Hey all, just bought my iodine yesterday and will be arriving this friday. Cant wait to start it.
I will keep you posted as i go along but i am sticking with it for the recommended time (at least 6 months) and following all Dr. Derry said, the below post is what i emailed him my questions in bold and his in italic (he was extremely helpful and patient with my questions lol), start from the bottom and work your way up. I hope this helps and hope all who are wiith this for the 6months minimum update too.
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"That looks fine as it is 5% iodine
David
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Hi Dr,
Happy new year, starting the iodine feb ... will this product be suitable or is there a specific brand?
Thanks
Craig
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Hi Craig
Wiki Encyclopedia is not often wrong but in this case it is. The opposite occurs with patience.
Scars are put back to normal skin and if applied after surgery no scar occurs.
Merry Christmas
David
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Hi again,
HAPPY XMAS DR.
I was a bit worried after reading the above link that it can leave scarring, does this apply to face skin?
Sorry to ask the million questions i just dont want to make anything worse if you know what i mean.
Thanks again
Craig
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Hi Craig
I think you can buy the Lugolas in the U.K. at the chemistas or pharmacy. I would buy either 100 or 200 mls of at 5% iodine in water. It usually costs about 10-20 dollars over here in Canada. It has a dark color which stains skin light brown when applied once a day.
Use a natural hair brush. You can get that at an art store.
I hope that helps
Season greetings.
David
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Thanks, where can i purchase the lugols from?
If you could show me a link of what it looks like then i will know which one i am looking for in chemist.
Thanks again for your help
Craig
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Hi Craig
I used Lugolas solution which iodine in water. It is a 5% iodine solution. This can be bought over the counter everywhere except in the US. Otherwise it can be bought off the internet. Buy about 200 mls which should be around 20 dollars.
Put on a layer of the iodine to make a tan color to the skin.
I recommend you try the solution on every day on one scar just to see how it works. Regeneration is not obvious but it is happening unless you use a plastic wrap which is awkward on the face.
Because I am unfamiliar with the use of the dermaroller I donat have any suggestions there.
It should take several months to regenerate the skin back to normal skin but it might be faster.
If you havenat been to the acne.org site it may be worth your while.
David
Derry
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Hi Dr,
You must get a million and one questions about the below link:-
I want to try this at home. I have around 5 scars on my face from acne and wanted to know how to do this.
I have my own home 1mm dermaroller and want to know
Which iodine to use if you can recommend one?
Do i just put the iodine on the scar and not the entire face?
How many times should i roll the scar (once per week/once a month) and how many times should i put the iodine on the scar (everynight and morning/once a day)
And that is all i think.
I am hoping you can get back to me as soon as possible so that i may start this process.
Thanks,
Craig
Hey guys,
wanted to tell you that I'm with you. I started iodine treatment some days ago. Let's hope it will help. What about the guys who are using it for some month? Any news?
Keep up posting.
NEO
Ps.: Anyone using lugol's dilution on a large area?
Some new words of Dr Derry:
"From my observations it seems regeneration moves at about the same rate with or without the plastic wrap.
If one maintains a tan colored stain over the scar you are trying to regenerate without plastic there is not much to see as it progresses.
But this applies to normal vision. When photographed at 7x magnification then the changes in the hair and regeneration material can be seen. This is best shown in the online articles at Thyroid Science under case report.
I honestly dont know how long a particular acne scar would take to heal but I would guess that it is variable. A small simple scar that is not deep would be faster than a bigger and deeper one but that is just common sense.
I would be surprised if daily applications took longer than six months but it is possible with a bad scar.
It is worth mentioning that if new acne lesions are still developing then putting some iodine on these will most likely stop a new scar from forming.
Sometimes the stain lasts for two days which is okay as well. If the stain starts to fade away because applications have been stopped for whatever reason then slowly over a few days the regeneration will stop.
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Ps.: Anyone using lugol's dilution on a large area?
the area i was treating was quite large i would say. pretty much all the front side of my shoulder. im treating stretch marks you see. i tried for a month then stopped and havent done any applications for probably close to a month now. i think im going to start up again tonight.
the thing is i have bad stretch marks all over my body so im unsure how many i could cover at one time whilst still being safe. i dont want to overdose. my shoulder is like the first test. if that works i will move onto all the other areas.
hows everyone else doing with treatment anyways? what about all those people who were here at the start? must be at the 2 month mark now. i would be extremely interested to hear how its going for everyone.
good luck guys
Hey guys, ive been applying Lugols for 4 days and I think overall my skin texture has improved abit (though its very subjective and I wont be definte on results).
I have a few questions though.
My lugols doesn't state the % of iodine, and I bought it from a fish shop. Is it one and the same? Cause, my friend told me that all lugols are 5%. But from what I heard from the forum there are lower and higher %.
Also I just drip the lugols on my cheeks (Cause my whole cheek is practically scarred, and the texture is also bad). Is it okay to apply this way?
And I notice that the stain lasts for only a few minutes? Why is that so? Since I heard many of you had the stains for hours at least.
I'm quite worried cause you guys said that the stain is a necessity for regeneration, if that i'll be putting on lugols in vain. But then again, im not sure what you guys say are correct? Cause some of you said that a plastic wrap is needed, and then I read again that it was not needed.
Overall the whole process of applying Lugols are very hazy and results are yet to be heard (I know it will take months, 4 more months and we should get our first posters with results).
AI3Forever:
Not every Lugols dilution is a 5% one. If I were you I would search for a 5% lugols dilution.
You can use your lugols all over your cheek. Read my last post. At the end you have something from Dr Derry:
- You don't need the plastic wrap. The plastic wrap is only for the seeing of the regeneration by making photos of it with a high magnification.
- Dr Derry believes that 6 month will be enough for scar regeneration. So patience is a huge factor.
I hope everything goes in the right direction.
NEO
where is everyone who started at the beginning of november?
Yeah where are you all hidin?
Has anyone had any results yet?
I have started tonight, no dermaroller, no extras, just the way Dr. Derry said. I am hoping it will work, i have seen pics of the process and i beleive it will work.
I am thinking my scars will be gone by June!!! 😀
Anyone ...updates please
Iodine? Really? Wow... That would be something if people, after having done this for six months would actually report back saying that their scars are gone.
I'm skeptical, though. I'm thinking to myself that if this was true, then it would have already become the standard for treating scars many years ago. But you never know. It just might be so.
I'll be reading, people. I'm looking forward to hearing more updates as time goes by. I hope it works out!
Hey guys,
has anyone treated his scars with the 5% lugols and his scars got swollen and red? How long will it take for the redness to go away. As Dr Derry told me my scars seem to be very sensitive to the iodine. I will try it next time with fewer iodine. Hope the redness will be mild.
Anyone else here who got this "problem"?
Some other news concering your scars? Dryness, texture improvement?
Go on guys.
NEO
Well it is kind of expected to get at least somewhat red. As for my scars I am not sure, cause most of them were already pretty red, and I commited myself not to pay much attention to them anyways, at least for the time being, i have other things to stress myself about. I hope those who started early will keep us updated, give tips and whatnot. Btw how do you guys manage the staining, does it even cause any major anoyance?
@eternal:
Calm down. lol
We will go on using iodine till it works or don't works. If more and more people are trying it, we will have more information about the procedure.
I used lugols on a wide area. My skin absorbed the iodine leaving almost no stain after one day.
The interesting thing is that only the scars became red and not the normal skin which was treated with iodine too. Interesting, isn't it?
@cartwheeling:
Thanks guy. Maybe you should use a lugols dilution which is not 5% because it is too harsh for your skin. Ask Dr Derry what to do. He will help you and give you some hints.
So long guys. As a progress report: I stopped the treatment for one week because my skin reacted to harsh on the lugols. I will start again after the redness went away and then I will hope that it works as good as before but without the extreme reaction. lol
NEO
Like I said before, if anyone here is claiming that they are seeing any real changes, they are lying. If you really have used iodine since the exact day this thread started (which I doubt), you still should not have been able to see anything that you can deffinetly say iodine was responsible for.
If you have a hole on your face that has been partially filled with scar tissue, basically like a deep hole you see outside that has been filled with sand but not completely to the top, which gives us that acne scar apperance, and then you try to solve the problem by not filling the rest of the hole, but by working from the bottom up slowly removing grains of sand and replacing it with original dirt or whatever material was originally there, then obviuosly at this rate, for many months the outside world looking at that hole can confidently say that there is nothing happening to it, since the surface remains looking the same. But that assumption will change only when enough time passes for the regeneration to reach the top, and afterwards continue to regenerate further until the entire hole is filled. Now, if it is projected that changes will start becoming visible in 6 months, then in 3 months the regeneration should be only half way from reaching the surface of the scar, meaning you should see pretty much nothing, and you will continue seeing no changes until it reaches the surface, and changes were estimated to be seen in 6 months, so if lugols regeneration works like Dr. Derry said, from the bottom up, theoricaly you shouldn't see anything until the projected time, not even a minute before that.
Anyways enough of that, but here is something from Derry.
"On September 29, 1862, Colonel John B. Gordon held the center of General Lee's army at the battle of Antietam, or Sharpsburg. The first volley from the northern lines sent a ball through the calf of Gordon's right leg; soon after, another went through the muscles of his thigh; a third pierced his left arm, tearing asunder the tendons and mangling the flesh; a forth ripped through his shoulder leaving a wad of clothing embedded in its track. Still, no bones were broken; but, while Gordon lingered in the firing line, "with", as he says himself, "but little of my usual strength", a fifth ball struck him squarely in the face.
Dr. Weatherly of the 6th Alabama Regiment, in charge of medical arrangements, had the Colonel removed to a base hospital, and prescribed tincture of iodine to be painted on the wounds three or four times a day. The case was unpromising. Gordon's eyelids were greatly swollen; one eye was completely closed, the other almost so; his jaw was immovably clenched, and, to make matters worse, erysipelas (staphylococcus infection of skin) had set in on the left arm.
Mrs. Gordon, his wife, who nursed him - her name was Fanny, and she was then a beautiful girl of 25 - put a liberal interpretation on her instructions and painted the wounds, not three or four times a day, but, as Gordon himself says: "I think three to four hundred time a day." Fanny's diligence and devotion were rewarded. Her husband survived, outlived the war, became the Governor of Georgia, a General, and Commander-in-Chief of the United Confederate Veterans. He died in 1904." (10)
I think Fanny knew iodine applied often was a more effective way to deliver iodine to the body especially applied on multiple sites. Likely Gordon's iodine blood levels and tissue levels rose throughout his body. As iodine is by far the best antibiotic, antiviral and antiseptic of all time, the colonel's body defenses were able to gain control of the infections. At the same time local repeated application to the wound sites caused the skin to grow up from its bottom where all the cells (Stem cells) that make normal skin are residing. Likely this minimized or eliminated scar formation. Thus Nyirias and Jannettias studies confirm why Fannyas method of treatment worked so brilliantly. Some of our recent serious skin diseases such a "flesh-eating disease" should respond quickly to topical iodine treatment practiced by Fanny. Or, for another example, iodine put onto a mosquito bite would kill all bacteria and viruses at the site of the bite within 10-30 seconds making it impossible for any virus or bacteria to multiply and get started --such as in West Nile Fever. Naturally, this applies to tic bites (Lyme's disease) as well. For many decades in the 1800s people carried around little bottles of iodine around their necks to use on all occasions. People in mosquito and tic infested areas should think of doing this again. (8) In addition, it has been forgotten vaporized iodine rapidly kills air borne viruses such as polio and SARS viruses.. Used extensively in the forties and fifties it may be of use to explore this approach again.
There has been no significant clinical research on iodine therapy or use for 40 years. (11-15) I feel it is important for research to be directed at this potentially significant area of medical treatment. It is worth noting the greatest part of significant research with iodine was done before the Medline search facilities were available. Of course, since large doses of iodine are tolerated intravenously without side effects, it has yet to be explored what help this may have for many cancer patients or even other diseases.
just thought id ask how everyone else is applying their lugols.
personally, i pour it on to a cotton wool ball and then rub it on like that. alot of lugols seems to be wasted though. also ive run out of cotton wool balls and so havent applied it for a couple of days. this isnt a problem i can easily get some more i just thought id ask about other methods of application that people are using.
Hello!!Can I use this for a large area? I have scars all over my face, but the most of the worst ones are on my temples and forehead.
And I'm on Accutane, can I use iodine even so?
Thanks 🙂
with using it for large areas, i think it might damage the thyroid if you apply too much, so be careful. about the accutane mate, no clue. i know it slows down the healing, so you might not see the best results. maybe wait a few months after finishing accutane and give it a try?
Okay, Thanks for the help!
Lol is that a dog with acne? anyways. Yeah you should probably get off the accutane first, but I am basing that on nothing, as accutane and iodine used together has not been documented. Its just better to first lay of any additional substances when planning on initiating a procedure as vague as this one.
But regarding large areas, Dr. Derry is treating a prety long abdominal scar, and says he has seen no problems nor knows of any. But you know, do it at your own risk.
Lol is that a dog with acne? anyways. Yeah you should probably get off the accutane first, but I am basing that on nothing, as accutane and iodine used together has not been documented. Its just better to first lay of any additional substances when planning on initiating a procedure as vague as this one.But regarding large areas, Dr. Derry is treating a prety long abdominal scar, and says he has seen no problems nor knows of any. But you know, do it at your own risk.
It's a rat!! 😀 Oh well I'll have to wait almost for a year and a half.
Thank you for your answer! 🙂
hey guys look at this link.
http://74.125.153.132/search?q=cache:CJLcL...=clnk&gl=sg
Applying DMSO as a penetrator would amplify the effect of lugols. Needling also helps. Currently, I dont use any penetrator, but I really thought of maybe getting a tattoo gun and needle my face before applying lugols every night to speed things up. Hows the results for you guys?
Eating oral iodine and sardine also helps according to the article