Subcision, possible excision on the deeper ones, followed by possible dermabrasion as deep as you can get it done (because many doctors do light dermabrasion and call it aggressive and it's bs). Ultimately if you get excision you'd want to do things like subcision and/or dermabrasion or another resurfacing to blend the excision.

I think you can be improved a good deal but you really need a good doctor and a good plan because the facial scars probably require 2-3 different treatments possibly several times.

It's also really hard without cash because many of these things are expensive. Try to look into any sort of insurance coverage if any exist. Sometimes for more extensive scarring it might be covered but otherwise it's just going to have to be done over your lifetime probably.

Rolling/needling will do nada, nothing. Lasers are the wrong procedure as some scars are deep some are too shapely for a blunt laser.

No excision keep on doing phenol cross session atleast 5 to 6 sessions space two to three months. This will blunt the edge of the scar

Excision wont give you overal difference. After 5 to 6 sesssions you can go for excision if it doesnt improve.

On 11/14/2022 at 2:59 AM, harmlessboy1441 said:

Subcision, possible excision on the deeper ones, followed by possible dermabrasion as deep as you can get it done (because many doctors do light dermabrasion and call it aggressive and it's bs). Ultimately if you get excision you'd want to do things like subcision and/or dermabrasion or another resurfacing to blend the excision.

I think you can be improved a good deal but you really need a good doctor and a good plan because the facial scars probably require 2-3 different treatments possibly several times.

It's also really hard without cash because many of these things are expensive. Try to look into any sort of insurance coverage if any exist. Sometimes for more extensive scarring it might be covered but otherwise it's just going to have to be done over your lifetime probably.

Rolling/needling will do nada, nothing. Lasers are the wrong procedure as some scars are deep some are too shapely for a blunt laser.

Hi! Unfortunately, there are no really cool doctors in my city... Basically, everyone offers Euclidean lasers, for example, mcl31 dermablate... I have studied this topic for a long time and understand that there are a lot of bad reviews. But I need to start fighting and not just sit... I live in eastern Europe, there is no insurance anywhere there, but the procedures are cheaper than in the same America... Almost all of my old and new scars have a pink.. They can also add visual volume. I added another photo where the scars are very clearly visible at an angle (last photo is scary mb coz too more shadows.. in real life it no so deep). I would not like to do a strong dermabrasion as it may be not effective coz i need produce collagen. Could I replace this with 10-15 microdermabrasion procedures? I've heard a lot of good reviews about rf and derma stamp, but I don't know why you say that. I'm still young) and maybe I can build up some collagen in my atrophic scars. Anyway, thanks for the answer!

Btw what about my back?

Bump - i think that my problem is similar with this topic...

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On 11/14/2022 at 12:57 PM, getsmart121 said:

No excision keep on doing phenol cross session atleast 5 to 6 sessions space two to three months. This will blunt the edge of the scar

Excision won™t give you overal difference. After 5 to 6 sesssions you can go for excision if it doesn™t improve.

Hello! Do you mean phenol and TCA? Can you recommend % of concentration?

And Thanks for answer!  maybe I could use special injections with collagen with rf and needling? I also understand that I need several different treatments ... Can you suggest all the options? I'm on vacation soon... Winter... there will be no sun and it will be possible to do more aggressive procedures...

These are rolling or boxcars dermabrasion likely wont work unless u have hard scar edges. Lets put it this way if u had treatment every 3 months with phenol then for a year you would see much more collagen growth the microneedling in the same year. Studies have shows that phenol produces the lost amount of collagen

4 hours ago, getsmart121 said:

These are rolling or boxcars dermabrasion likely wont work unless u have hard scar edges. Lets put it this way if u had treatment every 3 months with phenol then for a year you would see much more collagen growth the microneedling in the same year. Studies have shows that phenol produces the lost amount of collagen

thank you, where i can find info about phenol pils and collagen stimulation ? Actually i dont think what i have a lot of hard angles on scars... 1st need stimulate collagen... then polish.

By the way, will there be any sense in using special creams or pills? Vitamin C for example and needling...Because my skin looks tired and dried up... Perhaps it's because of differin...

Look in pubmed davin lim published a post on this. Also when I chatted with dr rullan he mentioned that phenol acid produces the most amount of collagen

https://www.instagram.com/p/Ck7rZMxLkhf/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

Excuse me, can any of you help me?

Up to what layer of the skin does Rullan phenol reach, does anyone know?

Look up his phenol study

43 minutes ago, getsmart121 said:

Look up his phenol study

If I can't do phenol in my city because no one can do it..., Other ways?

Tca cross but risk of widening

1 hour ago, getsmart121 said:

Tca cross but risk of widening

Bad to hear it ok I will try treatment without peels, thank you!

Cannula subcision, to connect with all scars using the fan method
after 7 days carry out used fat transfer with PRP,
Your body will absorb some of the transferred fat, but not all, the rest will be permanent.
Platelet-rich plasma, due to its components, makes fat grafts survive in their new residence in a good percentage,
This will make your scars appear more on the surface,
We are looking for a natural and permanent filler.
Using the seed and harvest method,
first harvest 40% permanent fat in total.
second harvest 80% total permanent fat.
to apply the grease well with PRP it would have to be
20% PPR
80% purified fat

in retrospect,subcision, 7 days later perform the fat grafts with PRP (repeat this procedure 3 times) spaced in time, you can consult your specialist when it is convenient to repeat the procedure.

you are a good candidate for this method.

2 hours ago, Troner said:

Cannula subcision, to connect with all scars using the fan method
after 7 days carry out used fat transfer with PRP,
Your body will absorb some of the transferred fat, but not all, the rest will be permanent.
Platelet-rich plasma, due to its components, makes fat grafts survive in their new residence in a good percentage,
This will make your scars appear more on the surface,
We are looking for a natural and permanent filler.
Using the seed and harvest method,
first harvest 40% permanent fat in total.
second harvest 80% total permanent fat.
to apply the grease well with PRP it would have to be
20% PPR
80% purified fat

in retrospect,subcision, 7 days later perform the fat grafts with PRP (repeat this procedure 3 times) spaced in time, you can consult your specialist when it is convenient to repeat the procedure.

you are a good candidate for this method.

Thank you. I also have pigmentation (red, white marks). How I can fix it?

Glycolic acid peeling at 30% weekly, it helped me a lot for the red marks
I did this myself there is a lot of information on the internet.