i didn't know that taking borage oil with milk makes it much more effective!! ...great..all this tiem I have been taking it with water..But yeah, I think its been helping me. Maybe not as fast as I want it too though..

wow! I didn't think people were still posting to this. It's been a while since I've been here, but I am sooooo happy to hear that some people have had a great response to EPO. It worked so well for me, I'm frustrated that I can't take it. Some specific comments for people:

 

Mommalove - mine were much like cramping as well. I feel much better not on the EPO even thoigh I wish I could take it.

 

 

MDP.....did you ever try Borage Oil (starflower) instead.... I'm going to try it, just hope it doesn't have the same effect that EPO did on me (cramping thingy..)

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someoneinengland - it's possible that it was related to the laxative like effect, but I also had severe cramping so for me it was more likely the hormone changes as that seems to cause me most problems

it is very possibly caused by the laxative effect (of flaxseed oil). Actually i just found something interesting about flaxseed oil. It can cause intestinal blockage (your stomach cramps) if not taken with enough liquid.

Heres a quote i found:

"For use as a laxative, mix one tablespoonful in water and take two or three times daily. Since flaxseed swells when it mixed with fluids, make sure to use at least 8 ounces of water for each tablespoonful of flaxseed to prevent intestinal blockage."

found at Nutra Sanus [Link Removed]

Another quote:

"In theory, the laxative effects of flaxseed ( not flaxseed oil) may cause diarrhea, increased number of bowel movements, and abdominal discomfort. Laxative effects are reported in several studies of people taking flaxseed or omega-3 acids. Large amounts of flaxseed by mouth may cause the intestines to stop moving (ileus). People with diarrhea, irritable bowel syndrome, diverticulitis, or inflammatory bowel disease (Crohn's disease or ulcerative colitis) should avoid flaxseed due to its possible laxative effects. Nausea, vomiting, and abdominal pain are reported in two individuals shortly after taking flaxseed products by mouth; these reactions may have been caused by allergy."

source: Mayo Clinic [Link Removed]

I think this may answer your questions (IF you were taking flaxseed for your EPOs)

@someoneinengland

so you found borage oil has cleared your acne? could you write down again how much exactly do you take a day and if with milk or with dinner or whatever?

thanks a lot!

oh and do you increase it when you have your days or just before them or do you just take it all the way through?

yep it cleared me and some friends and associates. theres 6 of us in all so far in the last few months.

i take 6000mg starflower (borage) oil a day with 2400mg lecithin.

this is split into 2 doses.

i take with a few gulps of milk just before having my first meal of the day and my last big meal.

thats it.

some others ive helped also need one or two other things as well but generally the starflower/lecithin is sufficient.

read the free course from my sig for more info.

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oh and do you increase it when you have your days or just before them or do you just take it all the way through?

i dont understand this...if you are talking about a period then no. Im a guy.

yep it cleared me and some friends and associates. theres 6 of us in all so far in the last few months.

 

i take 6000mg starflower (borage) oil a day with 2400mg lecithin.

this is split into 2 doses.

i take with a few gulps of milk just before having my first meal of the day and my last big meal.

 

thats it.

 

 

I bought some borage oil (1000 mg) at Lindberg Nutrition. It has 200 mg of GLA per serving. So to get 1000 mg of GLA a day, I would have to take 5000 mg (5 pills) of borage oil a day. The recommended amount on the back of the container says 1-2 softgels a day with food. Is taking this excess amount of GLA (1) Neccessary and (2) Healthy? Also, how can I split 5 pills into two separate servings?

I also bought lecithin softgels from the same store (1200 mg) to take as well. If you could help me out I would be very grateful. Thanks in advance.

sorry i made a mistake i only take 5000mg of starflower oil a day.

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The recommended amount on the back of the container says 1-2 softgels a day with food. Is taking this excess amount of GLA (1) Neccessary and (2) Healthy? Also, how can I split 5 pills into two separate servings?

I dont consider it an excessive amount. The higher GLA you take initially, the faster your hormones can be regulated and balanced and the better the results for your skin. If you only took 200-400mg gla a day you would probably see results in months rather than days or weeks. As far as I am aware there are no negative side effects to taking GLA- most people with acne are deficient in it and getting it in food is rare.

"You won't find large amounts of GLA in food. In addition to evening primrose oil, good sources of GLA include borage oil and black currant oil. An often-suggested dose is 1 to 2 grams of GLA per day. "

source: Dummies.com [Link Removed]

I hope this puts your mind at rest on the dosage level.

I'll give it a shot - It can't be worse than slapping ridiculous amounts of BP on your face twice a day.

yes bp is a ridiculous thing to put on your face.

the facemaster course is a piece of p*ss to do

Face master? I'll have to read what that's about...But I'm currently on Diane at the moment for acne too, and it's my 4th month. My skin is clearing well, but I still get like one or two small pimples. I take multi-vitamins, as well as fish oil, but I was wondering whether I should take EPO instead of fish oil? Is it ok to take it with the pill?

Face master? I'll have to read what that's about...But I'm currently on Diane at the moment for acne too, and it's my 4th month. My skin is clearing well, but I still get like one or two small pimples. I take multi-vitamins, as well as fish oil, but I was wondering whether I should take EPO instead of fish oil? Is it ok to take it with the pill?

 

I take both EPO and fish oil just to let you know... it works great together so far. I'm sure its fine to take it with Diane.. maybe do a little googling on it to see if its okay

mommalove - I didn't take borage oil b/c from what I found on the web, it seems as though it has more side effects than EPO. For people who have reactions, they recommend EPO instead. I think I'm just shit out of luck with taking anything in this family of stuff.

Liv -I'm glad Diane is working for you. It cleared me right up when I was on it 5 years ago. I don't want to damper the success, but when I went off of it my face became way worse than it ever was before. I hope you don't experience the same thing, but just be prepared in case.

Borage oil had side effects on people??..what kind of side effects were reported "i am curious"

1 Borage oil cap= 1,000mg.

1 am before breakfast with milk

1 pm during supper with milk

2,000 mg's--->Borage oil

480 mgs ----->GLA

680 mgs------>Loilinic

280 mg's----->Oilinic

"someoneinengland" is that doseage going to help clear me up, fix my hormones up?

And Letchin how is that helpfull, does it help the borage oil to work better?

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Borage oil had side effects on people??..what kind of side effects were reported "i am curious"

1 Borage oil cap= 1,000mg.

1 am before breakfast with milk

1 pm during supper with milk

2,000 mg's--->Borage oil

480 mgs ----->GLA

680 mgs------>Loilinic

280 mg's----->Oilinic

"someoneinengland" is that doseage going to help clear me up, fix my hormones up?

No. It is too little. I would think it would take a few months for any effect on hormones to occur at that level.

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And Letchin how is that helpfull, does it help the borage oil to work better?

lecithin emulsifies the fat of the oil.

"Lecithin forms naturally in all living cells of the body, and just as it does in food, it acts as an emulsifier. It helps keep fatty substances in bile, which is essentially a kind of juice produced by your liver. When lecithin is doing all it should, it also eases digestion and helps your body absorb valuable nutrients."

source: [Link Removed]

Okay I'll go get some lecithin, and take the amount that site says.

And..instead of 1 am, 1pm. Should I take 2am, 2pm?

I know that only barely makes 1,000 mg's of GLA content..But I don't think taking anymore then that would be good for me.

And..instead of 1 am, 1pm. Should I take 2am, 2pm?

ru talking about the time of day?

just take it with milk, before eating (within a couple of minutes). First food of the day, e.g. breakfast, then with evening food e.g. dinner/supper or late evening snack.

I know that only barely makes 1,000 mg's of GLA content..But I don't think taking anymore then that would be good for me.

why dont you think it will be good for you? It has been very good for me and others.

Face master? I'll have to read what that's about...But I'm currently on Diane at the moment for acne too, and it's my 4th month. My skin is clearing well, but I still get like one or two small pimples. I take multi-vitamins, as well as fish oil, but I was wondering whether I should take EPO instead of fish oil? Is it ok to take it with the pill?

 

 

I take both EPO and fish oil just to let you know... it works great together so far. I'm sure its fine to take it with Diane.. maybe do a little googling on it to see if its okay

 

hmm....I might just do that...I don't think it will affect the pill...I was thinking of getting off diane and taking vitamin E, Fish oil, and EPO to keep clear instead.

alright I'm gonna give this a go too. I have started taking primrose oil with my accutane pill cause it's said to increase the effect of tane. tane is working great (of course) but I'm on a relatively low dose (20mg) and maybe that's the reason why I'm still getting things like "blocked pores" during my period.

It's so annoying when you're on tane because you keep thinking why do I put myself through all this crap when it doesn't really work during those couple of days every month.

also, as most people, I'm really scared what will happen when I come off tane (in about 2 months) and I desperately want something to maintain my 99% clear skin.

do you people think taking starflower oil is safe to take while on tane or will it affect anything?

and what about the lecithin, should that only be taken when the starflower oil doesn't work properly yet or right from the beginning?

taking primrose oil hasn't had any effect on me so far so I'll change to starflower oil and go on 2000mg as it says on this facemaster site. I really hope this will be the answer (although it normally isn't ).

I was on dianette a couple of years ago before I went on tane but it didn't do anything for me although I took it for like 7 months. It was really disappointing so I'm not even sure if my acne is hormonal related.

that whole GLA thing probably doesn't work at all if your acne has a different cause, does it?

you know I have no problem with taking pills for the rest of my life as long as it keeps my skin clear but tane is just such a bomb I'd rather stick with oils.

if this works I'm going to propose to the founder of this post!

oh yes and one more thing, I'm taking loads of supplements at the moment because of tane and its nice little side effects.

they are: vitamin C, vitamin E, silicia-mineral complex and iron.

do you people think those supplements could interfer with the starflower oil in any way?

and do you need a certain amount of calories per day to get the full effect of starflower oil? cause I'm on a diet from time to time and not eating a lot of fatty foods during this time...

thanks a lot for any answers to this, hope the GLA works for you all!!

Guys it is not secret or something new that GLA is really makes hormone balance.. not only facemaster but even ebook Your Last Acne Solution by Leo, or Acne Cure ( Removed Link) ~ They all have same point and same root curing acne : it is GLA Way (Efa's)

jesus, is it right that when you take 2000mg of GLA a day you actually have to swallow like 10 capsules (each capsule containing 220mg of GLA) to get to that dose (slightly over it but that was the only thing they sold)???

yes I can calculate, but 10 capsules a day?? that's gonna be fun!

I dont you need 2000mg GLA ~ just take 2 table soon EFA and wait 1 month see resultad

jesus, is it right that when you take 2000mg of GLA a day you actually have to swallow like 10 capsules (each capsule containing 220mg of GLA) to get to that dose (slightly over it but that was the only thing they sold)???

 

yes I can calculate, but 10 capsules a day?? that's gonna be fun!

 

I dont you need 2000mg GLA ~ just take 2 table soon EFA and wait 1 month see resultad

 

 

jesus, is it right that when you take 2000mg of GLA a day you actually have to swallow like 10 capsules (each capsule containing 220mg of GLA) to get to that dose (slightly over it but that was the only thing they sold)???

 

yes I can calculate, but 10 capsules a day?? that's gonna be fun!

 

 

melfice2k,

what's "2 table soon EFA"?? could you explain again, please?

..what's EFA?

yep it cleared me and some friends and associates. theres 6 of us in all so far in the last few months.

 

i take 6000mg starflower (borage) oil a day with 2400mg lecithin.

this is split into 2 doses.

i take with a few gulps of milk just before having my first meal of the day and my last big meal.

 

thats it.

 

some others ive helped also need one or two other things as well but generally the starflower/lecithin is sufficient.

 

read the free course from my sig for more info.

 

oh and do you increase it when you have your days or just before them or do you just take it all the way through? eusa_think.gif

 

i dont understand this...if you are talking about a period then no. Im a guy.

 

someoneinengland,

6000mg of starflower oil (how much GLA is that then?) and 2400mg lecithin, I thought your course talks about 2000mg of GLA and 500-1200mg of lecithin? god it's hard to find the right dose.....

what would you suggest for a "beginner"? should I take any other oils as well?

and do you take it as a fluid? cause when it comes to capsules you sort of need pockets to carry them all

someoneinengland,

sorry I keep missing certain posts of yours...

but can I ask how long it took you to see results? what was your acne like before?

and did you try accutane or anything like that before?

are you now a 100% clear?

(cause sometimes people talk about being clear and they just aren't, clear means clear as the skin on your....ummm let's say feet (I don't think anyone ever got a pimple on their feet ))

Argh sorry it is just my keyboard Lol batter finish ~ Anyways I mean a day 2 or max 3 table spoon would be enough you GLA.

someoneinengland,

6000mg of starflower oil (how much GLA is that then?) and 2400mg lecithin, I thought your course talks about 2000mg of GLA and 500-1200mg of lecithin? god it's hard to find the right dose.....

what would you suggest for a "beginner"? should I take any other oils as well?

and do you take it as a fluid? cause when it comes to capsules you sort of need pockets to carry them all

I take 5000mg of starflower oil (10 caps) which contains 1000mg GLA. I take 2400mg Lecithin (2 caps)

Thats 12 capsules a day.

In two doses.

I take with milk before a meal or food.

I swallow 4 times a day to keep my skin clear.

someoneinengland,

sorry I keep missing certain posts of yours... eusa_shifty.gif

but can I ask how long it took you to see results? what was your acne like before?

and did you try accutane or anything like that before?

are you now a 100% clear?

My acne was bad (in my opinion and thats what counts right?) but I would usually have about 5-10 'live' spots at anyone time. The occassioanl cyst as well.

I would start with the high dose recommended on the course and after a couple of weeks lower it. I wouldnt recommend other oils, although others on the forum may disagree.

Im writing up a detailed 'My Acne Story' so you will ahve to wait to see. But yes i did have accutane when I was 17-18.