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(@acnepwned)

Posted : 09/08/2007 6:13 pm

The Twinlabs looks fine to me, I get mine at Wild Oats Market. But I'll switch after this bottle if I have too, cause carlsons was two inches over, haha. This CLO produces amazing results. Anyways, I have figured out that if I do stay strict, I will probably clear up 100% or super close. Which is good enough for me. Acne doesn't scar me anymore and marks go away in a couple weeks to a month, but it is not really bad anymore thanks to CLO, I can live with this and still party a bit. NDN, I think we have a winnerrrrrrr!

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(@listener)

Posted : 09/09/2007 5:40 am

If i recall correctly, Ndn, you mentioned somewhere that the levels of retinol in CLO aren't actually as dangerous as people would lead us to believe.

 

What would you say to 20,000 IU per day?

 

What about 13,300 IU per day?

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(@ndnromeo)

Posted : 09/09/2007 8:46 am

If i recall correctly, Ndn, you mentioned somewhere that the levels of retinol in CLO aren't actually as dangerous as people would lead us to believe.

What would you say to 20,000 IU per day?

What about 13,300 IU per day?

Correct, synthetic forms are 10x more toxic, so are emulsified forms. Since it is in it's natural form, it's pretty safe, also what makes it more safer is vitamin D protecting it from toxicity. But it is still vitamin A so I wouldn't want to mess around going over 3 teaspoons, which is about 15,000 i.u. It will give you 6 times more retinol than you will need 🙂

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(@aroused-guy)

Posted : 09/09/2007 3:43 pm

I went to Walgreen's and bought Fish Oil, it's called Fish Oil Concentrate is that okay?

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(@ndnromeo)

Posted : 09/09/2007 3:49 pm

I went to Walgreen's and bought Fish Oil, it's called Fish Oil Concentrate is that okay?

How come you didn't get cod liver oil? It actually works out just as cheap too 🙂

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(@aroused-guy)

Posted : 09/09/2007 3:53 pm

Step 12.

 

Lol...

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(@ndnromeo)

Posted : 09/09/2007 4:03 pm

Step 12.

Lol...

http://www.acne.org/messageboard/index.php...t&p=2024221

Hope that explains it.

Also take a look at the last few pages. And if you decide to get it, be sure to tell us beforehand so you won't make a mistake =)

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(@deantonio)

Posted : 09/10/2007 3:13 pm

when should I take this?

 

4.5 grams all at once or 1.5 grams 3 times daily

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(@ndnromeo)

Posted : 09/10/2007 6:13 pm

when should I take this?

4.5 grams all at once or 1.5 grams 3 times daily

Split up over the course of the day... generally a gram at a time per intake. 3 grams a day should be fine honestly.

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(@rockets)

Posted : 09/11/2007 10:26 pm

Is it ok to take Fish oil with accutane?

 

Can I try fish oil after im done with my course?

 

im really curious about fish oil

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(@ndnromeo)

Posted : 09/11/2007 10:42 pm

Is it ok to take Fish oil with accutane?

Can I try fish oil after im done with my course?

im really curious about fish oil

Ask your doctor to make sure or ask in the accutane section 🙂 Because I do not want to misguide you... but as long as it's not cod liver oil because I know you can't take vitamin A on accutane as it's dangerous, so regular fish oil. But remember, ask your doctor or ask in the accutane section 🙂

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(@livesinabox)

Posted : 09/12/2007 2:26 pm

So i got upto cod liver oil 3 times a day, and now i have blurred vision (like i can see, but it's like watching it on a really fuzzy old tv) and i've got a wicked headache! (on the 2nd day of 3x a day) Well i can't say that it's definitely that but it's mighty suspicious! Surely it takes longer than 50 minutes to absorb? Maybe it was build up from an earlier dose. I haven't changed anything else, although i have added MSM to my new simpler supplement list in the last couple of days. If this blurred vision is actually caused by an overdose it's the first scare i've had from any supplement so far. I'll let you know if theres any improvement tomorrow. For now i'm drinking alcohol in the hope to stop any more being absorbed (hoping to help blurred vision with alcohol - that must be a first!).

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(@ndnromeo)

Posted : 09/12/2007 3:03 pm

So i got upto cod liver oil 3 times a day, and now i have blurred vision (like i can see, but it's like watching it on a really fuzzy old tv) and i've got a wicked headache! (on the 2nd day of 3x a day) Well i can't say that it's definitely that but it's mighty suspicious! Surely it takes longer than 50 minutes to absorb? Maybe it was build up from an earlier dose. I haven't changed anything else, although i have added MSM to my new simpler supplement list in the last couple of days. If this blurred vision is actually caused by an overdose it's the first scare i've had from any supplement so far. I'll let you know if theres any improvement tomorrow. For now i'm drinking alcohol in the hope to stop any more being absorbed (hoping to help blurred vision with alcohol - that must be a first!).

You should lower your dose then, a headache is another sign. Take 1 teaspoon a day. Also, you are taking teaspoons, not tablespoons correct?

And also you said you are drinking alcohol, they don't seem good together...

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(@self-conscious)

Posted : 09/12/2007 9:10 pm

I'm taking three and still feeling fine. :) The cod liver is a little easier to put down than 16+ capsules a day, but I need to get some sort of nozzle to pour that stuff. I have one of those little cups you recommended, but it's all over the cap and bottle. :lol: Also, it doesn't really taste bad at all. :)

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(@ndnromeo)

Posted : 09/13/2007 1:55 am

Got an e-mail from twin labs a few days back, forgot to post. Here it is :)

 

Thank you for your inquiry. Twinlab fish oils are molecularly

distilled. This is the most widely used method in the supplement

industry for removing PCBs and heavy metals. Every lab test has an

analytical instrument limitation called a detection limit. The

detection limit is an indication of the quality of testing. The lower

the detection limit, the better the quality of testing. For example, in

the case of mercury, our specification detection limit is 0.1 ppm (parts

per million). This means that no mercury is present using laboratory

instruments that are capable of detecting mercury contamination to 0.1

ppm. The same is true for lead, cadmium and arsenic. Detection limit

for PCBs, in our products, is 90 ppb (parts per billion). Detection

limits this low are considered PCB free and heavy metal free.

Good health to you!

Consumer Affairs

 

So yup, we're safe :)

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(@livesinabox)

Posted : 09/13/2007 3:58 am

You should lower your dose then, a headache is another sign. Take 1 teaspoon a day. Also, you are taking teaspoons, not tablespoons correct?

And also you said you are drinking alcohol, they don't seem good together...

Yep, i'll give it a miss today - and then start back on one, then move upto two and see how that goes. And yeah it's teaspoons!

I only drank the alcohol after i started going blind - i'm not sure if it's a good thing or not, but i remember it helps inhibit vitamin A & D absorption.

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(@doppleganger)

Posted : 09/13/2007 7:08 pm

So, what's new as of late everyone? I've been out of the Fish Oil loop for pretty much the whole summer. My two recent derm visits have been inconclusive as far as asking what his two cents on Fish Oil are (of course he's gonna speak against it) and he was a money-grubbing bastard as well. $60 co-pay for two vists......nothing resolved, not even a peace of mind.

As far as my Fish Oil usage, I haven't gone above 2 grams a day because after months of usage I honestly have given up on superdosing because I've seen not much results against my oil. Thankfully luck has been on my side and my acne has been mild with more old marks than actual pimples, but my oil is still a nuisance and requires me to whisk away to a bathroom every day to blot off...........and I'm a guy!

Let me know as I'm out of the loop, later!

Start on page 128, on august 28th, most of us switched to cod liver oil as we learned more about it. It's done quite a few good things already so check it out. We learned more about it as opposed to previous beliefs with the whole vitamin A scare, Also due to the retinol content :), but check it out and let me know if you have any questions.

 

Wow, that is quite a big change, especially after dissecting (figuratively) fish oil for so long....to no avail in the end apparently. I'm on the fence on jumping ship to CLO to tell you the truth. I'm not sure if it's worth investing time and money on after I've done so with fish oil for the last couple of months, with little impact on my oil production. Right now my main problems are the aforementioned moderate oil production, my mild facial acne (lots of acne marks and rough/dry looking skin though) and moderate acne on my back and upper arms. My two visits to the derm this past summer have yielded nothing except prescriptions for stuff that's WAY out of my price range which I don't know if it'll even work or not.

I had meant to mention in my last post that a couple of weeks ago something occurred when I took my GNC Mega Men multivitamin and fish oil caplets back to back. I had just finished eating quite a bit of chinese food and first took my multi with some water, and then 2 fish oil (GNC, 300mg each) after a couple of drinks (of water). I don't know if I had been doing wrong by taking both back-to-back and not spacing them out for at least a couple of minutes, or if they didn't vibe with the Chinese food, but I got a BAD stomach ache and was rendered useless for about an hour as I came close to vomiting but instead went to the toilet and pinched a loaf (or three). After that I've begun to space my multi (2 a day) and fish oil (2 caplets, 2-3 times a day) doses by about a half-hour to an hour. Like I said, I don't know if it was the food, but is it alright to take multis and fish/cod liver oil not too long after one another? Would one cancel out the effects of the other or override it?

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Posted : 09/14/2007 12:27 am

So, what's new as of late everyone? I've been out of the Fish Oil loop for pretty much the whole summer. My two recent derm visits have been inconclusive as far as asking what his two cents on Fish Oil are (of course he's gonna speak against it) and he was a money-grubbing bastard as well. $60 co-pay for two vists......nothing resolved, not even a peace of mind.

As far as my Fish Oil usage, I haven't gone above 2 grams a day because after months of usage I honestly have given up on superdosing because I've seen not much results against my oil. Thankfully luck has been on my side and my acne has been mild with more old marks than actual pimples, but my oil is still a nuisance and requires me to whisk away to a bathroom every day to blot off...........and I'm a guy!

Let me know as I'm out of the loop, later!

Start on page 128, on august 28th, most of us switched to cod liver oil as we learned more about it. It's done quite a few good things already so check it out. We learned more about it as opposed to previous beliefs with the whole vitamin A scare, Also due to the retinol content :), but check it out and let me know if you have any questions.

 

Wow, that is quite a big change, especially after dissecting (figuratively) fish oil for so long....to no avail in the end apparently. I'm on the fence on jumping ship to CLO to tell you the truth. I'm not sure if it's worth investing time and money on after I've done so with fish oil for the last couple of months, with little impact on my oil production. Right now my main problems are the aforementioned moderate oil production, my mild facial acne (lots of acne marks and rough/dry looking skin though) and moderate acne on my back and upper arms. My two visits to the derm this past summer have yielded nothing except prescriptions for stuff that's WAY out of my price range which I don't know if it'll even work or not.

I had meant to mention in my last post that a couple of weeks ago something occurred when I took my GNC Mega Men multivitamin and fish oil caplets back to back. I had just finished eating quite a bit of chinese food and first took my multi with some water, and then 2 fish oil (GNC, 300mg each) after a couple of drinks (of water). I don't know if I had been doing wrong by taking both back-to-back and not spacing them out for at least a couple of minutes, or if they didn't vibe with the Chinese food, but I got a BAD stomach ache and was rendered useless for about an hour as I came close to vomiting but instead went to the toilet and pinched a loaf (or three). After that I've begun to space my multi (2 a day) and fish oil (2 caplets, 2-3 times a day) doses by about a half-hour to an hour. Like I said, I don't know if it was the food, but is it alright to take multis and fish/cod liver oil not too long after one another? Would one cancel out the effects of the other or override it?

 

Yes, derm visits are quite pricey. I feel the same pain you do. Especially when medication can become nauseating and annoying themselves. I was shocked at the difference between cod and regular fish. All because of the the retinol content as you've read. I guess the only thing is to try or wait. But granted, fish, cod, or any omega 3 is not an acne end all and we have many other avenues to explore, but omega 3 and retinol base is pretty important and we can build off of it pretty well :)!

I bet it was the food, the fish oil is a fat so it would be best with the multi. Or perhaps it may be heavy for your stomach, something like that. But to be safe it's good you space it out. Just be sure you take a multi on a full stomach with some fat in it so it can digest and absorb to the best it can =)

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Posted : 09/14/2007 4:32 am

UPDATE:

I know it says new member but I just changed to my new name. Well I been on omega 3 for about 11 weeks now. I'm at 10 grams (20 pills carlson brand) omega 3 for the last three weeks and my skin is improving everyday. I did start out slow, i think 1 gram omega 3 then increased my intake per week.

Since starting omega 3, my skin has a different feel, I can't explain it but knowing my skin, I know something has changed. I've been 98% clear for the last 2 weeks and the few pimples that I did get, it's those small whiteheads that would disappear in about one to two days and I've never had those before. I'm sure it's the anti inflammatory effect of fish oil.

I haven't visited the site for about month and it seems that everyone is going to Cod liver oil. Also the omega 3 dose's seem lower too (2.7grams).

I do have a few questions that NdnRomeo or any other member could help me out with.

1. I know 10 grams seems to be a lot of fish oil but I do weight lift and eat 6 times a day so I take in a lot more omega 6 than the average person. A few pages back, I read that the omega 3 to 6 ratio does not matter anymore, is this correct?

2. If it is correct, Should I just take the recommend 3 tsp Cod liver (Twinlab brand) even if I take in more omega 6?

3. I try to get about 45 minutes of direct sunlight without sunblock everyday to get vitamin D. Should I worry about overdosing on vitamin D when taking cod liver?

4. I plan on taking zinc also, how much mg do I take and how many times per day?

Thanks in advance

Also I found some cheap TwinLab Norwegian Cod Liver Oil on Amazon.com

Twinlab Norwegian Cod Liver Oil, Unflavored, 12 Ounces (Pack of 3) for $14.85 [Removed]

TwinLab Norwegian Cod Liver Oil, Cherry, 12 fl oz (Pack of 3) for $17.47 [Removed]

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Posted : 09/14/2007 5:10 pm

I just received my Cod Liver Oil (TwinLab) today and it's too early to tell anything right now (except it tastes gross to me). But I'm willing to take it if it indeed helps with my complexion. Good news... I don't have any difficulty getting 1 teaspoonful out because I just use a 1TSP medicine dropper to take it.

 

EDIT: using a dropper is not such a good idea bc it can contaminate the rest of the oil...

 

 

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Posted : 09/15/2007 10:22 am

omega3man said:
UPDATE:

I know it says new member but I just changed to my new name. Well I been on omega 3 for about 11 weeks now. I'm at 10 grams (20 pills carlson brand) omega 3 for the last three weeks and my skin is improving everyday. I did start out slow, i think 1 gram omega 3 then increased my intake per week.

Since starting omega 3, my skin has a different feel, I can't explain it but knowing my skin, I know something has changed. I've been 98% clear for the last 2 weeks and the few pimples that I did get, it's those small whiteheads that would disappear in about one to two days and I've never had those before. I'm sure it's the anti inflammatory effect of fish oil.

I haven't visited the site for about month and it seems that everyone is going to Cod liver oil. Also the omega 3 dose's seem lower too (2.7grams).

I do have a few questions that NdnRomeo or any other member could help me out with.

1. I know 10 grams seems to be a lot of fish oil but I do weight lift and eat 6 times a day so I take in a lot more omega 6 than the average person. A few pages back, I read that the omega 3 to 6 ratio does not matter anymore, is this correct?

Is it 10 pills (10 grams) or 10 grams as in 10 grams of omega 3? (that would be 30 pills). The ratio does matter, but the difference we found is that the omega 6 in foods needs to be converted to compare to the EPA and DHA in fish oil. So for instance, if you get 10 grams of LA from foods (omega 6), only about .5 grams to 1 gram is AA which is what competes with EPA to balance hormones. That is why even if you get 2.7 grams of omega 3, it is still very plenty. But since you did say you weight lift, it should be just fine.

2. If it is correct, Should I just take the recommend 3 tsp Cod liver (Twinlab brand) even if I take in more omega 6?

Yes, if you want more omega 3, then take it in fish oil form, not cod liver. But 3 tsp's of cod liver is a baseline, then if you want more omega 3, then add regular fish oil liquid on top of it.

3. I try to get about 45 minutes of direct sunlight without sunblock everyday to get vitamin D. Should I worry about overdosing on vitamin D when taking cod liver?

No, you should generally be fine. You won't need 45 minutes of sun, since you already will get enough D now.

4. I plan on taking zinc also, how much mg do I take and how many times per day?

50 mg to 100 mg should be ideal, just don't take anything over 100 mg and don't stay on 100 mg forever, reduce to 50 eventually.

Thanks in advance

Also I found some cheap TwinLab Norwegian Cod Liver Oil on Amazon.com

If you can, try to pick it up at vitamin shoppe, or whole foods, but that is a good secong option. Just make sure it's not emulsified, that is not a recommended form. :)

Twinlab Norwegian Cod Liver Oil, Unflavored, 12 Ounces (Pack of 3) for $14.85 [Removed]

TwinLab Norwegian Cod Liver Oil, Cherry, 12 fl oz (Pack of 3) for $17.47 [Removed]

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I just received my Cod Liver Oil (TwinLab) today and it's too early to tell anything right now (except it tastes gross to me). But I'm willing to take it if it indeed helps with my complexion. Good news... I don't have any difficulty getting 1 teaspoonful out because I just use a 1TSP medicine dropper to take it.

That's actually a good idea, the tsp dropper!

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(@omega3man)

Posted : 09/15/2007 7:40 pm

50mg zinc is that once per day or take it with 1 tsp cod liver. Thanks again

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(@ndnromeo)

Posted : 09/15/2007 7:55 pm

50mg zinc is that once per day or take it with 1 tsp cod liver. Thanks again

It's 1 capsule a day, you can take it with cod liver oil if you please, or at another time, I generally take it with, after a meal.

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(@aroused-guy)

Posted : 09/15/2007 7:59 pm

So it shouldn't matter if I use Cod Liver or Fish oil right?

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(@ndnromeo)

Posted : 09/15/2007 8:01 pm

So it shouldn't matter if I use Cod Liver or Fish oil right?

It does. Fish body oil contains omega 3. Cod liver oil contains omega 3, retinol (pure), and vitamin D. 3 for 1 is the way I like to look at it 🙂 Cod liver oil is the best source of retinol, and every acne suffer should have a good source in their diet because it does so much.

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