18 minutes ago, welldone28 said:Look, you have your procedure many months later you're healed and see 'real' results without swelling, at this point you don't follow up with docs, you need to make another appt which will take another few months + $! none of them will see you for free even as a follow up. If they do, let me know which one...I am curious.
What about trying to email the doctor? Surely if you have spent good money on a procedure then you are entitled to some follow up care. You should be able to voice your concerns.
Just now, ScarRight said:What about trying to email the doctor? Surely if you have spent good money on a procedure then you are entitled to some follow up care. You should be able to voice your concerns.
At this point its been a year or so...I dont know I can try.
@welldone28 No issue with you giving your opinion on Lim, that is why everything was moved to a sole Lim topic here instead of posting on anything Lim site wide, everything has been consolidated. Can I kindly ask that we add more facts. It's clear there was a personality mismatch and you feel he was arrogant which is reason enough for you to find a better fit. What would be interesting is what Lim did (besides arrogance) that caused issues with treatment that was also it seems mishandled by other Drs also - just trying to get more info. What could help others most to learn from the situation is if you could obtain the patient notes (They are required to give it to you), and post them here. I have helped many cases after Dermal grafting and additional scarring (5 years latter) is a very real side effect of the procedure with tethering and attachment to the fat layer, hence subcision being beneficial to you with the SYD Derms. Dermal grafting has fallen out of favor with the top acne scar Drs due to augmentation/subcision/etc.
7 hours ago, beautifulambition said:@welldone28 No issue with you giving your opinion on Lim, that is why everything was moved to a sole Lim topic here instead of posting on anything Lim site wide, everything has been consolidated. Can I kindly ask that we add more facts. It's clear there was a personality mismatch and you feel he was arrogant which is reason enough for you to find a better fit. What would be interesting is what Lim did (besides arrogance) that caused issues with treatment that was also it seems mishandled by other Drs also - just trying to get more info. What could help others most to learn from the situation is if you could obtain the patient notes (They are required to give it to you), and post them here. I have helped many cases after Dermal grafting and additional scarring (5 years latter) is a very real side effect of the procedure with tethering and attachment to the fat layer, hence subcision being beneficial to you with the SYD Derms. Dermal grafting has fallen out of favor with the top acne scar Drs due to augmentation/subcision/etc.
I got one document from him, I can pm you if you're interested. I dont want to post it here. (I'll change names etc as well) Thank you!
Hi Floridagirl Ive got scars worser inc alot of ice picks and boxcar and like you I have tried everything and I mean everything....Do not be sad I bet you are a nice person and in real life and not harsh lighting I bet you would never notice them after all you are in harsh lighting and noone ever sees you like that....
I am thinking of doing laser again after excision but I am not sure if it will work on my scars....my LHS is by far the worst and pics as attached....what treatments you think?
Also do you think that i should not do laser again? I am 43 years old and i thought it smooths the skin again after punch excision? many thanks TH
Ive lost alot of fat but i dont think it was from laser more age related and acne scars
yes fillers are a waste of time and money doesnt last 1 month and thats fact
many people suffer from it we are NOT alone....i am thinking of fat transfer/grafts....
In normal light and daytime you never or hardly notice my scars i think we are too harsh on ourselves in harsh lighting
do u notice yours in normal lighting? or daytime?
Thank you yes, many doctors just want the money, it is very hard to find an honest doc like Chu, Lim and Emil. Many acne scar sufferers are too hard on themselves posting pictures in the most unflattering lighting where no one sees them, it is unrealistic and detrimental to your mental health and self-image! @tryinghard123
I would do punch excision on the bigger pits/ice pick scars....subcision does nothing just raises it then after swelling comes back down the same
Needling rf is a HUGE waste of money do not do it I did infini rf microneedling 2 times it does nothing
I would definitely do punch excision it leaves a line /linear scar which looks ten times much better and the doctor joins both sides of skin together
How is Lim a fraud, he is probably the best in the world at scar revision lol @tryinghard123
@tryinghard123 Is that you at 15:50 mins (video below) in or about, same picture you posted on here, it sounded like ... never treated you. Perhaps you should contact West Side Derm they are very good with dealing with patient issues, just put in the subject problem with Dr Lim or something needs attention and contact - or call your local and they have a office manager, he has staff I would think to handle this as no Derm likes bad PR. I believe you can also file a complaint with your health authority as I have said many times if you wish. I never did see that Instagram you said Lim posted and was false of yourself. The below video is about why he will not treat certain people.
No worries Tryinghard there are other plastics in AUS that will treat your age related skin damage, and scars as it's much more complicated than most on here. You said you have tried ""all"" the AUS Dr's and gotten 0% improvement from every treatment, this is beyond rare. I would try a facelift as you said that is what you wanted or to cut your scars out all over your face with excision (not my choice at all for anyone, but you said you like the treatment). But this advice is for no one else, as most treatments will work for everyone on here, with subcision being the best. Again your case is not like 99% here, you have aging related damage, poor healing, and health concerns on top of some scarring. I again think aggressive subcision and sculptra would help you, but you were not so keen on the idea, and wanted fat grafting and a face lift but still haven't had that done. Any filler would last on you a very short period of time (massive age related damage and fat loss, you need many mls and ongoing treatment at your age yearly), and you said you "feel" that temporary fillers are not worth it, ... so do your plan for longer lasting treatments.
Some of Lim's acne scar treatments are covered/subcidized (especially for subcision) under Medicare so no one has to spend thousands if they are a AUS citizen.
It is also discouraging and harmful to many when you post that "nothing works" (which is not true - perhaps your "viewpoint")" on their acne scar plan or thread/blog. I don't understand why you would post here if nothing that is discussed can or has with your supposed numerous treatments and thousands of dollars helped you,... unless it's about pain and spite towards Lim (even though you supposedly saw "many," Drs for treatment). While I realize you hold the below views, they are not accurate with any respected top 1% acne scar Dr's, nor do the split blind studies show these findings, or have I ever experienced them with the thousands I have helped here (to many success stories), etc, but we are all individuals and have "choices." It is best you see a few board certified Plastic Surgeons as no one can help you fully with the assistance you need here and it's not productive to post whenever a Lim Post is made as he has helped many on this site, ... again find the Dr which is best for your situation and needs.
Your not like anyone else on these forums. I cannot over-analyze every choice, health concern, and action done in your life. It all depends on how you heal. I Get your frustration.
No scar case is the same, we are not clones, one person could do a million procedures and not be you, your all different ages, ethnic backgrounds, healing capabilities, plans for treatment, outcomes, different surgeons (they treat differently as well), etc, we could go on and on. The point being is never compare yourself to someone else. Sure you can learn from their experience but do we really know every single detail about what was done and why - no. If someone heals poorly or had a poor Dr they typically hang around here.
We are not your Drs' goto a board certified Dr for help, ... if you want get 3 opinions and choose the one you like best. Your cases have nothing to do with each other or anyone else here, everyone is a individual with a different story.
It takes time and heal (this is a marathon and not a race, many do treatments every 3 months over 3 years time),... it's slow with lots of treatments.
If is scars do not respond there are some aggressive choices that I would never suggest without seeing a few dermatologists / plastic surgeon's for a second opinion.
Some choices:
1) Do nothing - sometimes this really is the best solution.
2) If they are a a poor healer, anything will make their scars worse, perhaps filler subcision (many times) and clear and brilliant are the best options for these types.
3) Often those who need subcision with pits have not had 6-8 treatments and are slow to respond to the traditional amount or needed "more" filler.
4) Punch excision or Punch float and resurfacing (cutting and lifting, this is done for boxcars / icepicks - this does not work well for poor healers or those with many scars).
5) Had fat loss from the Dr blasting them with laser, or they were overly gentle (treatments were not strong enough), as such we have to go backwards with more treatments needed and a better Dr to move forward.
6) Get a face lift (to stretch the scars) or a very very aggressive treatment by Dr Taylor in Utah (yes there have been some with botched attempts - but it's aggressive).
7) Sometimes a change in Dr makes the difference, ... had a patient who was not responding to subcision, turns out the Dr was not subcising their scars and just doing one spot / not being aggressive to break the bonds.
It's best if you find a therapist as I feel it's effecting you emotionally and no one deserves to suffer with scars inside and outside, that is half of the battle.
Without knowing all the details of your scar work to analyze where things went wrong I can give generalized advice.
Let's go over some reasons why treatments may fail: auto-immune conditions, smoking, poor health and healing, poor treatment techniques by the Dr's, not doing enough treatments, expecting the skin to be glass smooth and instead having gradual % of change over a few years of treatment - many only get 50%, Doing energy work first and blasting the face thus loosing fat and collagen and complaining it got worse, re-occurring acne and scarring in different places, stress, antibiotics, anti depressants, hard drugs, alcohol and the liver, poor gut health, use of bad products that strip or hurt the skin, microneedling causing more scars when they have poor healing, excessive acid peels taking away layers of the skin. A big one is patients being cheap and not doing enough mls of filler, .5ml is not going to be enough filler for excessive scar work or fat loss. If subcision was done in the past with NO filler then yes it will do nothing, If you goto a general Derm and they are clueless this is also a big one, they can make things worse. Scar treatment is often over years time with excessive time of healing, it's not quick, so mono or singular treatments will not do it for your individual scars. Some people cannot do energy devices like laser - it will literally scar them... can't do microneedling ... can't do peels, all that is left is subcision and filler or invasive face lifts. Also the order treatment is done is very important. We don't pave a road correct before the potholes are fixed. When Dr's just laser they often are not fixing the pits.
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Please stop misinforming people, subcision is highly effective, what you are saying is a load of bullshit. Why do you hang around here commenting this stuff, it is counterproductive and isn't helping anybody. Your anecdote can't compete with the countless studies completed proving the efficacy of subcision, and RF microneedling. Multiple treatments are needed. I was supposed to be taking a break from the forums but this wound me up... you aren't helping anyone or yourself. See a therapist. @tryinghard123
@ScarRightI flew to Brisbane for his treatment Iam still going through it . In my opinion the treatments shouldnt be rushed and done very patiently and slowly for that you have to keep travelling to aus . If multiple treatments are done you really can Panic and be stressed as one cant show him after a treatment if you have any side effect s . It has to be spaced out . But he tries to fit as many as possible which could lead to more side effects and its very tough to get his opinion on anything so from so far . Its fine if one gets few things from him and get the rest from somewhere else which he recommends. He does a lot of subcisions ina year , but I still havent seen any improvement as of now in me and am waiting for it to completely work , its a very expensive treatment if one has to travel after every three months . But if it makes a difference then it s worth it .
On 9/18/2019 at 7:27 AM, tryinghard123 said:DO NOT GO THERE....IS A FRAUDSTER
SHOWS PICTURES OF OTHER PEOPLES FACES
REIHA - IVE CONTACTED CONSUMER AFFAIRS ABT THIS FRAUDSTER AND MANY OTHERS HAVE TOO!!!
What did consumer affairs say? Where is the video where he is showing other people's faces instead of yours?
Hello all,
just wanted to push the topic up in case someone treated by Dr. Lim sees it and wishes to contribute.
I've been doing a research as to whom I should turn to now that Dr. Chu is retiring. I've stumbled upon Dr. Lim a lot - his videos are very informative, his Insta as well, and he seems like a genuine doctor who cares about his patients.
However, I've seen only very few actual reviews, people on here who have been actually treated by him (not just impressed with his presumed vast experience and skills).
My concern is that apart from being half a world away, his prices are just extraorbital compared to those of Chu! So, please, if you are / were a patient of his or know of a good tread of good results with him, please, do share. I am sure I won't be the only one who is going to be very grateful.
After watching a lot of his yt videos I decided to go and see him. He is very knowledgeable but the appointment goes very quickly and felt a bit rushed. That aside I still wanted to get treatments done by him. I tried to schedule an appointment for next year for the treatments but was told by staff that is not taking any appointments for next year yet. On google reviews I saw someone post that 'publicised disciplinary actions the Medical Board took against him just a few months ago'. I googled the board and there is indeeddisciplinary actions against him I'm not sure what though. I'm not sure where to go now.
8 hours ago, Redbow123 said:After watching a lot of his yt videos I decided to go and see him. He is very knowledgeable but the appointment goes very quickly and felt a bit rushed. My bf also went to see him and told me that as he was talking and asking more questions he pretty much walked him out the door. That aside I still wanted to get treatments done by him. I tried to schedule an appointment for next year for the treatments but was told by staff that is not taking any appointments for next year yet. On google reviews I saw someone post that 'publicised disciplinary actions the Medical Board took against him just a few months ago'. I googled the board and there is indeeddisciplinary actions against him I'm not sure what though. I'm not sure where to go now.
I am sorry thatyou had bad experience at the Dr's consult. If you live in AUS, why don't you consider paying the other recommended here Aussie docs a visit? It's not just Dr. Lim.
Also, where did you find the info about Dr. Lim facing disciplinary measures by the Medical Board of Australia? I couldn't find anything. Is this legit? Can you, please, provide a link, in PM if you want? When I enquired about an appointment atDr. Lim's office a few weeks ago, I was offered one in early March next year.
"Please note - Subcision is a fraud...as stated by you its does NOTHING""
"I would do punch excision on the bigger pits/ice pick scars....subcision does nothing just raises it then after swelling comes back down the same Needling rf is a HUGE waste of money do not do it I did infini rf microneedling 2 times it does nothing I would definitely do punch excision it..."
"...subcision the swelling comes down and it just comes back the same...." "I am thinking of a mini facelift as I have tried subcision, fillers and all that and it does NOT work and when I pull/stretch the skin taut the scars look so much better....it is better that that doing subcision and filler which lasts 1 month at best"
"I did the 3 juverderm, juverderm voluma and restylane...yes u could give it a try but trust me doesnt work only lasts a month even less unless you want to." do it once a month then when u get older your skin will be so fake and wrinkly from all filler treatments over the years."
"I told everyone and know of many of his patients who have the same view ....Dr Lim is a criminal bastard a liar .....STAY WELL AWAY FROM THIS CROOK"
"dr lim is a criminal yes i did 2 full treatments of subcision at him for 2000 dollars EACH 4000 ALL UP and saw 0 percent results....that is FACT if he cant do it he should say so and not scam other peoples hard earned money and then post on instagram pictures that are fake he is a fraud and a liar and i know many who say the same of him"
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