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I Figured Out Why Lactoferrin And Betaine Hcl Are Causing Major Breakouts

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Posted : 11/15/2014 11:32 pm

Several people have posted on here and other forums that starting to take lactoferrin or starting to take betaine hcl made their acne worse rather than better.

The same thing happened to me even though I was absolutely sure both of those supplements were going to end my acne. My acne has just been getting worse and worse.

I just figured it out tonight - I have been experiencing candida die off from the lactoferrin, and adding the betaine hcl is also likely causing candida to die off, and so that must be why my skin has been getting worse rather than better.

One thing that was perplexing me was that the acne is around my mouth and on my chin, and when I cover it up with whatever (most recently I've been using crushed aspirin mixed with fuller's earth, chlorella and water as a spot treatment, which works pretty well), the rest of my skin looks fabulous and clear. It is also strange acne, clustering in places so it looks even more awful than just a random spot here and there.

So I have ordered Thorne Research, Formula SF722, 250 Gelcaps and will report back here once they arrive and I start taking them.

I sincerely hope this helps people out there.

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Posted : 11/18/2014 11:08 am

I thought I should report that my skin appears to be finally clearing up. I always hate to say that because I have suffered from acne for most of my life and like many people can probably relate, as soon as you begin to celebrate your skin clearing up, it starts to break out again. However, I know when I started taking the lactoferrin and then the betaine hcl and my skin kept getting worse, I was looking for answers to see if other people had hung in there and found relief.

I had also taken some higher doses of vitamin A (25,000 IUs - 50,000 IUs for a few days) because I can't take it when I have to go out looking like that, and I wanted to make sure it wasn't just the vitamin A that was clearing up my skin. Normally I take 10,000 IUs a day or try to even skip a day because I read that greater than 5,000 IUs a day can prevent iron absorption.

Extremely low iron (6) is what got my skin into this mess in the first place because I started taking iron supplements. This is just a guess but I think the iron I was taking contributed to candida and then my acne started getting bad and was appearing in weird places. Then I stopped taking iron and started lactoferrin and the acne got worse (I'm guessing candida die off), and then when added betaine hcl, it got even worse still (hcl causes candida to die too).

My skin is a lot better as of today. My skin still feels a bit oily though. Maybe this will give someone hope who is trying lactoferrin and/or betaine hcl.

My sleep has also improved since taking the betaine hcl - I started using the low stomach acid test method by taking one a day with high protein meals and got up to 7. I stopped at 7. I only take them in the middle of the meal because of a bad experience years ago.

I was taking 7 caps of Natural Factors betaine hcl with fenugreek (no pepsin) and 1 digestive enzyme with a high protein meal.

I then bought Now betaine hcl with pepsin and went to 5 caps of the Natural factors plus 2 caps of Now and 1 digestive enzyme.

I now have added 1 capsule of Renew Life Digestmore HCL digestive enzymes with butyric acid (and have ordered butyric acid alone from iherb (PEY561), I will update about it later once I've tried it) instead of regular digestive enzymes.

If I have a lighter meal or one with not much protein, I only take 1 capsule of each, again in the middle of the meal, never ever at the end. That can cause heartburn or even burn your esophagus, I learned that the hard way years ago. (So 1 betaine hcl, 1 betaine hcl with pepsin, and 1 Digestmore hcl with butyric acid).

I should mention that I eat as healthily as possible and have for years - no gluten and never cheat, I try to limit grains, I never drink pop, drink lots of water, often with lemon, I buy almost all organic, juice vegetables almost every day, make kefir from raw goat's milk, and have added salmon to my diet because I no longer believe being vegetarian is healthy (I just do not like meat and have not eaten it since I was a child, but I can hide salmon in things and try not to think about it). I also try to eat only heatlhy fats - butter or ghee, coconut oil or red palm oil (from places where it does not affect orangutans), and some olive oil, but olive oil is a difficult one. I don't buy salad dressings anymore, just make my own. My only vices are coffee and dark chocolate.

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Posted : 02/03/2015 6:32 am

how is it all going? can you give us an update? thank you!

I thought I should report that my skin appears to be finally clearing up. I always hate to say that because I have suffered from acne for most of my life and like many people can probably relate, as soon as you begin to celebrate your skin clearing up, it starts to break out again. However, I know when I started taking the lactoferrin and then the betaine hcl and my skin kept getting worse, I was looking for answers to see if other people had hung in there and found relief.

I had also taken some higher doses of vitamin A (25,000 IUs - 50,000 IUs for a few days) because I can't take it when I have to go out looking like that, and I wanted to make sure it wasn't just the vitamin A that was clearing up my skin. Normally I take 10,000 IUs a day or try to even skip a day because I read that greater than 5,000 IUs a day can prevent iron absorption.

Extremely low iron (6) is what got my skin into this mess in the first place because I started taking iron supplements. This is just a guess but I think the iron I was taking contributed to candida and then my acne started getting bad and was appearing in weird places. Then I stopped taking iron and started lactoferrin and the acne got worse (I'm guessing candida die off), and then when added betaine hcl, it got even worse still (hcl causes candida to die too).

My skin is a lot better as of today. My skin still feels a bit oily though. Maybe this will give someone hope who is trying lactoferrin and/or betaine hcl.

My sleep has also improved since taking the betaine hcl - I started using the low stomach acid test method by taking one a day with high protein meals and got up to 7. I stopped at 7. I only take them in the middle of the meal because of a bad experience years ago.

I was taking 7 caps of Natural Factors betaine hcl with fenugreek (no pepsin) and 1 digestive enzyme with a high protein meal.

I then bought Now betaine hcl with pepsin and went to 5 caps of the Natural factors plus 2 caps of Now and 1 digestive enzyme.

I now have added 1 capsule of Renew Life Digestmore HCL digestive enzymes with butyric acid (and have ordered butyric acid alone from iherb (PEY561), I will update about it later once I've tried it) instead of regular digestive enzymes.

If I have a lighter meal or one with not much protein, I only take 1 capsule of each, again in the middle of the meal, never ever at the end. That can cause heartburn or even burn your esophagus, I learned that the hard way years ago. (So 1 betaine hcl, 1 betaine hcl with pepsin, and 1 Digestmore hcl with butyric acid).

I should mention that I eat as healthily as possible and have for years - no gluten and never cheat, I try to limit grains, I never drink pop, drink lots of water, often with lemon, I buy almost all organic, juice vegetables almost every day, make kefir from raw goat's milk, and have added salmon to my diet because I no longer believe being vegetarian is healthy (I just do not like meat and have not eaten it since I was a child, but I can hide salmon in things and try not to think about it). I also try to eat only heatlhy fats - butter or ghee, coconut oil or red palm oil (from places where it does not affect orangutans), and some olive oil, but olive oil is a difficult one. I don't buy salad dressings anymore, just make my own. My only vices are coffee and dark chocolate.

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Posted : 02/03/2015 12:08 pm

After a while of taking the betaine HCL and lactoferrin, my skin cleared up almost completely. Since this time, I've also come to the conclusion that I have a biofilm problem (lactoferrin kills biofilm), especially since I've had a candida problem for over twenty years (thanks dermatologist for putting me on tetracycline as a teen, you set me up for a lifetime of agony!) I think the iron I was taking fed the biofilm as well. I had a feeling that if I was just patient, it would do that. I really had to be patient though, because my skin was a mess and both of these things seemed to be making the breakouts much, much worse.

I have to stress though that I do not eat junk food or wheat flour and I never drink anything with sugar in it (and no artificial sweeteners). I do eat GF flour but I try to limit that too because it's not great for you. I work out every day, and that might be helping too. And I drink lots of water with lemon. And I lovvvvve liquid chorophyll and have a bit with lemon and water every morning. Because I hate taking iron and don't eat meat (I haven't kept up the salmon, I just do not like meat or fish) I have an iron problem and I think the liquid chlorophyll is helping. My iron has gone from 6 to 24 and now 26. Not great, but better. I think the biofilm could also be why I have such low iron.

I am taking a bunch of things to get rid of the candida and biofilm, but that said, I can't get myself off of chocolate, so it has not been completely effective: I'm taking Biofilm Defense (1), Thorne's SF722 (5 caps, 1-2 times per day) together with bacillus coagulans, NAC (have gone up to 2 caps and take with vitamin C). I've stopped the lactoferrin only because I was on it for several months.

My naturopath would like me to take Nystatin, and I'm thinking about it.

I really can't recommend lactoferrin enough though, or betaine HCL if you have low stomach acid. Lactoferrin helps with iron levels and infections as well. I had a badly infected toe and a doctor told me I HAD to take antibiotics or I could lose the toe or my foot. I have been trying for twenty years to get over the antibiotics I was given years ago, so I did not want to do that. I figured since I had just started taking lactoferrin, I would see if that would help and it did. Within a week, the infection (from a sliver that a previous doctor could not get out) was gone. I did use colloidal silver too, but I believe it was the lactoferrin that really helped. Lactoferrin is impossible to find in Canada, I get it from iherb (PEY561).

I'm not sure if the butyric acid is doing anything, but it doesn't seem to be hurting and it's not expensive so I'm going to keep taking it. It kills candida too.

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Posted : 02/26/2015 1:16 am

Update: After taking a multitude of expensive products to rid myself of candida and biofilm, I feel like I'm spinning my wheels. Someone suggested it's because I have amalgams. And I do - I have lots of amalgam fillings. So I have decided that instead of continuing with the most expensive products (Biofilm Defense - $46 and Thorne SF722 along with bacillus coagulans), I will temporarily suspend my plan until I get my amalgams out because otherwise the candida is just going to keep coming back no matter what I do. I'm going to take Vitacost Yst Management instead to keep things under control until that happens.

The reason I'm updating on here is that as soon as I stopped these two products, I could tell my chin was going to break out with cystic acne... BUT...for the past week I have been doing coffee enemas followed by a yogurt enema. It's the first time in my life I've tried this. So get this - I woke up about two mornings after I stopped the Biofilm Defense and SF722 with the beginnings of cystic acne on my chin - four - and took a 25,000 IU vitamin A, and then in the evening continued with my coffee and yogurt enemas (separately, I did not mix the coffee with the yogurt), and they went away - my chin did not break out AT ALL. I only took the vitamin A one day as I'm very reluctant to keep that up and take it only as a last resort measure when I am desperate.

If I had known coffee enemas were this good for the skin I would have done them decades ago. I'm going to keep doing the coffee and yogurt enemas. They're really not that uncomfortable and the other amazing thing is that my skin is absolutely glowing. This is a common side effect of glutathione, according to testimonials I have read online. Coffee enemas stimulate the liver to produce more glutathione because the coffee gets immediately absorbed through the colon into the liver. Plus I've been opening a glutathione capsule and adding a bit to both the coffee and yogurt.

I don't have an enema bag, I just have a giant syringe type thing that doesn't hold much at all, but it's better than nothing. I'll get some proper equipment soon but I don't want a plastic bucket and the metal ones are very expensive. I may try to rig something up with a glass jar.

Since I know some of you may want to know exactly what I'm doing, I've been doing a water only enema to start and don't hold it very long (I buy spring water so I use that). I then do 2 to 3 coffee enemas and hold each one for 15 minutes (I buy light roast organic coffee and put the grounds into spring water in a pot on the stove. There are instructions on Youtube for this. After the coffee is simmered for five minutes, I filter it through a brown paper filter. Make sure you cool the coffee before you do the enema! This is VERY important). I then mix homemade yogurt with water and do an enema with that (I make it according to the SCD 24 hour yogurt instructions with the 3 bacteria from Yogourmet).

I'm still taking the NAC because it boosts glutathione too, and I'm going to keep taking the betaine HCL, pepsin, and butyric acid with meals because I obviously need those very badly.

If you have any other questions, just post them below. [Edited out forum name]

I will update again after I have my amalgams removed and continue with the candida killing supplements.

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Posted : 02/26/2015 2:27 am

Have you thought about the possibility that the microbe causing your acne is living in your nose? You mention you are perplexed by your mouth and chin acne. That's right below your nose and where you exhale :-)

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Posted : 02/27/2015 6:28 pm

Healthy Almonds,

I have never heard of that before. I was just thinking about it and don't think that is necessarily the problem. When I have digestive issues, my skin gets a lot oilier and that's what seems to cause the break outs.

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Posted : 05/26/2015 9:12 am

 

I was on strong antibiotics for months last year and since then have been plagued with all sorts of health problems, low stomach acid, hypothyroidism, severe bloating, acne/itchy lumps etc. This has led me to believe bacteria and yeast may be an issue. I recently got hold of several different antimicrobial/antifungal herbs and biofilm disruptors, lactoferrin included. Would you be able to post an update on how things are going and what combo is working for you? Thanks.

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Posted : 05/27/2015 3:39 pm

Yeah I think my most recent breakout could be from taking probiotics and and candida support from NOW foods. I hadnt had cystic activity in months especially in the spots that it appeared. It sucks when they clump in in one spot. Every spot i got the past 2 weeks started as two little bumps and then over the week they would join and become a deep cyst. Luckily most of them cleared up pretty quick but i have one on the jaw/neck/ that is taking longer than the others, its pretty deep under the skin. Whats odd is since I took those probiotcs and the candida support my Sebborehic dermatitis on my scalp is gone, also the light breakout activity I had on my shoulders back and chest are NON EXISTENT, completley clear. I also must state that my diet is extremly clean. I have really only been eating chicken, brocccoli, and sweet potatoes and drinkning water. Been taking 2 digestive enzyme capsules with meals as well as a multivitamin, d3 and curcumin extract. I feel like im slowly starting to figure this all out but it has taken me nearly 8 years to pin down what routine I should follow. I dont wash my face other than in the shower, my problems are internal and putting numerous chemicals on my face isnt the asnwer. Im just glad Ive got my seb derm under control with diet and supplments, it really proves to me that the acne/cyst problem is also closely related to the processes inside my body since they showed up nearly at the same time. Keep fighting the good fight.

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Posted : 08/04/2015 11:55 am

Update

Sorry this has been so long in coming. I stopped taking the lactoferrin for a while, found out I only have one amalgam which will come out in September, and stopped the whole biofilm/candida killing protocol with the exception of taking 1 cap of Yst Management at night on an empty stomach. I thought I had lots of amalgams and figured there was no point in taking the SF722 and other biofilm killing products until they're all gone because someone told me that's what helped her candida - getting rid of all of her amalgams.

While I eat pretty cleanly, as soon as I introduce grains like GF crackers or GF bagels (I'm gluten intolerant, not celiac), my face starts to break out around my mouth. This last week I went on a Kinnickkinnick GF bagel rampage (ate not quite one bagel a day for about a week), and within a few days I was breaking out even more, with a big pimple on my forehead, and I almost never break out there. I can even put coconut oil on my forehead and not break out typically, so this has got to be the bagels.

I've even tried increasing the number of betaine HCL caps with each meal because they should help due to increasing digestion and killing candida, and while it definitely helps my digestion, my skin is still breaking out. Apparently if we have enough stomach acid, it kills excess candida. I have very low stomach acid, probably from not eating meat since I was a child. Eat meat people! As long as it's ethically raised.

So, I'm still struggling, still trying to find out what works, but I just found out about this below and want to share because I know many more people are struggling out there too:

http://paleoforwomen.com/topical-probiotics-can-applying-bacteria-to-your-face-cure-your-acne/#comment-187634

Another interesting post on kefir masks:

https://shawnandnan.wordpress.com/2012/07/09/best-recent-discovery-kefir-facial/comment-page-1/

In short, you can put kefir on your face and these people say it helps clear up acne! I make kefir already but didn't think to put it on my face. I will do this every day for a while and report back, I promise. I just tried it now and it's kind of hard to get the kefir to stay on, but it made my skin super soft. The blogger in the second post said it cleared her chin acne after the first time.

I also read a post somewhere by a lady who helped her son with lots of fish oil and colostrum. I've been trying those for a couple of weeks now and am still breaking out, but they may be helping a little.

Btw, my skin was great last year until I took iron supplements. Don't take iron supplements! Take liquid chlorophyll and lactoferrin instead!

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Posted : 08/07/2015 1:15 am

Update Aug 6 2 days of kefir masks, 2x per day

 

After two days of putting kefir on my face, at night I've been leaving it on all night, my spots have been disappearing. This morning I had about one or two new spots but by tonight they've gotten smaller.

 

HOWEVER, another thing I'm trying that I started last night was using animal fat on my face. It's a bit terrifying, but I've been reading about it on several blogs, and people have said that not only did it clear their acne, it took years off.

 

Since I make chicken broth regularly and scoop off and throw out the fat, I decided to render some, which just means heat it in a pot and pour it through a coffee filter, and then use it as a moisturizer and mix it with a little castor oil and do the oil method for washing my face. As I said, I'm terrified that it may break me out as some people find it takes a few weeks for their skin to adjust to the oil method, but the spot on my forehead has almost completely flattened and the rest of my skin is looking good.

 

The blogs I've read have mentioned using suet from cows or lamb, but since I make chicken broth, that's what I'm trying for now. I know it sounds crazy, but if you think about it, this is what women used in the past before all of the vegetable oil skin products.

 

I'm going to continue to do the kefir masks too since they make sense that they would clear up acne. Will keep you all posted.

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Posted : 08/07/2015 6:58 am

i had terrible terrible candida and the cleanses from Renew Life totally took care of it - i took paragone, then candigone which are both 2 week antifungal herbal things and i also took candizyme which is their biofilm disrupter. this stuff works! i had massive die off but it totally got rid of everything. i also took their probiotics (ultimate flora).... stupid antibiotics seriously messed me up and it took me so long to figure out how to fix all the damage.... this was all back in march

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Posted : 08/08/2015 12:57 pm

i had terrible terrible candida and the cleanses from Renew Life totally took care of it - i took paragone, then candigone which are both 2 week antifungal herbal things and i also took candizyme which is their biofilm disrupter. this stuff works! i had massive die off but it totally got rid of everything. i also took their probiotics (ultimate flora).... stupid antibiotics seriously messed me up and it took me so long to figure out how to fix all the damage.... this was all back in march

 

 

Thanks glb2130, did you find it helped your skin? Did you do the stomach acid test? You take one cap of betaine hcl with a large meal the first day, two the second, three the third, and keep going until you feel a warmth or burning sensation in your stomach, then stop at that number. I got up to seven and my naturopath said I have very low stomach acid. I can take 10 with a meal and not feel a thing, except for improved digestion. The reason I ask is I have read that if we have normal stomach acid, it kills the excess candida. I know you said you took antibiotics, so that might be the only issue, but I've been trying to get over the antibiotics I took well over 20 years ago and sometimes wonder if I'm just spinning my wheels.

 

Update: I am freakin terrified about the oil cleansing method. Last night I really wanted to wash my face to clean it so I used charcoal/bamboo soap bar and followed with witch hazel. This morning I have a few spots.

 

Could someone please give me some advice around the oil cleansing method? What do you do when you just want to wash your face?

 

I'm not sure whether I want to give it a valiant effort (using animal fat tallow and castor oil) and risk breaking out for a while or if I want to use charcoal soap plus witch hazel, but I can see how interrupting the sebum is creating a vicious circle.

 

As far as animal fat is concerned, though, the more I read about animal fats used as moisturizers, the more I'm sold on them. Check out this article here:

 

https://nourishingourchildren.wordpress.com/2015/03/01/tallow-balm/

 

 

Check this picture out:

 

 

So in the past, people used lamb tallow as a skin cleanser. Maybe I shouldn't be so afraid! I think I'll try to start a new topic on cleansing with animal tallow, please follow over there if you're interested or have information to share.

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Posted : 08/08/2015 1:16 pm

 

i had terrible terrible candida and the cleanses from Renew Life totally took care of it - i took paragone, then candigone which are both 2 week antifungal herbal things and i also took candizyme which is their biofilm disrupter. this stuff works! i had massive die off but it totally got rid of everything. i also took their probiotics (ultimate flora).... stupid antibiotics seriously messed me up and it took me so long to figure out how to fix all the damage.... this was all back in march

 

 

Thanks glb2130, did you find it helped your skin? Did you do the stomach acid test? You take one cap of betaine hcl with a large meal the first day, two the second, three the third, and keep going until you feel a warmth or burning sensation in your stomach, then stop at that number. I got up to seven and my naturopath said I have very low stomach acid. I can take 10 with a meal and not feel a thing, except for improved digestion. The reason I ask is I have read that if we have normal stomach acid, it kills the excess candida. I know you said you took antibiotics, so that might be the only issue, but I've been trying to get over the antibiotics I took well over 20 years ago and sometimes wonder if I'm just spinning my wheels.

 

Update: I am freakin terrified about the oil cleansing method. Last night I really wanted to wash my face to clean it so I used charcoal/bamboo soap bar and followed with witch hazel. This morning I have a few spots.

 

Could someone please give me some advice around the oil cleansing method? What do you do when you just want to wash your face?

 

I'm not sure whether I want to give it a valiant effort (using animal fat tallow and castor oil) and risk breaking out for a while or if I want to use charcoal soap plus witch hazel, but I can see how interrupting the sebum is creating a vicious circle.

 

As far as animal fat is concerned, though, the more I read about animal fats used as moisturizers, the more I'm sold on them. Check out this article here:

 

https://nourishingourchildren.wordpress.com/2015/03/01/tallow-balm/

 

 

Check this picture out:

 

 

So in the past, people used lamb tallow as a skin cleanser. Maybe I shouldn't be so afraid! I think I'll try to start a new topic on cleansing with animal tallow, please follow over there if you're interested or have information to share.

well i had 2 different kinds of acne going on,,, i had my "candida" acne, and then i have my stubborn hormonal acne. if you really do have candida over growth into your blood stream you'll feel like absolute shit. i honestly didn't know what was happening with my body because like an idiot i just took the antibiotics from my derm like they were candy, and i had no knowledge about health or how damaging antibiotics can be. the renew life antifungals did get rid of my candida acne! when my candida was bad i felt horrible with insomnia and anxiety etc. i also had really bad bloating, digestive problems and heartburn but after the cleanses and lots of probiotics , now i don't have any digestive issues and all of those problems are completely gone! my acne now is just my stubborn hormonal acne and not related to any leaky gut/candida stuff at all. the renew life products literally saved my life. they reccomend you do the cleanses in that order- paragone and then candigone (both work for candida but paragone is considered stronger) they're really strong cleanses. you should read the reviews on amazon. also take the candizyme biofilm disrupter. !!! works amazing.

 

i think that taking rounds of antibiotics lowers stomach acid because it's the good bacteria in your gut that keep your stomach , gut , intestines healthy and keep your stomach acid at a normal level. antibiotics kill of the good guys and lower your stomach acid, letting candida overgrow.

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Posted : 08/11/2015 12:37 am

Update: The oil cleansing method isn't really working for me because I really like the feeling of washing my face, but cleansing with bar soap then witch hazel and then putting a bit of kefir either all over or just in problem areas is.

 

I think it's the kefir. If I get more confident with the oil cleansing method I will keep trying it, but for now, I just don't trust it.

 

Hope this helps people out there.

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Posted : 08/13/2015 3:06 pm

Another update:

 

I'm updating because I'm having success and I know there are lots of people suffering out there, so I want people to know what is working for me.

 

I have stopped the oil cleansing completely and am washing my face (with charcoal soap, but I don't think that is what is helping), and then using witch hazel, and then morning and night putting kefir on my problem areas.

 

This is working very well, so far no spots (pimples). I do still take betaine hcl and digestive enzymes with every meal and try to limit grains and sugar, but I'm not perfect. I also try not to eat packaged foods and never eat junk food.

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Posted : 08/14/2015 3:56 pm

On 8/4/2015 at 10:55 PM, monroe444 said:

Update

Sorry this has been so long in coming. I stopped taking the lactoferrin for a while, found out I only have one amalgam which will come out in September, and stopped the whole biofilm/candida killing protocol with the exception of taking 1 cap of Yst Management at night on an empty stomach. I thought I had lots of amalgams and figured there was no point in taking the SF722 and other biofilm killing products until they're all gone because someone told me that's what helped her candida - getting rid of all of her amalgams.

While I eat pretty cleanly, as soon as I introduce grains like GF crackers or GF bagels (I'm gluten intolerant, not celiac), my face starts to break out around my mouth. This last week I went on a Kinnickkinnick GF bagel rampage (ate not quite one bagel a day for about a week), and within a few days I was breaking out even more, with a big pimple on my forehead, and I almost never break out there. I can even put coconut oil on my forehead and not break out typically, so this has got to be the bagels.

I've even tried increasing the number of betaine HCL caps with each meal because they should help due to increasing digestion and killing candida, and while it definitely helps my digestion, my skin is still breaking out. Apparently if we have enough stomach acid, it kills excess candida. I have very low stomach acid, probably from not eating meat since I was a child. Eat meat people! As long as it's ethically raised.

So, I'm still struggling, still trying to find out what works, but I just found out about this below and want to share because I know many more people are struggling out there too:

http://paleoforwomen.com/topical-probiotics-can-applying-bacteria-to-your-face-cure-your-acne/#comment-187634

Another interesting post on kefir masks:

https://shawnandnan.wordpress.com/2012/07/09/best-recent-discovery-kefir-facial/comment-page-1/

In short, you can put kefir on your face and these people say it helps clear up acne! I make kefir already but didn't think to put it on my face. I will do this every day for a while and report back, I promise. I just tried it now and it's kind of hard to get the kefir to stay on, but it made my skin super soft. The blogger in the second post said it cleared her chin acne after the first time.

I also read a post somewhere by a lady who helped her son with lots of fish oil and colostrum. I've been trying those for a couple of weeks now and am still breaking out, but they may be helping a little.

Btw, my skin was great last year until I took iron supplements. Don't take iron supplements! Take liquid chlorophyll and lactoferrin instead!

Acne takes 2+ months to form so, it is a process, and does not happen in a couple of days. Sorry. It was already there (clogged pores). Kefir is probiotics for your gut, what that means is that it is beneficial for gut flora. Your skin bacteria and gut bacteria is two COMPLETELY different things. If probiotics would help in acne it would be long-term as it might help to balance hormones and your body in general because it is good for your immune system. Not because it fights some acne bacteria on your face. If you believe this then you do not understand that process that is acne.

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Posted : 12/12/2015 4:50 pm

I have to post an update and something I think I just figured out.

Since I last posted, I've been breaking out more and more. I thought it was because I went back to school (I'm in a grad program) and under more stress.

I was wondering why my skin was so good earlier this year and now it's getting worse and worse. I was just googling about herbs to clean the blood and remembered that I used to take Essiac tea and stopped a few months ago when I got busy with school. I then googled Essiac and acne and apparently it really helps!

I've also found that making bovine colostrum into a paste and applying it to breakouts can have very rapid results, even better than kefir.

If you have something negative to say, please go somewhere else. I'm just trying to help people by sharing my findings.

 

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Posted : 02/05/2019 10:40 pm

On 8/4/2015 at 10:55 PM, monroe444 said:

Update

 

Sorry this has been so long in coming. I stopped taking the lactoferrin for a while, found out I only have one amalgam which will come out in September, and stopped the whole biofilm/candida killing protocol with the exception of taking 1 cap of Yst Management at night on an empty stomach. I thought I had lots of amalgams and figured there was no point in taking the SF722 and other biofilm killing products until they're all gone because someone told me that's what helped her candida - getting rid of all of her amalgams.

 

While I eat pretty cleanly, as soon as I introduce grains like GF crackers or GF bagels (I'm gluten intolerant, not celiac), my face starts to break out around my mouth. This last week I went on a Kinnickkinnick GF bagel rampage (ate not quite one bagel a day for about a week), and within a few days I was breaking out even more, with a big pimple on my forehead, and I almost never break out there. I can even put coconut oil on my forehead and not break out typically, so this has got to be the bagels.

 

I've even tried increasing the number of betaine HCL caps with each meal because they should help due to increasing digestion and killing candida, and while it definitely helps my digestion, my skin is still breaking out. Apparently if we have enough stomach acid, it kills excess candida. I have very low stomach acid, probably from not eating meat since I was a child. Eat meat people! As long as it's ethically raised.

 

So, I'm still struggling, still trying to find out what works, but I just found out about this below and want to share because I know many more people are struggling out there too:

 

http://paleoforwomen.com/topical-probiotics-can-applying-bacteria-to-your-face-cure-your-acne/#comment-187634

 

Another interesting post on kefir masks:

 

https://shawnandnan.wordpress.com/2012/07/09/best-recent-discovery-kefir-facial/comment-page-1/

 

In short, you can put kefir on your face and these people say it helps clear up acne! I make kefir already but didn't think to put it on my face. I will do this every day for a while and report back, I promise. I just tried it now and it's kind of hard to get the kefir to stay on, but it made my skin super soft. The blogger in the second post said it cleared her chin acne after the first time.

 

I also read a post somewhere by a lady who helped her son with lots of fish oil and colostrum. I've been trying those for a couple of weeks now and am still breaking out, but they may be helping a little.

 

Btw, my skin was great last year until I took iron supplements. Don't take iron supplements! Take liquid chlorophyll and lactoferrin instead!

Its been quite sometime since you posted this. Irelate very closeto the experiences you have shared. Imwonderingif you were able to finally figure things out?Especially as it relates to amalgams.

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