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1 hour ago, Anish004 said:i already said sorry for that ... but i need emergency help and if u dont wanna help ignore my msg
Anish dont go to the extreme soloution. Accurate is no joke and yes people have developed keloid scars in darkerskin tones. I remember your Indian? So please dont. Your a higher risk ethnicity.It could be anything. Is your skin dry in that area? Look irritated? Could you just try some salicylic acid BUT TIP water in down a bit so it doesnt sting. If it stings its too strong.
10 minutes ago, DinkumFridge said:Do you think fs2 can cure atrophic scars? It is good for hypertrophic scars. However, it does not seem to be good for atrophic scars. What do you think?
If the scar is cut out then it's cut out, atrophic or hypertrophic
If there is fat loss, and you don't want to excise it, there is nothing than can fill it back with fat
28 minutes ago, Yeeeeaaaaaaahhhhhhhh said:Everyone keeps talking about fs2 but where does it say it can completely eliminate scars? I want to believe it does but i also want to be realistic
it cant prevent scar ..it reduces it
hydrogel have been proven to completely prevent atleast in rats and pigs but..they are too slow
3 hours ago, Anish004 said:it cant prevent scar ..it reduces it
hydrogel have been proven to completely prevent atleast in rats and pigs but..they are too slow
Actually, it prevents scars on fresh wounds, it reduces existing scars as per its makers. It is similar to hydrogels. It won't do anything for atrophic scars, there is fat loss there. We have to wait for the research at UCI to be completed.
4 hours ago, surgical scar said:Anish is officially a trolling child. What's the point of feeding these trolls. Go do whatever you want or keep crying in private chats and leave us alone
what i have trolled ???
man fs2 isnt the solution it cant prevent scar ..dont go on their words they are playing
u will excise ur scar and apply fs2 to prevent scar ???what if dont heal scarlessly and reduced scar formation taked place
its necessary to bring complete regenration before we start cutting out our scar
6 hours ago, Anish004 said:what i have trolled ???
man fs2 isnt the solution it cant prevent scar ..dont go on their words they are playing
u will excise ur scar and apply fs2 to prevent scar ???what if dont heal scarlessly and reduced scar formation taked place
its necessary to bring complete regenration before we start cutting out our scar
Everybody is playing. Your skin already regenerates when it is injured, a scar is natural and you need them for your body to heal. However, scars are ugly to see. At least, some people are trying to unlock nature's way of working. It will take some time before they can close wounds without scars. Also, they are working on acne vaccines. One day, scars and acne will no longer plague millions but we are not there yet and won't be for many many years. Enjoy what you have because life is short and nobody cares about some unsightly skin imperfections.
6 hours ago, Anish004 said:what if dont heal scarlessly and reduced scar formation taked place
Oh the horror! Who would want to risk getting stuck with reduced scar!? Instead we want a cell vomit of hardened SkinTE with margins and unevenness, or pay several 1000s for numerous invasive sessions of micro-coring improvement, instead of a topical tube of possibly less than $100
6 hours ago, Anish004 said:..dont go on their words they are playing
Yeah Im gonna take your brilliant words for it than to wait for trial pictures
Its not like youve ever been right and stable or had anything intellectual to contribute troll
these scientists don't play word games you know. in that level of writing such as published literature, words matter and are used on purpose.
skint said fully regenerated, functional, full thickness skin with appendages. they met all those terms. its just not what any of us expected it would look like. they didn't lie, its just not for us. if you were a burn patient you would think its fantastic.
birchbiomed have said prevents scarring in fresh wounds. so that is what it does. what that actually looks like though we don't know yet. they haven't said anything about appendages etc but personally I don't think it matters as to cosmetic outcome. its more about texture, pliability, elasticity and colour if we want it to pretty much look like skin and blend in to surrounding skin.
I did read somewhere that if the scar just kept breaking down like it does in the maturation phase, for longer it would end up pretty normal. but this doesn't happen, fs2 is claiming it can get the body to do exactly this, breaking down existing scars.
it might not be the Mecca of holy grails, but if it works its a pretty massive leap which any reasonable person should find good enough at the moment.
15 minutes ago, nikki_gargin said:these scientists don't play word games you know. in that level of writing such as published literature, words matter and are used on purpose.
skint said fully regenerated, functional, full thickness skin with appendages. they met all those terms. its just not what any of us expected it would look like. they didn't lie, its just not for us. if you were a burn patient you would think its fantastic.
birchbiomed have said prevents scarring in fresh wounds. so that is what it does. what that actually looks like though we don't know yet. they haven't said anything about appendages etc but personally I don't think it matters as to cosmetic outcome. its more about texture, pliability, elasticity and colour if we want it to pretty much look like skin and blend in to surrounding skin.
I did read somewhere that if the scar just kept breaking down like it does in the maturation phase, for longer it would end up pretty normal. but this doesn't happen, fs2 is claiming it can get the body to do exactly this, breaking down existing scars.
it might not be the Mecca of holy grails, but if it works its a pretty massive leap which any reasonable person should find good enough at the moment.
when the product itself and the its trials pics are expected to release ??
5 hours ago, nikki_gargin said:these scientists don't play word games you know. in that level of writing such as published literature, words matter and are used on purpose.
skint said fully regenerated, functional, full thickness skin with appendages. they met all those terms. its just not what any of us expected it would look like. they didn't lie, its just not for us. if you were a burn patient you would think its fantastic.
birchbiomed have said prevents scarring in fresh wounds. so that is what it does. what that actually looks like though we don't know yet. they haven't said anything about appendages etc but personally I don't think it matters as to cosmetic outcome. its more about texture, pliability, elasticity and colour if we want it to pretty much look like skin and blend in to surrounding skin.
I did read somewhere that if the scar just kept breaking down like it does in the maturation phase, for longer it would end up pretty normal. but this doesn't happen, fs2 is claiming it can get the body to do exactly this, breaking down existing scars.
it might not be the Mecca of holy grails, but if it works its a pretty massive leap which any reasonable person should find good enough at the moment.
Does the removal of the existing scar mean that the skin is regenerated?
5 hours ago, DinkumFridge said:Does the removal of the existing scar mean that the skin is regenerated?
You need to comprehend that skin is constantly regenerated. When you injure your skin, your body will regenerate to heal.Scar tissue is just an overproduction of collagen, this will get you those thick scars or hypertrophic scars/keloid scars. Not enough collagen results in sunken depressions of your skin, the fat underneath is not regenerated. The problem with scar tissue is that the body cannot realign it into the basket wave pattern of ormal skin, so the scar remains for a lifetime. It's a fast repair. Finding a way to realign the overproduced or sunken collagen into normal looking skin is the challenge here. FS2 contains kynurenine acid. Back in the 90s, many researchers had found that applying this natural by product on scar tissue had the benefits of breaking down thick bundles of collagen. Researchers at UBC continued and are conductung trials currently to test out its effectiveness. FS2 flattens hypertrophic scars but most likely the hypopigmentation remains. Instead of having a thick scar, you end up with a flat pale mark. They claim it prevents scar tissue if applied on fresh wounds, we need to wait and see what it truly does but it looks promising nonetheless.
2 hours ago, MyBeautifulScars said:You need to comprehend that skin is constantly regenerated. When you injure your skin, your body will regenerate to heal.Scar tissue is just an overproduction of collagen, this will get you those thick scars or hypertrophic scars/keloid scars. Not enough collagen results in sunken depressions of your skin, the fat underneath is not regenerated. The problem with scar tissue is that the body cannot realign it into the basket wave pattern of ormal skin, so the scar remains for a lifetime. It's a fast repair. Finding a way to realign the overproduced or sunken collagen into normal looking skin is the challenge here. FS2 contains kynurenine acid. Back in the 90s, many researchers had found that applying this natural by product on scar tissue had the benefits of breaking down thick bundles of collagen. Researchers at UBC continued and are conductung trials currently to test out its effectiveness. FS2 flattens hypertrophic scars but most likely the hypopigmentation remains. Instead of having a thick scar, you end up with a flat pale mark. They claim it prevents scar tissue if applied on fresh wounds, we need to wait and see what it truly does but it looks promising nonetheless.
yeah all all of this. there isn't going to be a magic solution, just something to work with the healing process into a more normal skinoutcome. its still going to need patience and work at the end of the day. But for those of us who are quite realistic, it is indeed looking promising. scar tissue also sticks to underlying tissue when healing, fs2 if it prevents scarring should take care of this as well in theory.
On 10/28/2018 at 12:01 PM, nikki_gargin said:On 10/27/2018 at 9:05 PM, jobslhw said:In vivo reprogramming of wound-resident cells generates skin epithelial tissue
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-018-0477-4
This looks like Skinte technology but without the platform. A epithelial substitute?
This is a technique that directly heals the wound completely.This is not a substitute.In vivo reprogramming of wound-resident cells generates skin epithelial tissue
4 minutes ago, Anish004 said:this heals epidermis scarfreely ???
for ur info epidermis never scars .dermis and hypodermis scars
This technique regenerates the upper part of the deep fascia (including the dermis)
10 minutes ago, Anish004 said:this heals epidermis scarfreely ???
for ur info epidermis never scars .dermis and hypodermis scars
Epithelial tissue is not the epidermis.
10 minutes ago, jobslhw said:
This technique regenerates the upper part of the deep fascia (including the dermis)
Epithelial tissue is not the epidermis.
https://www.salk.edu/news-release/the-alchemy-of-healing-researchers-turn-open-wounds-into-skin/
9 hours ago, jobslhw said:
This technique regenerates the upper part of the deep fascia (including the dermis)
Epithelial tissue is not the epidermis.
https://www.salk.edu/news-release/the-alchemy-of-healing-researchers-turn-open-wounds-into-skin/
where skin appendages are present ?? below fascia or in fascia ???or what
coz without appendages it will not look like normal skin also texture shud match with surrounding skin
10 hours ago, Anish004 said:where skin appendages are present ?? below fascia or in fascia ???or what
coz without appendages it will not look like normal skin also texture shud match with surrounding skin
You can find out through the Google that the skin appendage is in the dermis, and the dermis is above the deep fascia. This picture is not the final result at all, and the picture on the 253th day is the final result. There are about 2 to 5 million sweat holes in the human body, and there are 120-130 small sweat glands per square centimeter. How do you visually observe the picture to see if there are skin appendages? Yes, my English is so bad that I can't tell you if there is skin appendage, which is what I want to know. I did not say that this technology is perfect, I also have a lot of doubts to understand. I have posted the entire article above, you can read the article carefully to find the answer.
On 4/6/2019 at 9:55 PM, Anish004 said:totally off topic and advance sorry for that
someone please help me
but i havent ate anything which causes acne from last 6 to 7 months like sugar dairy , greasy foods etc
and my acne was under control but now from 15 days without any change in cosmetic or diet i my comedonal acne is back
nowclogged poresor whiteheads continuously all over my cheek
so i want to know that now can i go to accutane and one more ques does accutane causes scarring ??? i dont have deep acne and have small ones but these tend to leave scarred pores or ice pick scars so i want to get rid of all of them to prevent scarring so
does accutane treat acne and give scars in it place ???or heal normal non deep acne without scar
again sorry for being off topic but here many acne sufferers on this thread so i can get my ans here
Is your skin very oily? If it is, you may have seborrheic dermatitis, and the skin with seborrheic dermatitis has a small pustule that is easy to leave scars. Please go to a regular hospital instead of asking online. The uneven opinions will only make you more confused.
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10 hours ago, jobslhw said:You can find out through the Google that the skin appendage is in the dermis, and the dermis is above the deep fascia. This picture is not the final result at all, and the picture on the 253th day is the final result. There are about 2 to 5 million sweat holes in the human body, and there are 120-130 small sweat glands per square centimeter. How do you visually observe the picture to see if there are skin appendages? Yes, my English is so bad that I can't tell you if there is skin appendage, which is what I want to know. I did not say that this technology is perfect, I also have a lot of doubts to understand. I have posted the entire article above, you can read the article carefully to find the answer.
Is your skin very oily? If it is, you may have seborrheic dermatitis, and the skin with seborrheic dermatitis has a small pustule that is easy to leave scars. Please go to a regular hospital instead of asking online. The uneven opinions will only make you more confused.
I don't see how this would be translatable into scar revision, as that rat appears to wear a chamber device on the ulcer and then this science happens. I don't know about having multiple chambers on a face? lol.
16 hours ago, nikki_gargin said:t
I don't see how this would be translatable into scar revision, as that rat appears to wear a chamber device on the ulcer and then this science happens. I don't know about having multiple chambers on a face? lol.
If the technique really regenerates the skin, the scar can be removed by laser or other means, and the DGTM gel can be applied to re-grow the lost skin. The chamber device is only used to simulate skin defects caused by ulcers, and it is not really necessary to put such a device on your face in the future treatment. The skin's regrowth relies on a DGTM gel. God, please read thepaper or the text of the report I sent. https://www.salk.edu/news-release/the-alchemy-of-healing-researchers-turn-open-wounds-into-skin/
If you don't have time to read the entire paper, you can search for relevant articles.
8 hours ago, jobslhw said:If the technique really regenerates the skin, the scar can be removed by laser or other means, and the DGTM gel can be applied to re-grow the lost skin. The chamber device is only used to simulate skin defects caused by ulcers, and it is not really necessary to put such a device on your face in the future treatment. The skin's regrowth relies on a DGTM gel. God, please read thepaper or the text of the report I sent. https://www.salk.edu/news-release/the-alchemy-of-healing-researchers-turn-open-wounds-into-skin/
If you don't have time to read the entire paper, you can search for relevant articles.
Sounds excellent. It seems siliair in principle to sunogel and other hydrogels.