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Hi guys!
It's been a LONG time...when I used to be here Maya was still moderator (what happened to her??). The reason I haven't been here for such a long time is because....I dont't have to!! 
As you probably read my excison was very succesfull and I've pretty much gone on with my life and don't think about my (former) scar any longer.
I know I promised to post photos and I will, just going to scan them first. Feel a bit guilty for not having done that earlier...so sorry!! Life has been pretty hectic...all I can say is fixing a scar doesn't mean fixing your life, unfortunately 
I like to try the drug so that it will raise above skin level by becoming hypertrophic scar...Coz in roaacutane i can see that the side efects are hypertrophic scars
That is without a doubt the worst suggestion I have read here at Dan's site.
The hypertrophic scarring you refer to is due to reported scarring from patients who have skin resurfacing procedures whilst either on the tane or shortly afterwards. It is well known that roaccutane produced by Roche (rated number 1 worldwide corporate fraudsters) can cause scarring in certain individuals, this may be hypertrophic or indented like myself. You don't need to have resurfacing either to have this effect, acne lesions, picking at spots, scratching can all cause lifetime scarring whilst on the drug. This is due to the natural healing process being somewhat altered.
There are a number of people here on this site who would never have needed to be here had they not taken that drug.
Your skin may not be susceptible to scarring from the drug. Or maybe it will be and it will indent further, who knows. There is a world of unknown with accutane.
Lets forget about scarring for a minute. Roaccutane can cause long term side effects and the incidence of this is much higher than those liars at Roche would have you believe. I don't have one friend from school who took the drug who doesn't have a long term side effect from taking the drug (even if its something small like dryness).
It never fails to surprise me how people don't stop to think about how roaccutane can permanently stop acne. They think it happens by magic. Or possibly they believe the lies from a so called authority like Professor Cunliffe who would have you believe that it kills the diseased sebaceous glands. He is a little short on words though as to why people have long term side effects i.e 15 years plus on say very painful joints, cheilitis, dry eye syndrome, depression, memory loss.
Let me explain why that is. It is well known that vitamin A in high doses is very dangerous. Roaccutane is controlled vitamin A poisoning. Its original use was for cancer. The reason for that is because it can alter gene expresion, the way your genes are translated or even in some cases be like a fuse box and turn switches on & off for genes. It is known that the ability for roaccutane to do this can be permanent. The people who suffer for depression for 15 years after roaccutane know perfectly well that their gene for serotonin has effectively been turned off or rather now translates abnormally.
Please don't anybody write in saying that no way can your genes be changed. That is true. You are missing the point. It is the process of expressing them which gets altered.
So to summarise unless you have terrible cystic acne which it is only licensed for, you are taking a stupid gamble with roaccutane. Some get lucky but those who don't are on their own.......
Total bull started by people that are working for the wrong side, or are very uneducated about the drug. I went on Accutane and was scared of all the side effects. My doc told me that in 12 years of prescribing it he has NEVER taken anyone off because of side effects. He also put 3 out of 4 of his own children on the drug. I have also known a few people that went on the drug with no side effects besides dry lips eyes nose. I have said it before that the side effects are completely controlled with simply following a few guidelines while on the drug.
1. Go for your monthly blood work. This will show any changes that could be the sign of a problem if the Accutane is continued. Pretty simple if u have some change in a chemical in your blood get off the drug and you will be fine. There is no way from the lower starting dose that u will encounter permanant internal problems in a months time.
2. Use antibiotics to control the initial breakout period and throughout the treatment to control the acne until the Accutane does its thing. DO NOT use the cycline family of antibiotics. This is told to u and in the instructions that come with accutane. Most of the more severe side effects come form this because mixing the tane and cycline antibiotics causes pressure in the brain.
3. The face smooths out better while on Accutane does not cause more scarring. The breakout period comes when your face is still oily and in no way does the accutane effect the healing by this point. It causes possible scarring when u get dermabrasion done too soon after the drug because u have no oils in your skin to help heal it. It is common sense to not get anythign done for a few months after Accutane or at least until your face has its natural oils back.
4. The depression and suicide shit makes me laugh my ass off everytime I see someone post it. Anybody with a brain can figure out that sever acne and scars causes depression. Depression causes suicide. Would I be crazy to assume that the depression and suicide were from teh terrible acne and not the drug?
There is no way to get around it, peopel that knock Accutane either have never used it because they believe the rumors and stories, or they had terrible acne and scars to begin with and are angry looking to blame something for it.
Nobody should be afraid of this drug. Period.
I too am indebted to Accutane. I was so happy when my derm let me take it. I took it in 1991 and that is the only thing that got my acne under control--finally. I did have the initial horrible breakout but I stuck with it cause I was so hopeful. I had to stop wearing soft contacts, use Blistex lip balm like crazy and get the monthly blood test. Other than that, it was a lifesaver for me.
Now, my son is 16 and struggling with DAMN acne. I feel so bad for him. He has used Differin and Benzacline but is now on perscription strength BP. Every day I look at him and know he got this f**king curse because of my genes. I would love to be able to find an answer for him. We have an appointment next Friday with the derm (again). I'm hopeful he can get on Accutane since topicals have not worked. I fear the derm won't allow it since his is not totally cystic.
Thank you Accutane.
hi everyone,
i just had a saucer scar on my left cheek excised with a scalpel by a reputable plastic surgeon in northern california. i have four stitches on the wound. anyways, i thought that the stitches would be taken out in less than a week, but he specifically said that he wanted them in longer. i trust him, and yet i am nervous about possibly having tiny stitch mark 'holes' in my skin...from what i have read, nobody has had their stitches left in for even seven days, and i am instructed to leave them in for twelve days??
hi everyone,
i just had a saucer scar on my left cheek excised with a scalpel by a reputable plastic surgeon in northern california. i have four stitches on the wound. anyways, i thought that the stitches would be taken out in less than a week, but he specifically said that he wanted them in longer. i trust him, and yet i am nervous about possibly having tiny stitch mark 'holes' in my skin...from what i have read, nobody has had their stitches left in for even seven days, and i am instructed to leave them in for twelve days??
i would like to know ur end result and the doc that did it,
thatnks
I too am indebted to Accutane. I was so happy when my derm let me take it. I took it in 1991 and that is the only thing that got my acne under control--finally. I did have the initial horrible breakout but I stuck with it cause I was so hopeful. I had to stop wearing soft contacts, use Blistex lip balm like crazy and get the monthly blood test. Other than that, it was a lifesaver for me.
Now, my son is 16 and struggling with DAMN acne. I feel so bad for him. He has used Differin and Benzacline but is now on perscription strength BP. Every day I look at him and know he got this f**king curse because of my genes. I would love to be able to find an answer for him. We have an appointment next Friday with the derm (again). I'm hopeful he can get on Accutane since topicals have not worked. I fear the derm won't allow it since his is not totally cystic.
Thank you Accutane.
If I were you, I would look into Levulan w/Photolight or V-Beam (don't do the blue light). The procedure is known as PDT (photo dynamic therapy) and it REALLY works. I have done it several times b/c it stops my breakouts SUBSTANTIALLY every time I do it. I thought it even worked better than accutane. The great thing about the procedure is, that it not only stops breakouts, but the laser clears up redness from past breakouts. It really is a great procedure, and can't recommend it enough. Good luck.
Ryan
If you want a more or less permanent solution, however, I think accutane is the way to go. I received glycolic peels monthly before getting accutane which cleared me up for about three weeks before I would start breaking out again. Sad thing is that eventually every single pimple you get will leave a scar, deep or superficial.
I too wish I had gone on Accutane much earlier.
Maria, how's it going with the pics?
hi delta force,
after being nervous about possible holes in my skin left over from the stitches, i went in after 4 days to have my PS look it over. he said that the excision was healing nicely and that there was no need to wait any longer to take them out. so i had the 4 stitches removed and i cant really inform about the progress/end result as there are steri-strips over them. ive been instructed to leave the strips on for 4-5 days. i have mainly scarred pores, but this giant crater on my left cheek was my main concern, especially since i will be having fraxel treatments in the near future. my PS wanted to maximize my results. PM me if you would like to know my PS info.
4. The depression and suicide shit makes me laugh my ass off everytime I see someone post it. Anybody with a brain can figure out that sever acne and scars causes depression. Depression causes suicide. Would I be crazy to assume that the depression and suicide were from teh terrible acne and not the drug?
There is no way to get around it, peopel that knock Accutane either have never used it because they believe the rumors and stories, or they had terrible acne and scars to begin with and are angry looking to blame something for it.
Nobody should be afraid of this drug. Period.
You know, they control the studies that find these side effects. Incidence of depression is higher in those who take accutane than in those who don't, and both groups have bad acne and likely scarring. I'll never know for certain, but I'm pretty sure accutane gave me depression. I suddenly never wanted to leave my bed and would sit hunched in the shower every night crying for an hour. All this despite the fact that my acne was pretty much gone at that point.
That said, the depression didn't last long and I had no other side effects and certainly no permanent side effects. I'm not mad at the drug because the fact is that it worked and it worked well. My outbreak was flat-out disfiguring and rather painful, and accutane got rid of it within a month and I've never broken out again since. Obviously, though, a drug that works that well is pretty damn strong and to expect it not to have any side effects is just naive. There's a reason you get the monthly blood work and have to be prescreened to even be eligible for use.
Hi guys!
It's been a LONG time...when I used to be here Maya was still moderator (what happened to her??). The reason I haven't been here for such a long time is because....I dont't have to!!
As you probably read my excison was very succesfull and I've pretty much gone on with my life and don't think about my (former) scar any longer.
I know I promised to post photos and I will, just going to scan them first. Feel a bit guilty for not having done that earlier...so sorry!! Life has been pretty hectic...all I can say is fixing a scar doesn't mean fixing your life, unfortunately
That's damn selfish, please post a picture as myself and others would desperatly like to see it. You're problems with scars are over, ours are not so reach out to us.
That's damn selfish, please post a picture as myself and others would desperatly like to see it. You're problems with scars are over, ours are not so reach ot to us.
She doesn't owe you anything whittle.
And Dan doesn't owe us anything either. This messageboard you are using is out of the goodness of his heart, he gains nothing by it.
In fact nobody here owes you anything.
That's damn selfish, please post a picture as myself and others would desperatly like to see it. You're problems with scars are over, ours are not so reach ot to us.
She doesn't owe you anything whittle.
And Dan doesn't owe us anything either. This messageboard you are using is out of the goodness of his heart, he gains nothing by it.
In fact nobody here owes you anything.
Rupert mate, that was a bit harsh 
You know you would prefer to see a picture of the healed scars than rather not?
hi, i know maybe this is not the right place to ask for help, but i'd like to ask for info about rolling like scars treatment... i have 3 big chicken pox scars at my checks, and subsicion seemed to work well for rolling scars so i was wondering...
and there is a huge amount of info here, it's nice seeing ppl sharing and helping each other...
thx a lot
hi, i know maybe this is not the right place to ask for help, but i'd like to ask for info about rolling like scars treatment... i have 3 big chicken pox scars at my checks, and subsicion seemed to work well for rolling scars so i was wondering...
and there is a huge amount of info here, it's nice seeing ppl sharing and helping each other...
thx a lot
Hi Shinchan,
Welcome to the forum.
I have heard members having subcision and a filler for their chicken pox scars with good success. You might want to try typing in "chicken pox" in the search bar of the scar forum.
If you don't find enough information there, you might want to start a new topic asking members their procedures for chicken pox scarring.
hi, i know maybe this is not the right place to ask for help, but i'd like to ask for info about rolling like scars treatment... i have 3 big chicken pox scars at my checks, and subsicion seemed to work well for rolling scars so i was wondering...
and there is a huge amount of info here, it's nice seeing ppl sharing and helping each other...
thx a lot
Hi Shinchan,
Welcome to the forum.
I have heard members having subcision and a filler for their chicken pox scars with good success. You might want to try typing in "chicken pox" in the search bar of the scar forum.
If you don't find enough information there, you might want to start a new topic asking members their procedures for chicken pox scarring.
thx for the advice ... had run a search through the web for some time now, and hope to find a way to get rid/improve my scars...
i can tell all you guys over here r good ppl, u all share your experiences to help others... keep it that way, and hope you get better too
hi, i know maybe this is not the right place to ask for help, but i'd like to ask for info about rolling like scars treatment... i have 3 big chicken pox scars at my checks, and subsicion seemed to work well for rolling scars so i was wondering...
and there is a huge amount of info here, it's nice seeing ppl sharing and helping each other...
thx a lot
Hi Shinchan,
Welcome to the forum.
I have heard members having subcision and a filler for their chicken pox scars with good success. You might want to try typing in "chicken pox" in the search bar of the scar forum.
If you don't find enough information there, you might want to start a new topic asking members their procedures for chicken pox scarring.
thx for the advice
i can tell all you guys over here r good ppl, u all share your experiences to help others... keep it that way, and hope you get better too
maria, I was looking for a more definitive solution, like the subcision... and maybe a laser or chem peeling after, what do u think
Ok so let's see if I can make the photo attachment work...
The first photo is a before shot taking with my analog camera and the other two after shots taking with my digital. The light is a little bit different but I think you can see the BIG improvement. I still have a small hypopigmentation after the laser I had several years ago (big mistake - no laser can improve an ice-pick scar).
I'm 100% satisfied with my excison!!
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