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Unless you have a diagnosed ailment warranting short term megadosing like some people with Vit D, you shouldn't be taking 10g or even need to.
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I dont consider 2000mg GLA megadosing.
High doses of GLA are quite commonly recommended:
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"Studies have suggested that up to 2,800 mg of GLA per day is well tolerated."
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Are you braindead? I said 10g, not 2g. Big difference.
No Im not braindead. I think you are confused about the dosages. 10grams of borage oil yields 2grams of GLA.
Borage Oil- 20-22% GLA
Evening Primrose Oil- 10% GLA
Hope this clears up your confusion.
I guess I'm not schooled in Borage oil facts. However I've not heard where it was truly necessay to take 10g of any supplement unless it was like a protein supplement or something like that.
QuoteHow long does it take till u see results if u take 10% GLA, 1000mg EPO capsules... ive been on for 1 month now, should i be expecting to see results?
Ive personally found evening primrose oil to be much less effective than borage oil. That said I do think it is still very beneficial for skin. To find out about my test read this:
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acne1989- have you been taking lecithin with the EPO? Your body will struggle to absorb the EPO without it. Also, have you been taking it just before a meal, with milk? These factors can mean the difference between totally clear skin and no noticeable difference.
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How long does it take till u see results if u take 10% GLA, 1000mg EPO capsules... ive been on for 1 month now, should i be expecting to see results?
Ive personally found evening primrose oil to be much less effective than borage oil. That said I do think it is still very beneficial for skin. To find out about my test read this:
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acne1989- have you been taking lecithin with the EPO? Your body will struggle to absorb the EPO without it. Also, have you been taking it just before a meal, with milk? These factors can mean the difference between totally clear skin and no noticeable difference.
what is all of this. will someone explain!!!
I'd much rather take oral stuff than tear up my skin anymore with topicals and face washes.........
I guess I'm not schooled in Borage oil facts. However I've not heard where it was truly necessay to take 10g of any supplement unless it was like a protein supplement or something like that.
Fair enough. I'll have to do some digging around at some point and find a reference to high borage oil supplementation. However, considering Borage oil is the highest % GLA product out there, and GLA cant be extracted from it to make a pure GLA oil, then Im assuming that all the many references about 1-2g's of GLA/day supplementation implies getting that GLA from borage oil or EPO. And that would mean that if they are recommending 2grams of GLA, you would have to take 10grams of borage oil (or 20grams of EPO)
Probably more economical then the pills.
anyone else with me on the switch to hemp seed oil? it's delcious i promise smile.gif
someoneintheuk, willing to give it a try?
Im currently finishing my test on EPO and then have to move back to borage, totally clear my skin again which should only take a day as I'm 90% clear anyway. Then Im onto Blackcurrant Seed oil to test its effacy in comparison to borage.
Im not convinced with omega 3s tbh. I think they take a lot of maintanence and protection, otherwise they turn on you and cause damage and flare ups. Leos Last Acne Solution is a good source of info on omega 3s and exactly what needs to be done to get the benefits and not any damaging effects. these include extensive supplementation and hardcore diet. Ive tried the omega 3 game before, and lost. 
Let me know how it goes though.
Ok, this has been asked a couple of times before, but I never saw anyone answer it. Does supplementing with GLA actually decrease your oil production? I know you say it's supposed to normalize your hormones, so does that mean you have significantly less oil? Excessive oil production (VERY excessive) is my main proplem, which is why I have so many breakouts. I'm interested in trying this, but it seems like maybe those of you who have had success with this, your acne really isn't that bad anyway. Thanks for any input you can give me!
hi ctb85.
to answer your question GLA will decrease oil production if it gets absorbed and converted by the body properly. Thats why any GLA oil you take has to be taken with lecithin, otherwise you might add to your oil problem.
it is imbalanced hormones that cause an excess in oil production in the sebaceous glands which then leads to acne. by addressing the imbalanced hormones with GLA, which turn into prostaglandins-hormones- the excess oil is no longer produced.
that is the basic theory of why it works, but there is a lot more technical detail of what happens, so my explanation may seem a little oversimplified to some.
anyone else with me on the switch to hemp seed oil? it's delcious i promise smile.gif
someoneintheuk, willing to give it a try?
Im currently finishing my test on EPO and then have to move back to borage, totally clear my skin again which should only take a day as I'm 90% clear anyway. Then Im onto Blackcurrant Seed oil to test its effacy in comparison to borage.
Im not convinced with omega 3s tbh. I think they take a lot of maintanence and protection, otherwise they turn on you and cause damage and flare ups. Leos Last Acne Solution is a good source of info on omega 3s and exactly what needs to be done to get the benefits and not any damaging effects. these include extensive supplementation and hardcore diet. Ive tried the omega 3 game before, and lost.
Let me know how it goes though.
Well, hemp seed oil is similar to EPO and I believe Borage in that it has more 6's then 3's. However, hemp has the ideal ratio, like 1:3 or whatever...
I'm interested in trying this, but it seems like maybe those of you who have had success with this, your acne really isn't that bad anyway.
I dunno..mine was pretty bad..(moderate acne, but it gets...RED, red marks cover around it making it look even worse off!)
Borage oil with Letchin is really helping me. And I wasn't considered "mild acne" not at all. (sorry i don't have pics to prove myself. If I did I would be showing you guys a daily photo journal..)
I personally suggest to you. Try it! There's no harm in trying. This is the real thing, believe me..(I have tried everything!..with little success)
Well, hemp seed oil is similar to EPO and I believe Borage in that it has more 6's then 3's. However, hemp has the ideal ratio, like 1:3 or whatever...
can anyone tell me the exact amounts of the omegas in 1000mg of hemp seed oil? I may consider trying it after blackcurrant seed oil in a couple of weeks if it has 100mg GLA or more.
I dunno..mine was pretty bad..(moderate acne, but it gets...RED, red marks cover around it making it look even worse off!)
Borage oil with Letchin is really helping me. And I wasn't considered "mild acne" not at all. (sorry i don't have pics to prove myself. If I did I would be showing you guys a daily photo journal..)
I personally suggest to you. Try it! There's no harm in trying. This is the real thing, believe me..(I have tried everything!..with little success)
how clear would you say you are rache? a percentage would be a good measurement.
Nope its constantley gettiing clear. I swear its fading my red marks as well! Did the Borage oil fade your red marks someone? Cuz its doing that for me
When I first started I noticed old spots (non-inflamed) and spot marks healed about 10 times quicker than normal. In my first week of taking borage and lecithin I also noticed that any spots that were still forming didnt get to that inflamed state and were just gone within a couple of days.
All my old red marks are long gone.
Well, hemp seed oil is similar to EPO and I believe Borage in that it has more 6's then 3's. However, hemp has the ideal ratio, like 1:3 or whatever...
can anyone tell me the exact amounts of the omegas in 1000mg of hemp seed oil? I may consider trying it after blackcurrant seed oil in a couple of weeks if it has 100mg GLA or more.
I don't know how many mg's are in a tablespoon... but per tablespoon of hemp seed oil (it's a liquid, not a pill), there's 420mg of GLA. It tastes nutty. You can use it like olive oil for a dressing. I combined it with kefir and mixed it well and it tasted fine, you just have to really get the mix well or it'll be cottage cheese-like.
QuoteI don't know how many mg's are in a tablespoon... but per tablespoon of hemp seed oil (it's a liquid, not a pill), there's 420mg of GLA. It tastes nutty. You can use it like olive oil for a dressing. I combined it with kefir and mixed it well and it tasted fine, you just have to really get the mix well or it'll be cottage cheese-like.
ok thanks.
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I've been taking borage oil for a while with no ill effects, and the research I did into it seemed like it was defintely safe to take. Not to mention its incredible acne clearing effects. Unfortunately there is a catch that I only just found out about from the above website. I felt obliged to post this here as Ive been such an advocate for borage oil. Read the above and perhaps research it further, as Im going to do after this post, and decide if you want to change from borage oil to evening primrose oil. This is a bit of a kick in the teeth for me as I have just finished a test on eve primrose oil which showed that it wasnt as effective in keeping me acne free (90% clear) as borage oil (100% clear)- the test had Lecithin in it as well of course.
If I find verification of the information in the above article then I am going to revert back to evening primrose oil and work on improving its effectiveness to 100% with certain supplements that may do this. I'm also going to vigourously research blackcurrent seed oil before testing it as well.
I may want acne free skin but I dont want other health problems from the supplement that is clearing me.
ARGH! ANYone havin' great results? I've been on Borage oil...(eek..someoninuk's safety note, may have to switch to evn. primrse)...anyway, goin' on 3wks now...not doin'a damn thing, actually I'm breakin' out and very very very very oil! (I've always had an oily complexion, but GEEZZZZ OILY)!!!! HELP!?!? Should I keep on the Borage? Should I switch to the ev primrose? ANYone have any grand advice?
oh, as for topical...just using gentle aloe wash...
mommalove- you are probably having trouble converting the starflower oil into the anti-inflammatory prostaglandin E1. If this happens the oil will turn into a pro-inflammatory prostaglandin which is why you are getting the opposite results of what should be happening.
"Various nutrients are also required for the production of prostaglandin. Zinc, Magnesium, Biotin, and vitamin B6 are needed for the first step of the process, the conversion of LA to GLA. Selenium, Vitamin C, Niacin, and zinc are needed for the subsequent conversion of GLA into prostaglandin E1."
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I suggest you either reduce the dose of GLA that you are taking, perhaps to something like 500-800mg or you increase the amount of the vitamins and minerals in the above quote to your diet or even supplement with them.
Just had a couple of breakouts today after almost 5 days on the course. The spots themselves are more like hives than anything else though. As if the starflower oil didn't get properly converted for some reason and had the opposite effect. The breakout itself is all in one small patch on my cheek though it is v red and blotchy. I did get one small 'hive' on my other cheek last night which I also put down to the starflower oil, but that was totally gone when I woke this morning. I need to make sure if I'm going to be taking all this starflower oil that it's going to be put to good use rather than negative. Maybe I should take 2x1200 lecithin with the 5x1000 starflower oil to maximise absorption? I'm also taking the zinc/vit c/chromium after both doses just as a matter of course.