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Ylem i really do hope to god that in the not to distant future you find something that works for you, i know that feeling all to well when you look in the mirror and your heart just completely sinks, you just can't believe your skin looks so bad, you just want to die there and then. I go through that shit everyday, the only thing keeping me alive is my brother and mum. I don't believe i will ever be content with my skin, and that very thought send me into a deep depression, so i try to be positive and i'll keep trying different procedures, and spending my every penny on treatment.
I have a consultation with a clinic on the 10th of October for fraxel, i have to travel to another bloody country (England) to get fraxel as there is no where here in Scotland that have this laser. So this treatment with cost me yet again thousands of pounds. I just pray to god that i see some improvent, i really don't know what i'll do if i don't. Infact i don't even want to think about that.
I am a couple of weeks post my 7th fraxel. This is the first for Fraxel 2. It's the first time that I have actually noticed a difference. That part I am happy about. What I am not happy with is the place I had the procedure performed at. I spent thousands of dollars and the PA was aware that I wanted aggressive treatment. After my last Fraxel 1 follow up she said that she would do 2 more full face ones for free. I waited for the Fraxel 2 go to the appointment and then it's a total about face. She doesn't want to do the full face and when I go to make the next appointment,she claims she never said that and has an attitude to boot. 
So now I won't even recommend this place for a facial. In fact, if the place is brought up I will be sure to discourage anyone from going there. This is the sad fact of customer service these days. If she had actually followed through with her promise I would have been happy with the overall results and not felt that I had wasted so much money. I would have gladly signed up for more, since I had improvement. Now, they are not going to get another cent from me.
Ylem i really do hope to god that in the not to distant future you find something that works for you, i know that feeling all to well when you look in the mirror and your heart just completely sinks, you just can't believe your skin looks so bad, you just want to die there and then. I go through that shit everyday, the only thing keeping me alive is my brother and mum. I don't believe i will ever be content with my skin, and that very thought send me into a deep depression, so i try to be positive and i'll keep trying different procedures, and spending my every penny on treatment.I have a consultation with a clinic on the 10th of October for fraxel, i have to travel to another bloody country (England) to get fraxel as there is no where here in Scotland that have this laser. So this treatment with cost me yet again thousands of pounds. I just pray to god that i see some improvent, i really don't know what i'll do if i don't. Infact i don't even want to think about that.
Well, with what people are saying around here, I think it very well could give you your life back. That can happen to some people with these procedures, though rare. I don't want to trivialize your situation, but I might have worse skin than you, especially because I am older and have been breaking out for many more years than you have. That's what really damages your skin beyond repair.
I think Fraxel, just like evrything else, is SO SLOW to produce results on the depressions. But, with hypopimentation, it may have an easier time with. Nothing is truly more difficult than trying to improve those saucer/rolling type scars. God, they NEVER get better no matter what you do- hack away at them, sand them down, laser them, fill them. It's like a curse straight from the devil. Sometimes I have the hardest time believing that anyone could achieve any dramatic kinds of results.
Can anybody tell me whether I can combine fraxel and some peels together? I still have glycolic 30% and Apeel correct left. I will have the fraxel treatments on a monthly basis. Is it OK to have one peel in the middle between fraxel treatments? Or is it too harsh for the skin? Thanks for your reply
Hi, I was wondering if the fraxel laser works well on brown spots
that aren't indented or ice-pick scars. My scars are just dark
brown scars, and my skin is quite smooth to touch but just has
some discoloration coming from the scars. The scars aren't every deep
but are still quite obvious. The texture of my
skin is quite dry, and quite course. Please help me, thankyou 
I just had my 3rd treatment today at 60 mjs, or so I guess. I don't even pay that much attention to the level. I think most have found out that it's the higher mjs settings that are supposed to count. Anyway, I am still depressed, especially over the way my forehead looks. Maybe some subtle softening on the cheek scars so far though, but BARELY notcieable and it still feels deep when I run my fingers over them 🙁 I am not really please yet. But, I am trying to be patient and ride this thing out someone pray for me that this will work to some degree. I don't know how many more lows I can take at this point.
Ylem, I say just hold on and wait for you to finish your 5th or 6th fraxel because that is when people are starting to see the most improvement. Waiting is definitely the hardest part, but just keep thinking only a couple more and then you can judge where you are at.
I just had my 3rd treatment today at 60 mjs, or so I guess. I don't even pay that much attention to the level. I think most have found out that it's the higher mjs settings that are supposed to count. Anyway, I am still depressed, especially over the way my forehead looks. Maybe some subtle softening on the cheek scars so far though, but BARELY notcieable and it still feels deep when I run my fingers over them 🙁 I am not really please yet. But, I am trying to be patient and ride this thing out someone pray for me that this will work to some degree. I don't know how many more lows I can take at this point.Ylem, I say just hold on and wait for you to finish your 5th or 6th fraxel because that is when people are starting to see the most improvement. Waiting is definitely the hardest part, but just keep thinking only a couple more and then you can judge where you are at.
5th or 6th!! God, I was hoping 4 would give me improvment. I can only afford up to 4 treatments. Have I just wasted my money??!!
5th or 6th!! God, I was hoping 4 would give me improvment. I can only afford up to 4 treatments. Have I just wasted my money??!!
No, I dont believe its just the fact that they did the 5th or 6th treatment that is why they got the results as I think it also has to due with how much time has elasped from their first fraxel and second and so on so more collagen is building up as time goes on
I just had my 3rd treatment today at 60 mjs, or so I guess. I don't even pay that much attention to the level. I think most have found out that it's the higher mjs settings that are supposed to count. Anyway, I am still depressed, especially over the way my forehead looks. Maybe some subtle softening on the cheek scars so far though, but BARELY notcieable and it still feels deep when I run my fingers over them 🙁 I am not really please yet. But, I am trying to be patient and ride this thing out someone pray for me that this will work to some degree. I don't know how many more lows I can take at this point.Ylem, I say just hold on and wait for you to finish your 5th or 6th fraxel because that is when people are starting to see the most improvement. Waiting is definitely the hardest part, but just keep thinking only a couple more and then you can judge where you are at.
5th or 6th!! God, I was hoping 4 would give me improvment. I can only afford up to 4 treatments. Have I just wasted my money??!!
You will see some improvement after 4, but you really should try to do 5 or 6. Sorry to be the harbinger of bad news...
I had a second opinion consult yesterday with a very popular derm in my local area (my consult was scheduled for November but she had a cancellation and I drove over to see her 10 minutes after they called me). I've done two Fraxels so far and while I'm happy with my current derm, I was just not sure if she is being as aggressive as possible and if the plan we set up were my best options (5 fraxels then subcision with fillers - I also talked her into doing a subcision before my next Fraxel). Anyway, this new doc actually said that the course I is a good one. She said I would get the most benefits from C02 laser treatment, but the downtime is rough and I've always been reluctant to do C02, even though I know it's definitely a better treatment now than it was when I looked into it 15 years ago. But it's $7000, so that's out of my price range right now anyway. She also said that doing a subcision before my 3rd Fraxel was a very wise choice and that it will be an extremely good dose of collagen growth from both back to back (1 week apart). She said that another subcision after Fraxel #5 then fillers when the swelling goes down will show big improvement. I told her how frustrating it was waiting for results, but that I knew it was a slow process and she said that she will bet that I start to see real improvements after #3 and #4 and especially with doing a subcision next week. She also said that the Fraxel in the end will show alot of tightening of my skin and that will of course help with the scars and then she recommended botox for my forehead lines. So all in all, I felt really good that both docs had the same plan and I feel like I am on the right track. Has anyone done subcisions in the middle of Fraxel treatments and if so, what was your outcome? Also, for those that are feeling that the slow process is waaayyy too slow, maybe you should consider a subcision in the middle of treatments to further along the collagen growth.
After reading, I'm wondering why my doc is starting me straight at 70mjs. He said since I'm paying the fullest, I should receive the fullest. He seems confident in the treatment and told I should also. I'm hoping for the best, first treatment is Thursday.
Stating on 70? ... pain.
I just had my 3rd treatment today at 60 mjs, or so I guess. I don't even pay that much attention to the level. I think most have found out that it's the higher mjs settings that are supposed to count. Anyway, I am still depressed, especially over the way my forehead looks. Maybe some subtle softening on the cheek scars so far though, but BARELY notcieable and it still feels deep when I run my fingers over them 🙁 I am not really please yet. But, I am trying to be patient and ride this thing out someone pray for me that this will work to some degree. I don't know how many more lows I can take at this point.Ylem, I say just hold on and wait for you to finish your 5th or 6th fraxel because that is when people are starting to see the most improvement. Waiting is definitely the hardest part, but just keep thinking only a couple more and then you can judge where you are at.
5th or 6th!! God, I was hoping 4 would give me improvment. I can only afford up to 4 treatments. Have I just wasted my money??!!
You will see some improvement after 4, but you really should try to do 5 or 6. Sorry to be the harbinger of bad news...
Can I wait 2 to 3 months between my 4th and 5th treatments. I will really need to recover financially after 4 treatments, or am I going to have to drive myself to bankruptcy to maintain monthly intervals? Also I notice you've done much lower settings than I've done so far. Shouldn't that make a difference? All my settings have been in the 60's, with my first treatment for the temple area at 70 mjs. I haven't seen any visible improvement yet 2 weeks after my third though.
I just had my 3rd treatment today at 60 mjs, or so I guess. I don't even pay that much attention to the level. I think most have found out that it's the higher mjs settings that are supposed to count. Anyway, I am still depressed, especially over the way my forehead looks. Maybe some subtle softening on the cheek scars so far though, but BARELY notcieable and it still feels deep when I run my fingers over them 🙁 I am not really please yet. But, I am trying to be patient and ride this thing out someone pray for me that this will work to some degree. I don't know how many more lows I can take at this point.Ylem, I say just hold on and wait for you to finish your 5th or 6th fraxel because that is when people are starting to see the most improvement. Waiting is definitely the hardest part, but just keep thinking only a couple more and then you can judge where you are at.
5th or 6th!! God, I was hoping 4 would give me improvment. I can only afford up to 4 treatments. Have I just wasted my money??!!
You will see some improvement after 4, but you really should try to do 5 or 6. Sorry to be the harbinger of bad news...
Can I wait 2 to 3 months between my 4th and 5th treatments. I will really need to recover financially after 4 treatments, or am I going to have to drive myself to bankruptcy to maintain monthly intervals? Also I notice you've done much lower settings than I've done so far. Shouldn't that make a difference? All my settings have been in the 60's, with my first treatment for the temple area at 70 mjs. I haven't seen any visible improvement yet 2 weeks after my third though.
The lower settings is because I have superficial-shallow scars. There is no need to go as deep. Number of treatments will determine % coverage -- remember that fraxel is fractional, meaning that they treat 20-25% of your skin each time. No, 4-5 sessions is not 100% coverage. billyboy and I did the math for everyone in this thread if you want to look it up.
Well, I think I am doing the wrong treatment. Most people I have talked to hear have very minimal or superficial-shallow scarring and that's really what this treatment is for, people who have good skin to start with and are just looking for a 'touch up'
Well if that's the case then i'm fucked, i go for my consultation for fraxel on the 10 of October, its a bloody 3 hour train journey, so i hope when i do finally start my treatment that i do get results, cause i really really can't afford to waste this money, it's pretty much my last.
Well, I think I am doing the wrong treatment. Most people I have talked to hear have very minimal or superficial-shallow scarring and that's really what this treatment is for, people who have good skin to start with and are just looking for a 'touch up'Well if that's the case then i'm fucked, i go for my consultation for fraxel on the 10 of October, its a bloody 3 hour train journey, so i hope when i do finally start my treatment that i do get results, cause i really really can't afford to waste this money, it's pretty much my last.
Arctic- I am not sure how it will work for hypertrophic/hypopigmentation. Your case is different from mine, and you probably have a better chance. I am trying to alleviate the horrible 'shadowing' I get and also treat severe and deep forehead scars. I am not sure if I would be a good person to compare to you.
-1- I just found out that in Japan the emphasis is on doing a greater number of treatments than they do here (but far less energy), in some cases 10+ sessions.-2- Girlfriend: You've had 7 treatments and don't see any results?
I have seen minimal improvement. I am very disappointed in the Medispa that I went to in Daytona. Plus, the attitude of the PA- it turned out to be an overall waste of money. Maye if I had a doctor who was aggressive- like I wanted, I would have seen a better result.
-1- I just found out that in Japan the emphasis is on doing a greater number of treatments than they do here (but far less energy), in some cases 10+ sessions.-2- Girlfriend: You've had 7 treatments and don't see any results?
I have seen minimal improvement. I am very disappointed in the Medispa that I went to in Daytona. Plus, the attitude of the PA- it turned out to be an overall waste of money. Maye if I had a doctor who was aggressive- like I wanted, I would have seen a better result.
I too am quite disappointed. I have had 3 treatments and my scars look as bad if not WORSE! That's due to aging, but the Frxael has not had any significant cosmetic effect. My mom doesn't notice any difference yet either and is against me continuing. She says I am throwing my money away, which I probably am but it is psychological at this point. I can't stop trying and everyday is like hell for me. Every day I keep hoping the imrpovements will start to show and they never do.
Hi just wanted to give people an small update.. its been about 2 months since my 5th fraxel.. and i have to say my face has defintely improved.. a few people have even told me, i would say my tone and texture has improved alot.. my scars have been improved yet most are still there but far less noticable now
if i had to give a % on scar improvements i would say a conservative guess would be 40%
now my question to you people is it ok if i wait few more months then go for another round of 5-6 fraxels?
thanks
Hi just wanted to give people an small update.. its been about 2 months since my 5th fraxel.. and i have to say my face has defintely improved.. a few people have even told me, i would say my tone and texture has improved alot.. my scars have been improved yet most are still there but far less noticable nowif i had to give a % on scar improvements i would say a conservative guess would be 40%
now my question to you people is it ok if i wait few more months then go for another round of 5-6 fraxels?
thanks
yes, my doc says wait ~6 months, though I'm not sure if that's because you should wait to see full results of the first set or if there's some medical reason to wait...