i have a question since i have subcision coming up and the only thing im worried about is do those numbing injections hurt lol

On 10/16/2020 at 8:11 PM, npbm said:

That's ok. I would say I seeimprovement, but it's small. I don't think any scars are eliminated, but theedges are smoother. Improvement is in the eye of the beholder though - is the expense of the treatments worth the amount of money that I've spent? Maybe not.

I know it's a LOT of money, like A LOT. But in my opinion it's worth it! Firstly, you do get improvement to some extent. The scars get shallower, the edges softer, you feel better and more confident in your skin. The second reason for me is psychological - I know that I won't be content until I've tried the treatments that are available, until I've done my best to improve my scars. Maybe some treatment would give good improvement, maybe not so much, but I've got to do my best and try.

I am also very aware of the fact that whatever I do, I won't be able to get rid of my scars completely. Once a scar, always a scar. I've just accepted it. It's crucial to manage expectations well.

That being said, I do think that your scars have approved a lot. I'd take your improvement any time!

On 10/16/2020 at 9:48 PM, Sirius Lee said:

This warrants some serious discussion IMO. Is certain treatment or doctor worth the money for meager improvement? What's worse is that these doctors and manufacturers are predatory. Just as those who peddle snakeoil, they prey on the vulnerable. And with the rise of the number of acne scar sufferers seeking treatment, this is only getting worse by the day.

I must say I disagree with this statement. I believe that the doctors and the aestheticians really try to help, try to do manual procedures which offer the most improvement, try to keep up with the new technology. It's just the nature of the atrophic scars - they are very very difficult to treat. It's also a problem of managing expectations. Currently, the best you can get is improvement to some extent depending on the severity of the scars. People expect their scars to be gone and that's just close to impossible withthe current dermatology treatments.

31 minutes ago, acknee4life said:

i have a question since i have subcision coming up and the only thing im worried about is do those numbing injections hurt lol

Don't laugh. These injections are the worst thing. Worse than subcision itself. You will be well advised toa pain medication before subcision, no kidding.

12 minutes ago, BlueMaloney said:

Don't laugh. These injections are the worst thing. Worse than subcision itself. You will be well advised toa pain medication before subcision, no kidding.

that is definitely not what i wanted to hear. i asked the office if i can use topical numbing cream before hand and they were like no need . i've had numbing injections in my lips and gums before and from what i remember it wasn't as bad as i thought it'd be. i wonder if this will be worse

2 minutes ago, acknee4life said:

that is definitely not what i wanted to hear. i asked the office if i can use topical numbing cream before hand and they were like no need . i've had numbing injections in my lips and gums before and from what i remember it wasn't as bad as i thought it'd be. i wonder if this will be worse

I'm sorry. I'm just being honest. Those were most painful to me. Like needles in your skin inserted at different angles. But everybody has different pain perception. Maybe it won't be so painful for you.

I'd really take an pain killer before subcision though.

10 minutes ago, BlueMaloney said:

I'm sorry. I'm just being honest. Those were most painful to me. Like needles in your skin inserted at different angles. But everybody has different pain perception. Maybe it won't be so painful for you.

I'd really take an pain killer before subcision though.

don't be sorry, i need honesty! so just take some advil before?

4 hours ago, acknee4life said:

that is definitely not what i wanted to hear. i asked the office if i can use topical numbing cream before hand and they were like no need . i've had numbing injections in my lips and gums before and from what i remember it wasn't as bad as i thought it'd be. i wonder if this will be worse

Well, really depends on what they use for subcision. If it's a blunt cannula, you'll be treated with a small amount of local anesthesia before the procedure. If it's Nokor, you'll get both numbing cream and anesthesia.

This wasn't what I meant. Having a realistic expectation is one thing, gouging prices is not. Even worse, suggesting and providing procedures that they clearly know will not help the patient is clearly unethical to say the least.

4 hours ago, Sirius Lee said:

 

This wasn't what I meant. Having a realistic expectation is one thing, gouging prices is not. Even worse, suggesting and providing procedures that they clearly know will not help the patient is clearly unethical to say the least.

That's true. Treatments are so overpriced especially in the US, especially the laser and energy treatments! And doctors don't always tell you you're going toget slight improvement, your scars are not going away. Many people are disappointed afterwards.

On 10/18/2020 at 12:26 AM, Sirius Lee said:

Well, really depends on what they use for subcision. If it's a blunt cannula, you'll be treated with a small amount of local anesthesia before the procedure. If it's Nokor, you'll get both numbing cream and anesthesia.

This wasn't what I meant. Having a realistic expectation is one thing, gouging prices is not. Even worse, suggesting and providing procedures that they clearly know will not help the patient is clearly unethical to say the least.

Wait, some people get anesthesia for subcision? My doctor didn't do any numbing at all. I wouldn't say it was "painful", more just a really odd sensation from all the popping - like the feeling that you're going to pass out from something that shouldn't be happening to your face.

drenna29

wow! that sounds great. Just curious, how many sessions of Subcision are there?

On 11/22/2020 at 6:40 PM, drenna29 said:

Wait, some people get anesthesia for subcision? My doctor didn't do any numbing at all. I wouldn't say it was "painful", more just a really odd sensation from all the popping - like the feeling that you're going to pass out from something that shouldn't be happening to your face.

I'm surprised some people don't get anesthesia

21 hours ago, tellurium said:

drenna29

wow! that sounds great. Just curious, how many sessions of Subcision are there?

I still need more. That was just for one with some filler - to be fair, I think the filler has a bit of lidocaine in it but I don't think it did anything to numb the feeling of the actual subcision.

Edit: I mean, it's not like they inject it *before* the subcision.