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Hey guys, I'm on day 14. Skin is less red. I'm still flaky. Not seeing much improvement. What type of moistuerizer do you guys use? I've tried aloe vera, it is pretty dry and makes my skin feel tight. It also makes it more red. Simply Me: Is it the same with you?
I also used Uttery Smooth, it is nice but feels little greesy for me. I cannot use MD Forte because it burns like Aloe Vera. I'm bummed out cause I paid over $50 for that and it's useless. Right now I'm using St. Ives body lotion and it feels the best. Is there a difference btw. body lotion and face lotion? Is it also normal that my scars are still red looking in over 2 years? Should my skin be normal by now? Feel little impatient about it. What do you guys do to calm yourself down?
hello beautiful from China, :redface:
well, i been using 100% Pure Aloe Vera Gel from CVS store. my skin looks fantastic actually, the color of it seems random at places, some seem pink, most seem dark and brown like with a tan i guess. but my scars are like totally healing, i would say 2 of my scars have totally filled in!! aside from that i still have the scales on me, and i too am peeling but i do not encourage the peeling so i just try to leave it on for as long as possible. i look like i have a crazy dark/brown/black tan over my face :ninja: , but i must say that under white light, since my skin is white, it looks great, most of my scars are like smooth. i :clap: just :pray: that it will stay like this but i am like on day 6 or 7 post 1st fraxel. i'm not sure why this results varies positive for me, perhaps it is a month ago before treatment, i was doing daily walking excercises for about 3 hours a day, and this has really jump started my health and blood circulation. also i been eating very healthy and taking valuable vitamins, but i have a bad habit of sleeping as late as 4am. :wacko:
i don't really use anything except this aloe vera gel, http://www.cvs.com/CVSApp/cvs/gateway/deta...results.=submit
its pretty cheap too! i put it once in the morning after a gentle cleanser, then once more at night after cleansing before bed. i do drink a lot of orange juice with calcium in it. and my vitamin regimen seems kinda crazy, lol.
1st meal of the day
-mens multi-vitamin one a day
-MSM (1000mg)
2nd meal of the day
-MSM (1000mg)
-Vitamin C with rose hip oil (1000mg)
-Natural Zinc (50mg) (this sometimes gives me a stomache ache and diarhea cuz it has to be taken with fat food or big meal and i dont eat fat food)
3rd meal of the day
-MSM (1000mg)
-Vitamin C with rose hip oil (1000mg)
-Calcium with Vitamin D 600+
Then i try to keep myself hydrated at all times, and i avoid touching my face at all cost (it gets itchy sometimes and i got a lil white head near my mouth cuz i touched it last night). I also eat apples a lot, and my mom bought papayas for me so i been eating that sometimes. Also i eat yogurt riched in calcium and has fruit bits in it. I like to eat springrolls cuz it helps me eat salad and cucumber and meat dipped in Pineapple sauce.) Basicly i did most of the things that was recomended in the pinned thread for holistic/scar revision diet. I dont smoke anything nor drink any alcohol :naughty: , just sober playin my 360 to kill time. I don't know what else to say now really 'cept i will post some pics for you guys to see my results in the near future when i'm not lazy to cut out eyes and upload 😀 .
that's it for now, and keep your head mz 43026 and if i was you, if you do not have any acne or anything else you would want to treat instead of scars/wrinkles/depression, i would suggest you to just use aloe vera gel, make sure its pure 100 percent though and have faith and be optimistic. maybe its too soon for me to make this judgement results but if this is what one treatment has done for me so far, i can't wait to see what happens after 4 treatment :whistle: . I wish you nothing but the best and have faith, you will have WONDERFUL skin in the end and can return to a CAREFREE life. :drool: :dance: :dance:
Shyone
Congrats on results. Spot treating at 40 is really aggressive, but I think the right way to go. You must have a doc that knows how to treat scars.
Would you mind providing the density, passes and mjs on your last treatment, including spot. Also, pre and post photos are great to post (becasue we have so few), but I think meaningless at this stage of treatment because you will see much greater improvement over the next 6 months.
congrats again
Thank you! I'm very pleased so far...
For the last treatment (#3 of a series of 5), full face was done at 18mjs, spot at 40mjs. I didn't get the density or passes, but I seem to recall that she was doing 10 passes for full face, and 8 for spot - but that may be incorrect.
I'll try to get more details next time - I go for #4 on the 13th.
I do have pre photos, and I've been taking additional photos before each treatment, so my photo record will hopefully show ongoing improvements.
Hi Everyone,
I had my first Fraxel on Tuesday afternoon. It is now Thursday evening and I am already peeling. I am worried that it is too soon. I have been keeping moisturized as instructed. Is it normal to peel within two days? Thank you for any responses.
I think it's a good thing that you have peeled so quickly because it may indicate that your doctor has been aggressive. You may peel again.
I also had a treatment on tuesday afternoon, my 4rth. This morning I was totally "crusted" and after showering and gently cleansing I am still very pink/red in some spots. Those areas and maybe my whole face will again "crust over" and flake off. Remember that your results may be over exagerated after this crusting/exfoliating is over but that may be, because of some minor swelling that you may not even feel is present.
Don't be too let down tho, after my 3rd treatment I waited over a month for my 4rth and i'm convinced that there is some deep healing still taking effect and that's why people are seeing results long after their last treatments. I HAVE noticed improvement for certain and believe that even after my 3rd and waiting for over a month that I noticed a gradual improvement on a daily basis :dance:
Hey guys, I'm on day 14. Skin is less red. I'm still flaky. Not seeing much improvement. What type of moistuerizer do you guys use? I've tried aloe vera, it is pretty dry and makes my skin feel tight. It also makes it more red. Simply Me: Is it the same with you?
I also used Uttery Smooth, it is nice but feels little greesy for me. I cannot use MD Forte because it burns like Aloe Vera. I'm bummed out cause I paid over $50 for that and it's useless. Right now I'm using St. Ives body lotion and it feels the best. Is there a difference btw. body lotion and face lotion? Is it also normal that my scars are still red looking in over 2 years? Should my skin be normal by now? Feel little impatient about it. What do you guys do to calm yourself down?
hello beautiful from China, :redface:
well, i been using 100% Pure Aloe Vera Gel from CVS store. my skin looks fantastic actually, the color of it seems random at places, some seem pink, most seem dark and brown like with a tan i guess. but my scars are like totally healing, i would say 2 of my scars have totally filled in!! aside from that i still have the scales on me, and i too am peeling but i do not encourage the peeling so i just try to leave it on for as long as possible. i look like i have a crazy dark/brown/black tan over my face :ninja: , but i must say that under white light, since my skin is white, it looks great, most of my scars are like smooth. i :clap: just :pray: that it will stay like this but i am like on day 6 or 7 post 1st fraxel. i'm not sure why this results varies positive for me, perhaps it is a month ago before treatment, i was doing daily walking excercises for about 3 hours a day, and this has really jump started my health and blood circulation. also i been eating very healthy and taking valuable vitamins, but i have a bad habit of sleeping as late as 4am. :wacko:
i don't really use anything except this aloe vera gel, http://www.cvs.com/CVSApp/cvs/gateway/deta...results.=submit
its pretty cheap too! i put it once in the morning after a gentle cleanser, then once more at night after cleansing before bed. i do drink a lot of orange juice with calcium in it. and my vitamin regimen seems kinda crazy, lol.
1st meal of the day
-mens multi-vitamin one a day
-MSM (1000mg)
2nd meal of the day
-MSM (1000mg)
-Vitamin C with rose hip oil (1000mg)
-Natural Zinc (50mg) (this sometimes gives me a stomache ache and diarhea cuz it has to be taken with fat food or big meal and i dont eat fat food)
3rd meal of the day
-MSM (1000mg)
-Vitamin C with rose hip oil (1000mg)
-Calcium with Vitamin D 600+
Then i try to keep myself hydrated at all times, and i avoid touching my face at all cost (it gets itchy sometimes and i got a lil white head near my mouth cuz i touched it last night). I also eat apples a lot, and my mom bought papayas for me so i been eating that sometimes. Also i eat yogurt riched in calcium and has fruit bits in it. I like to eat springrolls cuz it helps me eat salad and cucumber and meat dipped in Pineapple sauce.) Basicly i did most of the things that was recomended in the pinned thread for holistic/scar revision diet. I dont smoke anything nor drink any alcohol :naughty: , just sober playin my 360 to kill time. I don't know what else to say now really 'cept i will post some pics for you guys to see my results in the near future when i'm not lazy to cut out eyes and upload 😀 .
that's it for now, and keep your head mz 43026 and if i was you, if you do not have any acne or anything else you would want to treat instead of scars/wrinkles/depression, i would suggest you to just use aloe vera gel, make sure its pure 100 percent though and have faith and be optimistic. maybe its too soon for me to make this judgement results but if this is what one treatment has done for me so far, i can't wait to see what happens after 4 treatment :whistle: . I wish you nothing but the best and have faith, you will have WONDERFUL skin in the end and can return to a CAREFREE life. :drool: :dance: :dance:
Hey, I am using the Fruit of The Loop 100% Aloe Vera. I see you are healing better than me. My swelling went away by day 4 so I think what your seeing is permanent. It might be the Vitamins you take. I'm just taking Vitamin B6 now. I eat alot of vegetables. I avoid stuff like Soy Sauce, heard its slows down the healing of PIH. I like papaya too. I really want to find a good moistuerizer though. I have white spots on couple areas of scars but not enough to cover all of the individual scars. Great to hear your updates.
No. I don't have any acne. I will continue on Aloe because I like how it feels when my skin isn't irritated. I'm also seeing these tiny red vains on my face. I think its cause my skin is thin.
Hey guys, I'm on day 14. Skin is less red. I'm still flaky. Not seeing much improvement. What type of moistuerizer do you guys use? I've tried aloe vera, it is pretty dry and makes my skin feel tight. It also makes it more red. Simply Me: Is it the same with you?
I also used Uttery Smooth, it is nice but feels little greesy for me. I cannot use MD Forte because it burns like Aloe Vera. I'm bummed out cause I paid over $50 for that and it's useless. Right now I'm using St. Ives body lotion and it feels the best. Is there a difference btw. body lotion and face lotion? Is it also normal that my scars are still red looking in over 2 years? Should my skin be normal by now? Feel little impatient about it. What do you guys do to calm yourself down?
hello beautiful from China, :redface:
well, i been using 100% Pure Aloe Vera Gel from CVS store. my skin looks fantastic actually, the color of it seems random at places, some seem pink, most seem dark and brown like with a tan i guess. but my scars are like totally healing, i would say 2 of my scars have totally filled in!! aside from that i still have the scales on me, and i too am peeling but i do not encourage the peeling so i just try to leave it on for as long as possible. i look like i have a crazy dark/brown/black tan over my face :ninja: , but i must say that under white light, since my skin is white, it looks great, most of my scars are like smooth. i :clap: just :pray: that it will stay like this but i am like on day 6 or 7 post 1st fraxel. i'm not sure why this results varies positive for me, perhaps it is a month ago before treatment, i was doing daily walking excercises for about 3 hours a day, and this has really jump started my health and blood circulation. also i been eating very healthy and taking valuable vitamins, but i have a bad habit of sleeping as late as 4am. :wacko:
i don't really use anything except this aloe vera gel, http://www.cvs.com/CVSApp/cvs/gateway/deta...results.=submit
its pretty cheap too! i put it once in the morning after a gentle cleanser, then once more at night after cleansing before bed. i do drink a lot of orange juice with calcium in it. and my vitamin regimen seems kinda crazy, lol.
1st meal of the day
-mens multi-vitamin one a day
-MSM (1000mg)
2nd meal of the day
-MSM (1000mg)
-Vitamin C with rose hip oil (1000mg)
-Natural Zinc (50mg) (this sometimes gives me a stomache ache and diarhea cuz it has to be taken with fat food or big meal and i dont eat fat food)
3rd meal of the day
-MSM (1000mg)
-Vitamin C with rose hip oil (1000mg)
-Calcium with Vitamin D 600+
Then i try to keep myself hydrated at all times, and i avoid touching my face at all cost (it gets itchy sometimes and i got a lil white head near my mouth cuz i touched it last night). I also eat apples a lot, and my mom bought papayas for me so i been eating that sometimes. Also i eat yogurt riched in calcium and has fruit bits in it. I like to eat springrolls cuz it helps me eat salad and cucumber and meat dipped in Pineapple sauce.) Basicly i did most of the things that was recomended in the pinned thread for holistic/scar revision diet. I dont smoke anything nor drink any alcohol :naughty: , just sober playin my 360 to kill time. I don't know what else to say now really 'cept i will post some pics for you guys to see my results in the near future when i'm not lazy to cut out eyes and upload 😀 .
that's it for now, and keep your head mz 43026 and if i was you, if you do not have any acne or anything else you would want to treat instead of scars/wrinkles/depression, i would suggest you to just use aloe vera gel, make sure its pure 100 percent though and have faith and be optimistic. maybe its too soon for me to make this judgement results but if this is what one treatment has done for me so far, i can't wait to see what happens after 4 treatment :whistle: . I wish you nothing but the best and have faith, you will have WONDERFUL skin in the end and can return to a CAREFREE life. :drool: :dance: :dance:
Hey, I am using the Fruit of The Loop 100% Aloe Vera. I see you are healing better than me. My swelling went away by day 4 so I think what your seeing is permanent. It might be the Vitamins you take. I'm just taking Vitamin B6 now. I eat alot of vegetables. I avoid stuff like Soy Sauce, heard its slows down the healing of PIH. I like papaya too. I really want to find a good moistuerizer though. I have white spots on couple areas of scars but not enough to cover all of the individual scars. Great to hear your updates.
No. I don't have any acne. I will continue on Aloe because I like how it feels when my skin isn't irritated. I'm also seeing these tiny red vains on my face. I think its cause my skin is thin.
if they are red and tiny they are capillaries not veins.
i think its great people are eating healthy with fruits and vegetables. The most important thing is to increase your protein intake. the easiest way to do this is eating more red meat.
I'm sorry but it sounds like his deception is intentional! This is very wrong and a doctor should absoluctly know the difference between the words Fraxel (meaning a Reliant machine ONLY) and fractional resurfacing.
Did this doctor do the same thing to you as he did to Cubsfan? If so he should be reported to Reliant at least.
Isn't Obagi a peel? How can you do that so soon after a Fraxel??
Did Kovak say "Fraxel" or "Fractional Resurfacing"?
(The first is trademarked but the latter is a term like "photothermolysis" which can be used to describe any laser that treats the skin with microthermal zones.)
He talked about "Fraxel", but it's possible he uses that word in the same sense that some people use "Kleenex" for tissue paper. I was a little confused when he explained Fraxel at my initial consultation because he mentioned there were two types: Fractional 1540 and an older, less effective laser (the real Fraxel perhaps?). Now I understand that 1540 is Palomar. When I went for my first treatment I thought he would apply the blue dye, and I was looking for a Reliant logo on the machine. We live in a world where you can't serve Pepsi to a person who asks for Coke, so I think he could do a better job of explaining that Fraxel is a Reliant brand, and that he uses Palomar. Is the deception intentional? I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.
I posted yesterday, but the post disappeared. Don't know what happened. I'll try again to answer some questions I read. My number was 40, guess that was mjs? Don't remember how many passes, but more on my cheeks than anywhere else. She went vertical, then horizontal then vertical again, etc. Less intensity and passes on forehead, nose, above lips and chin. I don't know the density either, sorry!
Yes, I needed a driver with the meds. They will do it without meds if desired by the patient.
I think that the new machine goes higher than 40 because the PA said she was going to start lower and end higher in following treatments. I remember an earlier post that said the new Fraxel range for scarring was 30-60, but don't know if that was one of the ones confused with the Palomar laser.
I was wondering how long till my scars come back? I am loving this smooth skin, no scars, even though it is red. I had my first Fraxel II on Tues and it is now Sunday. Thanks if anyone knows.
It's hard to keep track of who is doing the original Fraxel and who is doing the Fraxel 2........I wonder if maybe starting a new thread for the Fraxel 2 patients might be in order?
I think that is a great idea. What does everyone else think? Any Fraxel 2 user want to go ahead and start a separate thread?
I'm new here so this is just an opinion and not an educated one...it would mean that we would have to check both threads everytime we are looking for info. A lot of our Fraxel info is not exclusive to one laser or another. Maybe we could post on our signatures or at the end of every post whether we are using Fraxel one or two? Just my thoughts.
I don't know for me this thread has gotten so long and so confusing. I can't seem to find much help but maybe I'm just frustrated.
Oh well, I go for my 2nd Fraxel 2 on Tuesday but I guess I found all I need to know for now. This thread just makes my eyes cross. Good luck everyone! Maybe I'll pop back in after my last one in 5 or 6 months.
wow, its like 3:40 am rite now, i spent like a couple of hours just typing in keyword "4th" and i got a lot of amazing information.
http://www.doctorskin.com.au/FraxelLaserTreatment.html
my scars resemble the first asian girl's picture. well it resembles the after picture actually. so i hope after 3 more treatment, my scars should flatten totally and i pray that i would have 
flawless skin, well not flawless but great enough for me to be comfortable in my own skin and not avoid the world.
that link alone should say a lot about this laser's power. also i found pictures of sean1977 and his improvement.. sorry to put you on blast right now bro, lol but its for the sakes of other! (who is lazy/dont got time to read all this thread)
before
http://www.acne.org/messageboard/index.php...ost&id=3904
after
http://www.acne.org/messageboard/index.php...ost&id=3905
it's been 8 days since my 1st fraxel, i was too excited by the results before but now i can say that my scars have appeared but much more leveled, id ont want to estimate a percentage but its good for 1st treatment. most of my scales are off but some still stay and i welcome them to stay longer. um, idont know what to say really cept my upper lip seems to respond not a lot or at all, but i hope it will change in later session. that's it for now, would love to hear from others that is going through this. hope that helps and good luck everyone.
wow, its like 3:40 am rite now, i spent like a couple of hours just typing in keyword "4th" and i got a lot of amazing information.
http://www.doctorskin.com.au/FraxelLaserTreatment.html
my scars resemble the first asian girl's picture. well it resembles the after picture actually. so i hope after 3 more treatment, my scars should flatten totally and i pray that i would have :dance: flawless skin, well not flawless but great enough for me to be comfortable in my own skin and not avoid the world.
that link alone should say a lot about this laser's power. also i found pictures of sean1977 and his improvement.. sorry to put you on blast right now bro, lol but its for the sakes of other! (who is lazy/dont got time to read all this thread)
before
http://www.acne.org/messageboard/index.php...ost&id=3904
after
http://www.acne.org/messageboard/index.php...ost&id=3905
it's been 8 days since my 1st fraxel, i was too excited by the results before but now i can say that my scars have appeared but much more leveled, id ont want to estimate a percentage but its good for 1st treatment. most of my scales are off but some still stay and i welcome them to stay longer. um, idont know what to say really cept my upper lip seems to respond not a lot or at all, but i hope it will change in later session. that's it for now, would love to hear from others that is going through this. hope that helps and good luck everyone.
Simply Me,
Kudos on finding such outstanding before and after pics. It's good to see some real world patients outside of the supplied marketing photos from Reliant.
Glad to hear your are getting positive results with your 1st treatment. Usually when you are an earlier responder like that you can expect the results to keep getting better after each subsequent treatment.
Still curious to know if ANYBODY on here has had real improvments with Fraxel on anything ohther than really light scarring? I have light scarring now and will post real results but just curious to know since there are tons of people on here doing it if anyone has had great improve from them? I have looked on here occasionally but have not seen a really good result yet. Thanks
Still curious to know if ANYBODY on here has had real improvments with Fraxel on anything ohther than really light scarring? I have light scarring now and will post real results but just curious to know since there are tons of people on here doing it if anyone has had great improve from them? I have looked on here occasionally but have not seen a really good result yet. Thanks
I don't think those who are around 6 mos out from their treatment are still posting. I like to think of that as a GOOD sign.
Day 17: Skin is less red. Still dry and flaky. I am seeing small improvements, can't say how much though. Right now skin feels more smooth. Some scars are partially filled. I am back applying Aloe Vera now cause skin doesn't burn ne more. I'll update when all of the dead layer of skin falls off.
I know everyone is curious about REAL results and I wish I could help, but I guess I will have to wait much longer to report because it has been 6 days and I have none of my rolling scars before first Fraxel II treatment, but obviously that is too good to be true so I will have to wait till they come back to report on first treatment results. Don't know how long it takes for the scars to come back, someone said maybe 1 week to 2 weeks? My swelling is very little if any, skin is slightly flakey, still redish to pink. Bad news is a moderate breakout around the nose and mouth probably from all of the grease I am slopping on.
I think we all need to wait a bit longer to see the true results from this Fraxel thing because most docs were grossly under treating until very recently.
Thanks for those awesome pictures! Those are the best I have ever seen with the best results. One of them of an older woman even shows a hollow in her cheek filled in. I hope they are real patients without fillers, etc. Those pictures give me hope...
just updated my signature. it's so long now!
update at day 19:
skin tone only slightly pinker than elsewhere. i can definitely see an improvement in texture and in the scars - particularly the shallow rolling ones 🙂
great idea to add the dates of treatment. that way we won't have to always remind each other how far along we are with treatment.
HI GUYS
ITis 7 at amorning and ihave alot of work to do before my meeting but no body else in the office.Thank to your helpful info because my dermatologist said that aguy came frome Saudi arabia to sell the old fraxel in avery high price but because isent to him info about fraxel 2 he refuses and he demandedthe new one.He will come to U.S FROM kuwait in FEB to check please we all need pray and support from each other because we are avictims of bad acne scarring which really no body understand the effect of it .
from kuwait best whishes and ihope every body consider me as her or his friend because no bodu will support us except us.
pretty woman 5000 FROM kUWAIT
lol, wow, kuwait... hey welcome to the boards, categorize your scars first then feel free to post and we all here will help one another.
today i resumed the hyperpigmentation cream along with aloe vera on top of it. my scars are filling in amazingly, i'm so thrilled from my 1st fraxel treatment that i look foward to the next one so bad. i want to prep my skin this week and next week for my 2nd treatment so my doc can't say anything about me demanding him to go to 20mjs. i was treated at 16mjs wit 8 passes full face and about 2 or 4 additional passes on scarred areas. that's about it for now. good luck everybody.
lol, wow, kuwait... hey welcome to the boards, categorize your scars first then feel free to post and we all here will help one another.
today i resumed the hyperpigmentation cream along with aloe vera on top of it. my scars are filling in amazingly, i'm so thrilled from my 1st fraxel treatment that i look foward to the next one so bad. i want to prep my skin this week and next week for my 2nd treatment so my doc can't say anything about me demanding him to go to 20mjs. i was treated at 16mjs wit 8 passes full face and about 2 or 4 additional passes on scarred areas. that's about it for now. good luck everybody.
Hello,
I am so glad you are getting good results! I was wondering...did your scars come back and now they are filling in or did they simply disappear after your first treatment? Thanks.