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(@aghhne)

Posted : 06/04/2013 7:52 am

Hello everyone. I am going to try alternate water fasting after my exams cause i believe i need my nutrients for brain power :). Anyways, i have also done some research about this and pls people who will say negative things, pls put references/evidences. Main reason for this is to detoxify, help my skin heal faster, and possibly help some shallow scars fill in faster. I plan on eating less day by day then start the alternate water fast. I will stop doing it after 2 weeks if i see no improvement.

 

What are your thoughts about this? Does this sound like a good plan?

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(@aanabill)

Posted : 06/04/2013 8:49 am

why dont u start by pointing out the mechanism and benefits of this fasting.

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(@aghhne)

Posted : 06/04/2013 9:46 pm

Basically, the body uses the energy, that is supposed to be used for digesting, to heal your body. The body also uses the stored energy as well from your cells. It will detoxify your system and help heal wounds,acne,etc. faster and possibly better. It is riskier if you do water fasting for more than 3 days but more benefits as the risk increases. I dont like risks that's why im doing this alternately which means fast one day the eat the next day then fast again.

 

If you want more details you can either search this forums ( There is a LOT, i got a lot of info here as well as experiences from other people) or search the internet.

 

why dont u start by pointing out the mechanism and benefits of this fasting.

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(@aanabill)

Posted : 06/05/2013 1:01 am

although i myself am trying to figure out pluses and minuses of intermittent fasting,i'd still say fasting intermittently is better that doing so on alternate days.

why?

because i read somewhere that although its done basically keeping in mind the animals fasting(on alternate days or so) but we human cant consume enough on the food days so u will lose weight.

plus the time span is almost 34-38 hrs depending on when u eat.

i personally dnt support staying food-less for so long because i have heard and its a common bad thing.

it does give ur organs some bad signals too.

so if u can do IF instead.

u should weigh both ends before u step in.

if u give some time,i'll give u a lil' more picture of goods and bads.

i myself am working on IF.

but not fasting on alternate days(i wont do that ever).

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(@quirky-fox)

Posted : 06/08/2013 11:04 am

Our bodies are already equipped with the mechanism to detoxify our system - it's called your liver and kidneys. What "toxins" are you cleansing? Do you eat toxins? What do these "toxins" do and why can't your liver and kidneys process them without a "detox"? Your liver and kidneys do not store toxins so there is no need to flush them out with "detox" methods. There is no scientific proof that these "detox" programs have any positive results.

Prolonged fasting is dangerous, especially if all you're taking in is water.

Your scars will not fill in in two weeks anyway so attempting to "detox" your body for that length of time can only spell danger.

If you want proof or reference material all you have to do is a Google search and you'll find many.

Eat healthily, get exercise and let your body do its job.

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(@aanabill)

Posted : 06/08/2013 1:29 pm

even though i dnt agree with the fact that detoxing gives no positive results (and yes,detoxification of organs which are exhausted or at one point overloaded is a good thought) but one neednt go to extremes.

u can change ur dietary habits and do good things to slow down the load and rejuvinate it.

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(@panos)

Posted : 06/08/2013 1:36 pm

40 days of orange juice fast wil give new skin.(and of course reduce scarring).

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(@quirky-fox)

Posted : 06/09/2013 9:48 am

40 days of orange juice fast wil give new skin.(and of course reduce scarring).

40 days of orange juice fasting will weaken your teeth and give you diarrhoea. I doubt you'd see any reduction in scarring...

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(@aghhne)

Posted : 06/09/2013 11:03 am

Our bodies are already equipped with the mechanism to detoxify our system - it's called your liver and kidneys. What "toxins" are you cleansing? Do you eat toxins? What do these "toxins" do and why can't your liver and kidneys process them without a "detox"? Your liver and kidneys do not store toxins so there is no need to flush them out with "detox" methods. There is no scientific proof that these "detox" programs have any positive results.

Prolonged fasting is dangerous, especially if all you're taking in is water.

Your scars will not fill in in two weeks anyway so attempting to "detox" your body for that length of time can only spell danger.

If you want proof or reference material all you have to do is a Google search and you'll find many.

Eat healthily, get exercise and let your body do its job.

Thank you for your thoughts. I am opening my mind to all input but of course i wont base my decision on just 1 input. Well google searching..... you get positive and negative reviews there so i dont really know what to believe that's why i search experiences. I definitely 110% agree with you with scars not filling in in 2 weeks but if i see even the slightest improvement i am willing to give it a bit more time. For the risks, yes everything that can do good will always have their risks. But, if i am not risking anything, i won't be able to move forward though i am a person who hates risk. That's why I chose alternate day fasting cause then it has the lowest risk plus if something "bad" happens I will discontinue it.

although i myself am trying to figure out pluses and minuses of intermittent fasting,i'd still say fasting intermittently is better that doing so on alternate days.

why?

because i read somewhere that although its done basically keeping in mind the animals fasting(on alternate days or so) but we human cant consume enough on the food days so u will lose weight.

plus the time span is almost 34-38 hrs depending on when u eat.

i personally dnt support staying food-less for so long because i have heard and its a common bad thing.

it does give ur organs some bad signals too.

so if u can do IF instead.

u should weigh both ends before u step in.

if u give some time,i'll give u a lil' more picture of goods and bads.

i myself am working on IF.

but not fasting on alternate days(i wont do that ever).

Ok ill give it sometime. I will wait for your information. Sorry but im not good with english so i coudn't understand what intermittently means. What's the difference with intermittent fasting and alternate fasting?

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(@panos)

Posted : 06/09/2013 1:39 pm

40 days of orange juice fast wil give new skin.(and of course reduce scarring).

40 days of orange juice fasting will weaken your teeth and give you diarrhoea. I doubt you'd see any reduction in scarring...

Lmao.Try it and see what you can come up with.

Its 40 days.Its powerfull.All of the acids will be expelled and a new ''you'' its gonna be you.

40 days.How can you dismiss 40 whole days only on orange juice twice a day?

Weird thinking ;/

For now you can only believe.

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(@quirky-fox)

Posted : 06/09/2013 8:41 pm

I would love to believe that that would help but I don't. :) Sounds like torture! I will stick to what I know works.

 

If it works for you then kudos to that. Have you got any links to research on this so I can learn more?

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(@panos)

Posted : 06/10/2013 5:09 am

I would love to believe that that would help but I don't. smile.png Sounds like torture! I will stick to what I know works.

If it works for you then kudos to that. Have you got any links to research on this so I can learn more?

Just type water fasting/juice fasting scar and see the myriads claiming about scar healing.

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(@quirky-fox)

Posted : 06/10/2013 11:00 pm

They may claim that, but I have found no scientific studies or conclusions to prove that this improves anything in your body.

 

People have complained of cramps and dizzy spells, not to mention dramatic weight loss. My conclusion is that it's dangerous to do this to your body.

 

Vitamin C is acidic... your teeth will hate you for it. Juice, orange in particular, degrades enamel. Even if this fast helped scarring I wouldn't do it. My teeth are more important.

 

I won't say any more on the matter.

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(@panos)

Posted : 06/11/2013 7:48 am

They may claim that, but I have found no scientific studies or conclusions to prove that this improves anything in your body.

People have complained of cramps and dizzy spells, not to mention dramatic weight loss. My conclusion is that it's dangerous to do this to your body.

Vitamin C is acidic... your teeth will hate you for it. Juice, orange in particular, degrades enamel. Even if this fast helped scarring I wouldn't do it. My teeth are more important.

I won't say any more on the matter.

First of all ,there is no science behind anything today.Nothing important has discovered after 1900 that can help health.

Only few things to be honest.And many other destructive things(like your products you are using in your signature).

Then,you can drink orange juice without even touching your teeth.Or you can wash your mouth afterwards with water.

Again weird thinking:/

When your body will have nothing toxic to digest ,it will heal every imperfection.Spiritualism will come along with real regeneration.

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(@quirky-fox)

Posted : 06/11/2013 9:26 am

This is getting way off topic now. It's clear that you and I are worlds apart in thinking, which is fine, but to say that there has been nothing important discovered or developed since 1900 is a joke.

 

The products I put on my skin are scientifically designed to maximize skin health. They are derived from natural sources and are not damaging. Please consider doing a bit of research before making wild claims.

 

It's clear you are a spiritual person. I respect that, but I am not. I believe in science and scientific studies. So perhaps it's a good idea that we agree to disagree and leave it at that. :)

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(@aghhne)

Posted : 06/11/2013 9:42 am

 

To Quirky fox and Panos,

I agree with both of you, while i am a spiritual person i am also logical. The fact that science doesnt know everything, it only knows what the function of something or what it does for most of the things. But science does give you an idea of how things work but science can always be wrong like how long time ago they thought the earth was round or like life. They can't really explain how life works and such. Nevertheless, i still believe science and it is "closer" to the truth than just mere "guesses".

 

I am interested in what Panos is saying..

How did you do it? Specifically?

What changes has it brought upon you.

Although 40 days is very powerful, like i said, it will always come with a greater risk.

I wanted to start with alternate fasting cause I dont want to do it suddenly. If i do see improvements i will continue to increase the days of fasting.

Please give more details to the "orange fasting" cause i want to learn. Thank you :)

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(@panos)

Posted : 06/11/2013 4:18 pm

Hey there.I cant do an orange fasst for 4o days.I am already skinny.I dont want to starve to death.

There is a dude at curezone.Go to the forum ''ask barefoot'' and aski him about everything you wanna know about fasting and orange juice.

People report results with water fasting also. Our kidney is what makes us dont heal scars.And if we help it,it will help us.\

Quirky you really need to understand that everything that is produced massively its being chemically abused

and never natural.Natural remedy for example is putting brown sugar and lemon juice onto the scar.

Also natural remedy is mixing jojoba and castor oil(50/50) put it on your face and then cover it with plastic wrap(i have seen btw

a claim about this removing 100% acne scar).I am here to help you and me and others and get help.

Who knows what industries put in ther pharmaceuticals.\

Thats why we have to use fasts,natural oils and methods,even urine.

Natural methods works and gives you faith to NATURE.

Industrial methods barely work and give you faith in acquiring MONEY so you can keep buying.

We need to stimulate quality blood to the areas and that is what fast does by eliminating most of the shit

we have poisoned our bodies for years.

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Posted : 06/11/2013 10:56 pm

AghhNe, I wish you all the best! Keep a journal and keep us posted. Xx

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(@aanabill)

Posted : 06/12/2013 3:58 am

am sorry but as much as i want to be natural and go organic,scar(real deep scars that are main concerns) treatment is not very successful with natural home made methods.

its not like no one has ever tried.

in my country atleast there are many many who go for expensive stuff only after they've failed using home stuff.

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(@aghhne)

Posted : 06/12/2013 9:53 pm

I'll post my results here but it's not going to be any soon since i have exams and i need to focus on that.

 

Anabil,

I always ask this question but no one seems to respond. What makes a scar deep or shallow? Any distinct qualities? Im really confused whether my scar is deep or not. Your from india right? I heard from indians that sandalwood powder works great. I researched it and found no negative things about it. I wanted to use it but i coudn't find one in my area.. So sad.. India is so great with their natural remedies.

 

Hey there.I cant do an orange fasst for 4o days.I am already skinny.I dont want to starve to death.

There is a dude at curezone.Go to the forum ''ask barefoot'' and aski him about everything you wanna know about fasting and orange juice.

People report results with water fasting also. Our kidney is what makes us dont heal scars.And if we help it,it will help us.\

Quirky you really need to understand that everything that is produced massively its being chemically abused

and never natural.Natural remedy for example is putting brown sugar and lemon juice onto the scar.

Also natural remedy is mixing jojoba and castor oil(50/50) put it on your face and then cover it with plastic wrap(i have seen btw

a claim about this removing 100% acne scar).I am here to help you and me and others and get help.

 

Who knows what industries put in ther pharmaceuticals.\

Thats why we have to use fasts,natural oils and methods,even urine.

Natural methods works and gives you faith to NATURE.

Industrial methods barely work and give you faith in acquiring MONEY so you can keep buying.

We need to stimulate quality blood to the areas and that is what fast does by eliminating most of the shit

we have poisoned our bodies for years.

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(@aquasea)

Posted : 06/12/2013 10:57 pm

 

Hi AghhNe,

Good for you in researching & testing natural therapies!!!

 

And you made me laugh about your comment that your family would tell the whole world you used urine therapy. :D..however, perhaps they wouldn't tease you if they knew a respected Indian Prime Minister attributed his long life and great health to his daily urine therapy!

 

Anyway, I'm interested in natural therapies and might research fasting to heal scars too...I also might try fasting one or two days per week of just fresh lemon juice/ spring water/ cayenne pepper/ (and possibly pure 100% organic maple syrup) - it's called the Master Cleanse...I might even swap the spring water for coconut water...will let you know if I start and if I see any positive results...

 

Thanks for starting this post...

 

Cheers :)

 

 

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(@aanabill)

Posted : 06/13/2013 1:46 am

I'll post my results here but it's not going to be any soon since i have exams and i need to focus on that.

Anabil,

I always ask this question but no one seems to respond. What makes a scar deep or shallow? Any distinct qualities? Im really confused whether my scar is deep or not. Your from india right? I heard from indians that sandalwood powder works great. I researched it and found no negative things about it. I wanted to use it but i coudn't find one in my area.. So sad.. India is so great with their natural remedies.

Hey there.I cant do an orange fasst for 4o days.I am already skinny.I dont want to starve to death.

There is a dude at curezone.Go to the forum ''ask barefoot'' and aski him about everything you wanna know about fasting and orange juice.

People report results with water fasting also. Our kidney is what makes us dont heal scars.And if we help it,it will help us.\

Quirky you really need to understand that everything that is produced massively its being chemically abused

and never natural.Natural remedy for example is putting brown sugar and lemon juice onto the scar.

Also natural remedy is mixing jojoba and castor oil(50/50) put it on your face and then cover it with plastic wrap(i have seen btw

a claim about this removing 100% acne scar).I am here to help you and me and others and get help.

Who knows what industries put in ther pharmaceuticals.\

Thats why we have to use fasts,natural oils and methods,even urine.

Natural methods works and gives you faith to NATURE.

Industrial methods barely work and give you faith in acquiring MONEY so you can keep buying.

We need to stimulate quality blood to the areas and that is what fast does by eliminating most of the shit

we have poisoned our bodies for years.

Sorry to ask again but have you tried any of these methods that have worked or gave an improvement? Like the castor oil and jonoba thing. Sounds interesting. My niece used urine for her face and my mom noticed she look younger. She even asked her what she used on her face, she was very suprised. I would like to try urine but, at the morning im very lazy if im going to put urine. If i did, my brothers would tease me and tell it to the whole fudging world, even my dad would tell others. They just think im crazy im doing these stuff to my face and they think im harming it. They shoudve seen people who use BP, accutane, antibiotics, etc. i sont use those, just very gentle cleanser and natural remedies.

sandalwood paste can never heal "SCARS".

scars aint PIH.

deep scars are scars that are indented to a great extend.

although i am not an expert in scars but its easy to understand.

scars and marks are differnt.u can heal or lighten marks easily but scars aint that easy.

whoevr gave u that sandalwood info(considering its linked to india) is mad.

please do not believe anything and everything they say linked to india.

i've been seeing a lot of stuff being said about my country of late(in differnt posts).

they are either bad or good.

in ur case,its good.and am glad but u see its not going to work.

so at the end,india will be blamed.

india offers many home remedies but one who knows,knows that not all will work.

good luck

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(@aghhne)

Posted : 06/13/2013 4:17 pm

I'll post my results here but it's not going to be any soon since i have exams and i need to focus on that.

Anabil,

I always ask this question but no one seems to respond. What makes a scar deep or shallow? Any distinct qualities? Im really confused whether my scar is deep or not. Your from india right? I heard from indians that sandalwood powder works great. I researched it and found no negative things about it. I wanted to use it but i coudn't find one in my area.. So sad.. India is so great with their natural remedies.

Hey there.I cant do an orange fasst for 4o days.I am already skinny.I dont want to starve to death.

There is a dude at curezone.Go to the forum ''ask barefoot'' and aski him about everything you wanna know about fasting and orange juice.

People report results with water fasting also. Our kidney is what makes us dont heal scars.And if we help it,it will help us.\

Quirky you really need to understand that everything that is produced massively its being chemically abused

and never natural.Natural remedy for example is putting brown sugar and lemon juice onto the scar.

Also natural remedy is mixing jojoba and castor oil(50/50) put it on your face and then cover it with plastic wrap(i have seen btw

a claim about this removing 100% acne scar).I am here to help you and me and others and get help.

Who knows what industries put in ther pharmaceuticals.\

Thats why we have to use fasts,natural oils and methods,even urine.

Natural methods works and gives you faith to NATURE.

Industrial methods barely work and give you faith in acquiring MONEY so you can keep buying.

We need to stimulate quality blood to the areas and that is what fast does by eliminating most of the shit

we have poisoned our bodies for years.

Sorry to ask again but have you tried any of these methods that have worked or gave an improvement? Like the castor oil and jonoba thing. Sounds interesting. My niece used urine for her face and my mom noticed she look younger. She even asked her what she used on her face, she was very suprised. I would like to try urine but, at the morning im very lazy if im going to put urine. If i did, my brothers would tease me and tell it to the whole fudging world, even my dad would tell others. They just think im crazy im doing these stuff to my face and they think im harming it. They shoudve seen people who use BP, accutane, antibiotics, etc. i sont use those, just very gentle cleanser and natural remedies.

sandalwood paste can never heal "SCARS".

scars aint PIH.

deep scars are scars that are indented to a great extend.

although i am not an expert in scars but its easy to understand.

scars and marks are differnt.u can heal or lighten marks easily but scars aint that easy.

whoevr gave u that sandalwood info(considering its linked to india) is mad.

please do not believe anything and everything they say linked to india.

i've been seeing a lot of stuff being said about my country of late(in differnt posts).

they are either bad or good.

in ur case,its good.and am glad but u see its not going to work.

so at the end,india will be blamed.

india offers many home remedies but one who knows,knows that not all will work.

good luck

I think i phrased my paragraph wrong. I agree sandalwood cannot erase scars. i was referring to it being effective for hyperpigmentation and acne. Almost all the reviews i see are good, actually all of them are.

Don't worry i wont blame any country. I know not everything works for everyone. Even the best remedy will not work for everyone. I hope i didnt offend anyone.

Can you go into details about deep scars and shallow? What is an indented scar to a "great extent"?

How would you differentiate a shallow scar to a deep one?

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(@aghhne)

Posted : 06/13/2013 7:21 pm

Hi AghhNe,

Good for you in researching & testing natural therapies!!!

And you made me laugh about your comment that your family would tell the whole world you used urine therapy. :D..however, perhaps they wouldn't tease you if they knew a respected Indian Prime Minister attributed his long life and great health to his daily urine therapy!

Anyway, I'm interested in natural therapies and might research fasting to heal scars too...I also might try fasting one or two days per week of just fresh lemon juice/ spring water/ cayenne pepper/ (and possibly pure 100% organic maple syrup) - it's called the Master Cleanse...I might even swap the spring water for coconut water...will let you know if I start and if I see any positive results...

Thanks for starting this post...

Pls do update us. :) good luck!

Cheers :)

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(@aanabill)

Posted : 06/14/2013 3:20 am

I'll post my results here but it's not going to be any soon since i have exams and i need to focus on that.

Anabil,

I always ask this question but no one seems to respond. What makes a scar deep or shallow? Any distinct qualities? Im really confused whether my scar is deep or not. Your from india right? I heard from indians that sandalwood powder works great. I researched it and found no negative things about it. I wanted to use it but i coudn't find one in my area.. So sad.. India is so great with their natural remedies.

Hey there.I cant do an orange fasst for 4o days.I am already skinny.I dont want to starve to death.

There is a dude at curezone.Go to the forum ''ask barefoot'' and aski him about everything you wanna know about fasting and orange juice.

People report results with water fasting also. Our kidney is what makes us dont heal scars.And if we help it,it will help us.\

Quirky you really need to understand that everything that is produced massively its being chemically abused

and never natural.Natural remedy for example is putting brown sugar and lemon juice onto the scar.

Also natural remedy is mixing jojoba and castor oil(50/50) put it on your face and then cover it with plastic wrap(i have seen btw

a claim about this removing 100% acne scar).I am here to help you and me and others and get help.

Who knows what industries put in ther pharmaceuticals.\

Thats why we have to use fasts,natural oils and methods,even urine.

Natural methods works and gives you faith to NATURE.

Industrial methods barely work and give you faith in acquiring MONEY so you can keep buying.

We need to stimulate quality blood to the areas and that is what fast does by eliminating most of the shit

we have poisoned our bodies for years.

Sorry to ask again but have you tried any of these methods that have worked or gave an improvement? Like the castor oil and jonoba thing. Sounds interesting. My niece used urine for her face and my mom noticed she look younger. She even asked her what she used on her face, she was very suprised. I would like to try urine but, at the morning im very lazy if im going to put urine. If i did, my brothers would tease me and tell it to the whole fudging world, even my dad would tell others. They just think im crazy im doing these stuff to my face and they think im harming it. They shoudve seen people who use BP, accutane, antibiotics, etc. i sont use those, just very gentle cleanser and natural remedies.

sandalwood paste can never heal "SCARS".

scars aint PIH.

deep scars are scars that are indented to a great extend.

although i am not an expert in scars but its easy to understand.

scars and marks are differnt.u can heal or lighten marks easily but scars aint that easy.

whoevr gave u that sandalwood info(considering its linked to india) is mad.

please do not believe anything and everything they say linked to india.

i've been seeing a lot of stuff being said about my country of late(in differnt posts).

they are either bad or good.

in ur case,its good.and am glad but u see its not going to work.

so at the end,india will be blamed.

india offers many home remedies but one who knows,knows that not all will work.

good luck

I think i phrased my paragraph wrong. I agree sandalwood cannot erase scars. i was referring to it being effective for hyperpigmentation and acne. Almost all the reviews i see are good, actually all of them are.

Don't worry i wont blame any country. I know not everything works for everyone. Even the best remedy will not work for everyone. I hope i didnt offend anyone.

Can you go into details about deep scars and shallow? What is an indented scar to a "great extent"?

How would you differentiate a shallow scar to a deep one?

no no,i dint get offended.i am just stating some facts.

anyway,

see sandalwood is a great thing for acne(zits or inflamed acne) and PIH but not scars.

there are two kind (commonly) of sandalwood.red and white- thats used for skincare.

one should be careful about using natural ones.

i got one powdered sandalwood pack once and it did break me out.

i could actually make out that its not pure.it had added stuff.the best bet is to get a wood piece and then rub it with either pure rose water or simply water to get a paste.

application twice(or at least once a day) shows good result!

as for scars,i have one deep indented scar and few others are shallow ones.

i will try to give a pic.

did u fo through the scar forum or gallery to check pics?

pls do.

like i have said i am not an expert on scars.i am not well versed with the terms like box,ice pick(i just have a sketchy ideas)!

i will try my best to explain u what i mean.

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