is microneedling effective in treating acne scars?

[accutaneeuser 6]

i did a lot of research and found out that microneedling is much more better and safer that lasers and chemical peels. I also read positive reviews on it. So, is there anyone here who have done this treatment? was it effective?

[Grooving Till Old, Till Dust 76]

I have done it but it wasn't professionally done by a doctor; I did a few at home treatments. That was almost a year ago and I cant really see any improvement. Because of this I recommend you doing the procedure with a dermatologist, just for the first couple of treatments. Then maybe try doing it on yourself.

[Acnesufferer353 3]

You could try massaging the scars to "plump" up the skin. By massaging means you have to do it in a special way. The idea is to force the collagen that stay beneath the dermis layers up to the upper layers of skin since the collagen molecules are too large to penetrate. Same theory as microneedling that to promote scar healing is to allow the collagen to pass through the dermis upto the epidermis.

I am consuming vitamin C and spirulina to assist in scar healing. My massage method is squeezing the scars several times everyday as if you wanted the squeeze something out from the skin but not too hard just enough to see blood rushing in then gradually pinch your fingers inward.

This way you will not damage the healthy skin and causes new scars by dermaroll. It is not suitable if you still have active acnes and to treat acne you have to extract the comedone as soon as possible by poking with fine tiny needle and squeeze out followed by retin-a on the tip of the needle and gently insert it into the wound several times as deep just enough and let the retin a stay "inside" of the wound . The idea is to limit the production of the sebum. This is good if you have cyst prone skin.

Well cheers and take care.

Edited April 15, 2017 by Acnesufferer353

[accutaneeuser 6]

On 14/04/2017 at 9:49 AM, Grooving Till Old, Till Dust said:

I have done it but it wasn't professionally done by a doctor; I did a few at home treatments. That was almost a year ago and I cant really see any improvement. Because of this I recommend you doing the procedure with a dermatologist, just for the first couple of treatments. Then maybe try doing it on yourself.

how many times did you do it?

[Grooving Till Old, Till Dust 76]

8 hours ago, accutaneeuser said:

On 4/14/2017 at 3:49 AM, Grooving Till Old, Till Dust said:

I have done it but it wasn't professionally done by a doctor; I did a few at home treatments. That was almost a year ago and I cant really see any improvement. Because of this I recommend you doing the procedure with a dermatologist, just for the first couple of treatments. Then maybe try doing it on yourself.

how many times did you do it?

I did it 4-5times with a 1mm needle length roller.  Now I have learned that 1mm is not long enough for making good improvement with acne scars.  

[420blazeitfgt 22]

its total bullshit

[Guest]

Wouldnt say its complete bullshit,different people react differently to others,skin type,diet,other skin care factors.i have done it 3x now,currently i am waiting out the 3rd roll,do i got 3 weeks to wait for 1 month healing to pass.

i can sefinately say it softens and improves rolling a little at a time,one minor negative (might be a big one for some) is that if you have a scar and its not all visible it can/will reveal most of the scar tissue.

i am 50 and it treats wrinkles and keeps them at bay so if it can remove and prevent wrinkles you can imagine what happens to scar tissue,your face skin moves and tightens and collagen will build up.

i use a 1.5 and its also important to use it correctly.

dermaroller works with other therapies best,i am currectly tca crossing the ice picks and even some atrophic scars as these sraw attention to the rest of my face which is mostly textural.i can hand on heart recommend it but its a slow process.diet is important also.i have done my second tca cross and am waiting the alloted time fir recovery.then i will move onto tca peels coupled with derma roller.

right treatment for right scars,skin type,right lifestyle,diet and finding what works for you.

amazing realy as it cost £4 for a roller,£10 for 100% tca for cross technique,i put up with scars for 30 years and now it is clearing up and i look better for it.i used honey,brown sugar face scrub and did that religously for nigh on a year and even that changed my scarring.

its a long long process but after 2-3 month if done right,using correct techniques you will get improvement.

[accutaneeuser 6]

23 minutes ago, Quadboy said:

Wouldnt say its complete bullshit,different people react differently to others,skin type,diet,other skin care factors.i have done it 3x now,currently i am waiting out the 3rd roll,do i got 3 weeks to wait for 1 month healing to pass.

i can sefinately say it softens and improves rolling a little at a time,one minor negative (might be a big one for some) is that if you have a scar and its not all visible it can/will reveal most of the scar tissue.

i am 50 and it treats wrinkles and keeps them at bay so if it can remove and prevent wrinkles you can imagine what happens to scar tissue,your face skin moves and tightens and collagen will build up.

i use a 1.5 and its also important to use it correctly.

dermaroller works with other therapies best,i am currectly tca crossing the ice picks and even some atrophic scars as these sraw attention to the rest of my face which is mostly textural.i can hand on heart recommend it but its a slow process.diet is important also.i have done my second tca cross and am waiting the alloted time fir recovery.then i will move onto tca peels coupled with derma roller.

right treatment for right scars,skin type,right lifestyle,diet and finding what works for you.

amazing realy as it cost £4 for a roller,£10 for 100% tca for cross technique,i put up with scars for 30 years and now it is clearing up and i look better for it.i used honey,brown sugar face scrub and did that religously for nigh on a year and even that changed my scarring.

its a long long process but after 2-3 month if done right,using correct techniques you will get improvement.

whaaaat?what do you mean it can reveal the scar tissue? i mean my scars are not very noticeable but when you get closer you can see them. they look like large pores or something.. i really dont want to mess things up..

23 minutes ago, Quadboy said:

Wouldnt say its complete bullshit,different people react differently to others,skin type,diet,other skin care factors.i have done it 3x now,currently i am waiting out the 3rd roll,do i got 3 weeks to wait for 1 month healing to pass.

i can sefinately say it softens and improves rolling a little at a time,one minor negative (might be a big one for some) is that if you have a scar and its not all visible it can/will reveal most of the scar tissue.

i am 50 and it treats wrinkles and keeps them at bay so if it can remove and prevent wrinkles you can imagine what happens to scar tissue,your face skin moves and tightens and collagen will build up.

i use a 1.5 and its also important to use it correctly.

dermaroller works with other therapies best,i am currectly tca crossing the ice picks and even some atrophic scars as these sraw attention to the rest of my face which is mostly textural.i can hand on heart recommend it but its a slow process.diet is important also.i have done my second tca cross and am waiting the alloted time fir recovery.then i will move onto tca peels coupled with derma roller.

right treatment for right scars,skin type,right lifestyle,diet and finding what works for you.

amazing realy as it cost £4 for a roller,£10 for 100% tca for cross technique,i put up with scars for 30 years and now it is clearing up and i look better for it.i used honey,brown sugar face scrub and did that religously for nigh on a year and even that changed my scarring.

its a long long process but after 2-3 month if done right,using correct techniques you will get improvement.

7 hours ago, 420blazeitfgt said:

its total bullshit

why is that?

7 hours ago, 420blazeitfgt said:

its total bullshit

why is that? Edited April 23, 2017 by accutaneeuser

[Guest]

First you need to identify your scarring type,then apply the relevant treatment,pores,textural is usualy treated with tca peels at home,icepicks and some boxscars take tca cross,rolling can be treated with tca peels but subscision is one of its treatments.

why does dermaroller reveal scarring more?well to start of roller,needling mulchs up tje scarred tissue and often scars you see often are more than meet the eye,you need to look closer in a mirror with right light.you could say have what looks like pore scarring,ice picks but looking closer might reveal rolling scar tissue damage.

rolling resculpts your face,so it reshapes your skin and therefore your skin undergos changes due to encouraged collagen growth.

sometimes things seem to get worse before they get better!

if i ask this question as an example.you change yoyr diet as you got spots,you est what you think is correct things,so your face all of a sudden breaks out even more?

well how can that be if your eating correct things?

because your body is purging and detoxing and an often sude effect is a drastic body reaction leading to a breakout.

the same can be said for rolling and other treatments.

i tca crossed,first time it made the ice picks,pores look bigger,well its supposed to heal them isnt it?no,it makes the skin react making them look deeper and wider,then they start to heal and results in them closing and becoming less deeper.

see,sometimes it gets a little worse before it starts to get better.


 

[420blazeitfgt 22]

You'll never see before and after pics from someone who claims to have good results from needling

[beautifulambition 1919]

I have and I have given thousands of people advice on here. As other users have said it's the type of scarring and severity that matters. Don't use cognitive dissonance and say all of anything because it works for some people. Does it work for major scars, NO! But That is why acne scars are a multi treatment approach which varies, never one and done. Just saw amazing results with a guy who did 1.5mm microneedling and serum only on surface box cars, this is months after he stopped (not micro swelling). When your body gets cut, it refreshes itself and "heals," Thus microneedling works with the body's wounding and healing process. Is it magic, no. I have seen great results as I have consulted with many less severe cases with microneedle and tca peels. Please read my FAQ to get a better under standing of microneedling and other procedures or provide proof why microneedling does not work if you are making a claim "it does not work." 

[accutaneeuser 6]

2 hours ago, beautifulambition said:

@420blazeitfgt I have and I have given thousands of people advice on here. As other users have said it's the type of scarring and severity that matters. Don't use cognitive dissonance and say all of anything because it works for some people. Does it work for major scars, NO! But That is why acne scars are a multi treatment approach which varies, never one and done. Just saw amazing results with a guy who did 1.5mm microneedling and serum only on surface box cars, this is months after he stopped (not micro swelling). When your body gets cut, it refreshes itself and "heals," Thus microneedling works with the body's wounding and healing process. Is it magic, no. I have seen great results as I have consulted with many less severe cases with microneedle and tca peels. Please read my FAQ to get a better under standing of microneedling and other procedures or provide proof why microneedling does not work if you are making a claim "it does not work." 

well, that's interesting. i think it might be the right choice for me since i only have those small scars that look like large pores.. im just so afraid it will make them worse as some people say Edited April 23, 2017 by accutaneeuser

[420blazeitfgt 22]

4 hours ago, beautifulambition said:

@420blazeitfgt I have and I have given thousands of people advice on here. As other users have said it's the type of scarring and severity that matters. Don't use cognitive dissonance and say all of anything because it works for some people. Does it work for major scars, NO! But That is why acne scars are a multi treatment approach which varies, never one and done. Just saw amazing results with a guy who did 1.5mm microneedling and serum only on surface box cars, this is months after he stopped (not micro swelling). When your body gets cut, it refreshes itself and "heals," Thus microneedling works with the body's wounding and healing process. Is it magic, no. I have seen great results as I have consulted with many less severe cases with microneedle and tca peels. Please read my FAQ to get a better under standing of microneedling and other procedures or provide proof why microneedling does not work if you are making a claim "it does not work." 

 Its kind of up to the people claiming it does work to provide proof of it doing so, so how about linking some threads that have pictures showing actual progress from microneedling?

[Grooving Till Old, Till Dust 76]

2 hours ago, 420blazeitfgt said:

6 hours ago, beautifulambition said:

@420blazeitfgt I have and I have given thousands of people advice on here. As other users have said it's the type of scarring and severity that matters. Don't use cognitive dissonance and say all of anything because it works for some people. Does it work for major scars, NO! But That is why acne scars are a multi treatment approach which varies, never one and done. Just saw amazing results with a guy who did 1.5mm microneedling and serum only on surface box cars, this is months after he stopped (not micro swelling). When your body gets cut, it refreshes itself and "heals," Thus microneedling works with the body's wounding and healing process. Is it magic, no. I have seen great results as I have consulted with many less severe cases with microneedle and tca peels. Please read my FAQ to get a better under standing of microneedling and other procedures or provide proof why microneedling does not work if you are making a claim "it does not work." 

 Its kind of up to the people claiming it does work to provide proof of it doing so, so how about linking some threads that have pictures showing actual progress from microneedling?

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[skyesthelimit 46]

I'd say it really depends from person to person. I'm no professional and I'm only using one for DIY treatment. It doesn't work instantly or like magic but I do see some improvements. I guess it really depends on how your skin would react to the products and the process itself.

Stick to the ones which work for you.  

[beautifulambition 1919]

There is questionable material in this thread, as such it is now being locked down. It's starting to take a inciting tone, if you do not like microneedling don't do it. But it has worked for countless thousands.
1) We are not your Dr, Therapist, Preacher, Plastic Surgeon, nor do we prove anything. Goto them for this, it's what they are paid to deal with.
2) We have provided White papers by big medical studies providing all of the things we recommend, the contrarians can simply search for past posts and threads, white papers, conferences with panels talking about these treatments, and first hand experience, or research to prove all the treatments work. I have seen no official studies by the naysayers with any proof they do not work in a controlled environment other than mere "feelings." Please search on Google to provide such studies.
3) We do not provide pictures, that anything works here, that is not the purpose of this sub, it is to give advice to those who have scars, pictures can obtained by doctors who pay for such services. Pictures from controlled studies are much better in their fairness of results.
4) Dr's still offer microneedling and they are board certified in treatments.
5) If you have a reason to not "like" something, please share the thought behind that, simply stating it does not work, does nothing for the community or to hep others. Feelings, do little in acne scar treatments for effective results . 
6) Treatments do not work for all, different ones, work for different individuals and scar types. We only offer the treatments that have a history of working