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(@beccagrace68)

Posted : 01/12/2017 8:24 am

I recently had this random scarring on my cheeks. I used accurate over 10 years ago and haven't had any issues until recently when these scars literally appeared over night. No derm's or doctors know what to tell me or act like I'm crazy. I did have blood work done that showed low vitamin b12. I'm at my wits end. I'm going to see a naturopath doctor in a few weeks as I know something is terribly wrong. The worst part is no one else acknowleging I'm not crazy! Any suggestions?

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(@quanhenry)

Posted : 01/14/2017 12:09 am

Your skin looks excellent.

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(@beautifulambition)

Posted : 01/14/2017 2:19 am

Could be:
Hormonal
Bacterial
Fungal
A product your skin does not like
Dryness

Candida aka yeast is a big problem for many.

Look at the below FAQ under "skin" for how to make my pores smaller

Your naturpath should check you for leaky gut, gi track issues, food sensitivity, and hormonal imbalance. Also take a look at your vitamins and minerals you need to take.

I see large pores which are caused by the overproduction of oils, which can be from all sort of things.

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(@beccagrace68)

Posted : 01/16/2017 1:23 pm

Thanks alot! I just read into candida overgrowth and I have alot of the other symptoms as well! I will be reducing my carbohydrate intake and taking the probiotics and candida cleanse! I can't wait to see my naturopath! Thanks again for your recommendations.

On Saturday, January 14, 2017 at 2:19 AM, beautifulambition said:

Could be:
Hormonal
Bacterial
Fungal
A product your skin does not like
Dryness

Candida aka yeast is a big problem for many.

Look at the below FAQ under "skin" for how to make my pores smaller

Your naturpath should check you for leaky gut, gi track issues, food sensitivity, and hormonal imbalance. Also take a look at your vitamins and minerals you need to take.

I see large pores which are caused by the overproduction of oils, which can be from all sort of things.

Thanks alot! I just read into candida overgrowth and I have alot of the other symptoms as well! I will be reducing my carbohydrate intake and taking the probiotics and candida cleanse! I can't wait to see my naturopath! Thanks again for your recommendations.

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Posted : 01/16/2017 2:33 pm

It doesn't really look like scars to me as much as slightly enlarged pores. I'm not sure what it is exactly, but I hope that eases your fears...because to anyone who was looking at you, they wouldn't say 'wow, her face is so scarred'. What is your skin care regimen like? Maybe you're reacting to something or over exfoliating.

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(@il90)

Posted : 01/16/2017 4:21 pm

On 1/14/2017 at 7:19 AM, beautifulambition said:

Candida aka yeast is a big problem for many.

Oh my god there is no such thing as candida and leaky gut, it's pseudo science at best. It doesn't even deserve a proper argument.

It could be a ton of things but honestly, no her gut is not leaking nor is candida out of control (candida exists in all of us and the only ones with systematic candida - overgrowth are HIV patients who have a lowered immunsystem).

Honestly, I'm tired of all the bullshit you are spreading with low immunsystem or whatnot if you have acne/scarring there is absolutely nothing that proves this outrageous claim of yours. Acne is actually the body responding, if we had lowered immunsystem then we wouldn't even get acne.

(I'm not going to respond beyond this - because frankly I can't be bothered to start another argument with you - but I wanted to offer another point of view before people start starving themselves to get rid off "candida" which is actually part of our biology and completely normal)

It could be a lack of hyaluronic acid, perhaps get some supplements (good ones like Solgar).

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Posted : 01/16/2017 10:12 pm

Thanks for the replies! Honestly I have no clue what prompted the change in my skin. I'm only 27 and it seemed to happen overnight. I also have been getting pretty gnarly hormonal breakouts around my period that i never dealt with before, so it could be hormonal but I have no desire to go on birth control as it has negatively affected me in the past. My skin care regiment was very simple.until I started having these issues, and now I've been doing a lot of experimenting. However all of the experimenting has seemed to make matters worse, so I am simply cleansing at night with vanicream foaming cleanser and moisturizing with simple brand moisturizer. I also spot treat with benzoyl peroxide. I have decided to stop using all my foundation and go makeup free for a bit, which will be hard. Another thing I realized I started doing a few months ago that may be contributing is taking b vitamins, which I read can cause skin issues. I'm basically cutting out everything I changed in the past few months haha. I will try the hyaluronic acid too, thanks!

And in reply about the yeast, agree the leaky gut thing is oversold and doesn't really make sense, but good gut bacteria probably do have an impact. I've been on a lot of antibiotics for utis in the past few years, and I probably killed off a decent amount of good bacteria. I'm going to cut put all medications and vitamins besides probiotics, vitamin c and zinc and that acid stuff you recommended. I'll update as soon as I see some.changes! (Hopefully). The only other thing I can think of is I took a plan b pill a few weeks before this started. So possibly I screwed up my hormones and my body is just trying to readjust..

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Posted : 01/17/2017 6:06 am

14 hours ago, il90 said:
Oh my god there is no such thing as candida and leaky gut, it's pseudo science at best. It doesn't even deserve a proper argument.  

It could be a ton of things but honestly, no her gut is not leaking nor is candida out of control (candida exists in all of us and the only ones with systematic candida - overgrowth are HIV patients who have a lowered immunsystem).

Honestly, I'm tired of all the bullshit you are spreading with low immunsystem or whatnot if you have acne/scarring there is absolutely nothing that proves this outrageous claim of yours. Acne is actually the body responding, if we had lowered immunsystem then we wouldn't even get acne.

(I'm not going to respond beyond this - because frankly I can't be bothered to start another argument with you - but I wanted to offer another point of view before people start starving themselves to get rid off "candida" which is actually part of our biology and completely normal)

It could be a lack of hyaluronic acid, perhaps get some supplements (good ones like Solgar). 

Just the facts according to our department of health, maybe what you believe in the UK is different.

1) I thank you for your care of other people, this is why I am here on the boards and I have helped thousands with their issues, I read and discuss what they provide and offer new info. I am a volunteer doing this for the goodness to help others. The tone of your post does not help us mutually help her condition as a community.

2) She said she is going to a naturopath, hence leaky gut, candida, and balance with foods is part of the treatment, if you treat differently in the UK with naturopaths that's not how we do it int he USA. I thus gave her suggestions based on her posting.

What is a Naturopath: They are able to respond to the individual needs of patients and develop a treatment plan that includes nutritional supplements, botanical medicine, and diet therapy. Naturopathic physicians understand the art of healing, which is more than dispensing an herbal remedy or nutritional supplement.

https://www.takingcharge.csh.umn.edu/explore-healing-practices/naturopathy

3) Yeast is real, candida is real. Just spoke to a doctor friend today, he said it is one of the most treated ailments with steroids. Again according to the US Department of Health. Candida can be from taking too many antibiotics as the OP said. Please present your proof or let us know if you are a registered doctor regarding what you know it is.

https://www.cdc.gov/fungal/diseases/candidiasis/
 

Candidiasis

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Photomicrograph of the fungus Candida albicans

Candidiasis is a fungal infection caused by yeasts that belong to the genus Candida. There are over 20 species of Candida yeasts that can cause infection in humans, the most common of which is Candida albicans. Candida yeasts normally reside in the intestinal tract and can be found on mucous membranes and skin without causing infection; however, overgrowth of these organisms can cause symptoms to develop. Symptoms of candidiasis vary depending on the area of the body that is infected.

Candidiasis that develops in the mouth or throat is called œthrush or oropharyngeal candidiasis. Candidiasis in the vagina is commonly referred to as a œyeast infection Invasive candidiasis occurs when Candida species enter the bloodstream and spread throughout the body. 

 

Who Gets Fungal Infections?

Fungal infections can also happen in people without weak immune systems

Fungal infections that are not life-threatening, such as skin, nail, or vaginal yeast infections, are common.

Some infections can be more serious. Lung infections like Valley fever or histoplasmosis can happen in people who live in or visit certain areas.

Anyone can get a fungal infection, even people who are otherwise healthy. Fungi are common in the environment, and people breathe in or come in contact with fungal spores every day without getting sick. However, in people with weak immune systems, these fungi are more likely to cause an infection.

4) I never said anywhere to starve herself or offered dietary advice like that. I offered a clean way of living to improve scars, this can be found anywhere on the web, it's advice, the poster can goto a doctor for professional help. I do not advise the candida cleanse diet. Any doctor will tell you that you should eat healthy, take supplements, and avoid smoking and alcohol while healing. Sugar is known to be bad look it up. There are several movies on this subject 

5) UCLA school of dermatology found that acne scars (there has to be acne first of course) are as I described recently, please read.We lack the enzymes to deal with the P Acnes bacteria, this is just like Glutin intolerance which is auto immune. Your body cannot deal with ____. Why all acne is not the same, some is hormonal, some is bacterial, and some is a allergic reaction, we could not be here if we were not trying to treat scars with people who heal poorly or their only option is fillers because the body did not heal itself.  

œWe were extremely excited to uncover a third strain of P. acnes that™s common in healthy skin yet rarely found when acne is present, says Li. œWe suspect that this strain contains a natural defense mechanism that enables it to recognize attackers and destroy them before they infect the bacterial cell.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3745799/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK83685/

Did you know that the white blood cells play a major role in eliminating the acne causing bacteria? There is a direct connection between white blood cells and acne breakouts. It is also responsible for maintaining the balance of hormonal levels, which affect the skin conditions. When the white blood cells don™t function properly, there are high chances of skin disorders taking place. 

Any disturbance in the immune system greatly influences the overall health. That™s why it is important to stay informed about it. Your Immune system can be affected by two types of disorders. They are “ Immunodeficiency immune system and Auto immunity immune system. During Immunodeficiency, the immune system can™t recognize the bad cells and thus is unable to destroy them. In auto immunity, the immune system undergoes hyper activity, due to which it not only destroys the bad cells, but also the good ones.

http://www.healthyskinjournals.com/connection-immune-system-acne/

In fact if you Google "acne autoimmune" you will get 3,730,000 hits. That's a LOT! 
 

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Posted : 01/17/2017 8:08 am

1 hour ago, beautifulambition said:
Just the facts according to our department of health, maybe what you believe in the UK is different.

1) I thank you for your care of other people, this is why I am here on the boards and I have helped thousands with their issues, I read and discuss what they provide and offer new info. I am a volunteer doing this for the goodness to help others. The tone of your post does not help us mutually help her condition as a community.

2) She said she is going to a naturopath, hence leaky gut, candida, and balance with foods is part of the treatment, if you treat differently in the UK with naturopaths that's not how we do it int he USA. I thus gave her suggestions based on her posting.

What is a Naturopath: They are able to respond to the individual needs of patients and develop a treatment plan that includes nutritional supplements, botanical medicine, and diet therapy. Naturopathic physicians understand the art of healing, which is more than dispensing an herbal remedy or nutritional supplement.

https://www.takingcharge.csh.umn.edu/explore-healing-practices/naturopathy

3) Yeast is real, candida is real. Just spoke to a doctor friend today, he said it is one of the most treated ailments with steroids. Again according to the US Department of Health. Candida can be from taking too many antibiotics as the OP said. Please present your proof or let us know if you are a registered doctor regarding what you know it is.

https://www.cdc.gov/fungal/diseases/candidiasis/
 

Candidiasis

phil-2918-200px.jpg

Photomicrograph of the fungus Candida albicans

Candidiasis is a fungal infection caused by yeasts that belong to the genus Candida. There are over 20 species of Candida yeasts that can cause infection in humans, the most common of which is Candida albicans. Candida yeasts normally reside in the intestinal tract and can be found on mucous membranes and skin without causing infection; however, overgrowth of these organisms can cause symptoms to develop. Symptoms of candidiasis vary depending on the area of the body that is infected.

Candidiasis that develops in the mouth or throat is called œthrush or oropharyngeal candidiasis. Candidiasis in the vagina is commonly referred to as a œyeast infection Invasive candidiasis occurs when Candida species enter the bloodstream and spread throughout the body. 

 

Who Gets Fungal Infections?

Fungal infections can also happen in people without weak immune systems

Fungal infections that are not life-threatening, such as skin, nail, or vaginal yeast infections, are common.

Some infections can be more serious. Lung infections like Valley fever or histoplasmosis can happen in people who live in or visit certain areas.

Anyone can get a fungal infection, even people who are otherwise healthy. Fungi are common in the environment, and people breathe in or come in contact with fungal spores every day without getting sick. However, in people with weak immune systems, these fungi are more likely to cause an infection.

4) I never said anywhere to starve herself or offered dietary advice like that. I offered a clean way of living to improve scars, this can be found anywhere on the web, it's advice, the poster can goto a doctor for professional help. I do not advise the candida cleanse diet. Any doctor will tell you that you should eat healthy, take supplements, and avoid smoking and alcohol while healing. Sugar is known to be bad look it up. There are several movies on this subject 

5) UCLA school of dermatology found that acne scars (there has to be acne first of course) are as I described recently, please read.We lack the enzymes to deal with the P Acnes bacteria, this is just like Glutin intolerance which is auto immune. Your body cannot deal with ____. Why all acne is not the same, some is hormonal, some is bacterial, and some is a allergic reaction, we could not be here if we were not trying to treat scars with people who heal poorly or their only option is fillers because the body did not heal itself.  

œWe were extremely excited to uncover a third strain of P. acnes that™s common in healthy skin yet rarely found when acne is present, says Li. œWe suspect that this strain contains a natural defense mechanism that enables it to recognize attackers and destroy them before they infect the bacterial cell.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3745799/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK83685/

Did you know that the white blood cells play a major role in eliminating the acne causing bacteria? There is a direct connection between white blood cells and acne breakouts. It is also responsible for maintaining the balance of hormonal levels, which affect the skin conditions. When the white blood cells don™t function properly, there are high chances of skin disorders taking place. 

Any disturbance in the immune system greatly influences the overall health. That™s why it is important to stay informed about it. Your Immune system can be affected by two types of disorders. They are “ Immunodeficiency immune system and Auto immunity immune system. During Immunodeficiency, the immune system can™t recognize the bad cells and thus is unable to destroy them. In auto immunity, the immune system undergoes hyper activity, due to which it not only destroys the bad cells, but also the good ones.

http://www.healthyskinjournals.com/connection-immune-system-acne/

In fact if you Google "acne autoimmune" you will get 3,730,000 hits. That's a LOT! 
 

Oh god. Yes candida exist but not in the sense that you believe. It is part of our biology. If you had problems with white blood cells they wouldn't attack in the first place. It's like you are adding together different scientific studies and then going "see snakes gives birth to rabbits" it makes no sense. However, this tactic is usually adopted by holistic 'doctors'  that need something to back up their pseudo science. To each their own I suppose though.

Also, who ever said google was a substitute for actual science? You are actually telling me that I need to google something and the more hits I get must mean it is true!

For everyone here, listen to your instincts. I'm out though.   

9 hours ago, Beccagrace68 said:

Thanks for the replies! Honestly I have no clue what prompted the change in my skin. I'm only 27 and it seemed to happen overnight. I also have been getting pretty gnarly hormonal breakouts around my period that i never dealt with before, so it could be hormonal but I have no desire to go on birth control as it has negatively affected me in the past. My skin care regiment was very simple.until I started having these issues, and now I've been doing a lot of experimenting. However all of the experimenting has seemed to make matters worse, so I am simply cleansing at night with vanicream foaming cleanser and moisturizing with simple brand moisturizer. I also spot treat with benzoyl peroxide. I have decided to stop using all my foundation and go makeup free for a bit, which will be hard. Another thing I realized I started doing a few months ago that may be contributing is taking b vitamins, which I read can cause skin issues. I'm basically cutting out everything I changed in the past few months haha. I will try the hyaluronic acid too, thanks!

And in reply about the yeast,  agree the leaky gut thing is oversold and doesn't really make sense, but good gut bacteria probably do have an impact. I've been on a lot of antibiotics for utis in the past few years, and I probably killed off a decent amount of good bacteria. I'm going to cut put all medications and vitamins besides probiotics, vitamin c and zinc and that acid stuff you recommended. I'll update as soon as I see some.changes! (Hopefully). The only other thing I can think of is I took a plan b pill a few weeks before this started. So possibly I screwed up my hormones and my body is just trying to readjust..

Yes. Probiotics can help. That is true, just make sure you get a good one like Udo's choice with at least 45 billion in every cap. Add lots of hyaluronic acid too which might help. Sometimes though it could be stress and other things and it might resolve eventually on its own. 

Good luck! And your skin is fine to be honest but I understand that it might bug you. 

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