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7 hours ago, tryinghard123 said:He is a criminal bastard....spent thousands....then hes posting pictures on instagram of my face in different lighting and all the scars are still there....ENOUGH PROOF
Wow? That is an astonishing claim. He actually used your face in one of his videos and/or pictures? You still haven't answered my question. What treatments did Lim do and how many treatments? If he was doing this on a regular basis, where are all the negative online reviews of him?
I want a bit more information because I'm thinking of seeing Lim. Your posts so far do not provide any insight or depth, but I would be really interested to hear your full experience.
How much percentage improvement did you get with your scars? Nobody can ever get 100%. Cheers.
Wow... when did you have the TCA cross treatment done?
I just read YOUR comment on this page on Monday saying the following:
Hi my name is TM and i have similar scarring....I have tried everything inc lasers, fillers, needling, dermal grafts, excisions etc with no results at all....I have also done subcision and skin still looks the same....I have not tried tca cross but I have greatly heard this makes scars bigger so please take care and keep me informed of any treatments you undertake and improvements....thx tm
It is awful if you are just defaming the doctor.
1 hour ago, tryinghard123 said:ok i did subcision and filler and i got 0 percent improvement......you have been warned stay WELL away from him
also did tca cross by him which actually made my scars BIGGER
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8 hours ago, tryinghard123 said:ok i did subcision and filler and i got 0 percent improvement......you have been warned stay WELL away from him
also did tca cross by him which actually made my scars BIGGER
Where is your online review on RateMds and RealSelf, if you feel so strongly about this? Scar Revivision is not an exact science, unfortunately it does not work the same for everyone. People heal at different rates, with things such as genetics, Accutane, diet and lifestyle proving to be a factor. Did you return for a follow up visit? I have heard he sometimes treats patients for a discount if their initial treatments yielded no improvement.
When did he take the picture? Straight after treatment with swelling still present? Or on a follow up visit?
On his instagram he has been posting videos of before and afters. It's a lot harder to fake the lighting on a video.
It's not entirely fair to write so negatively about a doctor without giving a detailed summary of what happened. I'm not picking sides, but those initial posts have no detail at all while making those negative claims.
I think speaking to former patients about their experiences with a doctor are the most effective way for a potential patient to decide if a particular doctor is the right fit. Unfortunately, this could prove difficult to do since they're patient confidentiality issues and possibly only hearing the 'sucess' stories.
On 11/6/2018 at 2:15 PM, Obi wan said:I think he is doing more for the acne scar community out there than any other dermatologist. As for prices, goto LA and see some of the dermatologist there who 'specialise' in acne scars, then see Lim. Its a joke how reasonable Lim is compared to other high profile dermatologists.
I love Dr. Lin and I agree that he is doing a huge amount of work in the acne scar community, most of all, outreach with his videos, which I love. He also has a great deal of enthusiasm.
But the cross promotion of other doctors who may or may not be above board all the time is troubling. In the comment section of one of his videos he recommends Emer. I don't know of anyone on this board having a good experience with Emer. Please correct me if I am wrong.
The link is here:
and the comment is from 2 years ago in response to Charlotte Binder.
Dr Jason Emer will never be on the preferred practitioner list. During the past year I have had to help "several" acne scar patients that fell for the Hollywood Razzle and Dazzle Glamorizing treatments and social media usage of his office. Emer uses a Hollywood film production team with aggressive marketing. It seems many fall for social media sales over someone who may not advertise and has the patients best interest. I think transparency and the visual nature of aesthetics treatment fits well with social media but also can cause the patient to not know what they are getting into, ... research!
Have you seen Emer's canned responses to questions on RealSelf - Always the same thing, leading to seeing him.
He often does irresponsible treatments based off of $$,$$$ (5 energy devices done at one time is not ethical - nor does any one heal like this).
Not only are the patients faces ruined and must be fixed but they spend exorbitant prices for this work that is pushed and over sold to them. He has told members here that they must treat with him for the rest of their life as their scars will never be fixed without him, can you imagine...One guy spent $36,000 for 2 treatment sessions, in the end he had to have his face fixed by a plastic surgeon for severe damage.
I applaud Lim 
for trying to help dermatological community (make a difference, I stand with him in this goal). Emer was being helped learn a new skill (not that you can learn something in a few hrs). Training is part of that goal. Lim has earned his praise by hard work to help the scar community evolve. He is unselfish with his help (See Real Self Questions he answer). He would say see another acne scar specialist,... he is not the only one who can treat you. I have never heard Emer say this. If anyone is reading this and new to acne.org, checkout the scar treatments sub forum, first post FAQ, there is a whole list of practitioners and information about scarring there.
I do not want to glamorize Emer (Ethics / Patient Information - Buyer Beware). It is my opinion, it' not in a patients best interest to see Emer. Of course you are responsible for you who see and your own decisions. Many other choices of practitioners for people to see on the list.
Acne scar work is not only a medical procedure, there is psychological component (the patient must be considered as a whole).
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For the good old money you say everything 
Just let me say one thing here: REALLY good doctors don't have to upload videos on YouTube or Instagram and do online marketing
I think the medical world is changing. Dermatology is so visual, in fact 99% visual. Spend 30 minutes describing multilayer cannulasubcsion or show a 60 second video. As long as the video is educational - it helps the patient understand. I am indifferent to Lim, Emer, and all the rest, however if you look at the entertaining sales videos form other guys like Dr Ourian- well, that's sales at it's best. Social Media is a double edge sword, it can help people or it can ruin their lives and drain the savings out of a middle class hard working person that just wants to look normal. In the end it lies in the ethics of the doctors out there.
$36K for acne scar revision--only a psychopath would charge that.
I think scar revision should be free. People without facial scars have no clue how debilitating they can be.
Yes, the best ones don't do social media. They don't even need websites. But they are not easy to find and they tend to be incredibly expensive.
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So you allow people to slander a doctor without providing any details or evidence. Wow. It looks like you allow posters a free pass to troll on here.
Dude, I know you are frustrated, but this is not the way you express your frustration. You made your decision, nobody made that decision for you.
I am sorry that the result is not what you expected but it is just too funny how you are insulting one of the greatest dermatologists who devoted himself in scar revision field. You should be thankful that you can actually get treatments from Dr.Lim. If I was able to travel for the treatments, Dr.Lim would be my number 1 choice.
Hope your scar gets better in time.
14 hours ago, tryinghard123 said:alot of it is fraud....i have tried everything......subcision, lasers, dermal grafts, fillers, rf needling absoulutely 0 PERCENT IMPROVEMENT
just have to maybe accept it and not get frauded by doctors
Really ?!
I mean you have tried all of treatment and got 0 percent improvement ?! Isthat even possible?
Maybe the problem is with the doctor and not the methods
Believe me my friend I had subcision in the past with 3 diferent doctors which all of them use same method but I got diferent improvement.
Doctor is very imprtant
If you see your derms treatment didnt have result dont try to have more treatment with same doctor try to find new derm
On 11/23/2018 at 2:12 PM, tryinghard123 said:I have done numerous sessions of subcision.....and who in Australia offers bellafill? as juvederm does nothing
and i have done 3 sessions of infini needling that does nothing too
as well as 3 sessions of laser......nothing
I have tried everything from lasers, fillers (many of them), needling(infini and dermapen), excision, dermal/punch grafts etc with no results at all....I am soon 43 years old and am seriously thinking of a facelift with fat grafts/transfers? any recommendations/opinions....is very frustrating.....
I am sorry you did not receive the results you wanted.
Your treatment is very rare, less than 1% of all acne scar suffers, I read your other responses from your post history. It is statistically impossible to get "0%" results from the multiple treatments you listed. This could be a cognitive distortion of patient outcome - https://psychcentral.com/lib/15-common-cognitive-distortions/ Example. Just because I _____ no one else does. I have helped thousands - like I am trying to help you here. Could I ask you to not post on other posters and tell them nothing will work for them, is that just isn't true.
Since you say Dr Lim did your treatments and there is more positive reviews of patients seeing him form this site than negative, ... perhaps your treatment is not fully finished. Ask Dr Lim for your patient records, he does a treatment plan. I need to know what the plan was for your treatment as he takes meticulous photos of his patients before and after and case notes for liability. He has told us if you obtain them and share them he gives permission for the community to evaluate the data presented and keep him accountable. I believe he offers a large sum of money if you will publicly discredit his treatment and he must be involved (he will post the video) including pictures, video chat, sharing the patients records and information, so everything is transparent, no one yet has ever taken his challenge.
I am curious about your before pictures if the one you posted is the after at "0%" improvement , can you post that.
Sure you could heal poorly from treatments, have underlying health issues, or other complications, including - not get the same patient expectations that were delivered. The cases that I help or contact me for assistance I tell them to STOP, they should never have had any treatments. Why waste your time, money and psychological health if you don't see some improvement. Why spend thousands and keep going back for treatments if you don't see - at least some, improvement after say one or two sessions. Scar treatment is not just about the Dr but many other factors that are completely out of their hands. Many think they will get glass smooth skin after treatment and this is just not so, ... at most I tell posters if they heal well and respond to treatments expect 50% - improvement after they complete there plan.
At 43 you will heal differently than someone in their 20s, it takes longer.
What I see in the above picture is volume loss. You need Cannular subcision throughout the whole cheek and several vials of sulptra. Sculptra is used for HIV fat loss as well if you google a picture. This volume will push out the skin and improve your overall look. I will not recommend any energy devices as you say you did all of them and saw "0%" improvement. I could go through the settings but Lim is a expert on this. I say goto someone who can help you many other Drs in AUS who can do Sculptra injections. Sculptra is a long lasting Volumizer. Consult a few plastic surgeon as well if you wish to see if they can do something for you.
Bellafill is/was approved in AUS, perhaps your health authority pulled it. Lookup "PMMA filler," "Bellafill," "aretfill," and a location. Real Self says Lim injects it under-treatments, but I think that is wrong as he is not a fan of permanent fillers. Call a few local practitioners and see if they inject it. Korea and Thailand have it I know AUS travel there. New Zealand also has PMMA fillers. I think Sculptra would be better for you.
On 11/23/2018 at 2:12 PM, tryinghard123 said:I have done numerous sessions of subcision.....and who in Australia offers bellafill? as juvederm does nothing
and i have done 3 sessions of infini needling that does nothing too
as well as 3 sessions of laser......nothing
I have tried everything from lasers, fillers (many of them), needling(infini and dermapen), excision, dermal/punch grafts etc with no results at all....I am soon 43 years old and am seriously thinking of a facelift with fat grafts/transfers? any recommendations/opinions....is very frustrating.....
I am sorry you did not receive the results you wanted.
Your treatment is very rare, less than 1% of all acne scar suffers, I read your other responses from your post history. It is statistically impossible to get "0%" results from the multiple treatments you listed. This could be a cognitive distortion of patient outcome - https://psychcentral.com/lib/15-common-cognitive-distortions/ Example. Just because I _____ no one else does. I have helped thousands - like I am trying to help you here. Could I ask you to not post on other posters and tell them nothing will work for them, is that just isn't true.
Since you say Dr Lim did your treatments and there is more positive reviews of patients seeing him form this site than negative, ... perhaps your treatment is not fully finished. Ask Dr Lim for your patient records, he does a treatment plan. I need to know what the plan was for your treatment as he takes meticulous photos of his patients before and after and case notes for liability. He has told us if you obtain them and share them he gives permission for the community to evaluate the data presented and keep him accountable. I believe he offers a large sum of money if you will publicly discredit his treatment and he must be involved (he will post the video) including pictures, video chat, sharing the patients records and information, so everything is transparent, no one yet has ever taken his challenge.
I am curious about your before pictures if the one you posted is the after at "0%" improvement , can you post that.
Sure you could heal poorly from treatments, have underlying health issues, or other complications, including - not getting the same patient expectations that were delivered. The cases that I help or contact me for assistance I tell them to STOP, they should never have had any treatments. Why waste your time, money and psychological health if you don't see some improvement. Why spend thousands and keep going back for treatments if you don't see - at least some, improvement after say one or two sessions. Scar treatment is not just about the Dr but many other factors that are completely out of their hands. Many think they will get glass smooth skin after treatment and this is just not so, ... at most I tell posters if they heal well and respond to treatments expect 50% - improvement after they complete there plan.
At 43 you will heal differently than someone in their 20s, it takes longer.
What I see in the above picture is volume loss. You need Cannular subcision throughout the whole cheek and several vials of Sulptra. Sculptra is used for HIV fat loss as well if you google a picture. This volume will push out the skin and improve your overall look. I will not recommend any energy devices as you say you did all of them and saw "0%" improvement. I could go through the settings but Lim is a expert on this. I say goto someone who can help you many other Drs in AUS who can do Sculptra injections. Sculptra is a long lasting Volumizer. Consult a few plastic surgeon as well if you wish to see if they can do something for you.
Bellafill is/was approved in AUS, perhaps your health authority pulled it. Lookup "PMMA filler," "Bellafill," "aretfill," and a location. Real Self says Lim injects it under-treatments, but I think that is wrong as he is not a fan of permanent fillers. Call a few local practitioners and see if they inject it. Korea and Thailand have it I know AUS travel there. New Zealand also has PMMA fillers. I think Sculptra would be better for you.
my rolling scars are there yes i admit that....but.....they are not real deep as perceived.....i have quite a few ice pick and boxcar scars and am trying 50 percent tca cross myself but it looks like it makes the scars larger
i will correct you i have tried the lot - lasers fillers excisions grafts needling with no improvement at all....still looks the same over the whole 20 years i have been doing it
that is why i am thinking of facelift with fat transfer as it is the only treatment i have not done
with respect to the lady above in after photo she has rubbed makeup obviously which disguises it better so there is no improvement in that photo
and she is smiling in the 2nd photo too
i did 2 full treatments of subcision at him for 2000 dollars EACH 4000 ALL UP and saw 0 percent results....that is FACT
if he cant do it he should say so and not scam other peoples hard earned money and then post on instagram pictures that are fake
he is a fraud and a liar and i know many who say the same of him
and i cannot find any doctors who do acne scars and specialise in sculptra do u know of any?
thanks
i did 2 sessions of fillers and subcisions with him each 4000 dollars all up.....
oh and 10 minutes work all up and 30 minutes he was talking lol....he is a scam
Hi there,
You have made a serious accusation against Dr Lim. Perhaps I will inquire with Dr Lim's office for his response, he is not allowed to post here on the forums after all as a Dr.
Can you help us understand how this is true. I have seen no before and after pictures to compare. You state he used your pictures in a Instagram and they were not truthful, please provide that video or picture (And Before and After Pictures) so we can compare.
You state "how do I find TCA Cross," to do it at home on yourself, and yet you say, it did not work with several other Drs. You state you did excisions and dermal grafting, Dr Lim does not do Dermal Grafting and he "tries" to help improve those patients. You state you spent 4000$ for Subcision, I have never seen this charge unless they used filler, laser, and did several things at once which possible. If it takes him 10 minutes surgery and 30 minutes talk that is what you pay for in a expert, whatever it takes to do the surgery. Your original intent to post was for plastic surgery - facelift as "that is the only thing you have not tried." If you have had "0%" improvement in all other treatments why would a facelift help, this proves you heal poorly and it would not meet your expectations.
A Dr can "try" to help you and it just does not work out, nothing is 100%. But "0%" improvement...
You state you want fat grafting, yet you know multiple- surgeries and long procedures must be done, it can turn out lumpy as @arug stated before to you (she had happen), your body can absorb the fat in 3 - years. Why not get a filler and avoid all that. But you state you had "0%" improvement from fillers, which is not possible unless nothing was used. Look at any overfilled Hollywood actress. If your biggest complaint is icepicks and TCA did nothing, you would have to get them excised or cut out, no: filler, subcision, or laser will fix icepicks.
Why would you go back and spend thousands of dollars with a Dr who gave you "0%" improvement, why continue on treatment. You seem skeptical now which is logical but not treating over 20 years doing all these procedures if they gave you "0%" improvement and drained your pocket book. Every Dr must be a fraud after all if it was 20 year of treatments. Dr Lim was not even practicing 20 years ago in AUS for scars.
I have never seen "0%" improvement, poor healing yes, ... perhaps a bad procedure for that person but not "all" procedures, producing "0%." You do realize at 0% as you state if you cut yourself, or got a bruise you would not even heal from it at all and it would cause your body to be worse as it does not heal. If another Dr did your dermal grafts and you had other procedures with other Drs as you state isn't it unfair to blame that all on Dr Lim who said "dermal grafting, can make 'idiosyncratic scarring'new-scarring and make things worse." Treatment is hard afterwards to try to offer some improvement to the patient.
I think your looking for something magic, glass smooth skin, photoshop results, perfection - BDD. Nothing will give you results at "0%" improvement (after all those surgeries) if you want me to save you the headache. I would accept it and move on. Stop now and enjoy your life and money, take a trip, your scarring is not severe, I would say moderate in the picture you produced. You have age (42) related issues (which happen naturally), but this has nothing to do with scarring. You do realize these procedures do not last forever, age is a constant battle to find corrective aesthetic treatment as we loose bone and fat.
So yes at this point goto 3 plastic surgeons and get their opinion even if you have to pay for the consultation, and discuss a face lift. Perhaps you will be happy with them. But I am warning you this will not fix your acne scars but pull the skin tighter/taunt.
Can I ask you please not troll the other members who will get improvement from acne scar treatments. It is again a cognitive distortion to say all will ___________ because I ____________. https://psychcentral.com/lib/15-common-cognitive-distortions/
Several things in life might work for the majority but not for you, life is not fair. Why make others loose all hope, when they can improve. I think this whole experience has taken a mental toll on you and as such therapy/therapist could help you, that is half the battle with acne scars. Scar work is not only based on the Dr's skill but your ability to heal - "Insanity Is Doing the Same Thing Over and Over Again and Expecting Different Results" (Albert Einstein).
You state you did not like the information for Sculptra I provided you. Regarding Facial Fat loss for HIV patients called Lipodystrophy. Google Image search it. You will see it does improve volume, and does NOTHING - for texture. Your expectation-biggest issue seems to be not liking surface texture which no filler or subcision will fix. It can improve scars as volume as added just as a facelift stretched the skin.
I wish you well,... Again sometimes Drs cannot do anything for you, or it's not a good fit for the outcome you wish. It is the patients right to file against the health authority of their country if they wish or find another Dr who better meets their outcomes and personality.
Acne Scar Work does work if patient expectations of outcome are realistic, healing occurs, with a proper professional-skill. Your in less than a percentage point who does not respond "0%" improvement statistically. I would have to see pictures before and after and the Instagram you say he posted to give a better evaluation. Again I Wold not bother with acne.org or acne scar treatments, goto a few plastic surgeons for consultation. - Serenity Prayer "God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference.
BA
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tryinghard123
Posted October 9
He is the last person I want to see lol thanks but no thanks and I know of a few people who are unhappy with this fraud as he posts pictures in different lighting....stay well clear of him.......he is a fraud....
My main thing is to see what people think of a proper plastic surgeon who can perform a facelift of some type as when you stretch and pull the skin it looks better and rather taut?
I am not at all interested in fillers, subcision, needling it does nothing as you can see
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Posted October 10
Lasers dont do nothing they dont go down deep enough for my type of scars...waste of time and money
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Posted November 8
He is a criminal bastard....spent thousands....then hes posting pictures on instagram of my face in different lighting and all the scars are still there....ENOUGH PROOF
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Posted November 5
listen at the end of the day the guy dr lim is biggest fraudster....his pics are posted in different lighting befores and afters....he does this every single time......he is the BIGGEST fraudster and thief.....spent thousands at him should be put on ACA and shamed
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Posted yesterday at 02:40 PM
alot of it is fraud....i have tried everything......subcision, lasers, dermal grafts, fillers, rf needling absoulutely 0 PERCENT IMPROVEMENT
just have to maybe accept it and not get frauded by doctors
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Posted November 8
tca cross makes scars bigger its false hope
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Posted November 9
ok i did subcision and filler and i got 0 percent improvement......you have been warned stay WELL away from him
also did tca cross by him which actually made my scars BIGGER
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tryinghard123
Posted 2 hours ago
hi how did you find tca cross? did it make your scars bigger or improvement?
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tryinghard123
my rolling scars are there yes i admit that....but.....they are not real deep as perceived.....i have quite a few ice pick and boxcar scars and am trying 50 percent tca cross myself but it looks like it makes the scars larger
i will correct you i have tried the lot - lasers fillers excisions grafts needling with no improvement at all....still looks the same over the whole 20 years i have been doing it
that is why i am thinking of facelift with fat transfer as it is the only treatment i have not done
with respect to the lady above in after photo she has rubbed makeup obviously which disguises it better so there is no improvement in that photo
and she is smiling in the 2nd photo too
i did 2 full treatments of subcision at him for 2000 dollars EACH 4000 ALL UP and saw 0 percent results....that is FACT
if he cant do it he should say so and not scam other peoples hard earned money and then post on instagram pictures that are fake
he is a fraud and a liar and i know many who say the same of him
and i cannot find any doctors who do acne scars and specialise in sculptra do u know of any?
thanks
i did 2 sessions of fillers and subcisions with him each 4000 dollars all up.....
oh and 10 minutes work all up and 30 minutes he was talking lol....he is a scam
Hi there,
You have made a serious accusation against Dr Lim. Perhaps I will inquire with Dr Lim's office for his response, he is not allowed to post here on the forums after all as a Dr.
Can you help us understand how this is true. I have seen no before and after pictures to compare. You state he used your pictures in a Instagram and they were not truthful, please provide that video or picture (And Before and After Pictures) so we can compare.
You state "how do I find TCA Cross," to do it at home on yourself, and yet you say, it did not work with several other Drs. You state you did excisions and dermal grafting, Dr Lim does not do Dermal Grafting that is Goodman and he "tries" to help improve those patients. You state you spent 4000$ for Subcision, I have never seen this charge unless they used filler, laser, and did several things at once which possible. If it takes him 10 minutes surgery and 30 minutes talk that is what you pay for in a expert, whatever it takes to do the surgery. Your original intent to post was for plastic surgery - facelift as "that is the only thing you have not tried." If you have had "0%" improvement in all other treatments why would a facelift help, this proves you heal poorly and it would not meet your expectations.
A Dr can "try" to help you and it just does not work out, nothing is 100%. But "0%" improvement...
You state you want fat grafting, yet you know multiple- surgeries and long procedures must be done, it can turn out lumpy as @arug stated before to you (she had happen), your body can absorb the fat in 3 - years. Why not get a filler and avoid all that. But you state you had "0%" improvement from fillers, which is not possible unless nothing was used. Look at any overfilled Hollywood actress. If your biggest complaint is icepicks and TCA did nothing, you would have to get them excised or cut out, no: filler, subcision, or laser will fix icepicks.
Why would you go back and spend thousands of dollars with a Dr who gave you "0%" improvement, why continue on treatment. You seem skeptical now which is logical but not treating over 20 years doing all these procedures if they gave you "0%" improvement and drained your pocket book. Every Dr must be a fraud after all if it was 20 year of treatments. Dr Lim was not even practicing 20 years ago in AUS for scars.
I have never seen "0%" improvement, poor healing yes, ... perhaps a bad procedure for that person but not "all" procedures, producing "0%." You do realize at 0% as you state if you cut yourself, or got a bruise you would not even heal from it at all and it would cause your body to be worse as it does not heal. If another Dr did your dermal grafts and you had other procedures with other Drs as you state isn't it unfair to blame that all on Dr Lim who said "dermal grafting, can make 'idiosyncratic scarring'new-scarring and make things worse." Treatment is hard afterwards to try to offer some improvement to the patient.
I think your looking for something magic, glass smooth skin, photoshop results, perfection - BDD. Nothing will give you results at "0%" improvement (after all those surgeries) if you want me to save you the headache. I would accept it and move on. Stop now and enjoy your life and money, take a trip, your scarring is not severe, I would say moderate in the picture you produced. You have age (42) related issues (which happen naturally), but this has nothing to do with scarring. You do realize these procedures do not last forever, age is a constant battle to find corrective aesthetic treatment as we loose bone and fat.
So yes at this point goto 3 plastic surgeons and get their opinion even if you have to pay for the consultation, and discuss a face lift. Perhaps you will be happy with them. But I am warning you this will not fix your acne scars but pull the skin tighter/taunt.
Can I ask you please not troll the other members who will get improvement from acne scar treatments. It is again a cognitive distortion to say all will ___________ because I ____________. https://psychcentral.com/lib/15-common-cognitive-distortions/
Several things in life might work for the majority but not for you, life is not fair. Why make others loose all hope, when they can improve. I think this whole experience has taken a mental toll on you and as such therapy/therapist could help you, that is half the battle with acne scars. Scar work is not only based on the Dr's skill but your ability to heal - "Insanity Is Doing the Same Thing Over and Over Again and Expecting Different Results" (Albert Einstein).
You state you did not like the information for Sculptra I provided you. Regarding Facial Fat loss for HIV patients called Lipodystrophy. Google Image search it. You will see it does improve volume, and does NOTHING - for texture. Your expectation-biggest issue seems to be not liking surface texture which no filler or subcision will fix. It can improve scars as volume as added just as a facelift stretched the skin.
I wish you well,... Again sometimes Drs cannot do anything for you, or it's not a good fit for the outcome you wish. It is the patients right to file against the health authority of their country if they wish or find another Dr who better meets their outcomes and personality.
Acne Scar Work does work if patient expectations of outcome are realistic, healing occurs, with a proper professional-skill. Your in less than a percentage point who does not respond "0%" improvement statistically. I would have to see pictures before and after and the Instagram you say he posted to give a better evaluation. Again I Wold not bother with acne.org or acne scar treatments, goto a few plastic surgeons for consultation. - Serenity Prayer "God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference.
BA
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tryinghard123
Posted October 9
He is the last person I want to see lol thanks but no thanks and I know of a few people who are unhappy with this fraud as he posts pictures in different lighting....stay well clear of him.......he is a fraud....
My main thing is to see what people think of a proper plastic surgeon who can perform a facelift of some type as when you stretch and pull the skin it looks better and rather taut?
I am not at all interested in fillers, subcision, needling it does nothing as you can see
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Posted October 10
Lasers dont do nothing they dont go down deep enough for my type of scars...waste of time and money
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Posted November 8
He is a criminal bastard....spent thousands....then hes posting pictures on instagram of my face in different lighting and all the scars are still there....ENOUGH PROOF
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Posted November 5
listen at the end of the day the guy dr lim is biggest fraudster....his pics are posted in different lighting befores and afters....he does this every single time......he is the BIGGEST fraudster and thief.....spent thousands at him should be put on ACA and shamed
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Posted yesterday at 02:40 PM
alot of it is fraud....i have tried everything......subcision, lasers, dermal grafts, fillers, rf needling absoulutely 0 PERCENT IMPROVEMENT
just have to maybe accept it and not get frauded by doctors
______
Posted November 8
tca cross makes scars bigger its false hope
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Posted November 9
ok i did subcision and filler and i got 0 percent improvement......you have been warned stay WELL away from him
also did tca cross by him which actually made my scars BIGGER
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tryinghard123
Posted 2 hours ago
hi how did you find tca cross? did it make your scars bigger or improvement?
ok i am not after glass smooth skin impossible.....but.....i am paying for dermatologists/doctors services a fortune and virtually nothing has been done....if they cant do it why do they do it? that is not right to me
i know they are not really severe but are still very noticeable.....i will still keep chasing for further improvement
and i want to ask you yes a facelift does make the skin stretched and taut and can this make the scars appear larger....what are your views?
and as for excision can it make the ice pick/boxcar type scars smaller? i will keep searching for dermatologists who can offer something improved
and i never stated i did not like sculptra as i have not done it before....do u know where they offer it in australia or brisbane for that matter? and is it permanent?
I wouldn't expect a response from Trying Hard. So basically he has called a doctor a 'fraud' but will not provide any real details. I would love to see the Instagram post he is referring to, if there actually is one. This is a bit frustrating because I will probably eventually will see Lim and it's hard to sort through real and fake reviews. Both negative and positive.
Zero percent improvement from fillers? Really?
And he has gotten zero improvement in numerous scar procedures across 20 years, yet he keeps going back again. Hmm.
This has to be the biggest joke of a thread of all time. Basically it started with a guy who blames a doctor because he performed a dangerous at home procedure because he saw a YouTube video. He aint qualified like the doctor in the video, but that didn't stop him. Basically he thought he could copy a doctor by watching a video. Then the rest of the thread just became a big doctor bagging thread without providing any specific details or photographic evidence.
When reporting to the moderators about the trolling, the basic response was there were no rules broken. Probably because there are no rules. At least this thread has provided a few laughs.
I think @tryinghard123has a valid point. Every person is entitled to their SUBJECTIVE option regarding their progress, however an OBJECTIVE one is needed. Saying zero percent is certainly a harsh call, however you maybe correct. Lim never ""pursues"" legal action, unlike many other doctors, he takes matters into his own hands by politely requesting if he can review your notes, and post everything online. Notes, photos, receipts of payment, and letter back to your doctor. This way it is transparent. If you give permission all material can be posted and discussed.
Back to your scars, they are hard to treat, but an improvement is certainly possible after 6-8 sessions. You have pick, ice pick, box car, rolling, atrophic and tethered scarring, in possibly ? Ethic skin type 3? 2 sessions should show an improvement, a face lift won't do much, and is not covered under Medicare, fat grafting will definitely make your scars worse as your tethering will hold areas of fat in uneven distribution. If you had grafting with punch excisions by Lim, that would have been over 10 years ago. He only performs punch or surgical elevations and stopped dermal grafting around that time. Surgery in your skin type with point scarring would most likely result in worsening of your scars - namely wound widening. I assume that is what is happening as you are selecting the scars to which YOU perceive TCA is the 'cure'.
Really curious to see the notes and references from your treating doctor. This would lay accusations to rest, and like you said....it could be a really good story for exposing a fraudster. On the flip side it could cost you a few hundred thousand dollars in slander if legal recourse is sought. I think for now you should concentrate on getting your scars fixed. See Dr Russel Hills, or if you want the best dermatologist who has good reviews on acne scarring see Dr Danny Lanzer in Melbourne. Please don't place acid on your face to re confirm that your scars are widening- worsening with each treatment. Then repeating the process to confirm your theory.