so on top of all that I'm looking into chromium

This is ridiculous because nothing matches up to how it should. the only thing i can think of is that stress triggered the break out, or that it was the chromium or something else I took for that one month that cleared me for 7 months. Both seem unrealistic.

edit: or perhaps it's the high protein that's doing it? screwing with keratinization?

Thanks NdnRomeo for the quick response!

Yeah, I suppose it was the number of males responding to this post that weighed in on my guess that guys had better results with the fish oil capsules.

I'm picking up my first supply during the next grocery trip .

Now if I could just convince myself to change my overall diet too.... baby steps.