i rmemberd i had posted something, went and looked for my name, by doing Ctrl + F, and then saw that you had replied to it, and i replied back, and i can assure you, i did not read your whole long post.

 

I wasn't implying that I didn't believe your claim about not reading my entire post; I was implying that I found it ironic that you took the time to reply twice (now three times) but wouldn't take the time to read my entire post.

i rmemberd i had posted something, went and looked for my name, by doing Ctrl + F, and then saw that you had replied to it, and i replied back, and i can assure you, i did not read your whole long post.

 

 

I wasn't implying that I didn't believe your claim about not reading my entire post; I was implying that I found it ironic that you took the time to reply twice (now three times) but wouldn't take the time to read my entire post.

 

ill tell u why, firstly I dont need to read all that to treat acne, i wouldnt even remember all of it anyways, i just wash my face, and apply moisturizer, thats my regimen and its working well

cheers

i rmemberd i had posted something, went and looked for my name, by doing Ctrl + F, and then saw that you had replied to it, and i replied back, and i can assure you, i did not read your whole long post.

 

 

I wasn't implying that I didn't believe your claim about not reading my entire post; I was implying that I found it ironic that you took the time to reply twice (now three times) but wouldn't take the time to read my entire post.

 

 

 

ill tell u why, firstly I dont need to read all that to treat acne, i wouldnt even remember all of it anyways, i just wash my face, and apply moisturizer, thats my regimen and its working well

 

cheers

 

Well, this thread is meant for people that still need to find an effective acne regimen or who are interested in treating acne, and I hope they do take the time to read it and learn some beneficial information.

I'm glad your regimen is working for you.

hey Snow Queen, thanks for your post sounds interesting..

i just started using 'Simple Pure soap' that does not contain fragrance, unecessary additives and colours. plz look at the imgredients. I use it as my cleanser, and makeup remover.

This is the ingredients taken from the package:

Sodium Tallowate, Sodium Cocoate, Aqua, Sodium Palm Kernelate, Glycerin, Sodium Chloride, Tetrasodium EDTA, Etidronic Acid

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How does that sound thanks

hey Snow Queen, thanks for your post sounds interesting..

i just started using 'Simple Pure soap' that does not contain fragrance, unecessary additives and colours. plz look at the imgredients. I use it as my cleanser, and makeup remover.

This is the ingredients taken from the package:

Sodium Tallowate, Sodium Cocoate, Aqua, Sodium Palm Kernelate, Glycerin, Sodium Chloride, Tetrasodium EDTA, Etidronic Acid

Pure Bar Soap 150g x 2

Simple Soap

Pure soap

'If you want a soap that doesn't irritate then our Pure Soap is for you.

Suitable for the whole family its mild formula gently cleanses leaving your skin feeling refreshed.

Dermatologically Tested'

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How does that sound thanks

sorry for the double reply

acne1989 said:

hey Snow Queen, thanks for your post sounds interesting..

i just started using 'Simple Pure soap' that does not contain fragrance, unecessary additives and colours. plz look at the imgredients. I use it as my cleanser, and makeup remover.

This is the ingredients taken from the package:

Sodium Tallowate, Sodium Cocoate, Aqua, Sodium Palm Kernelate, Glycerin, Sodium Chloride, Tetrasodium EDTA, Etidronic Acid

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How does that sound thanks

Pure Bar Soap 150g x 2

Simple Soap

Pure soap

'If you want a soap that doesn't irritate then our Pure Soap is for you.

Suitable for the whole family its mild formula gently cleanses leaving your skin feeling refreshed.

Dermatologically Tested'

These three ingredients are what concern me:

Sodium Tallowate- can potentially clog pores

Sodium Cocoate - irritating cleansing agent

Sodium Palm Kernelate- irritating cleansing agent

Also, soap typically has an alkaline pH, which can increase bacteria in the skin. Liquid cleansers are usually better for the skin than bar cleansers.

Don't believe the claims on packages stating that a product is gentle; these aren't regulated and can be put on anything.

awwww. but i am still goin 2 continue with it..... at least its not like other cleansers and washes that have worser ingredients & twice or even three times as much ingredients. So yerr, ill tell ya how it goes. Ive researched and searched so many websites to find a new cleanser last week. Most had to many ingredients and others had SLS or either SLES. And this is the best product i found so far. Also lots of pepz use bakign soda to mask/scrub and i heard its alkaline to. Thanx for replying

acne1989 said:

awwww. but i am still goin 2 continue with it..... at least its not like other cleansers and washes that have worser ingredients & twice or even three times as much ingredients. So yerr, ill tell ya how it goes. Ive researched and searched so many websites to find a new cleanser last week. Most had to many ingredients and others had SLS or either SLES. And this is the best product i found so far. Also lots of pepz use bakign soda to mask/scrub and i heard its alkaline to. Thanx for replying

Suit yourself, but really you'd be much better off finding a sodium laureth sulfate (not sodium lauryl sulfate, which is irritating) based liquid cleanser or one with another gentle surfectant. On that note, you seem to misunderstand how sodium lauryl sulfate and sodium laureth sulfate react with the skin and body. This article should shed some light on this topic for you:

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Concerning the baking soda, it has a pH of around 8.1. Consequently, I don't think it's a good idea to use it directly on the skin. However, I have heard that a little baking soda can be mixed with liquid cleansers, which often times have a pH of around 5 or 6, to use as an exfoliant, so I would think that the overall pH of this mixture would not be alkaline.

Lots of people don't use sunscreen and think they're not harming their skin provided they don't tan or burn, but the medical community has found this way of thinking to be incorrect. Often times the damage caused by the use of irritating or alkaline products isn't immediately visible, but that doesn't mean it's not there.

thanks for ur reply... wow really? thats interesting Wat u had said about the SLES, being better than soap? Yer your probably right, I looked into sodium tallowate and its made of animal fats and fish oils. Hmm doesnt sound so good. Yer probably better off using a proper cleanser. Since starting this soap, I am still extremely oily!, I want to stick to the Simple brand. I am interested in trying this out, and I might buy it this weekend cuz its 20% off. Does the ingredients here sound okay?

Aqua (Water)

Sodium Laureth Sulfate

Cocamide DEA

Glycerin

PEG-7 Glyceryl Cocoate

Panthenol (Pro-Vitamin B5)

Cocamidopropyl Betaine

Bis-PEG/PPG-20/20 Dimethicone

Glyceryl Laurate

Citric Acid

Sodium Chloride

Tocopheryl Acetate (Vitamin E)

Dipropylene Gylcol

2-Bromo-2-Nitropane-1,3-Diol

Anthemis Nobilis (Chamomile Oil)

Pelargonium Graveolens Oil

Potassium Sorbate

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Thanks so much

acne1989 said:

thanks for ur reply... wow really? thats interesting Wat u had said about the SLES, being better than soap? Yer your probably right, I looked into sodium tallowate and its made of animal fats and fish oils. Hmm doesnt sound so good. Yer probably better off using a proper cleanser. Since starting this soap, I am still extremely oily!, I want to stick to the Simple brand. I am interested in trying this out, and I might buy it this weekend cuz its 20% off. Does the ingredients here sound okay?

Aqua (Water)

Sodium Laureth Sulfate

Cocamide DEA

Glycerin

PEG-7 Glyceryl Cocoate

Panthenol (Pro-Vitamin B5)

Cocamidopropyl Betaine

Bis-PEG/PPG-20/20 Dimethicone

Glyceryl Laurate

Citric Acid

Sodium Chloride

Tocopheryl Acetate (Vitamin E)

Dipropylene Gylcol

2-Bromo-2-Nitropane-1,3-Diol

Anthemis Nobilis (Chamomile Oil)

Pelargonium Graveolens Oil

Potassium Sorbate

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Thanks so much

That cleanser looks much better; however, there is some concern about cocamide DEA and it's supposed link to cancer, which you can read about here:

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Based on what the article said, though, you probably should be OK using it.

Some other cleansers you could also try are:

Eucerin Redness Relief Soothing Cleanser

Nivea for Men Sensitive Extra Gentle Face Wash (which women can use too)

No matter what cleanser you use, the oil will eventually come back becuase oil production is primarily controlled by hormones. The best thing you can do is use a gentle cleanser that will remove oil, debris, and dead skin cells from your skin's surface without "stripping" it like those mentioned above.

thanks, ill tell ya how it goes thank-you you have helped me so much *goes off and buys Simple*

Just check here to see which ingredients are good or bad: [Removed link]

do you know if all eucerin products are good to use on acne-prone skin?

Hey Snow Queen. Well I bought the Simple cleanser. I think the ingredients varies just a little bit from the Australian site to the ingredients printed on the bottle. So here are the ingredients taken from the bottle:

Aqua, Sodium laureth sulphate, cocomide-DEA, Glycerin, PEG-7 Glyceryl Cocoate, Panthenol, Cocoamidopropyl Betaine, Bis-PEG/PPG-20/20 Dimethicone, Sodium Methylparaben, Citric Acid, Sodium Chloride, Tocopheryl Acetate, Dipropylene Glycol, 2-Bromo-2-Nitropropane-1, 3-Diol, Chamomile oil, and pelargonium graveolens oil.

Are these ingredients okay? Thank-you

wow i learned a lot from this thread. now i knoe some things that i never knew before.

I was wondering would these ingredient dry, irritate my skin?..By the way, my skin is fine to SA(for some odd reason..it doesn't irritate it).

I want to change my cleanser..and this one seemed promising.

And as lame as this sounds..I am scared to use Dove foaming cleanser(because people I know have broken out..from it with hard pimples around there jaws..)

By the way I have combination skin(dry certain areas for a bit..then gets a little oily, but still theres the dry spots on my face). Its also senstive(redness is an issue, and I get rashes if I am to harsh if my face)

Ingredients:

Water (aqua), Stearic Acid, Decyl Glucoside, Cetyl Alcohol, Glycerin, Polyquaternium 37, Propylene Glycol Dicaprylate/Dicaprate, PPG 1 Trideceth 6, Jojoba Esters, Glycol Stearate, Divinyldimethicone/Dimethicone Copolymer, C12-13 Pareth 23, C12-13 Pareth 3, Laureth 23, Salicylic Acid, Melaleuca Alternifolia Leaf Extract (tea tree), Polysorbate 20, Propylene Glycol, Prunus Armeniaca Fruit Extract (apricot), Zea Mays Kernel Meal (corn), Sambucus Nigra Flower Extract, Primula Veris Extract, Helianthus Annuus Extract (sunflower), Chamomilla Recutita Flower Extract (matricaria), Petrolatum, Dimethicone, Stearamidopropyl Dimethylamine, Tocopheryl Acetate, Sodium PCA, Betaine, Sorbitol, Glycine, Alanine, Proline, Serine, Threonine, Arginine, Lysine, Glutamic Acid, Silica, Urea, Niacinamide, Ascorbic Acid, Triethanolamine, Menthyl Lactate, Disodium EDTA, DMDM Hydantoin, Methlparaben, Fragrance (parfum), Mica (CI 77019), Titanium Dioxide (CI 77891), Red 30 Lake (CI 73360), Yellow 5 Lake (CI 19140)

Thanks luv

I was wondering would these ingredient dry, irritate my skin?..By the way, my skin is fine to SA(for some odd reason..it doesn't irritate it).

 

I want to change my cleanser..and this one seemed promising.

And as lame as this sounds..I am scared to use Dove foaming cleanser(because people I know have broken out..from it with hard pimples around there jaws..)

 

By the way I have combination skin(dry certain areas for a bit..then gets a little oily, but still theres the dry spots on my face). Its also senstive(redness is an issue, and I get rashes if I am to harsh if my face)

 

Ingredients:

Water (aqua), Stearic Acid, Decyl Glucoside, Cetyl Alcohol, Glycerin, Polyquaternium 37, Propylene Glycol Dicaprylate/Dicaprate, PPG 1 Trideceth 6, Jojoba Esters, Glycol Stearate, Divinyldimethicone/Dimethicone Copolymer, C12-13 Pareth 23, C12-13 Pareth 3, Laureth 23, Salicylic Acid, Melaleuca Alternifolia Leaf Extract (tea tree), Polysorbate 20, Propylene Glycol, Prunus Armeniaca Fruit Extract (apricot), Zea Mays Kernel Meal (corn), Sambucus Nigra Flower Extract, Primula Veris Extract, Helianthus Annuus Extract (sunflower), Chamomilla Recutita Flower Extract (matricaria), Petrolatum, Dimethicone, Stearamidopropyl Dimethylamine, Tocopheryl Acetate, Sodium PCA, Betaine, Sorbitol, Glycine, Alanine, Proline, Serine, Threonine, Arginine, Lysine, Glutamic Acid, Silica, Urea, Niacinamide, Ascorbic Acid, Triethanolamine, Menthyl Lactate, Disodium EDTA, DMDM Hydantoin, Methlparaben, Fragrance (parfum), Mica (CI 77019), Titanium Dioxide (CI 77891), Red 30 Lake (CI 73360), Yellow 5 Lake (CI 19140)

 

Thanks luv

 

The cleanser has fragrance and colorings which could be irritating, but not in any significant ammounts. Other than that, it looks OK.

I'm surprised St. Ives included petrolatum in the product's formulation given that most oily and combination skin types avoid that ingredient for fear of clogged pores. Personally, I've found that cleansers using petrolatum don't rinse cleanly, but even so they don't seem to complicate my breakouts. However, everyone's different. If you do get this cleanser, I recommend using a gentle toner like Nivea Visage Moisturizing Toner to help remove any residue that may be left behind.

The cleanser does contain salicylic acid (exfoliant) and tea tree oil (disinfectant), but such medications are usually wasted in cleansers. Salicylic acid acts as an exfolliant in products having pH's of 4 or lower. Almost all cleansers have pH's of 5 or higher. Even if this cleanser were the exception, the salicylic acid would be washed away before it could do too much, and the same comment applies to the tea tree oil. If you let the cleanser sit on your skin in hopes that the medication would have time to penetrate, then the surfectants (detergent cleansing agents that include decyl glucoside and sodium laureth sulfate) would have time to irritate the skin.

Also, breakouts can take two weeks to develop, so if the people you know that used the Dove cleanser broke out within the first week of trying it, chances are it was coincidence. If they had been using it for a few weeks and still broke out, were they using any other new products around the same time?

Hey Snow Queen. Well I bought the Simple cleanser. I think the ingredients varies just a little bit from the Australian site to the ingredients printed on the bottle. So here are the ingredients taken from the bottle:

 

Aqua, Sodium laureth sulphate, cocomide-DEA, Glycerin, PEG-7 Glyceryl Cocoate, Panthenol, Cocoamidopropyl Betaine, Bis-PEG/PPG-20/20 Dimethicone, Sodium Methylparaben, Citric Acid, Sodium Chloride, Tocopheryl Acetate, Dipropylene Glycol, 2-Bromo-2-Nitropropane-1, 3-Diol, Chamomile oil, and pelargonium graveolens oil.

 

Are these ingredients okay? Thank-you

 

That cleanser looks fine. Like the other formulation, it does have fragrance (in the form of pelargonium graveolens oil), but not in any significant amount.

The only differences I can see in this slightly different formulation are the use of a different thickener and the exclusion of one of the preservatives.

do you know if all eucerin products are good to use on acne-prone skin?

 

As in any line, not all the Eucerin products are necessarily appropriate for acne-prone skin. The only Eucerin products I recommend for acne-prone skin are Baby Aquaphor Gentle Wash, Gentle Hydrating Cleanser, and Redness Relief Soothing Cleanser. Most of the other Eucerin products are too greasy, contain potentially pore-clogging ingredients, or have irritants.

PS I searched drugstore.com for Eucerin products and overviewed all their ingredients, so I probably didn't see them all since drugstore.com doesn't necessarily carry all the Eucerin products available.

myspip said:

Just check here to see which ingredients are good or bad: [Removed link]

I disagree with some ingredients that website considers good or bad. Also, I have no way of knowing where the infomation comes from.

Dove cleanser broke out within the first week of trying it, chances are it was coincidence. If they had been using it for a few weeks and still broke out, were they using any other new products around the same time?

I know that 3 outta the 5 broke out. And they used it for a month or more. Then again...they were using Clean and Clear astringents. The one for senstive skin *stung my face!*. And the other two..never really get acne. So thats prolly why, they didn't break out. Luckies!

But I decided not to get the product..Its useless. Besides I am sure there's something better out there that can exfoliate my skin a couple times a week. Do you have any recommendations?

Thanks luv.

snow queen, thanks for the response. i'm currently using eucerin redness relief daily perfecting lotion w/ spf15, it seems to reduce redness and it moisterizes but do you think this might clog my pores?

snow queen, thanks for the response. i'm currently using eucerin redness relief daily perfecting lotion w/ spf15, it seems to reduce redness and it moisterizes but do you think this might clog my pores?

 

It uses titanium dioxide as a sunscreen ingredient, which does clog pores in some people. However, it is not purely titanium dioxide-based like some sunscreens. The product also uses certain thickeners that might contribute to clogged pores, but so do many products. If you've been using it for a few weeks and haven't noticed any worsening of your breakouts, you are probably OK.

I tried this product a while ago and found it to be greasy yet at the same time not moisturizing enough. The green blended in well, but I know some people seem to have trouble getting it to look natural.

One thing I don't like about this product's formulation is the inclusion of alcohol denat. The amount of that ingredient is not in a particularly high concentration, but it is still high enough that it might cause a problem for those with particularly sensitive skin (like the rosacea patients this line is targeting). It has a lot more alcohol than licohalcone.

Anyway, if you bought this product in hopes that it would visibly reduce your redness overtime, you'll be dissapointed. If your redness hasn't faded overtime while using gentle products, chances are a dermatologist would have to perform a laser treatment to get rid of it. Dove, Neutrogena, and Olay offer better moisturizers (day or night) with higher concentrations of ingredients that promote the appearance of healthy skin.

Dove cleanser broke out within the first week of trying it, chances are it was coincidence. If they had been using it for a few weeks and still broke out, were they using any other new products around the same time?

 

I know that 3 outta the 5 broke out. And they used it for a month or more. Then again...they were using Clean and Clear astringents. The one for senstive skin *stung my face!*. And the other two..never really get acne. So thats prolly why, they didn't break out. Luckies!

 

But I decided not to get the product..Its useless. Besides I am sure there's something better out there that can exfoliate my skin a couple times a week. Do you have any recommendations?

 

Thanks luv.

 

I noticed in your signature that you cannot use chemical exfoliants because they are too harsh. Which products did you try? Many contain alcohol and/or other irritants, like the Clean and Clear astringents supposedly designed for sensitive skin. There are only a small handful of truly gentle and pH correct salicylic acid products available on the market, though there are many more alpha hydroxy acid products.

Don't expect your cleanser to do anything other than eliminate dead skin cells, excess sebum, and debris from the skin's surface. As I have discussed previously, medicated cleansers are generally ineffective and cleanser/scrubs don't actually exfoliate within the pore like many people think. The St. Ives cleansers use walnut particles to exfoliate, which are too abrasive to the skin.

Neutrogena's At-Home MicroDermabrasion Kit is a great way to manually exfoliate your skin a few times a week and should noticeably improve your skin's overall appearance. It is probably the most effective manual exfoliant sold at the drugstore. You can use it and other srub-type treatments on non-inflammatory breakouts that involve blackheads and whiteheads, but don't use it over inflammatory breakouts (involving anything red and swollen).

Cetaphil Gentle Skin Cleanser has Sodium Lauryl Sulfate.

Should I not be using the cleanser?

Ingredients:

Water

Cetyl Alcohol

Propylene Glycol

Sodium Lauryl Sulfate

Stearyl Alcohol

Methylparaben

Propylparaben

Butylparaben

snow queen, thanks for the response. i'm currently using eucerin redness relief daily perfecting lotion w/ spf15, it seems to reduce redness and it moisterizes but do you think this might clog my pores?

 

 

It uses titanium dioxide as a sunscreen ingredient, which does clog pores in some people. However, it is not purely titanium dioxide-based like some sunscreens. The product also uses certain thickeners that might contribute to clogged pores, but so do many products. If you've been using it for a few weeks and haven't noticed any worsening of your breakouts, you are probably OK.

 

I tried this product a while ago and found it to be greasy yet at the same time not moisturizing enough. The green blended in well, but I know some people seem to have trouble getting it to look natural.

 

One thing I don't like about this product's formulation is the inclusion of alcohol denat. The amount of that ingredient is not in a particularly high concentration, but it is still high enough that it might cause a problem for those with particularly sensitive skin (like the rosacea patients this line is targeting). It has a lot more alcohol than licohalcone.

 

Anyway, if you bought this product in hopes that it would visibly reduce your redness overtime, you'll be dissapointed. If your redness hasn't faded overtime while using gentle products, chances are a dermatologist would have to perform a laser treatment to get rid of it. Dove, Neutrogena, and Olay offer better moisturizers (day or night) with higher concentrations of ingredients that promote the appearance of healthy skin.

 

i have been using this for about 2 months now...i think i'll discontinue using this and try another moisterizer. can you recommend me one that has an spf of atleast 15? (i'm about to take accutane) thanks!

also how are these ingredients?

Acitve Ingredients: Octinoxate. Octisalate,Titanium Dioxide. Inactive Ingredients: Water, Octyl Stearate, Aloe Barbadensis Gel, Glycerin, Gylceryl Stearate, Squalane, Stearic Acid, Cetyl Alcohol, Phenoxyethanol, Tocopheryl Acetate, Fragrance, Alumina, Sorbitan Oleate, Triethanolamine, Methylparaben, Acrylates/C10-30 Alkyl Acrylate Crosspolymer, Sodium Polyacrylate, Silica, Xanthan Gum, Disodium EDTA, Butylparaben, Carbomer, Ethylbaraben, Sodium Methylparaben, Isobutylparaben, Propylparaben.

Water, Cyclopentasiloxane, Glycerin, Caprylic/CapricTriglyceride, Cetearyl Alcohol, Ammonium Acryloyldimethyltaurate/VPCopolymer, Pentylene Glycol, Stearic Acid, Cholesterol, Bisabolol, Sodium PCA, Tocopheryl Acetate (Vitamin E Acetate), Dimethicone, Linoleic Acid, Ceramide 3, Ceramide 6 II, Ceramide 1, Phytosphingosine, Isohexadecane, Saccharide Isomerate, Coriandrum Sativum (Coriander) Seed Oil, Butyrospermum Parkii (Shea Butter), Avena Sativa (Oat) Kernel Extract, Stearyl Glycyrrhetinate,Linoleamidopropyl BG-Dimonium Chloride Phosphate, Sodium Lactate, Sodium Citrate, Citric Acid, PEG-4 Laurate, Disodium EDTA, DMDM Hydantoin, Biosaccharide Gum-1, Iodopropynyl Butylcarbamate, Titanium Dioxide (CI 77891).

sorry for requesting a lot...thanks