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Hey since when is this thread about acne? I thought it was about dating and crushes? lol I'm just kidding again. 
So I've found if I wash my face once a week, drying it out completely, then spending two days with a red, oily face, and then going back to just rinsing in the shower or not showering at all for the rest of the week, it works well. Those two days suck, but if I don't dry it out once a week I start breaking out.
We're not dating. At least not in the sense that we're, you know, having amourous thoughts or anything... We're just people spending time together.
Nutrition, eh? Every dietitian I ever met I thought was a really nice person... And I like I said that one dietitian at work is taller than you.
I'm just joking.
Do you have any links to these YouTube videos that you're watching?
@Flagglives: Didn't you break contact with a woman or start seeing her less because you were having trouble dealing with your acne/fears?
Anyway, I work in a hospital so therefore I run into women who actually care if anyone lives or dies. That may have something to do with it.
Also I was approached by a woman where I work recently who said she had noticed me. So I said "Well we could always go for a drink?". And so we did. We went out (During which we ate some brownies and drank Fanta. Yeah!) and then later she came to me at work and said she had liked the evening so we exchanged phone numbers and now I plan on calling her to ask her to go to a cool Greek restaurant there is out here. But you know, it's a purely platonic thing. There's no mutual attraction in certain ways and it's clear also that she and I look at certain things way too differently so even if there was a mutual attraction we wouldn't be compatible anyway. Anyway, it just goes to show you that when you're forward like she was with me it doesn't always end up in an unpleasant situation.
I hope to meet women once I get into the Nutritional science program. I like girls who are interested in Nutrition! I am glad you're dating someone!
I've been learning on YouTube on how to tell if a woman is interested in you. It is pretty helpful for when I start dating.
Oh, I never dated before so I don't even know what a real dating is. I do know hanging out and dating are different. I will see if i can find the links! That was a while ago. You could just type ""how to tell if a girl's interested in you" and there will be tons of video! I might watch a few later today.. hah. It is hard to find someone because I am a vegan and so I want a vegan girl or a girl interested in becoming a vegan eventually.
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lolololololol It says that dating a non-vegan as a vegan is a "headache". 
Also, here's what someone says on there:
"I get on with everyone but find it increasingly hard to get close to people who dont share the same opinions as me."
Just try to wrap your head around that one.
haha seems like a common theme is going on here... so on that topic - I don't think guys notice me either really... I know of a few in the past but my skin was better then than it is now and I don't know how serious they were or if they were just messing with me...
Anyway...
Today I'm feeling ok. Yesterday was horrible though. Crying spells and everything - out of nowhere all this stress and anxiety (about uni, my skin, life in general - everything really) hit me like a truck and I didn't cope too well... I'm still feeling stressed today but it's nowhere near as severe and I'm doing ok today... but it is only 10am... plenty of time left in the day for things to go downhill but I'm hoping things stay pretty good 
On 4/28/2013 at 7:34 AM, Jug said:Debating on going dairy and meat free. It's going to be tough, but I think it's going to be worth it.
Of course it is worth it! I am a vegan I never felt this great. It takes a while for your body to get used to it without dairy and meat, but eventually, you'll start to feel a lot of better. Your skin will glow. My skin is very smooth and it got improved a lot.
On 4/27/2013 at 11:00 PM, Lapis lazuli said:[Edited link out]
lolololololol It says that dating a non-vegan as a vegan is a "headache".
Also, here's what someone says on there:
"I get on with everyone but find it increasingly hard to get close to people who dont share the same opinions as me."
Just try to wrap your head around that one.
Ha ha, I went to that site and I didn't like it. I really don't want to pay! There are a lot of vegans who use OKcupid and it is a free site. ^^
Feeling really low today. Everyone my age seems to be getting married, moving in together, having children; they are getting more and more confident, and I feel no different to when I was a teenager: insecure, alone, afraid to even go out in sunlight. The worst thing is that women don't even stare at me in disgust; they look through me, as if I don't exist, as if I'm beneath their consideration. I am no one.
Ha ha, I went to that site and I didn't like it. I really don't want to pay! There are a lot of vegans who use OKcupid and it is a free site. ^^
I don't like it either. 
It seems fake. A lot of the profile names are bogus it seems to me. Also what's strange is that on the profiles of the people they can actually list the person's STDs if they have them. That site is totally rediculous to me. But it was just the first thing that popped up when I Googled vegan dating.
Ha ha, I went to that site and I didn't like it. I really don't want to pay! There are a lot of vegans who use OKcupid and it is a free site. ^^
I don't like it either.
It seems fake. A lot of the profile names are bogus it seems to me. Also what's strange is that on the profiles of the people they can actually list the person's STDs if they have them. That site is totally rediculous to me. But it was just the first thing that popped up when I Googled vegan dating.
Yeah, I prefer OKcupidz or Plenty of fishes! I have met a few girls on these dating site, but had no luck. They all stopped messaging me. I dunno what I am doing wrong, but working on it 
I have an advice for those of you guys, who are concerned about dating and finding a girlfriend. I used to date A LOT some years ago and have met all different kind of guys. Some of them rejected me, some were rejected by me. Those I rejected had one feature in common and I think I'll speak on behalf of the majority of girls (or close to that) when I say, that the most repulsive thing about a guy you just met is his despair to get a girlfriend... Even when you chat with such guys virtually you can feel how over-enthusiastic they are and it's not attractive. I think many girls stop answering after a while.
So the advice would be - don't sweat it! Let them wait for your answer for a day or two sometimes. Don't overwhelm them with goodnights, goodmornings, 100 sms asking what they're doing and never ending compliments. Another thing, there's no need to open up completely - if you tell everything about yourself while you're still chatting, there won't be any mystery when you meet. Also, it's a bit awkward if you tell them all about your childhood's fears, acne struggles and undisclosed desires before you even got to know them or started dating. Be a bit of a "bad guy" (doesn't mean you should treat anyone badly, but just keep it interesting!) An attractive person has a bit of the dark side, because plain goodies are just boring.
That's my advice! I'm no expert, but I was told have an analytical mind when it comes to people's behaviour! And I had a lot of short-term dates (it's easier for a girl) So you can trust me...a bit
On 4/28/2013 at 10:25 PM, Pianina said:I have an advice for those of you guys, who are concerned about dating and finding a girlfriend. I used to date A LOT some years ago and have met all different kind of guys. Some of them rejected me, some were rejected by me. Those I rejected had one feature in common and I think I'll speak on behalf of the majority of girls (or close to that) when I say, that the most repulsive thing about a guy you just met is his despair to get a girlfriend... Even when you chat with such guys virtually you can feel how over-enthusiastic they are and it's not attractive. I think many girls stop answering after a while.
So the advice would be - don't sweat it! Let them wait for your answer for a day or two sometimes. Don't overwhelm them with goodnights, goodmornings, 100 sms asking what they're doing and never ending compliments. Another thing, there's no need to open up completely - if you tell everything about yourself while you're still chatting, there won't be any mystery when you meet. Also, it's a bit awkward if you tell them all about your childhood's fears, acne struggles and undisclosed desires before you even got to know them or started dating. Be a bit of a "bad guy" (doesn't mean you should treat anyone badly, but just keep it interesting!) An attractive person has a bit of the dark side, because plain goodies are just boring.
That's my advice! I'm no expert, but I was told have an analytical mind when it comes to people's behaviour! And I had a lot of short-term dates (it's easier for a girl)
Being another female, I can testify that everything she has said here is 100 percent true. I want a guy who seems enticed, interested and attracted to me, but who doesn't seem to need me or have anything riding on whether our relationship works out. He should just seem happy to be around me but play it kind of coy too and take time for us to get to know one another. The best thing a guy can be is funny and playful and when those "deep talks" do occur between us, it will feel real and special because I'd be able to tell he doesn't open up to just any girl. 
On 4/28/2013 at 10:25 PM, Pianina said:Be a bit of a "bad guy" (doesn't mean you should treat anyone badly, but just keep it interesting!) An attractive person has a bit of the dark side, because plain goodies are just boring.
lol... I've heard a lot of women say that. And I still wonder exactly what they mean.
Girl: So do you have a bit of a dark side?
Guy: Uhm... I dunno.
Girl: Come on you have to be a bit of a jerk sometimes?
Guy: lol No, I can't think of anything.
Girl: Are you ever dishonest?
Guy: No.
Girl: Have you ever been rude?
Guy: No.
Girl: Stolen a cookie?
Guy: No.
Girl: Thrown a puppy on the highway??
Guy: Yes, I did do that one time.
Girl: Awesome!
I mean... What exactly do women mean when they say a guy can't be 100% sweet or else he's boring? Could you guys girls give examples? For instance what do some guys do that's "bad" that makes them attractive? Let me know.
On 4/29/2013 at 1:32 AM, Lapis lazuli said:On 4/28/2013 at 10:25 PM, Pianina said:Be a bit of a "bad guy" (doesn't mean you should treat anyone badly, but just keep it interesting!) An attractive person has a bit of the dark side, because plain goodies are just boring.
lol... I've heard a lot of women say that. And I still wonder exactly what they mean.
Girl: So do you have a bit of a dark side?
Guy: Uhm... I dunno.
Girl: Come on you have to be a bit of a jerk sometimes?
Guy: lol No, I can't think of anything.
Girl: Are you ever dishonest?
Guy: No.
Girl: Have you ever been rude?
Guy: No.
Girl: Stolen a cookie?
Guy: No.
Girl: Thrown a puppy on the highway??
Guy: Yes, I did do that one time.
Girl: Awesome!
I mean... What exactly do women mean when they say a guy can't be 100% sweet or else he's boring? Could you
guysgirls give examples? For instance what do some guys do that's "bad" that makes them attractive? Let me know.
Read again. It clearly says: "a BIT of a bad guy" + "it doesn't mean treat anyone badly". Ever heard that too much sugar will make you sick? The same about the guy being 100% sweet.
It makes me tired to even reply to someone who takes words so literally, geezus Use your interpretation, Lapis
Read again. It clearly says: "a BIT of a bad guy" + "it doesn't mean treat anyone badly". Ever heard that too much sugar will make you sick? The same about the guy being 100% sweet.
It makes me tired to even reply to someone who takes words so literally, geezus
Use your interpretation, Lapis
But how can you be even a bit of a bad guy without ever treating anyone badly? I'm confused. 
I agree that when people are always "sweet" it's not attractive as it's not natural as no one is perfect and no one always feel OK. But I should have written "good" instead of "sweet". Anyway... I'm still fascinated by the whole "bit of a bad guy is attractive" thing. It's a mystery to me.
Or ok, maybe I should be kinder and explain
As I already mentioned, sweet guys tend be overwhelming with their attention, always available and ready to chat. They make it clear that they need you badly. If you don't even the person well enough, what's the reason for your openness and unlimited attention? The answer is: desperation. That's off-putting. I would like guy's attention when he later collects some experience with me and finds out that I'm awesome for whatever reason. It means he has some reason for admiration, not just superficial wish to find a girlfriend asap.
"Bad" guy doesn't literally means he does bad things to others. It means he keeps some mystery and doesn't jump around you like a doggy. He will have an opinion about according to the impression he got about you, not just the fact that you're an attractive female and he would like to have you. He'll have other things beside you. But then again - I said "a little bit a a bad guy", so being sweet is welcomed! Everything needs to have some depth, not just 100 % sweet or "bad".
On 4/29/2013 at 2:07 AM, Lapis lazuli said:On 4/29/2013 at 1:53 AM, Pianina said:Read again. It clearly says: "a BIT of a bad guy" + "it doesn't mean treat anyone badly". Ever heard that too much sugar will make you sick? The same about the guy being 100% sweet.
It makes me tired to even reply to someone who takes words so literally, geezus
I agree that when people are always "sweet" it's not attractive as it's not natural as no one is perfect and no one always feel OK. But I should have written "good" instead of "sweet".
"Bad guy" is an image created by media, seriemovies and popular culture. If you ever dealt with that and didn't live in a cave for the most of your life, you should at least have an idea what it means.
Just to add to this discussion: I usually come across as a "bad boy"...even though it's completely unintentional on my part. I rarely text girls first, I let them show interest first before I make any kind of move...basically I let girls chase me instead of the other way around, and this is due to the fact that I'm insecure about my skin and it gives me approach anxiety and that fear of rejection....haha so even though I'm not making conscientious effort to be kind of an asshole, I think I still come across as one to most girls I meet. I definitely get what the girls on here are saying though, I agree with the fact that too much sweet/needy/clingy behavior is a huge turnoff. I think that goes for both genders though, because I've met some super sugary sweet girls before that text me nonstop, and it's such a turnoff and it's like the desperation they display kinda drives me away from them and forces me to cut contact.
On 4/27/2013 at 4:32 PM, Lapis lazuli said:@Flagglives: Didn't you break contact with a woman or start seeing her less because you were having trouble dealing with your acne/fears?
I screwed that situation up pretty quickly. I accidentally "friend zoned" that girl without even realizing I did it. Depending on my moods I can go through periods of being really happy/social to sad as fuck and wanting to just be alone in a cave, and shortly after I started hanging out with that girl I started to get into one of my "blah" depressed moods. And during that time she and I didn't talk as much because I had withdrawn into my own little world a bit, and she took that as disinterest. We're still good friends and we chat all the time at work, so I think honestly it's better that way. Truth be told, as much as I say I want a girlfriend, I don't even know if I'm ready for a girlfriend at this point in my life...I honestly don't want to drag ANY girl down with all the emotional baggage that comes with me. So that girl basically dodged a bullet and she doesn't even realize it, lol.
Lapis I get this feeling that your dehydrated......
Girls aren't hard to.get is all simple basic stuff
Take it step by step don't try to rush everything in one day. Even if you get into the friend zone situation you could flip it around, if I recall I turn 2 friend zone situation into a friends with benefits type.
Sometimes the problem is guys start thinking to much get all worry nervous etc , just let it ride
And if it didn't work NEXT.
P.S
Feeling good, maybe beach next week
I've decided tomorrow that I'm starting the Acne.org regimen. I've got nothing to lose by starting it, and what the fuck, I figure it's worth a try. I'm not gonna be able to buy the products directly from the site, but I'm gonna pick up all the store-shelf items Dan lists as alternatives and I'm gonna follow it as religiously as possible. I've been using Epiduo for a long time now anyways so I figure the majority of my skin is already used to 2.5% bp...so yeah, I'm gonna give this a go and see how it goes.
Here's what I think of when I think "bad boy as presented by the media". Check it out:
You see that? She's at his feet, lusting for him, trying to get his attention but he's too busy staring into the camera being "cool" and vain. There's definately some sort of dominance that is seen in that picture. At least that's sort of how I look at it.
These "bad boys" like that are indeed "boys" in my opinion. Sort of like what people are referring to as "jocks" which are inconsiderate, buffed, dominant types...at least that's how I always understood it. It reminds me of what one woman said namely that deep down every woman wants to be treated as a man's possession. Which I do not agree with, by the way.
Anyway, what you kindly described is a whole different kind of dude. Namely an independent, thoughtful, genuine, mature person... So bad boy isn't necessarily the right way to describe your ideal partner, in my opinion... You could try to say you're interested in dating "a real man". That would be better!
On 4/29/2013 at 2:18 AM, Pianina said:Or ok, maybe I should be kinder and explain
As I already mentioned, sweet guys tend be overwhelming with their attention, always available and ready to chat. They make it clear that they need you badly. If you don't even the person well enough, what's the reason for your openness and unlimited attention? The answer is: desperation. That's off-putting. I would like guy's attention when he later collects some experience with me and finds out that I'm awesome for whatever reason. It means he has some reason for admiration, not just superficial wish to find a girlfriend asap.
"Bad" guy doesn't literally means he does bad things to others. It means he keeps some mystery and doesn't jump around you like a doggy. He will have an opinion about according to the impression he got about you, not just the fact that you're an attractive female and he would like to have you. He'll have other things beside you. But then again - I said "a little bit a a bad guy", so being sweet is welcomed! Everything needs to have some depth, not just 100 % sweet or "bad".