what's the name of the new and old machine, so that when i go hunting for good fraxel doctors, i'll know if they have the newer/better machine or not?

what's the name of the new and old machine, so that when i go hunting for good fraxel doctors, i'll know if they have the newer/better machine or not?

 

I think the name of the new machine is the SR1500.

And they use the dye with the new machine just as they did with the old machine.

why are they still using the dye? it works without it

It's easier said than done. I wish I could have asked my doctor more questions through my fraxel treatments. Now it seems like they just wanted the money and be done with me without really caring about the improvements I was seeking. But it's really hard because it's such an emotional subject for me and I just wanted to trust them to give me the best possible results. Now, I regret going to the doctor because I'm getting less than desirable results and have paid a lot of money. Oy.

do your scars look worse now than they did befor?

 

what's the name of the new and old machine, so that when i go hunting for good fraxel doctors, i'll know if they have the newer/better machine or not?

 

I think the name of the new machine is the SR1500.

And they use the dye with the new machine just as they did with the old machine.

 

I had my first treatment with the new machine last week, and he didn't use the blue dye.

 

 

what's the name of the new and old machine, so that when i go hunting for good fraxel doctors, i'll know if they have the newer/better machine or not?

 

I think the name of the new machine is the SR1500.

And they use the dye with the new machine just as they did with the old machine.

 

I had my first treatment with the new machine last week, and he didn't use the blue dye.

 

Dr. Jih has used the dye both times so far. I'll be asking about that Tuesday - that stuff is icky.

 

 

 

what's the name of the new and old machine, so that when i go hunting for good fraxel doctors, i'll know if they have the newer/better machine or not?

 

I think the name of the new machine is the SR1500.

And they use the dye with the new machine just as they did with the old machine.

 

I had my first treatment with the new machine last week, and he didn't use the blue dye.

 

Dr. Jih has used the dye both times so far. I'll be asking about that Tuesday - that stuff is icky.

 

Why would some doctor's use it, and other's don't? I don't miss that stuff at all!!

It's easier said than done. I wish I could have asked my doctor more questions through my fraxel treatments. Now it seems like they just wanted the money and be done with me without really caring about the improvements I was seeking. But it's really hard because it's such an emotional subject for me and I just wanted to trust them to give me the best possible results. Now, I regret going to the doctor because I'm getting less than desirable results and have paid a lot of money. Oy.

 

tenntenn:

Are you going to do anymore treatments or are you done? I've looked at your pictures that you had posted before and I think your skin looks really good!

i agree tenntenn your scars did get significant improvment. I couldnt even see a trace of some of them in the after pics. doesnt look like your pores got much improvement though, bummer.

I wanted to let you guys know that it's been 6 days since I had the new Fraxel done, and I've been able to go out since yesterday. There's just a little flakiness left, and it doesn't look too bad with makeup. With the old Fraxel, I wasn't able to go out of the house until the 8th day or so. This is very weird, because the settings on the new one were over twice as much as the old one. The swelling feels gone, too. All in all, it wasn't too bad this time.

tenntenn:

Are you going to do anymore treatments or are you done? I've looked at your pictures that you had posted before and I think your skin looks really good!

#1 Cubsfan

Can you point me to literature on new fraxel. I recall the "30% deeper than before" sound bite and 75% improvement, but I wish I had a better understanding of the testing procedures and the mechanics of how/why it works better. Due to my disappointment with original fraxel I guess I am looking for some support as to why I should expect this to work better.

tenntenn:

Are you going to do anymore treatments or are you done? I've looked at your pictures that you had posted before and I think your skin looks really good!

 

Thanks leni821. I just wanted to make sure you are getting your money's worth on these treatments. I'm going to do more, but with a different doctor because the other doctor is willing to be aggressive. I really believe in aggressive treatments; though, it may not produce great results, but if I'm going to spend my hard earned money, I want to make sure the doc can go as aggressive as they can.

I wanted to let you guys know that it's been 6 days since I had the new Fraxel done, and I've been able to go out since yesterday. There's just a little flakiness left, and it doesn't look too bad with makeup. With the old Fraxel, I wasn't able to go out of the house until the 8th day or so. This is very weird, because the settings on the new one were over twice as much as the old one. The swelling feels gone, too. All in all, it wasn't too bad this time. 🙂

 

That's great news. What settings did you have this time? Isn't it weird that doctors say "no downtime" when in fact there are days I just can't go out of the house? I guess from the doctor's perspective there is no medical reason why we need to stay home.

The setting was 55 with 4 passes. I know what you mean. It's almost impossible to find a week where you can't go out of the house. I'm not going to say if I've seen any improvements yet, just in case there is some swelling yet. I figure in another week I'll be able to tell if anything looks better.

#1 Cubsfan

Can you point me to literature on new fraxel. I recall the "30% deeper than before" sound bite and 75% improvement, but I wish I had a better understanding of the testing procedures and the mechanics of how/why it works better. Due to my disappointment with original fraxel I guess I am looking for some support as to why I should expect this to work better.

 

You're probably going to think I'm crazy for doing this and not having read up on it, but my doctor's office didn't even have the new brochure yet. I thought my doctor had said a few months ago about 75% improvement, but when I asked him this time he said 40%. I was kind of bummed, I was hoping for more than that. Maybe since doing it on patients since early summer, he isn't seeing that kind of results. I'm strictly going by what he has told me, and putting a lot of trust in his judgement. I just hope I won't be sorry for it.

I'm going for my first Fraxel in the morning. I'm a little nervous but more excited then anything!

I'm going for my first Fraxel in the morning. I'm a little nervous but more excited then anything!

 

I go for my third one today.

I'm going for my first Fraxel in the morning. I'm a little nervous but more excited then anything!

 

Good luck to you. Let us know how it went!

#1,

So the 55 refers to mjs of energy? Was density 125 mtz per cm2? The prior machine topped out at 40 and I went up to 25, with a couple passes at 30 over scarred areas, mainly becasue they feared going higher. I wonder if 55 is the max on new machine. That would fit with the soundbite that it can go 30% deeper than the prior machine at 40. Anyway, my doc has no plans to get the new machine, so I am wondering if maybe I just need to try 40 on the current. That's a big jump from 25. I am tough when it comes to pain, but I was doing 8 passes at 25, 125 mtz, so the same thing at 40 or 55 would be huge.

Did you have shots or just numbing cream?

Did he tell you the total energy applied to face?

Sorry for questiosn, but I am not satsified with skin and want to keep working it.

Also, if he just started using machine, I doubt he has enough experience to say 40% because my understanding is that it takes 6 motnhs after last to make a final assessment.

Good wishes on getting more than 40%.

You are our pioneer, so keep us posted.

#1,

So the 55 refers to mjs of energy? Was density 125 mtz per cm2? The prior machine topped out at 40 and I went up to 25, with a couple passes at 30 over scarred areas, mainly becasue they feared going higher. I wonder if 55 is the max on new machine. That would fit with the soundbite that it can go 30% deeper than the prior machine at 40. Anyway, my doc has no plans to get the new machine, so I am wondering if maybe I just need to try 40 on the current. That's a big jump from 25. I am tough when it comes to pain, but I was doing 8 passes at 25, 125 mtz, so the same thing at 40 or 55 would be huge.

Did you have shots or just numbing cream?

Did he tell you the total energy applied to face?

Sorry for questiosn, but I am not satsified with skin and want to keep working it.

Also, if he just started using machine, I doubt he has enough experience to say 40% because my understanding is that it takes 6 motnhs after last to make a final assessment.

Good wishes on getting more than 40%.

You are our pioneer, so keep us posted.

 

Hi Billyboy, He didn't say what the density was. I'm going in for my 2nd treatment next Tuesday, so I'll find out more info. The pain was much less intense on this one at 55, than the old one at 24. It was almost unbearable at 24. No more shots, just numbing cream one hour before. Somehow, I'm not thrilled to be the pioneer on this!

would it be better for me if i did 5 treatments of smoothbeam combined with 5 treatments of fraxel every month

I've had only one treatment (next one scheduled for Thanksgiving), but I just want to put out there that there can be residual swelling for weeks afterward. Noticeable swelling for me went down after a week so I thought any improvements in texture after that period were permanent. But about 3.5 weeks after the last bit of swelling (that even I didn't couldn't tell was there) went down, pores went back to original size and scars that looked mildly better went back to pre-fraxel appearance. Just be forewarned.

I did have one raised non-acne scar from splitting my cheek open when I was a kid that looks flatter, but no improvements otherwise. Effects are supposed to be cumulative so we'll see after #2.

Hi Medusa

I'm glad you were finally able to start your treatments. I don't think many people have seen much result from just one, so hang in there.

Sometimes I think the 'cinderella' stage (post swelling) is the worst phsycologically. You get used to your new improved look and then slowly return to your pretreatment look. Sometimes I think people forget just exactly what their scars looked like, and think that they have either gotten worse or no improvement because they are comparing it to the microswelling look. I know that I did that, and I felt really depressed and did think that I looked worse, until I realized what the deal was.

It is so very important to take close up photos in your bathroom light, or whatever, so that you can compare. It's a bit of a roller coaster ride.

Hang in there, the fact that you can already see one scar is improving is a good sign )

Peach Pie

Ok I got my first Fraxel at 2:30 this afternoon and wow is my face red and swollen and hot. It was a totally different experience then the smoothbeam + lasers I had done 3 years ago or else I had forgotten.

They numbed my face with this triple numbing cream and wow was I numb!! My lips and some got on my tongue, talk about an odd feeling. I waited a little over an hour and then they applied the blue dye and some other gel to help the laser head glide over my skin better, then we started. It was a totally different sensation then the SB....it's more tingly and HOT! At first it didn't hurt much but when he went over the same area over and over it started to hurt a bit. Thank goodness for the cooling machine, I couldn't have done it without it. Yup, it hurt a bit but nothing you can't handle. My skin was sooooooooooo very hot after that she let me hold the cooling wand on my face for a while because I was a little dizzy. I guess the cold sensation from the fan and the heat from the laser made me a bit dizzy and the cold wand is COLD! So I was shivering and my legs were shaking, the poor nurse kept asking me if I was ok. She was great.

I washed the blue dye off my face, well most of it. Then I bought a reusable gel face mask (natraGel facial rejuvenation mask) made from green tea, vitamin E and Aloe Vera. It felt so good one my hot face that it's worth the extra $25. I can use it for the next few days.

The nurse told me to take an antihistamine and ibuprofen for the next couple of days and to try to sleep elevated (not sure if I can do this though) to reduce swelling. I also bought some other topical to help with recovery and swelling.

Ok now for the little bit of details I got out of the doctor (he's pretty quiet). This is the newest Fraxel and he was asked by the company to do testing on this before it even came out so he has a bit of experience with it and had the first Fraxel for 3 years. I trust him. He asked me if I wanted an aggressive or light treatment and I told him I wanted something in-between. My skin is super sensitive so I was scared to do anything very aggressive but next time if this turns out ok I will ask him to be more aggressive. He said the setting was 40 and he did 8 passes. I didn't think to ask what the total energy was but I will next time. This sounds pretty aggressive to me!!!! YEWWWOCH!

I took pics of my face yesterday and have taken a couple today so I hope to have a photo journal.

I am really excited and the nurse kept telling me that I was going to LOVE the results and it was perfect for me. The doctor seemed pretty excited to, well as excited as he gets. I was so shocked when the nurse told me he was the runner up to this seasons reality show The Bachelor ( i don't watch it so I didn't really know what she was talking about)........he's all business! LOL

Sorry for going on and on but I'm excited . I will try to update as I can.

Third fraxel done yesterday.

I'm red red red and more swollen than ever this time. No flaking yet, I expect to see that start at some point today.

Scattered pinpoint bleeds again this time.

Settings were 18mjs and then additional passes - at level 40.

I almost had to stop. This one was definitely the most intense one yet.

I asked if we had to use the blue dye, and was told yes.

I'll call Friday to schedule number four.

THREE DOWN, TWO TO GO!

do the MJ levels compare between the two fraxels? someone said their doctor told them its on a different scale . . . . can someone ask what the minimum and maximum levels are for the new one?