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Posted : 01/25/2009 3:51 pm

anymore news on this?

 

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FDA allows first test of human stem cell therapy

"The U.S. Food and Drug Administration has cleared the way for the first trial to see if human embryonic stem cells can treat people safely"

http://www.newsdaily.com/stories/tre50m2u9-us-stemcells/

 

As have said in this news: http://www.kpbs.org/news/local?id=13654

"Stem cells come from many different sources in the body, and they can come from adults. But Snyder says embryonic cells are still the gold standard. He says no other stem cells are as flexible or malleable."

 

If the scar repair Vs regeneration mechanisms of body tissues like nervous tissue are all the same, as discovered by the stanford-scar-war team, we will stand to benefit from research into spinal cord injuries, joint damage due to rheumatoid arthritis, myelin sheath destruction due to multiple sclerosis, occular scarring, or other severe ailments.

 

 

the ball is rolling at least with stem cells, so basically any gains in any type of stem cell treatment is going to help scar revision.

thanks for the reply. very interesting its happening after bush. any thought on this?

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Posted : 01/25/2009 6:18 pm

anymore news on this?

 

Yes

FDA allows first test of human stem cell therapy

"The U.S. Food and Drug Administration has cleared the way for the first trial to see if human embryonic stem cells can treat people safely"

http://www.newsdaily.com/stories/tre50m2u9-us-stemcells/

 

As have said in this news: http://www.kpbs.org/news/local?id=13654

"Stem cells come from many different sources in the body, and they can come from adults. But Snyder says embryonic cells are still the gold standard. He says no other stem cells are as flexible or malleable."

 

If the scar repair Vs regeneration mechanisms of body tissues like nervous tissue are all the same, as discovered by the stanford-scar-war team, we will stand to benefit from research into spinal cord injuries, joint damage due to rheumatoid arthritis, myelin sheath destruction due to multiple sclerosis, occular scarring, or other severe ailments.

 

 

the ball is rolling at least with stem cells, so basically any gains in any type of stem cell treatment is going to help scar revision.

thanks for the reply. very interesting its happening after bush. any thought on this?

 

 

 

Well contrary to popular belief Bush didn't ban stem cell research. He banned federal funding for stem cell research. I doubt with this current economic crisis not much if any federal dollars will be thrown at this issue anyway. This technology would be very valuable so i'd look for the developments to occur in the private sector.

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Posted : 01/25/2009 8:21 pm

I wonder what stem cell research is going to do to the economy if there is a big break though that does cure a illness or a scar. you guys think this will stimulate the economy and make more jobs? it could be like the computer boom that happen in the 80s and 90s creating billionaires like bill gates in Microsoft. :dance:

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Posted : 01/25/2009 8:48 pm

I wonder what stem cell research is going to do to the economy if there is a big break though that does cure a illness or a scar. you guys think this will stimulate the economy and make more jobs? it could be like the computer boom that happen in the 80s and 90s creating billionaires like bill gates in Microsoft. :dance:

Absolutely.

President Obama should regard funding on embryonic stem cells and regenerative medicine as part of his economic stimulus plan and as a means to cut down health care costs.

 

With ways to regenerative our skin or other organs, we will no longer lead a diminished life, no longer have to avoid meeting other people- this increase our economy's productivity as a whole.

 

What's more, the society will no longer need to bear the costs of managing many chronic diseases.

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Posted : 01/25/2009 9:40 pm

I wonder what stem cell research is going to do to the economy if there is a big break though that does cure a illness or a scar. you guys think this will stimulate the economy and make more jobs? it could be like the computer boom that happen in the 80s and 90s creating billionaires like bill gates in Microsoft. :dance:

Absolutely.

President Obama should regard funding on embryonic stem cells and regenerative medicine as part of his economic stimulus plan and as a means to cut down health care costs.

 

With ways to regenerative our skin or other organs, we will no longer lead a diminished life, no longer have to avoid meeting other people- this increase our economy's productivity as a whole.

 

What's more, the society will no longer need to bear the costs of managing many chronic diseases.

 

 

I really thought hard during this recession about what kind of new industry's will create more jobs and also be a basic need for every american in the USA. I serious couldn't think of one till this idea with stem cells. Energy is a another one since we are some day going to run out of oil and need alternative fuel sources.

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Posted : 01/28/2009 5:57 pm

Just got word from Acell that within 3 - 6 months they are planning on releasing an ECM scaffold to be used by plastic surgeons that will reabsorb over a longer period of time than what is available now and can be sutured into the wound so that weekly replacements will not be necessary.

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Posted : 01/28/2009 8:01 pm

Just got word from Acell that within 3 - 6 months they are planning on releasing an ECM scaffold to be used by plastic surgeons that will reabsorb over a longer period of time than what is available now and can be sutured into the wound so that weekly replacements will not be necessary.

 

All I want on my future wounds is the simple ecm that is not denatured that allows all my tissues to crawl up, so I can get the scar free healing.

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Posted : 01/28/2009 9:13 pm

I wonder what stem cell research is going to do to the economy if there is a big break though that does cure a illness or a scar. you guys think this will stimulate the economy and make more jobs? it could be like the computer boom that happen in the 80s and 90s creating billionaires like bill gates in Microsoft. :dance:

Absolutely.

President Obama should regard funding on embryonic stem cells and regenerative medicine as part of his economic stimulus plan and as a means to cut down health care costs.

 

With ways to regenerative our skin or other organs, we will no longer lead a diminished life, no longer have to avoid meeting other people- this increase our economy's productivity as a whole.

 

What's more, the society will no longer need to bear the costs of managing many chronic diseases.

 

 

I really thought hard during this recession about what kind of new industry's will create more jobs and also be a basic need for every american in the USA. I serious couldn't think of one till this idea with stem cells. Energy is a another one since we are some day going to run out of oil and need alternative fuel sources.

 

 

 

Just got word from Acell that within 3 - 6 months they are planning on releasing an ECM scaffold to be used by plastic surgeons that will reabsorb over a longer period of time than what is available now and can be sutured into the wound so that weekly replacements will not be necessary.

 

 

Yeah but then all those health care workers, insurance workers, drug company workers, and researchers would see dramatic job loss! Everything seems to be balanced. Create jobs somewhere, take away from somewhere else!

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Posted : 01/28/2009 9:55 pm

a cure would really make people spend the money, if i could cure my scar i would easy spend 20,000 to 30,000 for it. so with big business creates big pay checks.

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Posted : 01/29/2009 12:09 am

i would seriously pay a very very large amount of money for a 100% cure...even if I had to take out a loan. having my uninjured face back would give me an entire new perspective on my life. i think researchers realize this...but the human body is complex and researchers haven't come up with a 100% solution yet...unfortunately. :( but think about it....people get scars every single day...whether it be from an accident, burn, acne, or surgery. i think i can speak for everyone, no matter how mild or massive the scarring, no one likes scars and almost everyone would prefer them gone. with a cure, people would be constantly utilizing it to remove these unwanted marks. derms would make a fortune.

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Posted : 01/29/2009 12:15 am

just knowing that it could be fix and not spending the money for the treatment would make scar suffers a lot more happy. if there was a cure for my scar, in my mind it would turn into a mild problem in my life.

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Posted : 01/29/2009 5:05 pm

New Dr. Jones' Acell photos are up - 12 weeks post-op: http://www.drrobertjones.com/acell.html

 

Although a scar clearly formed, the scaffold was never changed nor was acell powder reapplied. As well, the wound was not kept moist and bandaged the entire time. The new scaffold to be released in Q3 2009 will be thicker so that no replacement scaffolds will be necessary. So wounds that require sutures, like most cosmetic surgeries, can have the scaffold stitched right into the wound for tissue regeneration and ultimately virtual scarless healing.

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Posted : 01/29/2009 5:08 pm

New Dr. Jones' Acell photos are up - 12 weeks post-op: http://www.drrobertjones.com/acell.html

 

Although a scar clearly formed, the scaffold was never changed nor was acell powder reapplied. As well, the wound was not kept moist and bandaged the entire time. The new scaffold to be released in Q3 2009 will be thicker so that no replacement scaffolds will be necessary. So wounds that require sutures, like most cosmetic surgeries, can have the scaffold stitched right into the wound for tissue regeneration and ultimately virtual scarless healing.

i dont see new photos

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Posted : 01/29/2009 8:23 pm

I wonder what stem cell research is going to do to the economy if there is a big break though that does cure a illness or a scar. you guys think this will stimulate the economy and make more jobs? it could be like the computer boom that happen in the 80s and 90s creating billionaires like bill gates in Microsoft. :dance:

Absolutely.

President Obama should regard funding on embryonic stem cells and regenerative medicine as part of his economic stimulus plan and as a means to cut down health care costs.

 

With ways to regenerative our skin or other organs, we will no longer lead a diminished life, no longer have to avoid meeting other people- this increase our economy's productivity as a whole.

 

What's more, the society will no longer need to bear the costs of managing many chronic diseases.

 

 

I really thought hard during this recession about what kind of new industry's will create more jobs and also be a basic need for every american in the USA. I serious couldn't think of one till this idea with stem cells. Energy is a another one since we are some day going to run out of oil and need alternative fuel sources.

 

 

 

Just got word from Acell that within 3 - 6 months they are planning on releasing an ECM scaffold to be used by plastic surgeons that will reabsorb over a longer period of time than what is available now and can be sutured into the wound so that weekly replacements will not be necessary.

 

 

Yeah but then all those health care workers, insurance workers, drug company workers, and researchers would see dramatic job loss! Everything seems to be balanced. Create jobs somewhere, take away from somewhere else!

 

 

If you look back at history, technological innovation is the only source of long-term economic growth and the sole determinant of improvement of our standard of living in the long run. Older products were driven out of market. For instance, in the early 20th century, the automobile displaced the horse-drawn carriage by meeting consumer demand for personal transportation in a way that was qualitatively better, and in the late 20th century, the advent of Internet threatened the survival of traditional media like TVs and newspapers. Those old guys had to adjust, but the society as a whole benefited. In the case of stem cells therapy, people from other jobs will have to adjust in the long run, and surely they will because they are professionals and are knowledgeable. In introducing stem cells technology, our live will be much better and our productivity will increase. More industries will be created, our standard of living will rise dramatically and the cost of health care will go down.

 

From another perspective, even if the US government don't invest in embryonic stem cells technology, other governments do. Granted, their pace of development will be more slowly, but they will succeed in the end. At that time, much more American jobs will be lost. Those who benefit will be countries like the UK and Singapore, or even Korea.

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Posted : 01/29/2009 9:08 pm

New Dr. Jones' Acell photos are up - 12 weeks post-op: http://www.drrobertjones.com/acell.html

 

Although a scar clearly formed, the scaffold was never changed nor was acell powder reapplied. As well, the wound was not kept moist and bandaged the entire time. The new scaffold to be released in Q3 2009 will be thicker so that no replacement scaffolds will be necessary. So wounds that require sutures, like most cosmetic surgeries, can have the scaffold stitched right into the wound for tissue regeneration and ultimately virtual scarless healing.

i dont see new photos

 

 

doctor jones explicitly states that he followed instructions given by the acell rep. clearly a scar has formed, and based on my own experience with scars, i think only the pigmentation will improve from here on out.

 

not to knock mr. manning personally, but i think the claims he made of other patients seeing zero scar formation is a mistruth that is motivated by sales rather than scientific evidence. at the least, there is no documentation of other patients with good results. for me it is all hype until i see evidence otherwise.

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Posted : 01/29/2009 9:26 pm

New Dr. Jones' Acell photos are up - 12 weeks post-op: http://www.drrobertjones.com/acell.html

 

Although a scar clearly formed, the scaffold was never changed nor was acell powder reapplied. As well, the wound was not kept moist and bandaged the entire time. The new scaffold to be released in Q3 2009 will be thicker so that no replacement scaffolds will be necessary. So wounds that require sutures, like most cosmetic surgeries, can have the scaffold stitched right into the wound for tissue regeneration and ultimately virtual scarless healing.

i dont see new photos

 

 

doctor jones explicitly states that he followed instructions given by the acell rep. clearly a scar has formed, and based on my own experience with scars, i think only the pigmentation will improve from here on out.

 

not to knock mr. manning personally, but i think the claims he made of other patients seeing zero scar formation is a mistruth that is motivated by sales rather than scientific evidence. at the least, there is no documentation of other patients with good results. for me it is all hype until i see evidence otherwise.

 

 

it is new for human use. Its too early to tell yet.

 

New Dr. Jones' Acell photos are up - 12 weeks post-op: http://www.drrobertjones.com/acell.html

 

Although a scar clearly formed, the scaffold was never changed nor was acell powder reapplied. As well, the wound was not kept moist and bandaged the entire time. The new scaffold to be released in Q3 2009 will be thicker so that no replacement scaffolds will be necessary. So wounds that require sutures, like most cosmetic surgeries, can have the scaffold stitched right into the wound for tissue regeneration and ultimately virtual scarless healing.

i dont see new photos

 

 

doctor jones explicitly states that he followed instructions given by the acell rep. clearly a scar has formed, and based on my own experience with scars, i think only the pigmentation will improve from here on out.

 

not to knock mr. manning personally, but i think the claims he made of other patients seeing zero scar formation is a mistruth that is motivated by sales rather than scientific evidence. at the least, there is no documentation of other patients with good results. for me it is all hype until i see evidence otherwise.

 

another thing, the scar in my opinion was to dry, as you can see it got hard as a rock. It was a bloody rock hard scab.

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Posted : 01/30/2009 8:22 am

New Dr. Jones' Acell photos are up - 12 weeks post-op: http://www.drrobertjones.com/acell.html

 

Although a scar clearly formed, the scaffold was never changed nor was acell powder reapplied. As well, the wound was not kept moist and bandaged the entire time. The new scaffold to be released in Q3 2009 will be thicker so that no replacement scaffolds will be necessary. So wounds that require sutures, like most cosmetic surgeries, can have the scaffold stitched right into the wound for tissue regeneration and ultimately virtual scarless healing.

i dont see new photos

 

 

doctor jones explicitly states that he followed instructions given by the acell rep. clearly a scar has formed, and based on my own experience with scars, i think only the pigmentation will improve from here on out.

 

not to knock mr. manning personally, but i think the claims he made of other patients seeing zero scar formation is a mistruth that is motivated by sales rather than scientific evidence. at the least, there is no documentation of other patients with good results. for me it is all hype until i see evidence otherwise.

 

 

so we have to wait for years again after all the hype? My life has permaturely ended.

 

 

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Posted : 01/30/2009 11:43 am

New Dr. Jones' Acell photos are up - 12 weeks post-op: http://www.drrobertjones.com/acell.html

 

Although a scar clearly formed, the scaffold was never changed nor was acell powder reapplied. As well, the wound was not kept moist and bandaged the entire time. The new scaffold to be released in Q3 2009 will be thicker so that no replacement scaffolds will be necessary. So wounds that require sutures, like most cosmetic surgeries, can have the scaffold stitched right into the wound for tissue regeneration and ultimately virtual scarless healing.

 

Franklins have you ever seen a remodelling process before?

 

There is clearly no scar seen there yet. As the colour of the wound is stopping us from seeing the tissue underneath. This could mean it is remodelling or it is scarring and creating collagen on top of the ECM.

 

Now on this one though I expect scarring because of the scab.

 

And if there had been no scab I would be reassured of regeneration to the local tissue state like we expect.

 

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Posted : 01/30/2009 5:03 pm

So Dr Jones scar treatment failed, where do we go from here? What can we expect in the future?

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Posted : 01/31/2009 1:50 pm

Here are photos that were sent to me from Acell: Full_Thickness_Repair_Hand_100108.pdf

 

The photos shows a wound caused by melanoma and how it was repaired using acell.

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Posted : 01/31/2009 3:25 pm

Here are photos that were sent to me from Acell: Full_Thickness_Repair_Hand_100108.pdf

 

The photos shows a wound caused by melanoma and how it was repaired using acell.

 

That is site specific.

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Posted : 01/31/2009 11:39 pm

why in the last picture the ladie turns her hand?

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Posted : 02/01/2009 9:04 am

This procedure was done by Dr. Prevel. He has been using acell since July 2007 and has treated over 250 patients for wounds / scars. But the scars / wounds have to be bad enough for him to be willing to use acell.

 

Regarding the photo, I don't believe that she turned her arm. It looks like all the photos are taken from the same angle. If the last photo was taken in september / October 2008 then at this point she would be 5 - 6 months post op. I would be curious to see a current photo.

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Posted : 02/01/2009 3:13 pm

This procedure was done by Dr. Prevel. He has been using acell since July 2007 and has treated over 250 patients for wounds / scars. But the scars / wounds have to be bad enough for him to be willing to use acell.

 

Regarding the photo, I don't believe that she turned her arm. It looks like all the photos are taken from the same angle. If the last photo was taken in september / October 2008 then at this point she would be 5 - 6 months post op. I would be curious to see a current photo.

 

Bad enough? Why does it have to be bad enough if technically acell can remove all scars it it is truly scarless healing? Can I be a candidate if I have scars on the face?

 

Seriously im really getting sick of life. Having waited 2 years for the cure and being told ""its near...its near" but never " its here...". Dr robert jones' patient seemed like he scarred. Honestly, im not expecting it to grow hair back. If he is going to test on another patient it will take several months again. It wouldnt be long before it is half a year removed from 2009.

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Posted : 02/01/2009 5:21 pm

BRD,

 

Do you think that LED light can effectively penetrate through saline soaked gauze? If not, what would be a practical alternate method to keep an ECM implanted wound moist?

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