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No I have not had a break out like this before..this was the first time. I dont know excatly what caused this as I stated above..I only guessed as to what I thought may have caused it..
adella gave me some helpfull info to help my breakout and it has helped..if you have a problem with her thats your deal..I dont have a problem with her so I dont feel the same way you do about that..if somebody is nice enough to offer me good advice I take it and I appreciate it..its just that simple.
I am not here to fight and argue or any of that..just help those I can and help my self..and I will continue to work at improving and that wont change...
No I have not had a break out like this before..this was the first time. I dont know excatly what caused this as I stated above..I only guessed as to what I thought may have caused it..
adella gave me some helpfull info to help my breakout and it has helped..if you have a problem with her thats your deal..I dont have a problem with her so I dont feel the same way you do about that..if somebody is nice enough to offer me good advice I take it and I appreciate it..its just that simple.
I am not here to fight and argue or any of that..just help those I can and help my self..and I will continue to work at improving and that wont change...
well do everyone here a favor and don't "guess" or in anyway associate your breakout with "aggressive rolling". The theory is nonbelievable and quite frankly warped.
To say it seems ODD that you all of a sudden mention you have a new breakout but make reference as having one before from rolling comes across as...shall we say... a bit preposterous?
The only people to associate rolling with an out of the ordinary breakout are you and that adella.
Coincidentally you two also have a similar back in forth over at the SkinBio forum. This time she is all over the place as to here progress and and understanding of the products themselves.
Like I said, I look forward to following along in your progress and will be very quick to point out complete and utter nonsense when I read it.
Dermarolling is by far and across the board the most effective treatment for scarring for most people with the least amount of cost and risks associated with it. The second one or two cackling crows try to take away from that fact with contrived bs, is the second I will step in to call them out on it.
BTW, I chose to stick around here for one thing... to help. I get more PMs from people reaching out for answers and direction thaen I care to mention.
In all honesty I would just prefer to move on ( and would have moved on LONG AGO). I have gathered, research and applied all the information I need to make my end result a total success.
Lol! i have to say Just Another 1 that your reply to munsoned was uncalled for.
He was only stating what happened to him and i've also broken out while doing other scar treatments like peels,laser etc.
not picking a fight with you because you have helped me and i think you have some good knowledge to share with people on this forum but to me you came off as a bit to harsh in your post.
No I have not had a break out like this before..this was the first time. I dont know excatly what caused this as I stated above..I only guessed as to what I thought may have caused it..adella gave me some helpfull info to help my breakout and it has helped..if you have a problem with her thats your deal..I dont have a problem with her so I dont feel the same way you do about that..if somebody is nice enough to offer me good advice I take it and I appreciate it..its just that simple.
I am not here to fight and argue or any of that..just help those I can and help my self..and I will continue to work at improving and that wont change...
well do everyone here a favor and don't "guess" or in anyway associate your breakout with "aggressive rolling". The theory is nonbelievable and quite frankly warped.
To say it seems ODD that you all of a sudden mention you have a new breakout but make reference as having one before from rolling comes across as...shall we say... a bit preposterous?
The only people to associate rolling with an out of the ordinary breakout are you and that adella.
Coincidentally you two also have a similar back in forth over at the SkinBio forum. This time she is all over the place as to here progress and and understanding of the products themselves.
Like I said, I look forward to following along in your progress and will be very quick to point out complete and utter nonsense when I read it.
Dermarolling is by far and across the board the most effective treatment for scarring for most people with the least amount of cost and risks associated with it. The second one or two cackling crows try to take away from that fact with contrived bs, is the second I will step in to call them out on it.
BTW, I chose to stick around here for one thing... to help. I get more PMs from people reaching out for answers and direction thaen I care to mention.
In all honesty I would just prefer to move on ( and would have moved on LONG AGO). I have gathered, research and applied all the information I need to make my end result a total success.
both you and adella need to stop acting so pathetically immature and chill out.
why is getting a break out from needling such a preposterous idea? A break out can be caused by a number of things, including messing with your skin in any way. Lots of people seem to break out after having laser, for example.
You acting like youre the know all of needling, and discounting any experience that might make needling look less than perfect, is not helpful to anyone. Besides, munsoned never claimed needling was ineffective because of a breakout.
Anyways, munsoned, i hope you dont get discouraged, and am glad you are posting your progress.
Lol! i have to say Just Another 1 that your reply to munsoned was uncalled for.
He was only stating what happened to him and i've also broken out while doing other scar treatments like peels,laser etc.
not picking a fight with you because you have helped me and i think you have some good knowledge to share with people on this forum but to me you came off as a bit to harsh in your post.
it's well put and well deserved. and the kid knows it!
nuff said!
both you and adella need to stop acting so pathetically immature and chill out.
why is getting a break out from needling such a preposterous idea? A break out can be caused by a number of things, including messing with your skin in any way. Lots of people seem to break out after having laser, for example.
You acting like youre the know all of needling, and discounting any experience that might make needling look less than perfect, is not helpful to anyone. Besides, munsoned never claimed needling was ineffective because of a breakout.
Anyways, munsoned, i hope you dont get discouraged, and am glad you are posting your progress.
Then why don't you pick up the slack loud mouth and maybe I wouldn't need to spend as much time here.
To say I'm acting immature just because I get sucked into nonsense from two scatter brained speds truly pisses me off!
lil peckerwood!
you could maybe get a acne lamp and use it to treat your acne while on your scar treatment
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are you talking about an led??? I have been wanting to get an led ever since lamaar mentioned it..I have just been so tight for cash..I am moving this coming week so things are crazy for me right now..but when I get settled in maybe I can finally get one..do you use one?? Whats your thoughts on it? Thanks for the help man.
Luis figo and megaera..thank you guys for the support..it means a lot to me. 🙂 It was discouraging megaera..But to have people on the forum help lift your spirits back up and get you moving back in the right direction is truly inspiring to say the least.
Hope your guys treatments are going well for you to..
you need the blue wavelengths betwen 405-420nm for the active acne. As for the breakouts, i believe less is more with this. Doing peels, AHA, etc etc between rolls isn't needed..... stick to one or two topicals MAX.
Use bactroban post needling for a few days, test it on a small area of your skin for a few days first, so you know how you respond to it. Then use it post needling to prevent the breakouts.
A stretch of 5 days twice daily application is fine, but like i said make sure the ointment itself doesn't cause a reaction. We all have hurdles, just have to find a way to jump over them!!
you need the blue wavelengths betwen 405-420nm for the active acne. As for the breakouts, i believe less is more with this. Doing peels, AHA, etc etc between rolls isn't needed..... stick to one or two topicals MAX.Use bactroban post needling for a few days, test it on a small area of your skin for a few days first, so you know how you respond to it. Then use it post needling to prevent the breakouts.
A stretch of 5 days twice daily application is fine, but like i said make sure the ointment itself doesn't cause a reaction. We all have hurdles, just have to find a way to jump over them!!
Hey Lamaar...yeah the peels never happened. I stayed away because the breakout just kept me from doing them. and I think I agree that the peels just are not going to fit into this equation. my skin is just to busy healing the whole time after I roll to throw anything else at it. I have kept it to two topicals since the breakout. alittle spot control with a couple products when needed but nothing else. keeping it pretty simple.
I am just about ready to get an led or several if need be..I am amped about getting them! I definitely want the blue included so I can keep the breakouts under control. I think I read you mentioned the led guy is putting together one with everything?? my bad if I am wrong. but if so thats awesome. perfect for us folks right.
I will pick up some bactroban for my next rolling.
I really appreciate you stopping in and offering me some help. And of course I really appreciate your uplifting words man. it makes all the difference for me. You're the man my friend..Keep up your outstanding work. 🙂
Munsoned,
thanks for the posts. I have just started rolling with
a .5 mm, just seeing initially how I respond, and getting
technique down.
I have .5 mm, 1.0 mm, and a 1.5 mm rollers. Does this
sound plausible??..... to roll with a .5 for a while to gain
confidence ( 2 months). Move up to a 1.0 for a couple
of months, then start 1.5 rolling. For some reason I am
petrified with the 1.5.
Also, the .5 REALLY caused me a lot of pain (I've only
rolled once). Was that the case for you?
Do you use a homemade vitamin C ? I am mixing
my vitamin C power (a good one) with water and putting
it on when I roll? Sound OK? I have a ph meter so
I can check the ph. I read a ph of 3 is good. I'm debating
whether to buy a vitamin c serum to use or use the vit c/h2o
mix is ok.
I'm curious. After 4 months, what kind of progress are
you seeing?
Hope its not too many questions and thanks for sharing.
Best wishes
Alittle update..I purchased a blue and red led..so gonna add that in the mix. its about time too. Been waiting along time to add this in. I am going to be using both no less then 4 days a week.
I acually spoke to the led man. He was going to hook me up with a blue/red combo..I found a large virtually brand new led blue/red lamp localy at a price to good to pass up. I spoke with the led man and I am still going to purchase a infra/yellow from him in the next month or two once I have the cash.. He was very understanding and totaly cool. my goal is to eventually get all the led's lamaar suggested. just gotta get em when I can afford them. but I am getting to the place I wanna be which is as close to lamaars program as I can.
So I am going to use the lamp for a bit to help with any breakouts ect.. before my next roll... So lets see what these led's add to the equation. Its exciting.
Munsoned,thanks for the posts. I have just started rolling with
a .5 mm, just seeing initially how I respond, and getting
technique down.
I have .5 mm, 1.0 mm, and a 1.5 mm rollers. Does this
sound plausible??..... to roll with a .5 for a while to gain
confidence ( 2 months). Move up to a 1.0 for a couple
of months, then start 1.5 rolling. For some reason I am
petrified with the 1.5.
Also, the .5 REALLY caused me a lot of pain (I've only
rolled once). Was that the case for you?
Do you use a homemade vitamin C ? I am mixing
my vitamin C power (a good one) with water and putting
it on when I roll? Sound OK? I have a ph meter so
I can check the ph. I read a ph of 3 is good. I'm debating
whether to buy a vitamin c serum to use or use the vit c/h2o
mix is ok.
I'm curious. After 4 months, what kind of progress are
you seeing?
Hope its not too many questions and thanks for sharing.
Best wishes
The only roller I have used is a 1.5mm wide roller and now a 3row roller. no other sizes. I have heard the .5 and 1mm are just as painfull as the 1.5mm. But I have heard this second hand and cant tell you from my own experiences. but they are basicly the same thing so it seems as if you have allready overcome the fear of that 1.5mm roller without even knowing it. rolling causes pain for me to so your not alone. all I can do is give you my perspective on things. yeah, rolling and needling is uncomfortable and causes some pain for sure. But its a cost I'll gladly pay to achieve the goals I have set out to achieve. Thats just my mind state..
I did use home made v-c for the first time I rolled or two..It did its job well. you seem to have a good understanding of the topical c. you just have to pay attention to how your skin responds to any topical you use. only by trying things and keeping your eye on how you respond can you truly get the answers you need.
Its acually been about 6 months I have been rolling. its a very slow process. I have made positive improvements but I still have a very long way to go. this is not something that is happening quickly or easly..But what in life is???? if you wanna learn to play a musical instrument do you learn in 6 months?? you wanna squat 500lbs in the weight room does it happen in 6 months?? you wanna a college degree does it happen in 6 months?? Nope.you just have to keep working and working torwards the goal until the you have reached the finish line. and thats what I will do. good luck.
4th rolling and needling session in the books‚¦.I rolled just over a week ago. I had another really bad breakout as a result of rolling..so I have been dealing with that for the past week best I can. I have been using the blue led for 2 weeks..a week before I rolled and I have been using it up to 2 times a day since my bad break out. Its only been a week since I used the blue led for this breakout but it has had a positive impact I feel‚¦.its been kind of minor but its helped a bit. Just gotta keep at it and see how it controls the breakouts over more use and time.
I knew after my last roll I was prone to breakout from rolling..Its just the way it is. Some things have changed in my routine since the start. My first two sessions I did not breakout. I switched from a wide roller to a 3 row when the breakouts started so that could be a possibility..also my rolling has become more thorough and aggressive and that alone could be the cause. I have rolled twice with each kind of roller now. Both breakouts coming from the times I rolled with the 3 row roller. I threw it out because I throw out my rollers after two treatments. I will purchase I wide one next time and see if that makes a difference..theres other things I can try and see if that makes a difference but I will try one thing at a time so I can truly find the answers..I also did not include bactroban as lamaar has suggested many times. It was bactroban or the led‚„s..so I went with the led‚„s. I will try to purchase some for my next session.
I have been alternating the blue and red led each day. I have a large led. And rather then use it on combo I rather just use each color by themselves every other day to get the full effects of each. I have rolled/needled for 6 months without led‚„s. so I feel I will be able to evaluate how much of a difference they make very well. The next hand full of weeks will tell me a lot..
I also approached this session differently then past sessions. Last session I seemed to have gotten away from needling aggressively. This time I split my session up over 3 days. Legend did this too. I did this so I could try and do a more thorough job. I did a lot of needling first followed by rolling one area of my face. Then come back and do the same thing the next two days.
Results are slow and steady..every time I roll I see alittle improvement. But my deep scars have been stubborn. But that does not mean they are not responding. I just think because they are so deep and damaged you don‚„t see it but its happening.I still have a very long way to go to achieve the results I set out to achieve..I have not seen the kind of improvement yet that gets me very excited or I could pass along to you guys to get you real excited. But I am always working at improving my program and my diet, supplement intake ect..and researching more ways to get more out of my efforts. I am looking forward to seeing how the next couple months play out with the addition of the led‚„s. maybe this will be the time that starts getting me excited???? keep you all posted.
Happy Easter guys and gals. 
Hey munsoned, I feel the same way about my results. Although I have been rolling for a relatively short time, I do see improvement. I think there is more improvement than we think there is because it is so slow, it is hard for us to notice. My deeper scars are being stubborn as well, but we must remember that it IS working. I have noticed a great improvement in overall skin tone and elasticity, as well as smaller pores.
I came across a site that really encourages me and shows great time-lapsed results from one rolling session. I know these scars are not as bad as yours or mine, but they are scars nonetheless and did respond great. Roll over the picture of the face to see the results.
http://www.spmuc.com.au/medical-treatments...ling-sydney.php
Best of luck in your recovery!
hey, thanks for the update munsoned
By sticking to the basics with Vit A and C serums, and taking C internally, Im doing well even just after two rolls
I actually look forward to my next rolls (one will be coming shortly)...the 2 serums also keep any acne at bay, and reduce the longevity of hyperpigmentation by alot
They also smooth the overall texture of the skin, and make the skin more supple...two big pluses in my book
Keep at it, and use the LEDs whenever you can!
Hey munsoned, I feel the same way about my results. Although I have been rolling for a relatively short time, I do see improvement. I think there is more improvement than we think there is because it is so slow, it is hard for us to notice. My deeper scars are being stubborn as well, but we must remember that it IS working. I have noticed a great improvement in overall skin tone and elasticity, as well as smaller pores.I came across a site that really encourages me and shows great time-lapsed results from one rolling session. I know these scars are not as bad as yours or mine, but they are scars nonetheless and did respond great. Roll over the picture of the face to see the results.
http://www.spmuc.com.au/medical-treatments...ling-sydney.php
Best of luck in your recovery!
Saleena, thanks for the pic and link!! thats great results..and realistic/honest also which is good.. I also did see positive improvements right away when i started rolling. that was a big factor in letting me know I was on the right path. yeah, the deep scars are stubborn for sure!! I needled real good this time and followed up with a real good rolling session..and of course add the led's in from here on out..so lets see what these next 2 months bring us all. thanks for the support by the way and keep up your great work to..you are doing awesome!! 😉
I remember after I received injections my face looked great because of the swelling.Have you found that the swelling that occurs for the 1-2 days afterward helps the appearance until it subsides?
Crispy, the rolling I do is aggressive so the swelling makes me look worse. no my skin looks better after all the swelling is completely gone if you ask me.
hey, thanks for the update munsonedBy sticking to the basics with Vit A and C serums, and taking C internally, Im doing well even just after two rolls
I actually look forward to my next rolls (one will be coming shortly)...the 2 serums also keep any acne at bay, and reduce the longevity of hyperpigmentation by alot
They also smooth the overall texture of the skin, and make the skin more supple...two big pluses in my book
Keep at it, and use the LEDs whenever you can!
dont mention it crzyakta :)..well 2 rolls is well on your way so i am not suprised one bit that you are seeing positive changes...I look forward to rolling to because its one step closer!! but I also really enjoy the down time and healing to get the results and kind of just forget about it for a while. sounds like your topicals are working perfectly for you..thats awesome bro!! I was thinking of giving them a shot a couple months back but did not. I do use a solid C serum along with the cp's. but alternate them of course. but your products are just one more that are being put to the test and can hopefully help benefit you and many others. maybe even me at some point. 😎
I am using the led's religiously. alternating the blue and red every other day. you can count on me never missing a single session!! Thanks for dropping in man and have a great 3rd rolling/needling session. 🙂