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34 minutes ago, Scarcure said:
Polluting the boards with links I see. Forgot your meds again? Tell me something, do you have a job?
3 hours ago, Skin Pessimist said:I'm sure it will fall to some extent. The problem is that it could be many years after market release. Even then, the price will still be high
Pretty much. If the results are as good as we hope them to be (for stretch marks and acne scars, or for one of the two at least), expect to be spending thousands of dollars on this.
4 hours ago, Skin Pessimist said:I'm sure it will fall to some extent. The problem is that it could be many years after market release. Even then, the price will still be high
We should expect a higher price thanother procedures at least (lasers - up to several thousand).
2 minutes ago, gantz said:We should expect a higher price thanother procedures at least (lasers - up to several thousand).
lasers ain't that expensive anymore overall really. Something around 400-500 euros for striae distensae now. But honestly it doesn't do anything so it's not worth it anyways
3 minutes ago, lehran said:lasers ain't that expensive anymore overall really. Something around 400-500 euros for striae distensae now. But honestly it doesn't do anything so it's not worth it anyways
Unfortunately, lasers don't do much. They do more harm than good. The more acceptable acne scar treatments are now subcision, fillers and TCA peel. Lasers are still used on thick hypertrophic scarring and cryotherapy for keloids.
8 minutes ago, Scarcure said:
Keep reporting me. Have fun.Stop polluting the board with links.
1 minute ago, Scarlessfuture said:Unfortunately, lasers don't do much. They do more harm than good. The more acceptable acne scar treatments are now subcision, fillers and TCA peel. Lasers are still used on thick hypertrophic scarring and cryotherapy for keloids.
Yeaaah pretty much, same for fractional radiofraquency honestly. Been there, had to wait 6-8 months for the marks left afterwards, didn't do anything at all.
@gantz doesn't really do anything either, photoshopped pictures yada yada. Got a lot of witnesses who told me they regret spending their money on this.
1 hour ago, lehran said:Yeaaah pretty much, same for fractional radiofraquency honestly. Been there, had to wait 6-8 months for the marks left afterwards, didn't do anything at all.
@gantz doesn't really do anything either, photoshopped pictures yada yada. Got a lot of witnesses who told me they regret spending their money on this.
T_T
8 hours ago, lehran said:lasers ain't that expensive anymore overall really. Something around 400-500 euros for striae distensae now. But honestly it doesn't do anything so it's not worth it anyways
For ace scars They're still relatively expensive in the United States -- depending on where you live.
8 hours ago, gantz said:We should expect a higher price thanother procedures at least (lasers - up to several thousand).
Wouldn't be surprised by around $10,000 to treat multiple rolling scars. Maybe I'll be pleasantly surprised though
1 hour ago, Skin Pessimist said:For ace scars They're still relatively expensive in the United States -- depending on where you live.
Wouldn't be surprised by around $10,000 to treat multiple rolling scars. Maybe I'll be pleasantly surprised though
Would depend on results , people would Be willing to Pay a Lot if it brings 80-90 % of permanent improvement , otherwise not
6 hours ago, Skin Pessimist said:For ace scars They're still relatively expensive in the United States -- depending on where you live.
Wouldn't be surprised by around $10,000 to treat multiple rolling scars. Maybe I'll be pleasantly surprised though
Really depends on the procedure imo: current stretch marks treatments cost hundreds of dollars on average (for example, one session of carboxytherapy + fractional RF = 200 dollars, and usually you do 5 of them...although it doesn't do anything for striae xD), and millions of people still go through it every year, hoping for improvement.
10 000 dollars as a start is not impossible, but it would bring with it a very niche clientele, which is probably not the goal of abbvie (which bought allergan)
14 minutes ago, lehran said:Really depends on the procedure imo: current stretch marks treatments cost hundreds of dollars on average (for example, one session of carboxytherapy + fractional RF = 200 dollars, and usually you do 5 of them...although it doesn't do anything for striae xD), and millions of people still go through it every year, hoping for improvement.
10 000 dollars as a start is not impossible, but it would bring with it a very niche clientele, which is probably not the goal of abbvie (which bought allergan)
Could Elastagen work on atropic scarring caused by laser ? like what i described in my case , that's of course things go as planned and the papers at the end of this year turn up great for 80 to 90 percent results ?
1 minute ago, Scarcure said:Could Elastagen work on atropic scarring caused by laser ? like what i described in my case , that's of course things go as planned and the papers at the end of this year turn up great for 80 to 90 percent results ?
Why don't you simply ask Anthony Weiss or Rob Daniels yourself honestly? You'll get a more detailed answer, probably. People left their mail addresses in this convo recently
Just now, lehran said:Why don't you simply ask Anthony Weiss or Rob Daniels yourself honestly? People left their mail addresses in this convo recently
... because that's the case with this product right ? it is for atropthic scarring and not so much for hypotrocic ( sic ) scarring .... because acne scarring by our definition is mostly indented lesions.
Yeah but in your case it comes from a specific accident, as you mentioned yourself. Yes, it's supposed to work on atrophic scars as well, eventually, but as far as the timeline goes outside of stretch marks and acne scars (which is obviously their focus since we're getting drafts this year) I'm not sure what it's going to be like.
That's kinda why I think you should ask them about your case: they'll have an answer to your specific problem and if it's good this could be a real relief for you.
NB: I'm not saying this to taunt you, it's just my advice based on our conversations so far, but try to avoid showing insecurity if you write them a mail, that tends to deter people from answering.
1 minute ago, lehran said:Yeah but in your case it comes from a specific accident, as you mentioned yourself. Yes, it's supposed to work on atrophic scars as well, eventually, but as far as the timeline goes outside of stretch marks and acne scars (which is obviously their focus since we're getting drafts this year) I'm not sure what it's going to be like.
That's kinda why I think you should ask them about your case: they'll have an answer to your specific problem and if it's good this could be a real relief for you.
NB: I'm not saying this to taunt you, it's just my advice based on our conversations so far, but try to avoid showing insecurity if you write them a mail, that tends to deter people from answering.
I appreciate your honesty .... thanks ... but i believe i will also be a candidate , thanks all the same.
1 hour ago, lehran said:Really depends on the procedure imo: current stretch marks treatments cost hundreds of dollars on average (for example, one session of carboxytherapy + fractional RF = 200 dollars, and usually you do 5 of them...although it doesn't do anything for striae xD), and millions of people still go through it every year, hoping for improvement.
10 000 dollars as a start is not impossible, but it would bring with it a very niche clientele, which is probably not the goal of abbvie (which bought allergan)
Agree. Expensive to start with then expect a price drop. Other Allergan products such as Botox and Juvuderm were high ticket but now they are marketed at young women. Tropoelastin has appeal for the anti-ageing market too so it'll be priced to go wide hopefully. Factors that might make it more expensive in relation to scars is if people need subcision first to create a pocket.
I found how they're applying tropoelastin to skin lesions btw (with the first iteration of their product (me-tro) which they use to seal wounds), It's interesting:
Kinda confirms what I mentioned about depression volume and "filling the gaps".
NB: I know, her voice is annoying xD
9 minutes ago, lehran said:I found how they're applying tropoelastin to skin lesions btw (with the first iteration of their product (me-tro) which they use to seal wounds), It's interesting:
Kinda confirms what I mentioned about depression volume and "filling the gaps".
NB: I know, her voice is annoying xD
What's the product called that is supposedly to give a 80 to 90 percent result of filling the scar tissue ? thanks
11 minutes ago, Scarcure said:What's the product called that is supposedly to give a 80 to 90 percent result of filling the scar tissue ? thanks
It's not out yet, but it's the exact same basis: a tropelastin-based treatment. It doesn't have a name or anything since it's still in abbvie's pipeline.