Thanks hearts, this is very helpful. I appreciate the links very much. Interestingly, commenter 15 (in the same link you referred to commenter 14) claims that NAC helped clear up her acne. However, the comment about spotting concerns me because I already have a big problem with that. Im not entirely sure I would wait a full four months to try NAC, maybe I should just opt for taking a low dose a couple times a week, for added detoxifying benefits? Or would that variable dose mess things up even more? I hope Ill have good results once Ive been on a lower dose (and eventually off) of spiro soon as well!

 

Interesting hearts, thanks. If you've been taking this along with DIM, perhaps that's the key to your success? I've read of people taking liver support with DIM in several places but I have been too nervous to add anything else at this stage. However, I'm now thinking I might need to add NAC to see the full benefits of DIM?

Have you read or seen anything about NAC causing an initial breakout, I know liver detoxes can do so? What about taking NAC with inositol, would that be too much change to my glucose metabolism?

Thanks!

Yeah, I'm really not sure if it helped at all or not. I took it before DIM and it didn't affect my skin. If it made me break out (like an initial breakout) I would have stopped taking it. I don't think NAC/l-cysteine has "detox" side effects, at least it didn't for me. I take 500mg daily, but I think you can take up to 1600mg or something. Maybe if you take high doses you can experience detox symptoms.

I'm not sure if continuing to take l-cysteine post DIM is helping me keep on track, either! When I forget to take it I don't see a difference in my skin (no breakouts.)

I think you're right about not adding anything else at this point... it's too early to know if DIM alone will be enough. If at 4 months it's still not helping then you could add it as a last test with DIM. Though I think NAC/l-cysteine is awesome, how each individual reacts to each supplement is a mystery until they try it.

You might want to read this article about how NAC acts similarly to Metformin for women with PCOS. This is another article on the subject.

Here is a thread on Soul Cysters where a few women mention that they take both inositol and NAC together. Please note post #14 on there... she ditched metformin and spiro and feels much better on the other supplements! (: Here is another thread specifically about the subject. I also took inositol and l-cysteine together without a problem, well, except for the weight gain but I don't think that's because I was taking l-cysteine.

Hope that helps! (:

Well its a supplement called Accumax..contains Vit A/C/E and Bioresponse DIM. I get 80mg of DIM taking 4 capsule per day..they are expensive though and don't really wanna take 6 per day.

I'm starting to worry incase its having a negative effect..I've heard ovee time it could increase testosterone? I don't know if that's true and can't remember where I saw it! But I was considering buying a different kind of DIM which may be a cheaper alternative to what I take now.

Thanks hearts, this is very helpful. I appreciate the links very much. Interestingly, commenter 15 (in the same link you referred to commenter 14) claims that NAC helped clear up her acne. However, the comment about spotting concerns me because I already have a big problem with that. Im not entirely sure I would wait a full four months to try NAC, maybe I should just opt for taking a low dose a couple times a week, for added detoxifying benefits? Or would that variable dose mess things up even more? I hope Ill have good results once Ive been on a lower dose (and eventually off) of spiro soon as well!

Yeah, I saw that post... it's interesting that it helped her skin. Everyone's chemistry is so different, which is why it's so difficult to say what will work for someone and what won't!

I don't think a variable dose of NAC would hurt anything, but it might not be as effective as taking it consistently.

Is there anything that caused you to start spotting or has it always been a problem? Did NPC help with that? I just ask because I would get spotting sometimes when I started hormonal supplements but it wasn't as much of a concern to me as acne was. I resolved it until recently when I quit inositol, which screwed up my cycle again.

Well its a supplement called Accumax..contains Vit A/C/E and Bioresponse DIM. I get 80mg of DIM taking 4 capsule per day..they are expensive though and don't really wanna take 6 per day.

I'm starting to worry incase its having a negative effect..I've heard ovee time it could increase testosterone? I don't know if that's true and can't remember where I saw it! But I was considering buying a different kind of DIM which may be a cheaper alternative to what I take now.

Is it this supplement? If so I don't see anywhere it says "bio-response." I was also surprised to see that it has fillers like corn starch and sugar. That brand is incredibly expensive! $115 for 120 capsules?! D: That's super overpriced. You can get 80mg of DIM and a daily vitamin for way, way cheaper. No wonder you are discouraged about spending so much money! If I were you I would try a different brand and a multi-vitamin (make sure you get plenty of vitamin D) and see how it goes.

That link ain't showing up hearts, but I pay 55 for 120 capsules. I have no idea how to link in a reply, but it deffo says BioResponse DIMon my packet. But yeah I looked up a few brands and I can get a lot more of it in Nature's way? I don't know if anyone has experience with that one. I am just worried that I have took it for almost a year. Is it safe to take long term?

I recently have bought a sup with calcium and vitamin D since I have stopped dairy for the time being, it contains 10mg of zinc too and 300mg of Magnesium so we shall see how this works out!

That link ain't showing up hearts, but I pay 55 for 120 capsules. I have no idea how to link in a reply, but it deffo says BioResponse DIMon my packet. But yeah I looked up a few brands and I can get a lot more of it in Nature's way? I don't know if anyone has experience with that one. I am just worried that I have took it for almost a year. Is it safe to take long term?

I recently have bought a sup with calcium and vitamin D since I have stopped dairy for the time being, it contains 10mg of zinc too and 300mg of Magnesium so we shall see how this works out!

Weird, let me try to link it again: http://janeiredale.com/us/en/mineral-makeup/skin-accumax-supplement.htm

I took Nature's Way DIM Plus for over a year which cleared me up and I had no problems. As far as I know, DIM is safe to take long term unless you are pregnant.

Hi hearts,

The spotting was/is always linked with my times of bad skin rather than one specific acne treatment.

I thought things were improving but I got a new nodule yesterday . So far I've been on DIM for a month and have not seen any consistent results. Does it really help with more serious cases such as nodular acne? A lot of the reviews remark on it helping hormonal flare ups and don't mention more extreme cases.

I've added a fourth pill. I'm praying to God this is the finally kick that my skin needs.

 

That link ain't showing up hearts, but I pay £55 for 120 capsules. I have no idea how to link in a reply, but it deffo says BioResponse DIMon my packet. But yeah I looked up a few brands and I can get a lot more of it in Nature's way? I don't know if anyone has experience with that one. I am just worried that I have took it for almost a year. Is it safe to take long term?

I recently have bought a sup with calcium and vitamin D since I have stopped dairy for the time being, it contains 10mg of zinc too and 300mg of Magnesium so we shall see how this works out!

Weird, let me try to link it again: http://janeiredale.com/us/en/mineral-makeup/skin-accumax-supplement.htm

I took Nature's Way DIM Plus for over a year which cleared me up and I had no problems. As far as I know, DIM is safe to take long term unless you are pregnant.

Weird, let me try to link it again: http://janeiredale.com/us/en/mineral-makeup/skin-accumax-supplement.htm

I took Nature's Way DIM Plus for over a year which cleared me up and I had no problems. As far as I know, DIM is safe to take long term unless you are pregnant.

Yep that is it, but it's not got the bioresponse on it but it does say it on mine..Hmm. also that one is soooooo dear! I pay half that for 120 capsules.

Okay I'm glad Nature's Way helped you, that's the most reasonably priced I have found. But a part of me is wondering how well my liver functioning is.

MissSac17, I wonder if you need to just adjust your dose of DIM? Perhaps you should first try to wean down. Perhaps long-term DIM use has tipped the scales in the other direction, i.e. decreased estrogen too much. I think something similar happened to me with spiro, after long-term use my estrogen became too high, which creates a negative feedback loop and thereby increases acne. From what I've read, a lot of people go down to a maintenance dose on DIM, which likely helps prevent any new hormonal imbalance.

Just a guess.

 

 

Weird, let me try to link it again: http://janeiredale.com/us/en/mineral-makeup/skin-accumax-supplement.htm

I took Nature's Way DIM Plus for over a year which cleared me up and I had no problems. As far as I know, DIM is safe to take long term unless you are pregnant.

Yep that is it, but it's not got the bioresponse on it but it does say it on mine..Hmm. also that one is soooooo dear! I pay half that for 120 capsules.

Okay I'm glad Nature's Way helped you, that's the most reasonably priced I have found. But a part of me is wondering how well my liver functioning is.

Oh goodness really? So you think it's perhaps increasing my Oestrogen?

I'm totally at a loss at what to try to be honest, I am gutted my doctor does not think Accutane is necessary so won't refer me to a derm, when I feel that's what will help me.

I had a look at symptoms of oestrogen dominance, there are a couple things that ring true but not all. I don't usually bloated until a week before my period and I find during that week or even two weeks before it I experience acne symptoms and anxiety...my moods honestly are terrible and they have been getting worse as each month passes, this had been happening since May. Each subsequent month has resulted in me becoming a depressed, suicidal hermit! And I ain't exaggerating.

My moods actually terrify me as I am being more angry now. Is obviously hormonal and am not sure what to do.

MissSac17, before you freak out about not getting on accutane, remember you did say DIM had helped you. Try for one month lowering your DIM dose by half and adding liver support like NAC. Perhaps your liver needs extra support to get rid of excess estrogens. Also, note that lots of people go to a maintenance dose on DIM. I think you should try this but I'm not a doctor, just a 15-year-long-acne-sufferer. This might not work but I think logically it makes sense. If you do try it, keep a journal and update us on this forum.

Oh goodness really? So you think it's perhaps increasing my Oestrogen?

I'm totally at a loss at what to try to be honest, I am gutted my doctor does not think Accutane is necessary so won't refer me to a derm, when I feel that's what will help me.

I had a look at symptoms of oestrogen dominance, there are a couple things that ring true but not all. I don't usually bloated until a week before my period and I find during that week or even two weeks before it I experience acne symptoms and anxiety...my moods honestly are terrible and they have been getting worse as each month passes, this had been happening since May. Each subsequent month has resulted in me becoming a depressed, suicidal hermit! And I ain't exaggerating.

My moods actually terrify me as I am being more angry now. Is obviously hormonal and am not sure what to do.

Hey I am not a big fan of medicinal ingredients but there have been no studies linked to birth defects and DIM, including the one I'm taking. I contacted the manufacturer and they assured me that it's ok to take for a few months and only half the minimum dosage. I've only been taking one capsule every other day and my midwife constantly monitors me to make sure everything is ok with me and baby. DIM is natural, so I don't see what harm it will do. I have done my research and I wouldn't take it if I didn't feel it was safe or my doctor advised against it. She told me it was fine as long as I did what the manufacturer said - take only one capsule per day and stop after a few months then go back on for a little after my pregnancy if the acne started back up again. I don't smoke or drink or do any drugs, never have never will, I am an extremely healthy person I eat well, I take my daily vitamins and I exercise and get sunshine daily. I would think it would be different if I didn't take care of myself so well, but my doctor assured me I would have no problems. In 3 weeks since taking DIM my acne is officially gone. I haven't had one pimple in about a week or more, and my red marks from the previous pimples are fading and my skin is glowing. Thanks for the advice but I am not going to endanger my baby. I am going to stop taking the DIM at the end of the month.

Hey brenmc. Yes I am from Canada. I order mine from [removed]. They upped their prices to $42 a bottle but it's so worth it. The shipping is free. It comes from Las Vegas but I usually get my DIM in a few days. This time it only took 5 days from the day I ordered it!

As to your other question, I am not sure what type of acne she had. I don't think it was nodular or cystic, that is more severe. Hers was more of a moderate acne where as mine is mild. I looked those up and apparently I've never even been close to having cystic acne so I don't know why I posted that in this topic lol. I think I was confused as to what it was. But now I know my acne is very mild, so that's probably why the DIM works so fast and well. It is week 3 of taking it and my skin is completely clear, back to normal. No new pimples in over a week, and no new breakouts in over 2 weeks. Right now I'm just trying to keep my skin clean and fade the post acne marks which are just tiny pink marks. Hopefully I can go makeup free again soon! Good luck to you and let me know how everything is going!