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Artlez and Satellaite. Thanks for the quick reply. Did you guys go through a cabin fever phase where you looked in the mirror about 50 times a day to check the redness and healing? Well...I did, I kind of freaked out on day 3 and 4. I just need to remind myself that 4-5 days is normal.
How many treatments have you guys had? At what levels? And with which machines? Results? Nevermind Sat, just read yours
Date: 04.10.08
World Premiere of Fraxel re:pair Laser: A New Class of Treatment Therapy for CO2 Laser Skin Resurfacing Announced in the EMEA
PARIS - Reliant Technologies, Inc., the pioneer of fractional resurfacing and market leader of aesthetic laser skin treatments, today announced its European launch of the Fraxel repair laser system with this monthas CE Mark (ConformitA EuropAenne) approval.
The European debut of the Fraxel re:pair system will take place at the Anti-Aging Medicine World Congress on April 10 a 12 in Paris, France. The Fraxel re:pair system is now available to dermatologists and plastic surgeons in the European Union, as well as Africa, the Middle East, Australia and Hong Kong. In December 2007, the Fraxel repair system received the industryas only FDA 510(K) clearance for a fractional ablative laser system for treatment of wrinkles, rhytides, furrows, fine lines, textural irregularities, pigmented lesions and vascular dyschromia.
The industryas only minimally invasive, ablative fractional laser system, the Fraxel re:pair laser delivers a full spectrum of aesthetic treatment from Fractional MicroDermAblationa (FMDAa) treatment to Fractional Deep Dermal Ablationa (FDDAa) treatment. It is the only ablative resurfacing device capable of being operated by a single clinician because of its built-in smoke evacuation system, and capable of treating at depths from 300 micrometers (Am) to 1.6 mm into the dermis, all in a single hand piece.
aoeAblative fractional skin resurfacing with the Fraxel re:pair laser is the biggest breakthrough for wrinkle removal in the last 10 years,a said Christopher Zachary, FRCP, chair of the Department of Dermatology, University of California at Irvine. aoeResults approach those we can achieve with a facelift, with very few complications and limited downtime. The Fraxel re:pair system produces significant tissue tightening, wrinkle reduction and textural improvement, both on and off the face.a
The Fraxel re:pair laser system, the result of more than two years of clinical research, represents a new category in skin rejuvenation: Ablative Fractional Resurfacing (AFRTM) treatment. The Fraxel re:pair laser delivers FMDA treatments for superficial photodamage, including pigmentation, fine lines, texture and vascular dyschromia. It also has the flexibility to deliver FDDA treatment for more severe rhytides and furrows by stimulating new collagen and elastin production deep into the dermis. Treatment is delivered with the safety and proven efficacy of a Fraxel brand treatment.
Highlights of the more than two-year multi-site clinical study will be presented at the Anti-Aging Medicine World Congress at the following clinical symposium and live Fraxel re:pair treatment:
a aoeA breakthrough aesthetic solution with nearly 3 years of clinical results and patient follow-up,a by Christopher Zachary, FRCP, chair of the Department of Dermatology, University of California at Irvine, on Friday, April 11, 2008 at 6:30 pm. at the Meridien Etoile Hotel (Longchamp Meeting Room 81 Boulevard Gouvion Saint-Cyr)
aoeThe Fraxel re:pair laser, the latest addition to the Fraxel family of laser systems, continues the Reliant tradition of offering patients choices when considering non-invasive treatment options to safely and effectively eliminate skin damage caused by age or the environment,a said Anja Krammer, vice president of marketing for Reliant Technologies. aoeWhatever skin concerns patients may have, Reliant offers a treatment that fits their lifestyle without the common side effects associated with surgical procedures.a
About the Fraxel Systems The FraxelA family of products, which includes the Fraxel re:paira, Fraxel re:storea and Fraxel re:finea laser systems, has quickly become the industry standard for fractional aesthetic skin treatment. Unlike laser devices of the past, Fraxel brand laser systems treat microscopic volumes of skin with each unique pulse, leaving the surrounding area intact for fast healing. Fraxel lasers have received multiple FDA clearances and have been found safe and effective in treating many areas of the face and body. The versatility of the product line ensures that patients can choose the best treatment for various stages of their lives as their skin care needs evolve. T
he Fraxel re:pair laser is the breakthrough device that provides Ablative Fractional Resurfacing (AFRTM) treatment, with more clinical research than any product in the fractional ablative category. Fraxel re:pair treatment has been clinically proven to improve wrinkles, rhytides, furrows, fine lines, textural irregularities, pigmented lesions and vascular dyschromia in a multi-site, multi-year study.
The Fraxel re:store laser, delivering Non-ablative Fractional Resurfacing (NFRTM) treatment, was introduced in 2004 and has been adopted by more than 1,500 dermatologists, plastic surgeons and aesthetic physicians worldwide. It is the accepted gold standard for treating acne scars and periorbital wrinkles, and for skin resurfacing procedures on the face, neck, chest and hands.
The Fraxel re:fine laser, offering superficial non-invasive skin rejuvenation, combines the unique method of fractional delivery with a lighter treatment. Performed in 20-25 minutes, Fraxel re:fine treatment is excellent for medical spas and family physicians seeking a safe and gentle option.
Morning after Fraxel 2: still about the same. may be the light, but the "bronzing" looks a little darker. I have 3 small spots that are oozing a little. Not too worried about it, but it didn't happen with my first two treatments on the first machine. Is this normal? Obviously, it's a stronger machine, but....My doctor just got the Fraxel 3, but said he was hesitant to try it on Asian skin yet.
Any Asians out there who has tried the re:pair ??I'm concerned about pigmentation problems.
Morning after Fraxel 2: still about the same. may be the light, but the "bronzing" looks a little darker. I have 3 small spots that are oozing a little. Not too worried about it, but it didn't happen with my first two treatments on the first machine. Is this normal? Obviously, it's a stronger machine, but....My doctor just got the Fraxel 3, but said he was hesitant to try it on Asian skin yet.
Any Asians out there who has tried the re:pair ??I'm concerned about pigmentation problems.
I wanted to try re:pair due to it being a "one-hit" wonder, but you know it's more likely to cause hyperpigmentation due to the co2 technology in it, and if people are already bitching and moaning about fraxel 1 or 2 causing hyperpigmentation you know fraxel 3 will be a "no! no!" for asians and darker skinned individuals such as myself.
Morning after Fraxel 2: still about the same. may be the light, but the "bronzing" looks a little darker. I have 3 small spots that are oozing a little. Not too worried about it, but it didn't happen with my first two treatments on the first machine. Is this normal? Obviously, it's a stronger machine, but....My doctor just got the Fraxel 3, but said he was hesitant to try it on Asian skin yet.
Any Asians out there who has tried the re:pair ??I'm concerned about pigmentation problems.
I wanted to try re:pair due to it being a "one-hit" wonder, but you know it's more likely to cause hyperpigmentation due to the co2 technology in it, and if people are already bitching and moaning about fraxel 1 or 2 causing hyperpigmentation you know fraxel 3 will be a "no! no!" for asians and darker skinned individuals such as myself.
Well,from what I've been reading on this forum,many asians are ok with fraxel 1 and 2.I remember on this thread, a chinese girl had tried re:pair without any problems.Anyone else who had it done?
I'm just wondering.. what is the average price one can expect to pay for fraxel? Does it depend on if it's a newer or older fraxel? Do you normally pay per session or do they usually give you a price for, say, 5 fraxels?
i pay about $1000/session... pay after each session. but in australia you get a very big rebate (80%) off it so it's all good over here 😀 some docs will make it cheaper if you go for five, i.e. the first one i did cost me $1500, then $1350 for the 2nd, etc.
best to just find a good doctor on the net and email them. that's what i did and i got a quick response
Artlez and Satellaite. Thanks for the quick reply. Did you guys go through a cabin fever phase where you looked in the mirror about 50 times a day to check the redness and healing? Well...I did, I kind of freaked out on day 3 and 4. I just need to remind myself that 4-5 days is normal.How many treatments have you guys had? At what levels? And with which machines? Results? Nevermind Sat, just read yours
yeh i kept on looking at my face heaps after my first fraxel but after the 2nd one you kinda stop looking so much cos you know what you'll see each time... just redness for the first 3-4 days... didn't wanna get my hopes up seeing my face so temporarily smooth as well 😛
i've had 2 treatments... dunno what level but apparently it was pretty high for the cheek area. i used fraxel 2/re:store as should most doctors these days. results have been fairly good so far. scars aren't as red as before and there's a slight filling up of my scars but nothing to brag about just yet. still need another 3 treatments and the 6+ months waiting time.
what happened to our veteran members?there should be a couple of you who are now about 6 months out from your last session. where are you guys? reports? pics?
I've learned a long time ago not to depend on some of the people on here. Same here, I was here 4 months and several people said they were going to do it but only two that I know of have reported.
I'm just wondering.. what is the average price one can expect to pay for fraxel? Does it depend on if it's a newer or older fraxel? Do you normally pay per session or do they usually give you a price for, say, 5 fraxels?i pay about $1000/session... pay after each session. but in australia you get a very big rebate (80%) off it so it's all good over here 😀 some docs will make it cheaper if you go for five, i.e. the first one i did cost me $1500, then $1350 for the 2nd, etc.
best to just find a good doctor on the net and email them. that's what i did and i got a quick response
Which fraxel did you get? Does the pricing depend on the different fraxel lasers?
I'm just wondering.. what is the average price one can expect to pay for fraxel? Does it depend on if it's a newer or older fraxel? Do you normally pay per session or do they usually give you a price for, say, 5 fraxels?i pay about $1000/session... pay after each session. but in australia you get a very big rebate (80%) off it so it's all good over here 😀 some docs will make it cheaper if you go for five, i.e. the first one i did cost me $1500, then $1350 for the 2nd, etc.
best to just find a good doctor on the net and email them. that's what i did and i got a quick response
Which fraxel did you get? Does the pricing depend on the different fraxel lasers?
i did re:store... the place only offered re:store but i'd say it would differ greatly based on the type of laser.
I've had one Fractional laser treatment so far (the Lux 1540) and am at week 5 post treatment. My next appointment is in 2 weeks. My question is should I see ANY improvement at all, even 1 or 2 %?? I don't see anything even though I understand that it will take at least 3 treatments and that I won't see improvement until 3 months after the first. Even knowing that, I'm wondering if I should see even a small change at this point. I've read through many of the Fraxel posts but still can't determine whether people are seeing any kind of change, even the smallest of improvements, after one. Thanks for reading and I appreciate any feedback.
I've had one Fractional laser treatment so far (the Lux 1540) and am at week 5 post treatment. My next appointment is in 2 weeks. My question is should I see ANY improvement at all, even 1 or 2 %?? I don't see anything even though I understand that it will take at least 3 treatments and that I won't see improvement until 3 months after the first. Even knowing that, I'm wondering if I should see even a small change at this point. I've read through many of the Fraxel posts but still can't determine whether people are seeing any kind of change, even the smallest of improvements, after one. Thanks for reading and I appreciate any feedback.
You wouldn't be able tell 1-2% change anyways because your skin fluctuates in quality based on your daily activities, weather, time of day, etc, anyways.
Just be patient and you'll begin to see improvements.
was thinking about having the fraxel laser done, but wanted to know if anyone who has done it before thinks it is worth the money?
For acne scars, you need to look into TotalFX or Fraxel Re:pair. I have read through all the posts in the forum and many many more from other forums and Google. You best shot is these 2 new procedures. I started a thread dicussing these 2 procedures. I personally have not gotten it done yet and don't know which one to choose from but definitely go with either one. Btw, these are "single treament" procedures unlike regular Fraxel which requires 4-5 treatments.
If anyone who can share information or results from TotalFX or Fraxel Re:pair, please contribute in my topic/post/thread or this thread.
Thank you....we are all in the fight against acne scars....let's help one another.
laser depth price
Harmony Pixel 20-50 microns $75,000
SureLase FX 40-300 $49,500
SureScan FX 40-300 $19,500
Affirm $130,000
Mixto SX 150-200 $55,000
Encore Active FX 150-200 $105,000
Mosaic 20-50 $90,000
MA 610 50-200 $65,000
LuxIR 1.5-3 mm $40,000
LuxDeepIR 1.0-4 mm
Lux1540 1 mm $55,000
SR 750 400-700 $90,000
SR 1500 400-1500 $110,000
Pro-Fractional 25-1500 $90,000
It's exactly 3 weeks since my first fraxel treatment - did both cheeks, from jawline up to my eyes - and I'm so thrilled with the results already, I didn't expect to see much of a change if any from the first treatment, but my pigmentation from taking the pill is gone, as well as red marks, the indentations (pock marks I guess) from acne are a bit shallower, and for the first time in 10 years I have not worn foundation to go out, it feels so liberating to nto wear make up to work, and I can just pop down to the shop if I need to without worrying to put make up on first.
I had minimal swelling the 2 days following the procedure, I applied an ice pack for a few minutes the following morning but saw no need to thereafter. I didn't get the bronzed skin either, my face was only quite pink the first two days. I had it done on Wednesday, and could have gone to work on the Thursday but had booked DVD's to watch thinking I'd need to stay home, so I went back to work on the Friday, without makeup, no problem. I had the "sand-paper" skin texture for a while and now its all smooth again.
In my opinion Fraxel is definitely worth it! My self confidence is way up and I wake up happy everyday knowing I can shower and that's it, no applying foundation, I can fly long distance without stupid foundation looking crap when I land etc etc, everything is just great now 
As for the cost, I'm in South Africa and paid R 1800 for one treatment of the cheeks, which works out to just under 250 dollars, lol much cheaper than in the USA, laser hair removal here is also much more affordable, I'm getting all my laser treatments done here and then I can move overseas without worrying about finding a good dr and spending a fortune. I think what they are charging you guys in america is exorbitant and a rip-off.
I don't know what machine it is, it's with the new tip so no blue dye, and the energy level goes up to 12 or 15 not sure, but I had it at level 9 and 8 passes on each cheek. My sister is so impressed with my results from one session that she has booked to have it done too.
My next appointment is in two weeks time exactly. Can't wait to see further improvement.
And guys I really do believe it is a no downtime procedure, at least for me, maybe my settings were low therefore there was no downtime, but it worked to removed marks and pigmentation so.....
ok guys, just had my second fraxel two days ago. now that i now how many days to expect for downtime, it's not as bad. plus i'm doing forehead only so i can still go out with a hat.
my treatments so far:
7/06-level 20
12/06-level 20
4/08-level 70
5/08-level 70
I just really hope that I get at least 50-75% improvement...it's just so damn expensive!
I haven't been on for ages but its been about a year since I had 3 fraxels, face, neck and hands. No improvement on hands or neck. On the face, I had some white burn scars that I felt got improved, broken up so to speak. I don't think i got any collagen improvement, they were starting to claim that at the time when I did it. I used fraxel 2 with the blue dye. I didn't see any wrinkle improvement. I would do more at some point but I want the price to go down, and it would mainly be for the scarring. I could see where if you do a bunch of them it may help more with the wrinkles and other things.