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Orange peel skin from Fraxel and PRP

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(@kapilkc)

Posted : 03/01/2017 10:28 pm

I had a few Fraxel and PRP treatments to repair my acne scarring and ended up with really bad skin quality that looks worse than an orange peel.
(To be precise 3 Fraxel treatments and two PRP treatments --all of them one month apart)
I have wrinkles and inflammation all over my face and it has made even looking into the mirror really difficult.
I have no clue how to fix this and now all I do is keep looking for solutions online or dermatologists or atbeauty clinics.
Dermatologists and beauty clinics keep dumping more treatment packages. The spa where I got the treatments refuses to even acknowledge my condition (How can someone be so cruel)

Based on what I have read about skin that looks like mine, I might have burned the skin barrier and destroyed the facial fat (But this is just my assumption because my skin matches the appearance of lost barrier and fat lost texture)

I have read a lot of articles mentioning what these harsh treatments can do to your skin. Wish I had read those before doing something so drastic.
I read an article on how emu oil and honey helped a lady who had similar skin texture but she got that orange peel like texture from using too much Vitamin A on her face. I keep reading on forums that thermal damage is irreversible and skin can never recover from it. It pains me emotionally so much every time I read something like that.

Now I seem to be stuck in a dark zone with little hope for light, a way to fix my skin. I wouldn't wish this on my worst enemy but does anyone have any experience with this kind of situation or know any treatments that can help my situation.

I would really appreciate some help on this.
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(@beautifulambition)

Posted : 03/02/2017 4:00 am

Sculptra is all you can really do for deep fat loss or fat grafting.

For superficial texture issues you can do TCA Peels.

I like microneedle to stimulate collagen (owndoc.com derminator) and the following month do a tca peel.

It was probably the energy, this is very possible with lasers. Sounds like lasers are not right for you.

For large pores in the faq below in my sig. goto the large pores area under the skin section, some more options.

Have you tried taking HA supplements, fish oil, and pure ha serum for the face these help as well, do not exfoliate.

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(@nyc7)

Posted : 02/04/2018 2:11 am

Did you improve? I've seen the post about the honey and emu oil and she has sent many on their way to worsen . She posted photos of other people thrn when called out she said hers was 'similar' . Honey is not your friend if you hsve laser damage , its drying and exfoiliating and good for peoole with acne , not laser damage . My feeling is she did that to screw with peoole and everyone talks about it like a success story . She used retin a 3 times and claimed she looked like a laser victim . She was also using proactive ... laser damaged peoole can't use proactive , thry can Barely tolerate water .
im really sorry . I'm in the same boat after 1 ipl, new derm said do nothing and thsts what I hsve been doing . It's really devastating, the damage is extensive and basically we are melted . I haven't found a single story on healing , as they update they look worse and worse , it's like a nightmare .

let me know if anything helped you .

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(@obi-wan)

Posted : 02/04/2018 4:49 am

Target scar types. That is the best way. Fraxel makes great lasers like the 1927, but really bad lasers like the RePair (pulse stacking CO2 with consumables), the 1550 is an all rounder, but does very little. PRP can help heal up faster. Sick and tired of Spas and Dermatologist packaging treatments. Acne scar revision is medical, not cosmetic. Sorry to hear about your experience. I have little or no respect for Fraxel- Solta. No need to add consumables, pure greed by laser companies. Remember, for scar revision, often manual is better than 'laser'. Wishing you well.

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(@dazzed)

Posted : 02/04/2018 7:03 am

I can personally confirm that lasers CAN leave your skin with an enlarged pores and orange peel texture. I had one round of co2 laser only on my cheeks and it left a grid pattern and enlarged pores / orange peel texture exactly where the laser struck. The demarcation starts and stops exactly where the laser was used, so I know with 100% certainty that the laser caused this bad texture.

People report this complication all the time, but the laser companies and doctors who shill for them deny it relentlessly. Luckily, over time, the texture got better, which I attribute to retin-A use. However, to this day I can still see some of the textural changes caused by the laser.

I was so alarmed by this result that I swore never to do another session, and thank god. I would never do co2 laser, specifically fractioned lasers again.

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Posted : 02/04/2018 5:33 pm

10 hours ago, dazzed said:

I can personally confirm that lasers CAN leave your skin with an enlarged pores and orange peel texture. I had one round of co2 laser only on my cheeks and it left a grid pattern and enlarged pores / orange peel texture exactly where the laser struck. The demarcation starts and stops exactly where the laser was used, so I know with 100% certainty that the laser caused this bad texture.

People report this complication all the time, but the laser companies and doctors who shill for them deny it relentlessly. Luckily, over time, the texture got better, which I attribute to retin-A use. However, to this day I can still see some of the textural changes caused by the laser.

I was so alarmed by this result that I swore never to do another session, and thank god. I would never do co2 laser, specifically fractioned lasers again.

Did you get better ? 1 ipl ruined me . I can't leave home . Is there any hope ?

Just now, Nyc7 said:
10 hours ago, dazzed said:

I can personally confirm that lasers CAN leave your skin with an enlarged pores and orange peel texture. I had one round of co2 laser only on my cheeks and it left a grid pattern and enlarged pores / orange peel texture exactly where the laser struck. The demarcation starts and stops exactly where the laser was used, so I know with 100% certainty that the laser caused this bad texture.

People report this complication all the time, but the laser companies and doctors who shill for them deny it relentlessly. Luckily, over time, the texture got better, which I attribute to retin-A use. However, to this day I can still see some of the textural changes caused by the laser.

I was so alarmed by this result that I swore never to do another session, and thank god. I would never do co2 laser, specifically fractioned lasers again.

Did you get better ? 1 ipl ruined me . I can't leave home . Is there any hope ?

Oh you used retin a . Can't do that , way too strong even at the lowest dose . Glad you got better .

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(@sirius-lee)

Posted : 02/04/2018 8:00 pm

IMO laser should only be reserved for evening out surface irregularity like well-defined boxcar edges. Other than that, you're much better sticking with other methods of treatment.

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(@dazzed)

Posted : 02/04/2018 8:12 pm

8 minutes ago, Sirius Lee said:

IMO laser should only be reserved for evening out surface irregularity like well-defined boxcar edges. Other than that, you're much better sticking with other methods of treatment.

Totally agree, lasers should be used to soften the edges of sharp-border scars. What I really hate is how many doctors will coerce patients into doing their entire face, even areas where there is no scarring. I absolutely refused to do that because it was excessive and unnecessary, and I am so glad I did not do that. It would have messed up the texture of my good skin as well. I'm not saying other people can't get good results with laser, I just think it poses a risk and you have to always do a test spot first (but even that is an unreliable indicator of how you will ultimately heal).

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(@sirius-lee)

Posted : 02/04/2018 11:34 pm

3 hours ago, dazzed said:

It would have messed up the texture of my good skin as well.

I've been saying for years that laser would thin out your skin and give orange peel texture, but nobody would listen, ggrrrr!!! >:(>:( 

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(@nyc7)

Posted : 02/05/2018 3:11 am

6 hours ago, Sirius Lee said:

IMO laser should only be reserved for evening out surface irregularity like well-defined boxcar edges. Other than that, you're much better sticking with other methods of treatment.

Fully agree, I had two dark spots on the top of my lip becayde I used retin a 2.5 years ago and under my nose hypopigmented creating a contrast . A simple cream would have done the trick but this greedy & dshonest derm said that ipl was the best for melasma and she would use s small circle . First time seemed ok, bathroom dark
and so Is this city, she wanted to "hit a few spots " on my face and I said no thanks . I don't , or didn't have texture irregularity . Then the best time she said oh we are using broadband light and I said no, I can't just switch up , what if I hypopigment? She said oh no, that's impossible, which I should have left right then. She gave me the hit a few spots line and said it would be just on the side where I had s few , so might hyper p, that I never saw it even while applying blush everyday . Anyways , she said it was a small circle and started distracting me with dumb questions , Sne did two pulses on each side of the upper lip , after I had her define where she saw the spots so no confusion and going outside those two areas. I figured it has to be a small applicator tip because the spots were each the size of half a dime . She went on my face and it happened so fast I didn't think much happened .

Turns out s was using that large square they use for the legs for hair removal because bbl was first put on the market for that, 30 years ago! It was not dry good at removing hair so they renamed it so these dr's could use the machines they purchased and they became cheap or buy.

she used no eye protection on me for I figured it was because she was way down now my upper lip. Later found out they're supposed to use cooling gel which also never happened , nor did she tape my hairline .

my ace was burning and pieces of skin fell off exposing raw flesh . I called, every saud it was fine. I tested cerave on my nose figuring she didn't go there and it turned super red and streaks etched ino my nose before my eyes . Blood came under the skin. A week later I started hypo-p on my face and she said I just developed pityrais alba

my head swelled up big that when I got to the er, the dr tried to contact her but she had time for such trivial matters

I started breaking out in hives , face burned , white lines started going across my face , my texture went 3D, it was a nightmare .

went to anotherderm and he said I have white squares covering my entire face and my skin was waxy. He asked if I had CO2!

it was miserable for 7 weeks , I looked like I had bad dermabrasion . No cream was tolerated . I used one for burns and got on oral steroids and antihistamines .

i watched my face literally wrinkle up, bizarre designs were showing up on my face , hyper p and hypo p, and in the end I had gigantic pores when I couldn't see my pores previously , waxy skin, it turned metallic silver and pink, like a hologram , gross orange peel texture and just horrible scars and dents .

she finakky saw me and said it's just inflammation for the pores and dryness for the waxy skin. She went on to forge the medical records claiming I had used high potency topical steroids and had s face rash for a year , neither ever happened . Then she hinted I had an autoimmune disease in my records . The craziest part is she deleted most my photos and put a brown cast from the top of the cheeks down on a photo and entered that I had 3 bbl on my entire face !

I went another derm that does a lot of laser and she said I was burned by too settings and ipl is the worst thing for melasma and indeed it is , the two darker spots are not brown like a leather shoe.

No one has come back from this . I have fabricated medical records and a ruined face . I wish I just lived with the 2 dark spots but I had for 2.5 years and never thought this 'top' Manhattan derm would do something like this. Even when I went bsck she maintained it was a small circle even when I said look st the squares my face! She had someone look up my records from the hospital where the second derm worked bevaude he called it a square si she wrote in my records it was a square . My dr's there told me she called with specific info I had not told her about my gynecology appts and a red vascular lesion I had treated on my nose. Never told her that either . It was so obviiis what she did .

so now I hsve metallic silver/pink net over my entire face , waxy skin underneath , orange peel texture , giant pores , destroyed pigment , under my eyes are black , my vision is so blurry and light hurts , hives , my thyroid went crazy as labs were run for it with the allergist , crepe skin , micro wrinkles , my skin lols melted on my nose and my nose has so many lines it looks wrinkles and these weird grid marks that are tiny squares with circles inside and tiny dots that are pinholes running in perfectly straight lines . My texture is the worst , all these weird designs on my cheeks , V's, squiggles , round circles , boxes , it's like a collage of hell.

i write this long post to warn others never to do ipl or laser , they're disastrous . Oh yeah , it kills the elastin , if you touch my face the imprint is permanent . Nice feature . any pressure leave deep razor like lines and my face looks flat . It's totally dehydrated and I hsve no real skin so I just get transdermal water loss .

Never do this unless you don't want an epidermis , or a barrier and want a bunch of scars and weird texture and the thinnest 'skin' you hsve ever seen . You get a thermal burn and damage to the dermis . Many hsve fat loss and they're like 23 with faces of a 50
year old. Under my eyes look weird , they don't connect smoothly to the top of the cheek anymore , there is s drop, maybe 6 months from now I get the fat loss too . It causes fat cell death .many hsve had to get fat transfers , its bad . And none of these risks aside from pigment chsnges are on the consent , of they wrote texture chsnges alone , no one would do it , or elastin loss or fat loss . There are people who have killed thensejves over this, check out the Angela Walker story . Pretty woman that they destroyed . Dr's know this is the outcome from many and do not care . One dr said ipl accounts for the most lawsuits .

Never do it unless you want to age 20 years in 8 weeks. I don't know what's beyond this but it's consumed my life and very depressed and feel violated because I didn't want my whole face done . The derm has some serious problem . It's not money because you pay full fee even for a dime size trestmrbt area and I paid it the first time for 2 pulses and was fine with it , just don't damage me! I don't know , some people say it seems like it was imtentional, why go on my cheeks when I was holding them with my hands saying don't go here and she said take your hands off ? Why lie about it being a small square then fabricate Med records to account for all the damage , she put in work crafting that narrative and was really pleased with herself . Little does she know I can easily disprove all of it and I'm not letting it go

oh , she prescribed topical. steroids , lol! Never picked it up and the worst thing you can put on no skin face , it thins skin! Then she called in sulfacamide sulfer wash and lotion , a very. drying and exfoilating product that would have truly destroyed me and put me in the Hospital had I used it . She was hoping to finish me off .

If anyonr has recovered , please let me know. . Only thing ive able to reverse are the micro wrinkles . I stopped washing and apply notjinb to my face for 12 days and they resolved . But my face is a mess .

Please never , have laser or ipl, one young girl had acne scars and now she has scars 3 times the area and bigger pores , it's been 3 years and she only got worse , the dr's photos show it all. Some acne scars are better than a destroyed face . Learn to appreciate your skin , treat it gently , don't exfoiliate , don't use harsh products . If the scars are bad , go to someone really skilled and get filler. It's ok to not hsve perfect skin, look where perfection seeking got me? Just be grateful your skin is natural , and has nice areas and kmow that acne changes . I can't claim to know the suffering of acne but most peoole don't notice what you do and I know it's about you not other people , but if you treat you're skin gentle , you'll get better . I'm saying this to anyone reading this . Be grateful for what you hsve because it's hell losing it all overnight , you'll very for your previous skin and face .

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Posted : 03/27/2023 2:25 pm

This is really helpful. I have been struggling with my skin and depression for a couple years. I thought it was mostly my fault, but it sounds like lasers can be bad for so many and create weird, awful texture, fat loss, and wrinkles from thermal damage. I lost skin (fat loss) with a halo laser done at medispa - too aggressive and went after a wrinkle I didn't even know existed, creating more scarrring. I was also sensitive to the sun for 5 months! I had done a light fraxel 6 months prior w/derm but when I brought up concerns after that laser and other procedures she kept adding to my regular to dos - laser genesis, hydra facial, etc.... I decided to go elsewhere. Big mistake. I should have done nothing. Fast forward 1.5 years, I ended up back at my derm, and she insisted that I do another Fraxel to fill in the holes that the halo created... well, that didn't go over well. It reversed everything, wrinkles, sun damage, scars. So then she tried to fix it and do aggressive laser genesis which left my skin red and waxy/ leathery. When all she said to do was Retin A, good luck. I was left to my own devices. I tried baking soda paste trying gently on my face to soften skin. Ended up breaking skin and then went under Red light treatment for 15 min which burned my entire face. I think that was prob the WORST thermal damage. The place claimed it was impossible for a Red Light to burn. Not true! Ever since, I've had rosacea, eczema, and scars growing in ugly ... i see the lines from the fraxel and the scars from the halo and the orange peel texture on my cheeks and chin and forehead. really everywhere. and any time i have a new rosacea acne, it leaeves a scar, so what can i do to help the scars???? laser genesis seems to help lighten the skin so you don't see the defined scars as much but is it tightening and adding wrinkles too??? I have read SO much. How can I get rid of the orange peel and broken capillaries and blend in the scars without any laser? BBL was recommended by my friend/plastic surgeon but sounds like that is a bad idea if my skin barrier is still struggling to bounce back. I should not get a line every time I break out, should I at age 47??? I used to have such healthy skin with just a few rosacea scars. Are TCA peels ok and what is the result of that? Better texture? Lightening? What about the red/broken capillaries? THanks for any thoughts here. I am desperate to help but clearly I've made all worse.

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